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Millions of immigrants call the United States home. Many are here legally, some live in the shadows; others have been deported or kept from joining their families in the United States, or else live in fear of being separated from their loved ones, as these immigrant stories illustrate.

Many immigrants have lived here for decades; they have families with U.S. citizens; they own businesses; they go to college; they have jobs and pay taxes. And every day, many of these individuals battle extremely harsh laws that can result in permanent exile and separation from their families.

The Bailey Family

howard-baileyHoward Dean Bailey served in the United States Navy during the first Gulf War. He ran his own business. He was a husband and a proud father. But at age 41, he was deported to Jamaica — a country he had never visited since leaving as a boy of 17 — based on an old marijuana conviction. The strain of separation caused his marriage to fall apart, and his children started doing badly at school. Howard struggles to understand how this could have happened to him. “I made a mistake, but that was 19 years ago and I never made another.” Read More.

The Matamoros Family

Ivon-thumb-300x225Ivon Matamoros came to the United States as a child. As an unauthorized immigrant, she would be eligible to temporarily remain in the country under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. But because she has a felony conviction under Arizona law for using false documents (in order to work), Ivon is ineligible for DACA and legalization. She now faces deportation and permanent separation from her husband and young daughter, a US citizen. Read More

The Carrascos Family

Hugo-150x150

Hugo Carrascos’ parents brought him to the US at age ten, seeking education and opportunity for their son. Hugo didn’t even know about his unauthorized immigrant status until high school, when he tried to get a driver’s license. He married a US citizen and took a job as a server in a restaurant, mentoring at-risk youth in his spare time. But he was arrested during a workplace raid and now faces deportation. Read More

The Gutierrez Family

Oscar-Gutierrez-thumb-940x705

Oscar Gutierrez, who came to the US as a young teenager, is in deportation proceedings based on three DUIs and a conviction for driving without a license, all related to his struggles with alcoholism. Now sober, he’s the primary breadwinner and caretaker for his sick wife and two children, all US citizens. But because deportation is mandatory for his offenses, none of that counts in the eyes of the law, and he faces permanent separation from his wife and children.  Read More

The Forrester Family

Dana-2-300x300

Dana Forrester met her future husband, Astley, while on vacation in Jamaica. When they applied for visa for Astley to come to the U.S., immigration, they discovered that he was permanently barred from entering the United States. The reason? As an adolescent in Jamaica, he had picked up two minor convictions for possession of marijuana. Dana has been left to raise their children in the US, without her husband by her side.  Read More

The Khoy Family

Lundy_Khoy_1Lundy Khoy was born in a Thai refugee camp after her parents fled the genocide in Cambodia. At one year old, she and her family came to the U.S. as refugees and were granted legal permanent residence. While attending college in the US, Lundy was convicted on a low-level drug possession charge. After serving three months in jail, Lundy moved back in with her parents, got a job, and enrolled in community college. But because of that old drug conviction, she faces deportation from the US, the only home she has ever known. Read More

Immigrant Stories - Immigrant Defense Project

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It’s a numbers game. They had their opportunity but messed up, there are 10 more non law breaking migrants who want to take their place. Nothing but the best of the best for America. 

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6 minutes ago, blackbird said:

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Millions of immigrants call the United States home. Many are here legally, some live in the shadows; others have been deported or kept from joining their families in the United States, or else live in fear of being separated from their loved ones, as these immigrant stories illustrate.

Many immigrants have lived here for decades; they have families with U.S. citizens; they own businesses; they go to college; they have jobs and pay taxes. And every day, many of these individuals battle extremely harsh laws that can result in permanent exile and separation from their families.

The Bailey Family

howard-baileyHoward Dean Bailey served in the United States Navy during the first Gulf War. He ran his own business. He was a husband and a proud father. But at age 41, he was deported to Jamaica — a country he had never visited since leaving as a boy of 17 — based on an old marijuana conviction. The strain of separation caused his marriage to fall apart, and his children started doing badly at school. Howard struggles to understand how this could have happened to him. “I made a mistake, but that was 19 years ago and I never made another.” Read More.

The Matamoros Family

Ivon-thumb-300x225Ivon Matamoros came to the United States as a child. As an unauthorized immigrant, she would be eligible to temporarily remain in the country under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. But because she has a felony conviction under Arizona law for using false documents (in order to work), Ivon is ineligible for DACA and legalization. She now faces deportation and permanent separation from her husband and young daughter, a US citizen. Read More

The Carrascos Family

Hugo-150x150

Hugo Carrascos’ parents brought him to the US at age ten, seeking education and opportunity for their son. Hugo didn’t even know about his unauthorized immigrant status until high school, when he tried to get a driver’s license. He married a US citizen and took a job as a server in a restaurant, mentoring at-risk youth in his spare time. But he was arrested during a workplace raid and now faces deportation. Read More

The Gutierrez Family

Oscar-Gutierrez-thumb-940x705

Oscar Gutierrez, who came to the US as a young teenager, is in deportation proceedings based on three DUIs and a conviction for driving without a license, all related to his struggles with alcoholism. Now sober, he’s the primary breadwinner and caretaker for his sick wife and two children, all US citizens. But because deportation is mandatory for his offenses, none of that counts in the eyes of the law, and he faces permanent separation from his wife and children.  Read More

The Forrester Family

Dana-2-300x300

Dana Forrester met her future husband, Astley, while on vacation in Jamaica. When they applied for visa for Astley to come to the U.S., immigration, they discovered that he was permanently barred from entering the United States. The reason? As an adolescent in Jamaica, he had picked up two minor convictions for possession of marijuana. Dana has been left to raise their children in the US, without her husband by her side.  Read More

The Khoy Family

Lundy_Khoy_1Lundy Khoy was born in a Thai refugee camp after her parents fled the genocide in Cambodia. At one year old, she and her family came to the U.S. as refugees and were granted legal permanent residence. While attending college in the US, Lundy was convicted on a low-level drug possession charge. After serving three months in jail, Lundy moved back in with her parents, got a job, and enrolled in community college. But because of that old drug conviction, she faces deportation from the US, the only home she has ever known. Read More

Immigrant Stories - Immigrant Defense Project

Families that leave the US together, stay together. ;) 

Posted
2 hours ago, blackbird said:

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Millions of immigrants call the United States home. Many are here legally, some live in the shadows; others have been deported or kept from joining their families in the United States, or else live in fear of being separated from their loved ones, as these immigrant stories illustrate.

Many immigrants have lived here for decades; they have families with U.S. citizens; they own businesses; they go to college; they have jobs and pay taxes. And every day, many of these individuals battle extremely harsh laws that can result in permanent exile and separation from their families.

The Bailey Family

howard-baileyHoward Dean Bailey served in the United States Navy during the first Gulf War. He ran his own business. He was a husband and a proud father. But at age 41, he was deported to Jamaica — a country he had never visited since leaving as a boy of 17 — based on an old marijuana conviction. The strain of separation caused his marriage to fall apart, and his children started doing badly at school. Howard struggles to understand how this could have happened to him. “I made a mistake, but that was 19 years ago and I never made another.” Read More.

The Matamoros Family

Ivon-thumb-300x225Ivon Matamoros came to the United States as a child. As an unauthorized immigrant, she would be eligible to temporarily remain in the country under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. But because she has a felony conviction under Arizona law for using false documents (in order to work), Ivon is ineligible for DACA and legalization. She now faces deportation and permanent separation from her husband and young daughter, a US citizen. Read More

The Carrascos Family

Hugo-150x150

Hugo Carrascos’ parents brought him to the US at age ten, seeking education and opportunity for their son. Hugo didn’t even know about his unauthorized immigrant status until high school, when he tried to get a driver’s license. He married a US citizen and took a job as a server in a restaurant, mentoring at-risk youth in his spare time. But he was arrested during a workplace raid and now faces deportation. Read More

The Gutierrez Family

Oscar-Gutierrez-thumb-940x705

Oscar Gutierrez, who came to the US as a young teenager, is in deportation proceedings based on three DUIs and a conviction for driving without a license, all related to his struggles with alcoholism. Now sober, he’s the primary breadwinner and caretaker for his sick wife and two children, all US citizens. But because deportation is mandatory for his offenses, none of that counts in the eyes of the law, and he faces permanent separation from his wife and children.  Read More

The Forrester Family

Dana-2-300x300

Dana Forrester met her future husband, Astley, while on vacation in Jamaica. When they applied for visa for Astley to come to the U.S., immigration, they discovered that he was permanently barred from entering the United States. The reason? As an adolescent in Jamaica, he had picked up two minor convictions for possession of marijuana. Dana has been left to raise their children in the US, without her husband by her side.  Read More

The Khoy Family

Lundy_Khoy_1Lundy Khoy was born in a Thai refugee camp after her parents fled the genocide in Cambodia. At one year old, she and her family came to the U.S. as refugees and were granted legal permanent residence. While attending college in the US, Lundy was convicted on a low-level drug possession charge. After serving three months in jail, Lundy moved back in with her parents, got a job, and enrolled in community college. But because of that old drug conviction, she faces deportation from the US, the only home she has ever known. Read More

Immigrant Stories - Immigrant Defense Project

What the Hell is wrong with you? Did you really think Brandon and Pixie-Dust Trudeau could flood North America with people who do not belong and whose culture clashes with ours, without a backlash?

Man...are you older than 10?

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Posted
4 hours ago, blackbird said:

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Millions of immigrants call the United States home. Many are here legally, some live in the shadows; others have been deported or kept from joining their families in the United States, or else live in fear of being separated from their loved ones, as these immigrant stories illustrate.

Many immigrants have lived here for decades; they have families with U.S. citizens; they own businesses; they go to college; they have jobs and pay taxes. And every day, many of these individuals battle extremely harsh laws that can result in permanent exile and separation from their families.

The Bailey Family

howard-baileyHoward Dean Bailey served in the United States Navy during the first Gulf War. He ran his own business. He was a husband and a proud father. But at age 41, he was deported to Jamaica — a country he had never visited since leaving as a boy of 17 — based on an old marijuana conviction. The strain of separation caused his marriage to fall apart, and his children started doing badly at school. Howard struggles to understand how this could have happened to him. “I made a mistake, but that was 19 years ago and I never made another.” Read More.

The Matamoros Family

Ivon-thumb-300x225Ivon Matamoros came to the United States as a child. As an unauthorized immigrant, she would be eligible to temporarily remain in the country under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program. But because she has a felony conviction under Arizona law for using false documents (in order to work), Ivon is ineligible for DACA and legalization. She now faces deportation and permanent separation from her husband and young daughter, a US citizen. Read More

The Carrascos Family

Hugo-150x150

Hugo Carrascos’ parents brought him to the US at age ten, seeking education and opportunity for their son. Hugo didn’t even know about his unauthorized immigrant status until high school, when he tried to get a driver’s license. He married a US citizen and took a job as a server in a restaurant, mentoring at-risk youth in his spare time. But he was arrested during a workplace raid and now faces deportation. Read More

The Gutierrez Family

Oscar-Gutierrez-thumb-940x705

Oscar Gutierrez, who came to the US as a young teenager, is in deportation proceedings based on three DUIs and a conviction for driving without a license, all related to his struggles with alcoholism. Now sober, he’s the primary breadwinner and caretaker for his sick wife and two children, all US citizens. But because deportation is mandatory for his offenses, none of that counts in the eyes of the law, and he faces permanent separation from his wife and children.  Read More

The Forrester Family

Dana-2-300x300

Dana Forrester met her future husband, Astley, while on vacation in Jamaica. When they applied for visa for Astley to come to the U.S., immigration, they discovered that he was permanently barred from entering the United States. The reason? As an adolescent in Jamaica, he had picked up two minor convictions for possession of marijuana. Dana has been left to raise their children in the US, without her husband by her side.  Read More

The Khoy Family

Lundy_Khoy_1Lundy Khoy was born in a Thai refugee camp after her parents fled the genocide in Cambodia. At one year old, she and her family came to the U.S. as refugees and were granted legal permanent residence. While attending college in the US, Lundy was convicted on a low-level drug possession charge. After serving three months in jail, Lundy moved back in with her parents, got a job, and enrolled in community college. But because of that old drug conviction, she faces deportation from the US, the only home she has ever known. Read More

Immigrant Stories - Immigrant Defense Project

 

A plethora of threads pushing the same failed nonsense.

Posted
2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

What the Hell is wrong with you? Did you really think Brandon and Pixie-Dust Trudeau could flood North America with people who do not belong and whose culture clashes with ours, without a backlash?

Man...are you older than 10?

10 is his IQ. It's why all he does all day is copy and paste propaganda. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

What the Hell is wrong with you? Did you really think Brandon and Pixie-Dust Trudeau could flood North America with people who do not belong and whose culture clashes with ours, without a backlash?

Man...are you older than 10?

You're like every XENOPHOBE going back 200 years here. Used to be Irish, then Italians and now Mexicans/South Americans.

You make a MOCKERY of the dedication plaque on the Statue of Liberty and America's TRADITION of welcoming immigrants. You don't belong here, SO STAY OUT, since you don't like 40% of our population. 

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13 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You're like every XENOPHOBE going back 200 years here. Used to be Irish, then Italians and now Mexicans/South Americans.

You make a MOCKERY of the dedication plaque on the Statue of Liberty and America's TRADITION of welcoming immigrants. You don't belong here, SO STAY OUT, since you don't like 40% of our population. 

That plaque was from when America was growing and needed population. America is full now. So fck that plaque, fck the millions of illegals, and as always...

Fck you too.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

That plaque was from when America was growing and needed population. America is full now. So fck that plaque, fck the millions of illegals, and as always...

Fck you too.

We're no more "full" than Canada. We have millions of square miles of uninhabited land. LMAO

Posted
17 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You're like every XENOPHOBE going back 200 years here. Used to be Irish, then Italians and now Mexicans/South Americans.

You make a MOCKERY of the dedication plaque on the Statue of Liberty and America's TRADITION of welcoming immigrants. You don't belong here, SO STAY OUT, since you don't like 40% of our population. 

Straight to name calling, I see. Trying to derail another thread? How about addressing the fact that all of these people broke the law? The law is what it is. They violated it. There is no sob story clause. 

Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it? 

 

 

Posted
7 minutes ago, robosmith said:

We're no more "full" than Canada. We have millions of square miles of uninhabited land. LMAO

AMERICAN LAND! Not a place for illegals to rape kids.

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Shady said:

Sorry, I don't have any sympathy anymore.  Way too many millions of people illegally in the United States.  Enough is enough.

Biden opened the floodgates. The lawlessness his administration pushed onto us as well as all the other sanctuary cities was chaos and now we need bold drastic action that Trump is delivering on to restore order. 

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

You're like every XENOPHOBE going back 200 years here. Used to be Irish, then Italians and now Mexicans/South Americans.

You make a MOCKERY of the dedication plaque on the Statue of Liberty and America's TRADITION of welcoming immigrants. You don't belong here, SO STAY OUT, since you don't like 40% of our population. 

Welcoming "immigrants" who come here lawfully. 

You can't argue the facts. You can't argue with logic or reason. All you have is leftist outrage emotion. 

 

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Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

How about addressing the fact that all of these people broke the law?

Millions of Americans have broken minor laws too.  But nothing happens to them decades later.

Many of these laws they broke was all to do with paperwork.  The U.S. treats them very harshly for even the most minor infractions.  In many cases, they put false information on the paperwork because they were backed into a corner.  The choice might have been to admit they were brought into the U.S. by their parents when they were young persons and haven't been able to obtain legal status since then.  If they say that under the current administration, they know they could be separated from their families and booted out of the country.  The system is very harsh and unreasonable.  You would probably do exactly the same thing as they do.

Another reason these people are deported, even if they have been working in the U.S. for decades is if they had a minor conviction for pot possession long ago.  They may have paid the fine for it 20 years ago, but now with the new administration, if any migrant had any kind of conviction like pot possession when they were a young person decades ago, it doesn't matter.  They will be deported.  The admin is using anything for an excuse to make people leave.  That is unreasonable and inhumane.

 

Edited by blackbird
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So the U.S. gladly accepted Dean Bailey's service in the United States Navy during the Gulf War, but 19 years later deports him to Jamaica at age 41 because of a pot conviction in the distant past.  Sad, but true.  Just proves how unreasonable and harsh the U.S. can be with some people who don't deserve this kind of treatment.

I just thank the Lord I am not in the kind of predicament that many of these people are in.  I also thank the Lord for opening my eyes though his written word, the King James Bible, to some of these things that are going on and how God commands man to treat his fellow man.  There are many verses that teach we are to treat the foreigner and our neighbour with love and respect.  I don't see that happening in these cases. 

Edited by blackbird
Posted (edited)
40 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Millions of Americans have broken minor laws too.  But nothing happens to them decades later.

Yes. We have a statute of limitations. But  to be in the US, they must be a citizen or have legal permission. If they don't, they can not be here. 

 

40 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Many of these laws they broke was all to do with paperwork. 

So, you admit they broke the law.

 

40 minutes ago, blackbird said:

In many cases, they put false information on the paperwork because they were backed into a corner.

Now you admit they lied and try to justify it. But you admit they lied. 

40 minutes ago, blackbird said:

The choice might have been to admit they were brought into the U.S. by their parents when they were young persons and haven't been able to obtain legal status since then.  If they say that under the current administration, they know they could be separated from their families and booted out of the country. 

So they broke the law as kids, still break the law today and lie about breaking the law and that makes them good people? 

Could you quote the law that says it is ok to lie about breaking the law because you didn't want to get caught breaking the law. 

40 minutes ago, blackbird said:

The system is very harsh and unreasonable.

You've said that twice. But the law was written by representatives and senators from both sides of the aisle. The majority of the country voted to enforce those laws. No court has ever ruled that the laws violate the constitutional requirement for punishment to not be cruel and unusual. Your subjective statement that the punishment is harsh is not backed by law or popular opinion. So why should anyone care what you say?

40 minutes ago, blackbird said:

You would probably do exactly the same thing as they do.

Well, we know I wouldn't because I haven't. I have visited around 15 countries and always followed the rules for entry and exit. Why should I have any empathy for someone that intentionally violated our laws and then demanded government services and residency? That's like a home invader demanding dinner, a shower and a bed. 

 

40 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Another reason these people are deported, even if they have been working in the U.S. for decades is if they had a minor conviction for pot possession long ago.  They may have paid the fine for it 20 years ago, but now with the new administration, if any migrant had any kind of conviction like pot possession when they were a young person decades ago, it doesn't matter.  They will be deported.  The admin is using anything for an excuse to make people leave.  That is unreasonable and inhumane.

So they broke the law, became pot heads and now they are somehow immune from the laws? Are you kidding? 

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Posted
38 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Millions of Americans have broken minor laws too.  But nothing happens to them decades later.

ROFL

Your argument has been reduced to, so what if they broke the law!

How about you go start 1500 threads in the Canadian section of the forum demanding your own country let all these people in. 

 

 

Posted
27 minutes ago, blackbird said:

So the U.S. gladly accepted Dean Bailey's service in the United States Navy during the Gulf War, but 19 years later deports him to Jamaica at age 41 because of a pot conviction in the distant past.

So, now serving in the military is immunity from the law? 

Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it? 

 

 

Posted
33 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

So, now serving in the military is immunity from the law? 

Actually...I might be ok with making military service a path to citizenship. 

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted (edited)
41 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:
1 hour ago, blackbird said:

Millions of Americans have broken minor laws too.  But nothing happens to them decades later.

Yes. We have a statute of limitations. But  to be in the US, they must be a citizen or have legal permission. If they don't, they can not be here. 

 

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

Many of these laws they broke was all to do with paperwork. 

So, you admit they broke the law.

I am not a lawyer and don't have the laws here, but I told you they may have committed a minor offence ten or twenty years ago.  I never said they were drug addicts.  You implied that.

They may have a one time been convicted of possession of a small amount of pot when they were a minor but twenty years may have passed during which they lived good lives, even served in the U.S. Navy as in one case I posted.  Yet they are treated like hardened criminals and you don't see a problem with that.

I go by the Bible and if it obvious many of these cases are about some minor offence in the distant past, which they were already punished for and paid the fine.  It is being used as an excuse to go after them.  Not holding legal status is not an excuse to go after them harshly now  if they were allowed to live and work for many years.  To do that suddenly now just to meet some kind of deportation quota is obviously inhumane.  But you don't believe what I quoted in the Bible and think it is fine to just arrest and deport anybody without considering their the total history and how they have been living for many years.

I don't agree with that kind of Nazi mentality that you hold.  It is not biblical.  It is harsh and unreasonable.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Actually...I might be ok with making military service a path to citizenship. 

Nope. It opens us up to spies. 

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Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it? 

 

 

Posted
1 minute ago, gatomontes99 said:
6 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Actually...I might be ok with making military service a path to citizenship. 

Nope. It opens us up to spies. 

If they served in the U.S. Navy in the Gulf War, any normal person would think you actually owe them citizenship.

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