Global Warming: Man-Made or Natural?

[Deluge]

8 minutes ago, eyeball said:

1. Definitely salty, yup.

2. Says Master on my ticket. Even says Master on the tickets of  women I work with.

Apparently woke still hasn't caught up with our industry. It would probably drive Tim and Rachel bonkers. Unless I'm mistaken Rachel's an Admiral too isn't it?

1. Salty and woke with pronouns. 

2. The point is you and Tampon Tim and Richard Levine align politically - you're all left-wing lunatics.  

[eyeball]

8 minutes ago, Deluge said:

The point is you and Tampon Tim and Richard Levine align politically - you're all left-wing lunatics

Your point is a little lost given you say that about half the human race or more.

How do you manage to even crawl out of your tent in the morning?

[Deluge]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Your point is a little lost given you say that about half the human race or more.

How do you manage to even crawl out of your tent in the morning?

No, the point is won because it's the truth. 

Explain how you are NOT woke. 

[Legato]

42 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Just calling a spade a spade buddy. If you've got something more reasonable in the way of doubt let's see it 

Don't you mean shovel?

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Just calling a spade a spade buddy. If you've got something more reasonable in the way of doubt let's see it 

Ya...you nailed it...

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, Deluge said:

Explain how you are NOT woke. 

It's the state of being asleep. 🙄

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, Legato said:

Don't you mean shovel?

Yup. What do you think I meant, a playing card?

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Ya...you nailed it...

I know, you've got squat.

[Nationalist]

7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I know, you've got squat.

No. You may squat. But I stand to p1ss like a man.

[eyeball]

7 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

No.

What would it take to make someone like you say enough is enough and its time to take action?

[Legato]

55 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yup. What do you think I meant, a playing card?

Yes that same shovel you start to dig a hole, get tired and don't finish, then walk around bragging about half a whole half a hole.

[eyeball]

35 minutes ago, Legato said:

Yes that same shovel you start to dig a hole, get tired and don't finish, then walk around bragging about half a whole half a hole.

Who said I was finished? That's pretty funny coming from someone who is still hasn't even started.

What's your reasonable denial based on?

[Goddess]

On 8/25/2025 at 1:31 PM, Michael Hardner said:

I will add that if you purport to care about poverty

The insane amounts of money being spent on climate crap is driving people into poverty.

Poor people don't care about the climate.  They will burn dung, they will burn coal, they will pollute the environment if it means they can survive.  Ever seen a homeless camp?  They are filthy fire hazards.

Pull people out of poverty, THEN you can have your pet projects.  How you pull people out of poverty is by providing cheap energy.

Get India on LNG and nuclear, lift them out of poverty, THEN they will care about your climate crap.

 

[Goddess]

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

MAJOR COASTAL FLOODING for ONE, IGNORAMUS.

Rising sea levels can only come from melting ice that is resting on land.  The water in the atmosphere cycles through rain and evaporation.

There are really only 2 major masses of permanent ice on Earth - the Greenland icesheet and the Antarctic icesheet.

And the Antarctic icesheet has been gaining ice in recent years.

If all the glaciers on Earth melt suddenly, all at one, sea level would rise by less than 2 feet.

I'm with Freeman Dyson on this one and he was a pretty damn smart man:

 

 

 

[Goddess]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

many more very strong hurricanes

Sorry, but I happened to be just discussing this with a friend in Florida a couple weeks ago and we found this:

 

• Ten of the top 15 strongest hurricanes to make landfall in Florida struck either in or before 1995. Eight of those were prior to 1965.

• Florida has been struck by 111 hurricanes and 40 major (Cat-3+) hurricanes since 1851, and frequency in both have declined slightly.

• Florida went a record-long 10 years, 11 months and 13 days without a single hurricane strike between Wilma (October 24, 2005) and Hermine (Sept. 2, 2016).

 

The odd thing is there will be a lot of people very angry about hearing this good news.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

The odd thing is there will be a lot of people very angry about hearing this good news.

I doubt it given your source - Chris Martz even bills himself The Anti-Greta Thunberg...a twenty two grad fresh out of school and eager to carve out a place for himself.

I've been told there's a lot of that  around the climate biz. It is the biggest show in town so go figure.

Fact check Chris Martz

 

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Goddess said:

The insane amounts of money being spent on climate crap is driving people into poverty.

Poor people don't care about the climate.  They will burn dung, they will burn coal, they will pollute the environment if it means they can survive.  Ever seen a homeless camp?  They are filthy fire hazards.

Pull people out of poverty, THEN you can have your pet projects.  How you pull people out of poverty is by providing cheap energy.

Get India on LNG and nuclear, lift them out of poverty, THEN they will care about your climate crap.

 

Everyone will care about "climate crap" when their crops no longer grow because of drought or flooded fields.

Have you noticed how many extreme weather events we've had every week over the last couple of years?

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Goddess said:

Rising sea levels can only come from melting ice that is resting on land.  The water in the atmosphere cycles through rain and evaporation.

There are really only 2 major masses of permanent ice on Earth - the Greenland icesheet and the Antarctic icesheet.

And the Antarctic icesheet has been gaining ice in recent years.

If all the glaciers on Earth melt suddenly, all at one, sea level would rise by less than 2 feet.

I'm with Freeman Dyson on this one and he was a pretty damn smart man:

 

 

 

Do you understand that all of the Antarctic ice cap is GLACIERS? Except perhaps the ice shelfs which are icebergs waiting to be freed.

Do you know that in the history of Earth, having frozen polar ice caps was NOT THE USUAL CASE and the sea level was 200+ feet higher?

IOW, you are way off.

How would sea level change if all glaciers melted?

USGS (.gov)

https://www.usgs.gov › faqs › how-would-sea-level-chan...

 

If all of them were to melt, global sea level would rise approximately 70 meters (approximately 230 feet), flooding every coastal city on the planet.

Edited August 29, 2025 by robosmith

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Goddess said:

Sorry, but I happened to be just discussing this with a friend in Florida a couple weeks ago and we found this:

 

• Ten of the top 15 strongest hurricanes to make landfall in Florida struck either in or before 1995. Eight of those were prior to 1965.

• Florida has been struck by 111 hurricanes and 40 major (Cat-3+) hurricanes since 1851, and frequency in both have declined slightly.

• Florida went a record-long 10 years, 11 months and 13 days without a single hurricane strike between Wilma (October 24, 2005) and Hermine (Sept. 2, 2016).

 

The odd thing is there will be a lot of people very angry about hearing this good news.

Hurricanes are still hurricanes when they don't make landfall in Florida. They are WORLDWIDE.

Got news for you: when the ocean temperatures around FL are near 100 degress, hurricanes get MUCH STRONGER REAL FAST as they approach land.

[Nationalist]

10 hours ago, eyeball said:

What would it take to make someone like you say enough is enough and its time to take action?

You haven't been paying attention. I've already said it's time to take action. I just oppose the action already taken. If this panic driven chickenshit "action" already in place, is the product of the supposed "superior intelligence" of the Libbie mind...you folks might wanna rethink your opinion of yourselves. 

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

Do you understand that all of the Antarctic ice cap is GLACIERS? Except perhaps the ice shelfs which are icebergs waiting to be freed.

Do you know that in the history of Earth, having frozen polar ice caps was NOT THE USUAL CASE and the sea level was 200+ feet higher?

IOW, you are way off.

How would sea level change if all glaciers melted?

USGS (.gov)

https://www.usgs.gov › faqs › how-would-sea-level-chan...

 

If all of them were to melt, global sea level would rise approximately 70 meters (approximately 230 feet), flooding every coastal city on the planet.

Errr...what does water do when it freezes? That's right...it expands. Thus if it all melts...

You really haven't thought this through...have you Tweenkie-Poo.

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I just oppose the action already taken.

What action? Lip service doesn't count.

[LinkSoul60]

11 hours ago, Goddess said:

The insane amounts of money being spent on climate crap is driving people into poverty.

Poor people don't care about the climate.  They will burn dung, they will burn coal, they will pollute the environment if it means they can survive.  Ever seen a homeless camp?  They are filthy fire hazards.

Pull people out of poverty, THEN you can have your pet projects.  How you pull people out of poverty is by providing cheap energy.

Get India on LNG and nuclear, lift them out of poverty, THEN they will care about your climate crap.

 

Exactly how do the investments spent on mitigating climate change drive people into poverty?

You may want to consider the fact that climate change is a reason for the higher costs of food and goods because of damage to crops and supply chains disruptions.  

[LinkSoul60]

10 hours ago, Goddess said:

Sorry, but I happened to be just discussing this with a friend in Florida a couple weeks ago and we found this:

 

• Ten of the top 15 strongest hurricanes to make landfall in Florida struck either in or before 1995. Eight of those were prior to 1965.

• Florida has been struck by 111 hurricanes and 40 major (Cat-3+) hurricanes since 1851, and frequency in both have declined slightly.

• Florida went a record-long 10 years, 11 months and 13 days without a single hurricane strike between Wilma (October 24, 2005) and Hermine (Sept. 2, 2016).

 

The odd thing is there will be a lot of people very angry about hearing this good news.

 

10 hours ago, Goddess said:

Sorry, but I happened to be just discussing this with a friend in Florida a couple weeks ago and we found this:

 

• Ten of the top 15 strongest hurricanes to make landfall in Florida struck either in or before 1995. Eight of those were prior to 1965.

• Florida has been struck by 111 hurricanes and 40 major (Cat-3+) hurricanes since 1851, and frequency in both have declined slightly.

• Florida went a record-long 10 years, 11 months and 13 days without a single hurricane strike between Wilma (October 24, 2005) and Hermine (Sept. 2, 2016).

 

The odd thing is there will be a lot of people very angry about hearing this good news.

Kind of an odd graph to try and make a case against climate change....   Have you looked at the frequency of extreme weather events now versus recorded history? 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/17/nasa-data-reveals-dramatic-rise-in-intensity-of-weather-events

New data from Nasa has revealed a dramatic rise in the intensity of weather events such as droughts and floods over the past five years.

The study shows that such extreme events are becoming more frequent, longer-lasting and more severe, with last year’s figures reaching twice that of the 2003-2020 average.

[Legato]

11 hours ago, eyeball said:

Who said I was finished? That's pretty funny coming from someone who is still hasn't even started.

What's your reasonable denial based on?

You did.