Obama goes to jail!?

[Nationalist]

18 minutes ago, herbie said:

The Pedofuhrer scrambles to distract.

So senile he doesn't even realize his own Court manipulations that made him immune from prosecution make Obama immune too.

Yet he merely clamps his arse tighter and drags his followers along by their tongues.

Trump's had his attack and came out the other end...President of the United States.

Let's see how Barry fairs now.

[herbie]

Yes, tha only proves you're accompanied by plenty of other utter fools.

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Not if those activities continued past his term. If it can be shown in any way shape or form that he continued to participate in an effort to prop up the Russian hoax, then he can wind up being nailed for the whole thing.

Actually, it is not an official duty to make up intelligence to undermine an incoming administration. It can be prosecuted.

[CdnFox]

32 minutes ago, herbie said:

The Pedofuhrer scrambles to distract.

So senile he doesn't even realize his own Court manipulations that made him immune from prosecution make Obama immune too.

Yet he merely clamps his arse tighter and drags his followers along by their tongues.

Go read it again

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Actually, it is not an official duty to make up intelligence to undermine an incoming administration. It can be prosecuted.

I doubt it can be prosecuted on that basis. Management of the intelligence community is absolutely presidential

But there are two things these twits don't think about. One would be that if the conspiracy continued after the president's Term in office and he can be tied to the original conspiracy it may be considered that he is part of an ongoing crime that took place even after his left office and therefore is eligible to be tried on it. And it appears there's some evidence that that's the case

Additionally, the court ruled that people can't be tried, because they should be impeached instead. The court did not rule there were no consequences, and so if it is found that Obama in fact is protected by presidential privilege then he can still be impeached by trump and the republicans and face severe charges and penalties.

And third off defending against all of us is going to cost Obama an absolute fortune and smear is a democrats. I'm quite certain trouble think it was worth it just for that. Punishment by process, just like they did with him

So no matter how you slice it Obama could be in trouble here. And dragging the truth to court to prove that it was all a hoax isn't going to make the democrats look good

[gatomontes99]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I doubt it can be prosecuted on that basis. Management of the intelligence community is absolutely presidential

It is. But so is ordering the military to kill someone. Yet, he can not order the military to kill just anyone. That is why the SCOTUS stated there is absolute immunity for core responsibilities but limited immunity on the edge. 

Trump can demand the GA AG investigate missing ballots and ballot irregularities, even if he is wrong. He could not tell the AG to print ballots to change the election.

Obama cannot just make up intelligence to leak to the press to undermine the income administration. Now, he could have released true and valid data. That would have been in the scope. The line is crossed when the information is wholly fiction. 

12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But there are two things these twits don't think about. One would be that if the conspiracy continued after the president's Term in office and he can be tied to the original conspiracy it may be considered that he is part of an ongoing crime that took place even after his left office and therefore is eligible to be tried on it. And it appears there's some evidence that that's the case

That's possible but not necessary.

13 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Additionally, the court ruled that people can't be tried, because they should be impeached instead. The court did not rule there were no consequences, and so if it is found that Obama in fact is protected by presidential privilege then he can still be impeached by trump and the republicans and face severe charges and penalties.

Well, yes and no. After the President is out of office, impeachment isn't possible. So, either we have to discover violations of the law and his duties while in office or trials are possible after the term is over. 

Impeachment IS necessary during the term. That is indisputable. After the term, normal judicial process is acceptable. There will be issues with immunity that will be brought forth as a defense. But those immunities are not absolute if the intent of the duties listed in the Constitution are violated.

17 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And third off defending against all of us is going to cost Obama an absolute fortune and smear is a democrats. I'm quite certain trouble think it was worth it just for that. Punishment by process, just like they did with him

So no matter how you slice it Obama could be in trouble here. And dragging the truth to court to prove that it was all a hoax isn't going to make the democrats look good

And there is the inevitable liberal retort that they are only doing it because Oabama is black. We'd have to hear that day after day. Never mind that Obama isn't black. But that's a different topic.

[Moonlight Graham]

18 hours ago, Deluge said:

I'd love to see it, but they don't have the balls. 

Donald Trump's balls are bigger than the Empire State Building.

He needs to be neutered.  He's a dog who keeps peeing and crapping all over everyone's lawns while humping every female he can get his hands on. #Epstein

[paxamericana]

17 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Donald Trump's balls are bigger than the Empire State Building.

You may not like it but this is what peak male performance looks like.

[herbie]

I can't get over these cultists.
The law is the law, except for Donald Trump.
Donald Trump has immunity but no one else.

One can see how Hitler crept into power. Lackeys adored him, Joe Average ignored him and we all paid the price in the end.

Rinse and repeat.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Legato said:

You need more rope?

None needed, ^DOPE

Edited July 24, 2025 by robosmith

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Trump's had his attack and came out the other end...President of the United States.

Let's see how Barry fairs now.

Too bad giving a campaign speech on the Ellipse is NOT official duties.

In FACT the Hatch Act PROHIBITS use of Federal resources for campaigning, so add that to the charges against Trump.

A Guide to the Hatch Act for Federal Employees

OSC.gov

https://osc.gov › Documents › Handouts › A Gui...

PDF

 

May not engage in political activity — i.e., activity directed at the success or failure of a political party, candidate for partisan political office, or ...

[robosmith]

47 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

You may not like it but this is what peak male performance looks like.

ONLY to people like you who have NO RESPECT FOR THE LAW.

Trump has a LONG HISTORY of THAT, but usually manages to bribe his way out, until he met Alvin Bragg.

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Donald Trump's balls are bigger than the Empire State Building.

He needs to be neutered.  He's a dog who keeps peeing and crapping all over everyone's lawns while humping every female he can get his hands on. #Epstein

Trump Derangement Syndrome is a serious mental illness. I would advise you to go see a therapist, but the therapist will probably have TDS as well. 

[paxamericana]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Alvin Bragg

The kangaroo court prosecutor that got Trump on stripper hush money but refuses to prosecute violent criminals that robbed people and instead went after the victim??? You really want to get crucified on this hill? I’m going to let you think this through.

[robosmith]

5 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

The kangaroo court prosecutor that got Trump on stripper hush money but refuses to prosecute violent criminals that robbed people and instead went after the victim??? You really want to get crucified on this hill? I’m going to let you think this through.

Prove that. Bragg retired to teaching so he's not prosecuting anyone now.

WHO did he "refuse to prosecute" while in office?

[paxamericana]

12 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Prove that.

https://nypost.com/2024/03/30/us-news/bodega-clerk-jose-albas-self-defense-was-overkill-nyc-lawyers/
 

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/manhattan-da-alvin-bragg-low-level-offenses/

 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Too bad giving a campaign speech on the Ellipse is NOT official duties.

In FACT the Hatch Act PROHIBITS use of Federal resources for campaigning, so add that to the charges against Trump.

A Guide to the Hatch Act for Federal Employees

OSC.gov

https://osc.gov › Documents › Handouts › A Gui...

PDF

 

May not engage in political activity — i.e., activity directed at the success or failure of a political party, candidate for partisan political office, or ...

The Hatch act. Another broken law by Barry and his pack o' traitors.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

It is. But so is ordering the military to kill someone. Yet, he can not order the military to kill just anyone. That is why the SCOTUS stated there is absolute immunity for core responsibilities but limited immunity on the edge. 

Trump can demand the GA AG investigate missing ballots and ballot irregularities, even if he is wrong. He could not tell the AG to print ballots to change the election.

Obama cannot just make up intelligence to leak to the press to undermine the income administration. Now, he could have released true and valid data. That would have been in the scope. The line is crossed when the information is wholly fiction. 

That's possible but not necessary.

Well, yes and no. After the President is out of office, impeachment isn't possible. So, either we have to discover violations of the law and his duties while in office or trials are possible after the term is over. 

Impeachment IS necessary during the term. That is indisputable. After the term, normal judicial process is acceptable. There will be issues with immunity that will be brought forth as a defense. But those immunities are not absolute if the intent of the duties listed in the Constitution are violated.

And there is the inevitable liberal retort that they are only doing it because Oabama is black. We'd have to hear that day after day. Never mind that Obama isn't black. But that's a different topic.

With regards to impeachment it seems that the majority of experts think you can impeach after someone has left office. Apparently it's a little gray but it seems quite plausible

Yes
Yes, a president can be impeached after leaving office. While the Constitution's text is open to debate, most scholars agree that impeachment remains a possibility even after a president has completed their term. However, some legal analysts argue that impeachment cannot constitutionally continue after the end of a president's term. Thus, the issue is subject to interpretation and debate. 
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And I've heard this before. The majority seem to feel that it is possible. And considering who's sitting in the supreme court's chairs right now it would not shock me to see the most common interpretation be the one that they go for  

 

[paxamericana]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

you can impeach after someone has left office

I've only seen this use to prevent an incumbent from returning to politics. It's usually not done if the guys stay out for good. There'd be little value unless it would help get the next guy get elected. 

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

The Hatch act. Another broken law by Barry and his pack o' traitors.

Too bad you always have NO EVIDENCE.

2 hours ago, paxamericana said:

https://nypost.com/2024/03/30/us-news/bodega-clerk-jose-albas-self-defense-was-overkill-nyc-lawyers/
 

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/manhattan-da-alvin-bragg-low-level-offenses/

 

Your NAKED links PROVE NOTHING. QUOTE the parts that prove your case.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

I've only seen this use to prevent an incumbent from returning to politics. It's usually not done if the guys stay out for good. There'd be little value unless it would help get the next guy get elected. 

Impeachment is beyond rare to begin with historically. However it's become much much more prevalent in modern days. The democrats have crossed some lines and there's no going back. I expect it to become a much more common occurrence. Some people will argue that that's a good thing and there is a potential argument to be made there.

[Moonlight Graham]

7 hours ago, herbie said:

I can't get over these cultists.
The law is the law, except for Donald Trump.
Donald Trump has immunity but no one else.

One can see how Hitler crept into power. Lackeys adored him, Joe Average ignored him and we all paid the price in the end.

Rinse and repeat.

Donald Trump is the messiah for mor.ons

[Moonlight Graham]

6 hours ago, Deluge said:

Trump Derangement Syndrome is a serious mental illness. I would advise you to go see a therapist, but the therapist will probably have TDS as well. 

At least I don't suffer from mental retardation.

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, Deluge said:

Trump Derangement Syndrome is a serious mental illness. I would advise you to go see a therapist, but the therapist will probably have TDS as well. 

You are so deranged you don't even know you sound like a ridiculous CHILD.

Time to get a new schtick, DELUGINAL

[gatomontes99]

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

With regards to impeachment it seems that the majority of experts think you can impeach after someone has left office. Apparently it's a little gray but it seems quite plausible

Yes
Yes, a president can be impeached after leaving office. While the Constitution's text is open to debate, most scholars agree that impeachment remains a possibility even after a president has completed their term. However, some legal analysts argue that impeachment cannot constitutionally continue after the end of a president's term. Thus, the issue is subject to interpretation and debate. 
Yahoo
Can a president be impeached after they have left office - Search

And I've heard this before. The majority seem to feel that it is possible. And considering who's sitting in the supreme court's chairs right now it would not shock me to see the most common interpretation be the one that they go for  

 

The Constitution says:

Article 2, Section 4

"The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

The only action that can be taken is removal from office. The only other punishment is in Article 1 where the impeached is declared incapable of holding office. 

Obama is already out of office and incapable of holding office. Impeachment has no effect. But it isn't necessary either. The SCOTUS ruling very clearly stated that activities that exceed the scope of the Constitution are prosecutable. 

My examples above stand.