Shooting in a Christian School in the US. Whether or not it will be Highly Publicized is Yet to be Determined (ie, the shooter's political status)

[Shady]

The number of trans shooters seems to be growing alarmingly high, especially considering they make up a tiny fraction of a percentage of society.

[Boges]

11 minutes ago, User said:

No, they have not tackled this problem. Mass killings and even mass shootings still occur in those developed countries. 

Any country with a higher gun fatality rate as the US would be considered "Shithole" by the current POTUS. 

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/2024/oct/comparing-deaths-gun-violence-us-other-countries

[User]

52 minutes ago, Boges said:

I'm assuming you're America. 

We Canadians watch this with bewilderment. But yes, your polarization is astonishing. It's like both sides of the spectrum are speaking completely different languages. 

Does it make you feel better when a bunch of people are run over and killed instead?

Do you sit around watching that with bewilderment?

 

[User]

1 minute ago, Boges said:

Any country with a higher gun fatality rate as the US would be considered "Shithole" by the current POTUS. 

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/2024/oct/comparing-deaths-gun-violence-us-other-countries

Is it only gun deaths you care about?

The reality is that America is an outlier compared to other Western nations, but not "that much" compared to the world. 

Most of our gun deaths are suicides... so I guess as long as folks in your country go to the government to kill them, you are cool with that...

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Ya except, you can scream, howl, or try to reason. Nothing will change the American desire for firearms. 

Except the proliferation of assault STYLE weapons in the US declined dramatically when the were outlawed in 1994, ignoramus.

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Fact Checking Biden’s Claim that Assault Weapons Ban Worked

By Robert Farley

Posted on March 26, 2021

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President Joe Biden claims the 10-year assault weapons ban that he helped shepherd through the Senate as part of the 1994 crime bill “brought down these mass killings.” But the raw numbers, when adjusted for population and other factors, aren’t so clear on that.

There is, however, growing evidence that bans on large-capacity magazines, in particular, might reduce the number of those killed and injured in mass public shootings.

A day after the Boulder, Colorado, mass shooting, in which 10 people were killed by a gunman in a grocery store on March 22, Biden spoke in support of two House-approved bills that would expand background checks to include private sales. Biden also returned to another campaign promise on gun control: to ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.

“We can ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines in this country, once again,” Biden said. “I got that done when I was a senator. It passed. It was a law for the longest time and it brought down these mass killings. We should do it again.”

Biden is referring to his work as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee when he sponsored and largely shepherded the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act into law in 1994. That law, among other things, included an “assault weapons” ban, which prohibited the sale of certain semiautomatic firearms and large-capacity magazines that could accommodate 10 rounds or more. (Existing weapons on the banned list were “grandfathered,” meaning people could keep them.) A sunset provision, however, meant that the ban expired in 10 years, in 2004.

We wrote about this issue eight years ago, when the gun debate was again raging in Congress. At the time, we found that a three-part study funded by the Department of Justice concluded that the ban’s success in reducing crimes committed with banned guns was “mixed.”

We wrote:

FactCheck.org, Feb. 1, 2013: The final report concluded the ban’s success in reducing crimes committed with banned guns was “mixed.” Gun crimes involving assault weapons declined. However, that decline was “offset throughout at least the late 1990s by steady or rising use of other guns equipped with [large-capacity magazines].”

Ultimately, the research concluded that it was “premature to make definitive assessments of the ban’s impact on gun crime,” largely because the law’s grandfathering of millions of pre-ban assault weapons and large-capacity magazines “ensured that the effects of the law would occur only gradually” and were “still unfolding” when the ban expired in 2004.

 

[Boges]

4 minutes ago, User said:

Does it make you feel better when a bunch of people are run over and killed instead?

Do you sit around watching that with bewilderment?

That happened in Toronto several years back. It's not a very common form of mass killing. 

[Legato]

15 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Can you figure out why transsexuals might have grievances and blame the Catholic Church?

Because they are mentally ill.

[Boges]

3 minutes ago, User said:

Most of our gun deaths are suicides... so I guess as long as folks in your country go to the government to kill them, you are cool with that...

That's another problem with the US gun culture. 

It's a lot easier to off yourself when you have a gun in your side table when you're not having a good day than taking a bunch of pills. Having such access to guns makes suicides more common. 

[Deluge]

21 hours ago, herbie said:

How American of you.
More concerned about the shooter;s politics than the fact they walked into a school with guns.

We're concerned about both, you f*cking hypocrite. 

YOU are the a$$holes sticking with one side. 

2 minutes ago, Boges said:

That's another problem with the US gun culture. 

It's a lot easier to off yourself when you have a gun in your side table when you're not having a good day than taking a bunch of pills. Having such access to guns makes suicides more common. 

There is no problem with gun culture. It's the a$$holes wielding the guns that's the problem - like the a$$hole in the OP. 

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Islam.

In America, dumbass.

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No, the claim that Islam in America persecutes homosexuals is inaccurate and overly broad, as there is no single, unified policy toward homosexuality in the American Muslim community. Attitudes and actions vary widely, and persecution is not representative of all Muslims in the U.S. While homophobia and discrimination do exist in some sectors of the Muslim community, there is also a growing movement for LGBTQ+ inclusivity, and many Muslims have become more accepting of homosexuality in recent years. 

Diverse views and actions

The American Muslim community consists of diverse individuals and institutions that hold a wide spectrum of views, from welcoming and inclusive to disapproving and exclusionary. 

• Growing acceptance: Studies show that American Muslims have become significantly more accepting of homosexuality. A 2017 Pew Research Center survey found that 52% of American Muslims believe homosexuality should be accepted by society, nearly double the percentage from a decade earlier. Acceptance is even higher among Muslim millennials.
• Progressive movements: A growing number of Islamic scholars and activists, particularly in the West, are re-examining traditional teachings on same-sex relationships and working to create affirming spaces. Progressive organizations like Muslims for Progressive Values (MPV) and the Muslim Alliance for Sexual and Gender Diversity (MASGD) support LGBTQ+ Muslims and establish inclusive mosques.
• Discrimination and homophobia: Despite the progressive movement, homophobia and transphobia remain in some parts of the American Muslim community. It is still uncommon for openly LGBTQ+ Muslims to feel fully welcome in most mainstream mosques. Some individuals report facing rejection and ostracization from family and religious communities. 

Radical vs. mainstream views

The violent persecution of homosexuals is associated with extremist interpretations of Islam, not the mainstream American Muslim community.

• Extremist ideology: Groups like the Islamic State have brutally persecuted and executed gay men in areas they control. Islamist and Salafi groups often promote rhetoric against homosexuality and support the implementation of laws restricting it.
• Isolation of extremists: These radical views and violent actions do not reflect the beliefs of most Muslims in the U.S. In fact, many American Muslim organizations and activists have expressed solidarity with the LGBTQ+ community, particularly after events like the Pulse nightclub shooting in 2016. 

Discrimination and intersectionality

In the U.S., LGBTQ+ Muslims face the unique challenge of navigating prejudice both within and outside of their communities.

• Intersection of identities: For queer Muslims, the intersection of their identities can be a source of trauma and discrimination. They may face homophobia within some Muslim circles and Islamophobia within some parts of the wider LGBTQ+ community.
• Increased visibility: Despite these challenges, many queer Muslims are becoming more visible and assertive within their communities, challenging exclusionary attitudes and building networks of support.

 

[Legato]

3 minutes ago, Boges said:

That's another problem with the US gun culture. 

It's a lot easier to off yourself when you have a gun in your side table when you're not having a good day than taking a bunch of pills. Having such access to guns makes suicides more common. 

The US does not have a gun culture. On the other hand you have an anti-gun mentality.

[robosmith]

29 minutes ago, Shady said:

The number of trans shooters seems to be growing alarmingly high, especially considering they make up a tiny fraction of a percentage of society.

In response to concerted efforts to ROLL BACK their rights by the current government's anti-DEI policies. 🤮

I've even heard speculation that the SCOTUS may strip their marriage equality rights.

Edited August 28, 2025 by robosmith

[robosmith]

13 minutes ago, Legato said:

Because they are mentally ill.

Ok, doctor, cite where in the DSM-5 it says that transsexuality is considered to be "mentally ill." 

Do you even know what the DSM-5 is? LMAO

[robosmith]

10 minutes ago, Legato said:

The US does not have a gun culture. On the other hand you have an anti-gun mentality.

You clearly do NOT have a handle on the cultures of America. We have more guns per capita than any other nation.

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Yes, the United States has more civilian firearms per capita than any other nation, with about 120.5 guns for every 100 residents, making it the only country with more guns than people. This rate is more than double that of the next highest country, Yemen, which has 52.8 guns per 100 residents. These figures come from the Small Arms Survey, an independent firearms research project. 

The Washington Post

 

[Nationalist]

23 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Except the proliferation of assault STYLE weapons in the US declined dramatically when the were outlawed in 1994, ignoramus.

 

Uh...if they were outlawed, of course the proliferation of them declined.

Gawd are you stoopid.

[User]

27 minutes ago, Boges said:

That happened in Toronto several years back. It's not a very common form of mass killing. 

April 2025. Shows how little you care about tragedies in your own country...

 

[User]

29 minutes ago, Boges said:

That's another problem with the US gun culture. 

It's a lot easier to off yourself when you have a gun in your side table when you're not having a good day than taking a bunch of pills. Having such access to guns makes suicides more common. 

So, no, you don't care about people killing themselves. You just hate guns. 

[Nationalist]

25 minutes ago, robosmith said:

In America, dumbass.

 

You asked...

"which church persecutes transsexuals' the MOST?"

Islam.

 

[Boges]

3 minutes ago, User said:

So, no, you don't care about people killing themselves. You just hate guns. 

Sure I do. I'm saying that easy access to guns makes suicide possible. 

[User]

1 minute ago, Boges said:

Sure I do. I'm saying that easy access to guns makes suicide possible. 

Easy access to rope, garages/cars, prescription medicine... and the Canadian government all help make suicide possible. 

Again, you just hate guns. 

[LinkSoul60]

49 minutes ago, Shady said:

The number of trans shooters seems to be growing alarmingly high, especially considering they make up a tiny fraction of a percentage of society.

Have you fact checked that comment, or just anecdotal given your political leanings?

[User]

7 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Have you fact checked that comment, or just anecdotal given your political leanings?

How many mass shootings were attributed to transgender people before 2018? How many after?

It is an observation of the facts.

Mass shootings at this scale are already incredibly rare events, with transgender people being such a tiny minority, it starts to stand out that something different is going on. 

 

[Shady]

10 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Have you fact checked that comment, or just anecdotal given your political leanings?

There have been at least 3 or 4 trans mass shooters in the past few years.  And considering that they make up a fraction of a percent of the population, is something that needs to be recognized. 

[LinkSoul60]

8 minutes ago, Shady said:

There have been at least 3 or 4 trans mass shooters in the past few years.  And considering that they make up a fraction of a percent of the population, is something that needs to be recognized. 

I don't remember specifics of shootings the last few years but any facts I can find say there isn't a 'trans shooter' problem. That's just political rhetoric....

https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/most-mass-school-shootings-are-not-carried-out-by-transgender-people-2024-09-06/

A lot of other links and all similar...

[Chrissy1979]

24 minutes ago, Shady said:

There have been at least 3 or 4 trans mass shooters in the past few years.  And considering that they make up a fraction of a percent of the population, is something that needs to be recognized. 

So you’re saying that we shouldn’t use them as a scapegoat to distract from billionaires destroying the middle class?