Trump says he will impose 50% tariff on copper (canada exports billions worth of copper to us)

[CdnFox]

Trump to impose 50 percent tariff on copper

U.S. President Donald Trump said he will announce a 50 per cent tax on imported copper on Tuesday — adding to the growing list of punishing tariffs that are causing economic dislocation in Canada and around the world.

Trump said the tariffs are coming during a cabinet meeting at the White House.

"Today, we're doing copper," he said, after listing a number of other tariffs the U.S. has instituted. "I believe the tariff on copper, we're going to make it 50 per cent."

A spokesperson for Prime Minister Mark Carney said the government won't be commenting until Trump signs an executive order and more details are available.

 

Meanwhile Carney's on vacation. Well I guess he needed it, he has been working for two whole months straight. 🙄

Sounds like our negotiations are going great

[I am Groot]

Like the tariff on lumber, all this does is increase the input cost for American manufacturers. They have no choice but to import copper and lumber. Same for aluminum. They don't produce nearly enough. Nor are there any silent copper mines or smelting resources they can just kickstart into action. Such things take many years and no one is going to do it because they'll assume sanity will return after the ignorant orange is gone.

[herbie]

Showing once again just how stupid the Mango M0ron is.
About THE most important metal in the modern world, the Blob doesn't realize the USA is part of it. Increases costs for every single product manufactured in the USA.

Crazy glue the id1pt's mouth shut and cut off his tiny tiny hands or the USA before he collapses his own economy with his tariff stupidity.

[CdnFox]

26 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Like the tariff on lumber, all this does is increase the input cost for American manufacturers. They have no choice but to import copper and lumber. Same for aluminum. They don't produce nearly enough. Nor are there any silent copper mines or smelting resources they can just kickstart into action. Such things take many years and no one is going to do it because they'll assume sanity will return after the ignorant orange is gone.

I have to say this game is a bit of a surprise. It seemed like there were a larger issues. He's doing it globally so I'm not sure it's much of a negotiating tactic.

But once again this is going to kick ontario And Quebec In the teeth as well as hurting Manitoba and BC. Ontario and Quebec really seem to get the worst of this, the tariffs really seem to hit them hardest.

Maybe Danielle Smith was actually smarter than everyone gave her credit for. So far her province has barely been touched

[LinkSoul60]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

I have to say this game is a bit of a surprise. It seemed like there were a larger issues. He's doing it globally so I'm not sure it's much of a negotiating tactic.

Think twice, talk once....   What the hell is Carney supposed to publicly say about another Trump idea that creates inflation for the US customer.

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Maybe Danielle Smith was actually smarter than everyone gave her credit for. So far her province has barely been touched

If every provinces main industry was oil & gas we'd all have a lesser impact wouldn't we.  Why does Smith need credit for that?

 

Try thinking man!

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Think twice, talk once....   What the hell is Carney supposed to publicly say about another Trump idea that creates inflation for the US customer.

We'd be happy if you'd think once. And there are all kinds of things corny could say. Such as here's how Canada is going to respond, or we are hoping to address this in the upcoming trade negotiations or something. If you just shut up then it impacts financial markets it makes you look weak like you're just giving into the guy.

No he has to come out subsequently and said that he will wait to see the full text and signed a document before commenting further to buy himself some more time which is still weak but at least it's an answer sort of.

Your first loyalty should be to Canada, and a prime minister no matter which party he's from as a duty to respond and speak to Canadians about what's happening and what they intend to do about it regardless of what the circumstance is. And you shouldn't be defending somebody who is screwing that up Just because of your political bias

[WestCanMan]

We really do need to find alternative markets for our copper, aluminium (lol), steel and oil. 

[LinkSoul60]

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

We'd be happy if you'd think once. And there are all kinds of things corny could say. Such as here's how Canada is going to respond, or we are hoping to address this in the upcoming trade negotiations or something. If you just shut up then it impacts financial markets it makes you look weak like you're just giving into the guy.

No he has to come out subsequently and said that he will wait to see the full text and signed a document before commenting further to buy himself some more time which is still weak but at least it's an answer sort of.

Your first loyalty should be to Canada, and a prime minister no matter which party he's from as a duty to respond and speak to Canadians about what's happening and what they intend to do about it regardless of what the circumstance is. And you shouldn't be defending somebody who is screwing that up Just because of your political bias

You didn't even read what you posted?  'A spokesperson for Prime Minister Mark Carney said the government won't be commenting until Trump signs an executive order and more details are available.'

The markets were already reacting today to his tariff talk, and then the copper announcement.  Anything Carney would have or could have said wasn't changing anything.

Take a lesson from Carney....  Sometimes best to just keep your mouth shut.

 

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

You didn't even read what you posted?  'A spokesperson for Prime Minister Mark Carney said the government won't be commenting until Trump signs an executive order and more details are available.'

 

I did read what was posted and in fact I commented on that specifically. So it would seem that you are the one that can't read.

 

5 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

The markets were already reacting today to his tariff talk, and then the copper announcement.  Anything Carney would have or could have said wasn't changing anything.

Of course it changes things. The fact that the markets were reacting is what you want to address. You want to give the market some reason to believe that you're going to in some way or another taco problem.

They've been in closed door conversations for well over a month, it's not come up? Is there a chance of negotiating this? Are they really in negotiations or are they just playing Tetris?

But yes, it is the prime minister's job when something like this happens to comment on it. Saying he'll wait to see the text without making any comment is cheesy at best.

You never miss an opportunity to look like a ignorant twat do you? I mean we all Get that at this point, there's no doubt, you don't have to keep hammering the message home  

[CdnFox]

32 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

 

If every provinces main industry was oil & gas we'd all have a lesser impact wouldn't we.  Why does Smith need credit for that?

 

Try thinking man!

Oops, I forgot to address this little piece of stupidity

No, that is not the case. For example none of these provinces had copper as their primary industries. So a copper tariff would affect the provinces it affects currently exactly the same even if they all had oil. 

As robosmith would say, Duh! 

You sure spend a lot of time not thinking for someone who suggests others should think  

But danielle smith went down and met with them and tried to build relations, and doug ford tried to impose his own tariffs.  Currently ontario is getitng the worst of it from the states in the way of counter tariffs whereas alberta is getting off with next to nothing. Quebec is getting hammered too and they talked about electricity taxes as well at one point. 

Just saying, smith may have been more correct than ontario was given the soft treatment.

 

[blackbird]

36 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

We really do need to find alternative markets for our copper, aluminium (lol), steel and oil. 

We could have been shipping and selling far more oil and natural gas to Asia and Europe for years if the Liberals had allowed pipelines and not put their insane carbon caps on industry and carbon taxes.  We would have had a much more prosperous country now.   Remains to be seen what Carney will do about it.

Edited July 9, 2025 by blackbird

[CdnFox]

30 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

We really do need to find alternative markets for our copper, aluminium (lol), steel and oil. 

We do, but that's not so easy.

Alternatives would be used at ourselves, and build up Industries within Canada that had a need for it so that we were buying our own product more.

We have been hewers of wood and drawers of water for so long But we don't make a lot. Unfortunately instead of investing into that kind of thing over the last 10 years the liberals have spent tens of millions of dollars buying battery plants that are now not proceeding.

But I mean it's obvious, it's a prop up our steel industry we should be building Pipelines. Propping up our copper industry maybe we should be building transmission lines between provinces as well, the Energy Corridor that we were supposed to be starting at Carney hasn't really done anything about.

That would be a lot of copper and a lot of steel. And frankly we should be seriously considering boycotting the united states for some of our materials and minerals and energy if they are going to make unreasonable demands. Half of their military products contain our nickel. They're welcome to import copper from Halfway Around the World, that's going to cost them more money.

Standing up for Canada would mean going to the united states and saying that we're Putting everything on the table, a full ban on defense cooperation, passage through our arctic waters, all of our minerals materials metals and energy including electricity and oil and that we will put out an official advisory that our people should not go to the states because it's not safe. But we'll take some of those things off the table if the US wants to talk about fair and reasonable trade relations.

Donald trump is a bully. And if bully's going to try and hit you once or twice. But if you hit back as hard as you can and never let them beat you and sooner or later they step down and that's exactly what happened with china and that's exactly would happen with us.

And yes we have to borrow another trillion dollars to get through the mess while pipelines and stuff were built but we would eventually find other markets and we would eventually start selling stuff to them and we would eventually become more self-sufficient and long before then the united states would come back and say we want to do business

Just now, blackbird said:

We could have been shipping and selling far more oil to Asia and Europe for years if the Liberals had allowed pipelines and not put their insane carbon caps on industry and carbon taxes.  Remains to be seen what Carney will do about it.

For sure.

And Carney is talking a great game, he says he's all about massive amounts of new pipelines etc. Except he also says he won't do it unless everybody is in agreement in every province etc etc. Which means he's already setting up someone else to take the blame.

 

[WestCanMan]

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Alternatives would be used at ourselves, and build up Industries within Canada that had a need for it so that we were buying our own product more.

We have been hewers of wood and drawers of water for so long But we don't make a lot. Unfortunately instead of investing into that kind of thing over the last 10 years the liberals have spent tens of millions of dollars buying battery plants that are now not proceeding.

IIRC Sweden harvests a fraction of the wood that we do, but generates ten times the amount of GDP from it. I'm too lazy to check right now lol. 

[Shady]

Meanwhile Carney is awol.  Still no trade deal with the USA and now he’s going on vacation.

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, Shady said:

Meanwhile Carney is awol.  Still no trade deal with the USA and now he’s going on vacation.

Paid for by whom?

Best case taxpayers are funding his unearned vacation, but I bet he gets a lot of "perks" where he's going.

[herbie]

18 hours ago, blackbird said:

We could have been shipping and selling far more oil and natural gas to Asia and Europe for years if the Liberals had allowed pipelines and not put their insane carbon caps on industry and carbon taxes.  We would have had a much more prosperous country now.   Remains to be seen what Carney will do about it.

They DID allow pipelines, we're shipping oil and gas right now and you're STILL spoouting the bullshit.
Typical cantservative mentality, can't even see right now gotta dwell on how you think it used to be and invent issues.
Fortunately for the leftist extremist eco-nazi Copper mines in BC almost all the ore goes to Asia not the USA.

And how the hell is any country supposed to deal with a compulsive cretin that spouts tariffs on some new thing every damn day? Even if you do make a trade deal, he'll come up with another thing you didn't cover in it or even rip up the deal on a whim. 

[CdnFox]

Just now, herbie said:

They DID allow pipelines, we're shipping oil and gas right now and you're STILL spoouting the bullshit.

No they didn't. They continue with one that was started before they got there and completely screwed it up but other than that they shot down every other one and canceled Northern Gateway. It is absolutely fair to say that the liberals did not allow Pipelines

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, herbie said:

They DID allow pipelines,

Get up to speed, dummy. 

The Trudeau Gov't chased away over $130B in energy sector investment that was ready to break ground, and untold other hundreds of billions of dollars since then. 

When we finally do get a government here that's energy-friendly, probably when our new president Donald Trump is in charge here, we are going to be starting right from the planning and proposal stages.

[WestCanMan]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

No they didn't. They continue with one that was started before they got there and completely screwed it up but other than that they shot down every other one and canceled Northern Gateway. It is absolutely fair to say that the liberals did not allow Pipelines

He doesn't understand what happens when the PM of a country goes in front of the cameras and says: "We are phasing out this sector of our economy"... He thinks that investors will still come to invest there. You know, and use their corporate CC to triple the value of that country.  

Edited July 9, 2025 by WestCanMan

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

He doesn't understand what happens when the PM of a country goes in front of the cameras and says: "We are phasing out this sector of our economy"... He thinks that investors will still come to invest there. You know, and use their corporate CC to triple the value of that country.  

It doesn't help when he follows it up with "There's No Business case for selling natural gas "

[Barquentine]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

when our new president Donald Trump is in charge here

I don't get it. You hate it here and want to be an American. Why haven't you moved yet? We don't have a wall on our southern border. Go! Don't delay! Buy a Maga hat and some Trump perfume and you'll be in hog-heaven!

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

I don't get it. You hate it here and want to be an American. Why haven't you moved yet? We don't have a wall on our southern border. Go! Don't delay! Buy a Maga hat and some Trump perfume and you'll be in hog-heaven!

Why would he bother packing up and going there when the way Carney's going the us is going to come here first?

[herbie]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

t is absolutely fair to say that the liberals did not allow Pipelines

When you love to conveniently omit they paid for the completion of it, it seems to be.
When you constantly deny the people here were against the Enbridge proposal and for the tanker ban.
When you insist they have no right over their own area, only obligations to the oil companies.
When the point behind every post on every subject is that the rights of everyone infringe on your own.
When you boast you're a conservative yet can't distinguish the roles of govt and the roles of free enterprise.
When the subject is copper and you deflect it to oil and gas.

Mr Orange Oaf thinks he's helping his promise to end inflation when he's adding a disguised tax on almost everything bought and sold in the USA? One that's DOUBLE THE GST as a minimum and orders of magnitude more in others.
A self professed business expert who can't even see how destructive that is and simply lies even more how it will "help" his country. 

 

 

[CdnFox]

52 minutes ago, herbie said:

When you love to conveniently omit they paid for the completion of it, it seems to be.

But they didn't. They paid for one that was started before they even came to office. As I said.

But after that they absolutely did not and they did everything humanly possible to block them.

So the only convenient thing around here is that you're lying your ass off.

And I never once suggested that people weren't against the Eembridge pipeline I never even commented on people's feelings towards the pipeline at all. So lying again. 

I've never insisted anything about people's right over their own area, so you're lying again

I have no idea what you're talking about in the next one and I don't think you do either

The rest is just you having a spasm.

When all you have to defend your position is lies it's time for you to stop and think about whether or not that's a very good position. Because you sound like a twat and everyone knows you're full of shit.

The only thing I said, truthfully, is that other than a pipeline that was started before they came along, the liberals blocked every pipeline. They would cancel them, they passed laws that made them impossible including shipping laws as well as compliance laws that were not capable of being met, they insisted there was no business case for selling natural gas or other fossil fuels, they absolutely did deny building pipelines

Sorry if the truth pops your little echo chamber bubble

[Aristides]

Apparently most our copper exports don’t go to the US anyway.