Is Democracy in Canada Dead?

[LinkSoul60]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But we do know what the conservatives would have done

You can assume, but that's all it is....an assumption.  Win a federal election then we can talk about.

[herbie]

We don't need CBC. We could give every citizen outside Toronto/Vancouver $150 a month to get FOX news on satellite. That would make him happy.
Like paying for Sportsnet to watch hockey & CFL games does.

[Barquentine]

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

He did, it's a portmanteau. Odd and obfuscation. You not have gotten to Advanced English yet

Really? Can you give us a dictionary citation? Use it in a sentence? Wow us with your Advanced English!

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

First thing you've said that is accurate....  Why would I 'admit'

You wouldn't.

No left4rd has ever admitted to anything here.

While Biden was running for president you all said he was sharp as a tack, and then when you couldn't pretend any longer because he forgot where America was during the debates, you all pretended that suddenly he "wasn't healthy enough to run again, but he was still fit to be president".

You were clearly lying about that, just like you lied about how great Trudeau was, Russian collusion, vax efficacy, a sea of swastikas at the Freedom Convoy, etc, etc.

FYI the LPOC doesn't just give hundreds of millions to the CBC, they give that money to "select media outlets" and even "secret media outlets", whose names aren't revealed. For all we know that could be polling orgs. 

 

[CdnFox]

30 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

Really? Can you give us a dictionary citation? Use it in a sentence? Wow us with your Advanced English!

You don't know what a portmanteau is? 

Sure, here you go. Sentences and everything. 

noun

noun: portmanteau; plural noun: portmanteaux; plural noun: portmanteaus; noun: portmanteau word; plural noun: portmanteau words

1. 1.

   a large trunk or suitcase, typically made of stiff leather and opening into two equal parts.

    
2. 2.

   a word blending the sounds and combining the meanings of two others, for example motel (from ‘motor’ and ‘hotel’) or brunch (from ‘breakfast’ and ‘lunch’).

   "podcast is a portmanteau, a made-up word coined from a combination of the words iPod and broadcast"

   • consisting of or combining two or more aspects or qualities.

     modifier noun: portmanteau

     "a portmanteau movie composed of excerpts from his most famous films"

      

     I'm honestly embarrassed for you that you needed to ask me for a definition of that. I don't know how you get through high school without knowing what a portmanteau is.

      

     You, your teachers, and your parents should all be very embarrassed by this.

[WestCanMan]

38 minutes ago, herbie said:

We don't need CBC.

Holy shit!

You just said something intelligent for once.

Did you break out in hives? 

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We could give every citizen outside Toronto/Vancouver $150 a month to get FOX news on satellite. 

Hold old are you, honestly?

I don't think you even pay bills yet.

First you're trying to tell us that just by renovating a house using money from your CC you "tripled the value of your house", now you're saying that you think it costs $150/mo to get one channel on cable TV 😂 FYI you get a pkg that has about 6 news networks for less than $10.

You're clearly living in your mom's basement, oblivious to the world of adulthood. 

[Barquentine]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You, your teachers, and your parents should all be very embarrassed by this.

And you're a Dumbecile, a cross between Dumbass and an Imbecile. 

I knew what a portmanteau word was before you crawled out from under the rock you were hatched under.

Now , want to try again with a dictionary citation of oddfuscation or use it in a sentence? I know you have problems with whole sentences, so ask your older sister to help with your homework.

We can all make words up. That doesn't make them part of the English language.

And stop trying to be clever. You come out looking stupid every time.

[CdnFox]

25 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

And you're a Dumbecile, a cross between Dumbass and an Imbecile. 

See!?? When i take the time to explain things to you and educate you then you actually DO understand what words mean!! Congratulations, i'm glad i could help you  

26 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

knew what a portmanteau word was

You very clearly did not. 

27 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

Now , want to try again with a dictionary citation of oddfuscation 

I thought you said you knew what a portmanteau was?

how disappointing, you were SO close. 

Drat. Turns out you're as stupid as I thought all along. I got my hopes up and everything

[Barquentine]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I thought you said you knew what a portmanteau was?

Yeah, as I thought, no citations or definitions. One dumbass saying something once doesn't make it part of the English language. If it did, every mispronunciation and written mistake would be a word. Kovfefe!

Merriam-Webster:

"English includes other portmanteaus, such as brunch (breakfast and lunch) and dramedy (drama and comedy). Following Carroll's lead, English speakers have come to call these fairly common words by the not-so-common name for a type of traveling bag with two compartments."

Fairly Common! Understand?

If in a year or two, we start shearing oddfuscation being used a lot, it will be a portmanteau. But don't hold your breath.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Yeah, as I thought, no citations or definitions.

I literally gave you the definition of portmanteau earlier and you claimed you didn't need it and now you've completely forgotten.

That was like three posts ago and you have completely forgotten about it. You have the attention span of a goldfish but less of an IQ

Here you go again. Write it out and put it on your fridge this time

 

noun

noun: portmanteau; plural noun: portmanteaux; plural noun: portmanteaus; noun: portmanteau word; plural noun: portmanteau words

1. 1.

   a large trunk or suitcase, typically made of stiff leather and opening into two equal parts.

    
2. 2.

   a word blending the sounds and combining the meanings of two others, for example motel (from ‘motor’ and ‘hotel’) or brunch (from ‘breakfast’ and ‘lunch’).

   "podcast is a portmanteau, a made-up word coined from a combination of the words iPod and broadcast"

   • consisting of or combining two or more aspects or qualities.

     modifier noun: portmanteau

     "a portmanteau movie composed of excerpts from his most famous films"

[Barquentine]

10 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I literally gave you the definition of portmanteau

But I asked for the definition of oddfuscation. I thought you could read.

[cannuck]

This thread assumes there ever was something "democratic" in our way of governing.  As with everything around this subject, it quickly evolves to "mine is better than yours" - when in fact nothing the grants privilege to one group over another can in any way be considered "democratic".   

The real discussion needs to be how to eliminate partisanship and made every vote of every kind a "free" vote in which elected representatives represent those who elected them, not those who contributed to their party, their election or far more likely to their inferred and conferred benefits from being "part of the winning team".

Do this and remove ability of running any kind of deficit without plebecite and we would be on the democratic road - for the first time in history.

[Barquentine]

4 minutes ago, cannuck said:

This thread assumes there ever was something "democratic" in our way of governing.

"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except all those other forms..." Winston Churchill.

Our form of democracy has served us well over the decades.

[Legato]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

But I asked for the definition of oddfuscation. I thought you could read.

That post is an oddfuscation, well done.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Barquentine said:

But I asked for the definition of oddfuscation. I thought you could read.

But I gave you the definition of oddfuscation. It's important as I have explained several times. So the definition is a combination of odd and obfuscation. 

Are you saying you need me to look up THOSE words for you as well?  I thought you could think?  Sort of.  Sometimes. Ish. 

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, Barquentine said:

"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except all those other forms..." Winston Churchill.

Our form of democracy has served us well over the decades.

1. We just elected a complete f-tard who lied to us over and over for two months, and so the same flock of sheep that followed Trudeau blindly is now following Carney blindly. 

   That happened because our democracy failed. 

   Our democracy failed because our MSM is completely compromised. Their bias is way beyond healthy to the point where they've groomed millions of cultists like you.

2. You're seeing the world from the end-of-my-own-nose POV. FYI the majority of the people in any regional leadership structure always thought that their way of life was the right one and it would just go on forever, whether they were part of tribes in the stone age, or the feudal system in Europe, they were part of an empire, or in our case a "democracy". Well guess what Barqy - democracy isn't in our mammalian DNA or even our human DNA. It's a foreign concept that we're raised with, but people's natural tendency is to live under authoritarian rule, the way left4rds did during covid. You sacrificed freedom of speech and let the MSM/social media trample sensible discourse. Those things are essential to democracy. When they're gone, democracy is an illusion. You're voting for "pre-selected leaders who have fake solutions to the fake problems that the media presents to you". That's it. 

Democracy is only a few hundred years old. It's still an experiment, not "the new way, which is guaranteed to last forever". If you value democracy, then you would value MSM legitimacy more than LPOC control, but you do not. 

[WestCanMan]

On 7/5/2025 at 4:17 PM, Barquentine said:

I knew what a portmanteau word was before you crawled out from under the rock you were hatched under.

I woulda believed you if you said that you know what a rock was, or what crawling and hatching mean, but portmanteau has 11 letters... That's a full 4 letters clear of anything in the left4rd lexicon, and 5 letters clear of what the avg left4rd would stand a decent chance of using correctly.

FYI a word doesn't have to be in the dictionary to qualify as a portmanteau. People make them up all the time (it's called "poetic license" when you do it intentionally, as was the case here), and some of them eventually end up in standard dictionaries and/or slang dictionaries. 

Classic example, from urban dictionary:

• leftard

  a person who jumps on the liberal bandwagon without really understanding any political issues because they think it is sexy and it goes along with their hippie, (or hipster), long-haired, burner, pot-head image. These people can often be spotted at the Eugene Saturday Market buying hemp clothing for 100s of dollars, wearing outfits that cost a ton but look like they are hand made and falling apart. Leftards will never be able to engage in any meaningful discussion about their talking points, as they will only know one-sided and often vague facts about the issue, and will often hold seemingly contradictory ideas, such as supporting gay and women's rights, but being against the only liberal democracy that upholds these rights in the Middle East, namely, Israel. Leftards are what is wrong with the American Liberal and Leftist movements - they are quintessential posers who really just want to spend their parent's money on drugs, expensive music festivals and "hippie" clothes - they will never spend money on actually supporting the causes they purport to care about. They suck and I seriously dislike them.
  Q: "Hey, your outfit looks really awesome - did you make it?"
  A: "No, Im a leftard, so I spent $1000 to look homeless."
  
  That leftard was totally unable to stand up to sound argument, and had no idea of the geopolitical or social history of the issue, and I made him look like a fool in front of his pot-smoking, dread-locked posse.
  
  Hey look, a whole bevvy of leftards at the Eugene Saturday Market banging on drums and agreeing blindly with each other.

They don't mention that it's a portmanteau, and fairly new, but it's a combination of the words "leftist" and "ret4rd", in case you can't do the math.

 

Collins:

• leftard

  New Word Suggestion
  an offensive term for a person with left-wing political views [a blend of left and ******]

  Additional Information

  Lord Farage is God-Emperor of the UK. Suck it up, leftards. [comment by a Daily Mail reader on the prospect of Nigel Farage's possible ennoblement]

  Submitted By: aaholmes.9125 - 17/11/2016

  Status: This word is being monitored for evidence of usage.

   

   

[cannuck]

12 hours ago, Barquentine said:

"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except all those other forms..." Winston Churchill.

Our form of democracy has served us well over the decades.

If you had any idea how corrupt government contracting is, and how slimy the backrooms of the Uniparty are you would never make such an incredibly naive statement.  One thing that should have tipped you off is our grandchildren inheriting 2.3 trillion in combined federal/provincial debt that have been raised to line the pockets of the backrooms and friends.

 

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, cannuck said:

If you had any idea how corrupt government contracting is, and how slimy the backrooms of the Uniparty are you would never make such an incredibly naive statement.  One thing that should have tipped you off is our grandchildren inheriting 2.3 trillion in combined federal/provincial debt that have been raised to line the pockets of the backrooms and friends.

 

And the big payoff comes when they leave office and then get put on the boards of these companies that they've helped funnel money into for years. At that point they do absolutely no work and make big six figure income, and they will be on a half dozen or a dozen boards so they collect millions of dollars a year for doing nothing.

[Barquentine]

9 hours ago, cannuck said:

If you had any idea how corrupt government contracting is...you would never make such an incredibly naive statement

I do. But if you're denying that we've had had 80 years of peace and prosperity then you're incredibly naive or willfully ignorant.

[Barquentine]

13 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

That's a full 4 letters clear of anything in the left4rd lexicon, and 5 letters clear of what the avg left4rd would stand a decent chance of using correctly.

Your posts would be 90% shorter and still 100% ridiculous if you didn't say left4rd ever second word.

From the Urban dictionary:

Right wingnut:
Someone in the blogosphere who is identified as being politically on the right. Usually a f*cktard. "The right wingnuts at Little Green Footballs are going nuts over Bush's TANG memos."

You need a better source to cite.

Edited July 7, 2025 by Barquentine

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

I do. But if you're denying that we've had had 80 years of peace and prosperity then you're incredibly naive or willfully ignorant.

There's been nothing prosperous about the last 10 years. People have increasingly found it harder to put food on the table and a roof over their head. They're falling behind compared to other countries left right and center, our medical system is on the edge of collapse, crime is through the roof and especially violent crime so it's getting hard to call it peaceful.

One of our promises has tried to separate two times, and is very seriously considering a third attempt and another province is considering doing the same thing.

You are severely sugarcoating a situation that is not great. It's really hard to say this is working for Canada. About the best you can say is that so far it hasn't completely fallen apart although it is heading in that direction

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

I do. But if you're denying that we've had had 80 years of peace and prosperity then you're incredibly naive or willfully ignorant.

Barqy, look around ffs.

Our Deputy PM said "We need to make stronger alliances with nuclear-armed countries, like Britain and France, so that they can protect us from America". 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/british-nuclear-weapons-protect-canada-233019491.html

I don't give a shit about any of her other qualifications or experience, even any successes she may have had (truly zero if we're being honest), what she said there was so colossally stupid on every level that she should have been turfed on the spot. 

You can't find anything that Poilievre ever said that was even remotely close to that, yet the CBC and leftards didn't mention how stupid her comment was and they are are on PP's case for maybe saying something offensive at some point, but they can't quite put their finger on it? 

But it gets better: to throw gasoline on Freeland's stupid comments, our PM just went and signed a "Canada-Europe Defence Alliance" 😂. Gimme, a fking, break. 

FYI if the US wanted to take us over militarily, there's not a single thing that anyone in the world could do. 

• probably 65-80% of our population is below the 49th parallel, in southern Ont and Que. Even Victoria BC is below the 49th
• 90% of the population of BC outside of Victoria is basically on the US Border. Delta, Surrey,Langley and Abbotsford are actually ON the border. Vancouver, Richmond, Burnaby, Coquitlam, PoCo, Port Moody, Maple Ridge, Mission, Pitt Meadows, Chilliwack are all within a few kilometres. 
• We don't have a single fighter plane that can take on an F-22 or F-35. We don't have anti-aircraft batteries and radar to stop cruise missiles ir hypersonic missiles, ballistic missiles, or ICBMs. We don't have main battle tanks to match the Americans. We don't have their close support planes or helicopters. 

95% of our population is within a 30-minute drive of the US border for an M1 Abrams tank. Calgary, Edmonton, Regina, Kelowna, Kamloops and Saskatoon are our only major cities outside of that. 

And NEWSFLASH - Europe isn't going the threaten the US with nuclear weapons just to protect our sovereignty. At some point you have to look at the hopelessness of the situation and the cost to even attempt a defence and realize that it's just not worth it. We could throw away the lives of all of our soldiers without making a noticeable dent in the US military. 

The government that we have is dishonest, stupid, and seems entirely traitorous. We are a breeding grounds for terrorists that want to attack India and the US (and ourselves, as usual), and we are alienating those countries day-by-day. 

Canada has become a negative on the world stage, as far as promoting western democracy is concerned, if we're being honest. 

There was a time when Canada had a useful military and a strong government and we weren't a breeding ground for terrorism, and that time is long gone. Democracy here was a swing and a miss. 

If the US moves to take over Canada, I say we stand aside so no one gets hurt. 

[WestCanMan]

5 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Your posts would be 90% shorter and still 100% ridiculous if you didn't say left4rd ever second word.

I'm not gonna waste the effort of finding less accurate words to describe people who lie and slander in almost every single post just for the sake of politeness. 

I don't understand why more people don't take offence to being lied to, but it's not something that I tolerate. 

If you don't wanna be called a leftard, be honest. 

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Right wingnut:
Someone in the blogosphere who is identified as being politically on the right. Usually a f*cktard. "The right wingnuts at Little Green Footballs are going nuts over Bush's TANG memos."

You need a better source to cite.

Your "definition" is no more than spurious, unsubstantiated, ridiculous insults. 

If you look at the Collins definition of leftard, you'll see that it describes the word as just being offensive, which is correct, it doesn't pass judgment without evidence.

If you look at the Urban Dictionary result for leftard it's more judgmental, but it also details which members of the leftist group actually qualifies as a leftard and why.

It's 100% true that a certain percentage of any group is at least half a bubble off plumb, even conservatives, but you need to provide some examples of what qualifies them when you want to describe them thusly. For example, the word "wingnut" is light for people who believe that "a 12-yr-old who was raped and impregnated by a close relative should have to carry the baby to term because that's what God wants", they're probably beyond f-tarded. 

As far as our conversation about "leftards and big words" is concerned, it's an ongoing issue here. There are hundreds of posts about it. Maybe 1,000. Leftards just refuse to learn how to use words properly. It's a common trait. 

[Barquentine]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Your "definition" is no more than spurious

Not my definition, dude. It's from The Urban Dictionary, so it must be true, right?

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

For example, the word "wingnut" is light for people who believe that "a 12-yr-old who was raped and impregnated by a close relative should have to carry the baby to term because that's what God wants", they're probably beyond f-tarded. 

I can agree with that.