The right wing war on "woke-ness" in America is ENTIRELY about making sure racists and misogynists don't feel uncomfortable.

[robosmith]

 

 

Edited August 23, 2025 by robosmith

[gatomontes99]

I agree. What we need to do, to make things equal and be completely fair, is focus on skin color. We should pick a race to suppress and race(s) to promote. Qualifications should absolutely be secondary. Hell,  they shouldn't even be mandatory. 

Clearly, the only way to eliminate racism and masoginy is to use discriminatory practices in hiring, college admissions and the like. Any thing less than using race as a determining factor is racism. 

[I am Groot]

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

 

 

I suppose you looked at that and thought it showed how hypocritical Republicans are. But it actually shows how hypocritical the woke are. If discomfort leads to growth, why is the Left so frantic to stop anyone being offended by hurty words or 'microaggressions' or 'cultural appropriation'? If discomfort leads to growth, why are there whole armies of the Left now infesting government and corporations, all determined to police whatever words their various preferred identity groups might encounter that offend them? If discomfort leads to growth why is the Left championing the fight against "islamophobia' to stop people arguing with Muslims and mocking their ridiculously violent and hateful religion? 

[Legato]

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

 

Do you feel uncomfortable?

[User]

Another useless trolling thread from a coward who hides from being called out for his lies. 

[Deluge]

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

 

Wrong. The war on wokeness is about making sure marxist asshats like you don't get what you want. 

[Nationalist]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

 

What a pathetic post.

[Fluffypants]

https://nypost.com/2025/08/20/us-news/wild-footage-captures-massive-carnival-cruise-ship-brawl-that-erupted-over-chicken-tenders/

Here is why wokeness is stupid. 

A bunch of ghetto people get into a brawl over chicken tenders on a cruise ship. Jeez the jokes write themselves. 

We see these types of stories constantly, we see the crime, violence and fraud that comes out of that culture and we aren't allowed to say anything, we are supposed to blame everyone but them. 12% of the population commits 50% percent of the violent crime. Liberals have become the mothers who baby their kids and claim they NEVER do anything wrong, while they are committing crimes and getting in trouble.

As I said culture not race be very careful about that because Africans from Africa tend to be model citizens who work hard. 

This is why we have woke fatigue, we are tired of having to change everything constantly in the name of Progressive values, which they make up daily. 

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, I am Groot said:

I suppose you looked at that and thought it showed how hypocritical Republicans are. But it actually shows how hypocritical the woke are. If discomfort leads to growth, why is the Left so frantic to stop anyone being offended by hurty words or 'microaggressions' or 'cultural appropriation'? If discomfort leads to growth, why are there whole armies of the Left now infesting government and corporations, all determined to police whatever words their various preferred identity groups might encounter that offend them? If discomfort leads to growth why is the Left championing the fight against "islamophobia' to stop people arguing with Muslims and mocking their ridiculously violent and hateful religion? 

Probably because you're referring to completely different kinds of discomfort and growth.

The meme is talking about the personal discomfort of people in charge/control (generally Republicans) and the personal growth that they need to UNDERSTAND how their bigotry inhibits productivity.

You're conflating that with the discomfort that they inflict on subordinates that INHIBITS their productivity and suggesting that they need personal "growth" to get over being mistreated instead of their superiors needing to stop mistreating them.

[West]

5 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

I agree. What we need to do, to make things equal and be completely fair, is focus on skin color. We should pick a race to suppress and race(s) to promote. Qualifications should absolutely be secondary. Hell,  they shouldn't even be mandatory. 

Clearly, the only way to eliminate racism and masoginy is to use discriminatory practices in hiring, college admissions and the like. Any thing less than using race as a determining factor is racism. 

I was out for a walk here a few days ago and stumbled across a Sean Feucht concert. The leftists were standing outside the gate, blowing boat horns in the ears of elderly ladies and making total fools of themselves. 

These people are deranged 

[Michael Hardner]

3 hours ago, I am Groot said:

   If discomfort leads to growth, why are there whole armies of the Left now infesting government and corporations, all determined to police whatever words their various preferred identity groups might encounter that offend them? 

There's an interesting point here.

 

The topic of "offensive" material and the woksy response arose pre-social media when there was a presumption of corporate and neoliberal monoculture 

 

The response shook that culture, and we didn't recover.  

 

Now, any political group on the playing board feels like it has the right to object to cultural differences.

And Republicans, once they got into power, moved the pendulum back.

Conservatives like me are also small 'l' liberal and this change in our culture is concerning.

The social left started it, but they were never going to have real power.  They were worn by the centre Left Liberals and Democrats like fake jewelry.

4 minutes ago, West said:

 These people are deranged 

Culture war is deranged.

[robosmith]

34 minutes ago, West said:

I was out for a walk here a few days ago and stumbled across a Sean Feucht concert. The leftists were standing outside the gate, blowing boat horns in the ears of elderly ladies and making total fools of themselves. 

These people are deranged 

How do you KNOW they are "leftists"? Seems you're JUST ASSuming.

[I am Groot]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Probably because you're referring to completely different kinds of discomfort and growth.

The meme is talking about the personal discomfort of people in charge/control (generally Republicans) and the personal growth that they need to UNDERSTAND how their bigotry inhibits productivity.

You're conflating that with the discomfort that they inflict on subordinates that INHIBITS their productivity and suggesting that they need personal "growth" to get over being mistreated instead of their superiors needing to stop mistreating them.

God, this is such a cliche'd view of life! Why would you think everyone who doesn't like being accused of racism, who doesn't like to be officially discriminated against in hiring and promotion, is a bigshot? Bigshots don't give a damn about your woke garbage! They just adapt and thrive in it! Look at how the big corporations have simply adopted it into a brand they can sell while imposing it on underlings.

And who says the big shots are all Republican to begin with? Or that the 'subordinates and underlings' are all minorities?  You're just taking the left wing view that all the big shots are evil right wingers and making them white while shifting the poor and oppressed into identity groups. Believe it or not there are shitloads of poor white men and lots of powerful minorities. And while you might find it somehow satisfying to subject white men to official discrimination supported by and often imposed by the state, I assure you growing numbers of them are very angry. Which is why you have Trump. The Democrats had four years to learn from what happened when Trump was first elected and instead of doing so they doubled down on their wokeness. Thus we have Trump again.

Edited August 23, 2025 by I am Groot

[Michael Hardner]

43 minutes ago, robosmith said:

How do you KNOW they are "leftists"? Seems you're JUST ASSuming.

Ok but... 🤔

 

I mean who else is protesting a Christian MAGA personality?

The culture wars are dumb...

[User]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Culture war is deranged.

No, you are just fine fighting the fight when it is the side you believe in. For you, culture wars are bad when it is the opposing side fighting back. 

 

 

[Michael Hardner]

5 minutes ago, User said:

No, you are just fine fighting the fight when it is the side you believe in. For you, culture wars are bad when it is the opposing side fighting back. 

I think I did say the left started it? 

You're deep in the trenches, so I won't ask for your opinion. A true culture Warrior picks a side.

[User]

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

I think I did say the left started it? 

OK, this has no bearing on my point. 

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

You're deep in the trenches, so I won't ask for your opinion. A true culture Warrior picks a side.

Yes, I passionately fight for causes I believe are quite obviously just and right to fight for. 

The point here is that you claim culture war is deranged, you try to act like you are above it and do not support it, criticising it, but when it is the side you are on, then it is just fine. 

 

[Michael Hardner]

7 minutes ago, User said:

1. OK, this has no bearing on my point. 

2. Yes, I passionately fight for causes I believe are quite obviously just and right to fight for. 

3. The point here is that you claim culture war is deranged, you try to act like you are above it and do not support it, criticising it, but when it is the side you are on, then it is just fine. 

 

1. Well I cast blame on both sides, so tell me which side I "believe in" and why?

2. Ok, so I won't expect objective analysis of the war from you.

3. You are in it, so you force everyone onto one side or the other.

[User]

22 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Well I cast blame on both sides, so tell me which side I "believe in" and why?

2. Ok, so I won't expect objective analysis of the war from you.

3. You are in it, so you force everyone onto one side or the other.

1. The culture war is issue-based; there are many different issues that are deemed to be part of the culture war. It is silly to ask which side you are on without clarity on the specific issue we are discussing. However, one example is your pushing the transgender issues. 

2. Just an excuse on your part as no one is truly bias free. Facts are facts. Logic is logic. Good argument is good argument. All of these are true regardless of whatever bias someone has. 

3. No, you clearly stake out a position on one side of various issues, like the transgender issues. 

I don't force you to do anything. You do that all on your own. 

 

 

[Michael Hardner]

3 minutes ago, User said:

1. The culture war is issue-based; there are many different issues that are deemed to be part of the culture war. It is silly to ask which side you are on without clarity on the specific issue we are discussing. However, one example is your pushing the transgender issues. 

2. Just an excuse on your part as no one is truly bias free. Facts are facts. Logic is logic. Good argument is good argument. All of these are true regardless of whatever bias someone has. 

3. No, you clearly stake out a position on one side of various issues, like the transgender issues. 

I don't force you to do anything. You do that all on your own. 

 

 

1. I disagree that I'm on one side of the culture war because I have an opinion on one issue or another. I don't push transgender issues. I have opinions on them as do others. I have friends who don't believe in trans girls in sports, but I wouldn't say they're part of the culture word just based on one opinion.  Jim Flaherty was not a culture warrior.

2. Maybe. But if I ask a culture warrior about the war itself they will just talk about how the other side is wrong. I see you taking that tack. So it's not a comment on the war itself, it's more warfare.

3. Like I said, it's possible to have an opinion on transgender issues, or anything without being a culture Warrior. Is that you think one side is better.

[User]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. I disagree that I'm on one side of the culture war because I have an opinion on one issue or another. I don't push transgender issues. I have opinions on them as do others. I have friends who don't believe in trans girls in sports, but I wouldn't say they're part of the culture word just based on one opinion.  Jim Flaherty was not a culture warrior.

LOL, when your opinion is on one side of the issue.... you are on one side of the war. Yes, you do push the transgender issue. I have been in at least half a dozen different threads across multiple sections of this forum with you on this issue alone. 

As I said, you want to play like you are above the culture war and criticize it, when in reality, you are deeply entrenched in it on the things you support. 

4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

2. Maybe. But if I ask a culture warrior about the war itself they will just talk about how the other side is wrong. I see you taking that tack. So it's not a comment on the war itself, it's more warfare.

No maybe, just an excuse. The same way you push your opinions and arguments on transgender issues but then balk when challenged. To my point, you want to push your side of things, but don't like it when others push back. 

5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

3. Like I said, it's possible to have an opinion on transgender issues, or anything without being a culture Warrior. Is that you think one side is better.

A distinction without a difference. You show up wearing the war paint for your team, cheering for your team, supporting them, talking about them routinely... but then when called out now you want to act like you don't. 

You think one side is better too. Or do you just pretend and post things on here that you don't actually believe just to post stuff?

 

[herbie]

When you forget all actually relevant issues and carry on with this social conservative bullshit as the most important issue in politics, it is easy to see how things are turning to shit.
The entire 'woke' thing is less than meaningless, the overuse of it to describe anything and everything you dislike as woke has rendered the word meaningless.

As an example, some of you are buying the song that museums, universities and libraries are too woke. How f*cking childish can you get?

[User]

24 minutes ago, herbie said:

How f*cking childish can you get?

Pretty childish when they are pushing "safe spaces" free from white people. 

Folks like you are just fine with this petty BS, it is only childish to folks like you when people oppose it.

[Michael Hardner]

46 minutes ago, User said:

1. LOL, when your opinion is on one side of the issue.... you are on one side of the war.

2. Yes, you do push the transgender issue. I have been in at least half a dozen different threads across multiple sections of this forum with you on this issue alone. 

3. As I said, you want to play like you are above the culture war and criticize it, when in reality, you are deeply entrenched in it on the things you support. 

4. No maybe, just an excuse. The same way you push your opinions and arguments on transgender issues but then balk when challenged. To my point, you want to push your side of things, but don't like it when others push back. 

5. A distinction without a difference. You show up wearing the war paint for your team, cheering for your team, supporting them, talking about them routinely... but then when called out now you want to act like you don't. 

 

1. - 5. LOL right back.  I already stated that having an opinion on a culture issue is not being on one side of the culture war, and I gave an example... Or two... 

You are blind to your own inability to see past the war objectively. 

The evidence is the fact that you think everyone is in the culture war, as long as they have an opinion on something. 

I can't explain it to you any clearer than this: you are a culture Warrior, because you think everyone who has an opinion is a culture Warrior. 

Just because someone states opinions that are different than yours doesn't mean they are "pushing" them.  That kind of inflammatory language is also a clear marker of a culture Warrior, I.e you. 

Have a good war.

 

Edited August 23, 2025 by Michael Hardner

[User]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. - 5. LOL right back.  I already stated that having an opinion on a culture issue is not being on one side of the culture war, and I gave an example... Or two... 

Right back what? Yes, you claim that having an opinion doesn't put you on one side... and I said:

"when your opinion is on one side of the issue.... you are on one side of the war. Yes, you do push the transgender issue. I have been in at least half a dozen different threads across multiple sections of this forum with you on this issue alone. 

As I said, you want to play like you are above the culture war and criticize it, when in reality, you are deeply entrenched in it on the things you support."

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

you are blind to your own inability to see past the war objectively. 

How so? What is your argument here? This is just a baseless assertion. 

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

The evidence is the fact that you think everyone is in the culture war, as long as they have an opinion on something. 

This is a strawman. I have made no such comment about everyone, just you here. 

You have to distract like this, because you can't win on the facts. The facts are that you push the transgender issues, you are all in on the culture war when it suits you. 

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

I can't explain it to you any clearer than this: you are a culture Warrior, because you think everyone who has an opinion is a culture Warrior. 

I am not the one trying to pretend I am above the culture war here, you are. I also never made any such argument about everyone, but I did you, and you don't merely have an opinion. You push the issue. You have pushed the issue repeatedly here in numerous threads, numerous sections of the forum. You advocate, you push, you fight the war... when it suits you. 

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Just because someone states opinions that are different than yours doesn't mean they are "pushing" them.  That kind of inflammatory language is also a clear marker of a culture Warrior, I.e you. 

You don't just have an opinion, you do in fact push your views here, advocate for them, and playing sematics on "push" or just calling it having an opinion, doesn't change the facts of what you do here. You play the culture war, when it suits you. Then you sit here pretending to be above it and criticizing it. 

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Have a good war.

See you in the next thread where you push your side of the war.