Carney, Master Economist, Refuses To Table A Budget This Year.

August1991 · Friday at 02:11 AM

On 5/14/2025 at 7:11 PM, CdnFox said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberals-won-t-table-budget-1.7534962

Like WHAT the actual EFF?!?!

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I noted this too.

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In Carney's mind, he has a majority.

(He has the NDP locked down for 18 months at least.)

eyeball · Friday at 02:16 AM

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

So you don't believe that a government has a responsibility to publish a budget

Sure they have that responsibility, I just don't expect it to have much if any impact on my life and there's next to nothing I can do about it in any case.

eyeball · Friday at 02:23 AM

How big a deal will a Carney budget be in my life? I take my cue from this big Canada Day income tax cut...it's like what...$15 bucks a week?

That won't even buy a six pack of Lucky Lager never mind Jiffy-Pop.

CdnFox · Friday at 02:53 AM

41 minutes ago, August1991 said:

I noted this too.

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In Carney's mind, he has a majority.

(He has the NDP locked down for 18 months at least.)

Well for heaven's sake even governments with a majority put out a budget

37 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Sure they have that responsibility, I just don't expect it to have much if any impact on my life and there's next to nothing I can do about it in any case.

Again, a stupid thing to say.

Especially for a guy who supposedly all about accountability. A budget is a plan of the fiscal responsibility and targets of a government over the next year and allows people to measure whether or not they met it told him to account if they don't

Oh but it's a liberal government so you don't believe in holding them to account. I forgot. You'd only be angry about this if it was a conservative government

CdnFox · Friday at 02:56 AM

31 minutes ago, eyeball said:

How big a deal will a Carney budget be in my life?

Impossible to say until he tables it.

What if he's planning on increasing taxes 50%? that will have an impact on your life, assuming that you are not on pogey

And of course there's something you can do about it. The public frequently applies political pressure to political parties when they do things that the people don't approve of. Happens all the time

He's got a minority government. He cannot afford to be pissing people off to the point where they hold a grudge. If there were spending or cuts that you didn't approve of and other people agreed with you he would have to take that into account and reconsider his actions

Once again we see that you actually don't care about accountability in the slightest, especially liberal accountability

eyeball · Friday at 04:38 AM

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Especially for a guy who supposedly all about accountability.

I said, Sure they have that responsibility.

Read much?

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

You'd only be angry about this if it was a conservative government

Liberals are right wingers from where I'm sitting. Meanwhile you'd be making excuses, I can hear Poilievre now...the books are worse than we thought. Wow, really? Duh, what were you expecting?

Of course if we had a real transparency act we'd know where things stand. But who knows maybe one day we'll have an Accountability in Government Act that actually is what it says.

BTW Stephen Harper waited 8 months to come up with a budget when he won his first election. Don't choke on those pearls.

eyeball · Friday at 04:51 AM

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

And of course there's something you can do about it...

He's got a minority government

Yup, thanks to voters like me.🤣

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Once again we see that you actually don't care about accountability in the slightest, especially liberal accountability

I don't expect Liberal accountability, that's why I haven't voted for one in 45 years or more.

CdnFox · Friday at 06:14 AM

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

I said, Sure they have that responsibility.

Read much?

Once again more than you. In fact i continued to read to the point where you said it doesn't matter to you.

So again i was right, you don't care about accountability. Especially when it's liberal.

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Of course if we had a real transparency act we'd know where things stand.

You don't want transparency. Producing a budget and having the watchdog comment on it at the end of the year is transparency. It's one of the most important of all the transparancies - seeing whether the spending of public taxpayer money was done within accordance of a plan and whether it was successful.

It's always fun pointing out what a hypocritical liar you are You literally just admitted transparancy "Doesn't affect your life" and you don't care about it.

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Yup, thanks to voters like me.🤣

Ahhh ... you mean because all the left wing supporters voted for the liberals. Otherwise it would have been a cpc majority.

Sure. You kept the liberals in this time, well done. But we knew you supported them all along.

Politics1990 · Friday at 03:55 PM

hopefully carney comes thru as a decent to average prime minister cause its the last chance i am giving the liberals . if he turns out to be a meh pm i am going back to the NDP and staying there lol🤣

eyeball · Friday at 04:12 PM

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You don't want transparency. Producing a budget and having the watchdog comment on it at the end of the year is transparency. It's one of the most important of all the transparancies - seeing whether the spending of public taxpayer money was done within accordance of a plan and whether it was successful.

Stephen Harper waited 8 months to come up with a budget when he won his first election.

Apparently it's only the most important when it's not a Conservative.

Moonbox · Friday at 05:23 PM

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Stephen Harper waited 8 months to come up with a budget when he won his first election.

Apparently it's only the most important when it's not a Conservative.

That's how logic works when you're a hysterical partisan, dontcha know?

Barquentine · Friday at 07:53 PM

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So you don't believe that a government has a responsibility to publish a budget

A budget takes months to prepare in normal times. These ain't normal times. With a recent election, summer break, etc... Sept. would be the earliest time for a budget. But budgets are based on predictions and assumptions. How do you make economic predictions with the Orange Turd changing his mind every couple of days (50 changes to tariffs since Trump brought them in according to Abby Philips Newsnight pundits). If the tariff mess is cleaned up, we still might see a budget this fall. I hope so.

taxme · Friday at 08:49 PM

On 5/14/2025 at 4:16 PM, WestCanMan said:

"Budgets? We don't need no stinking budgets!"

It makes sense from a completely fascist POV: if his budget gets defeated in the HoC it's considered a vote of no confidence (I read that somewhere), triggering an election, and he's gonna run a deficit so bloated that it makes Whoopi look anorexic.

We ain't seen nuttin' yet, pardner as to what that arse hole Corney is going to do to Canada and Canadians. Corney just borrowed $73 billion dollars to be given to pretty much the rest of the world. This new dictator in Ottawa hates this country and Corney is on the warpath to finish off Canada like old man comrade Turdeau started decades ago. Stupid is stupid and that is what liberalism is all about. Keep the stupidity going here in Canada.

We should never let those imbecilic lieberals, who voted for Corney, to ever forget what they have done to Canada. Canada is starting to resemble Mexico and our Canadian peso shows that. I think that i should look for a sombrero to buy and wear and try to fit in looking like a Mexican. 🙃

WestCanMan · Friday at 11:26 PM

2 hours ago, taxme said:

We ain't seen nuttin' yet, pardner as to what that arse hole Corney is going to do to Canada and Canadians. Corney just borrowed $73 billion dollars to be given to pretty much the rest of the world. This new dictator in Ottawa hates this country and Corney is on the warpath to finish off Canada like old man comrade Turdeau started decades ago. Stupid is stupid and that is what liberalism is all about. Keep the stupidity going here in Canada.

We should never let those imbecilic lieberals, who voted for Corney, to ever forget what they have done to Canada. Canada is starting to resemble Mexico and our Canadian peso shows that. I think that i should look for a sombrero to buy and wear and try to fit in looking like a Mexican. 🙃

Canadians will keep dying on the street, but some muslim country will be prepared to deal with manmade global somethinging.

CdnFox · Friday at 11:59 PM

8 hours ago, Politics1990 said:

hopefully carney comes thru as a decent to average prime minister cause its the last chance i am giving the liberals . if he turns out to be a meh pm i am going back to the NDP and staying there lol🤣

The ndp ARE the liberals. Or have been for the last 4 years.

CdnFox · Saturday at 12:03 AM

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

Stephen Harper waited 8 months to come up with a budget when he won his first election.

Apparently it's only the most important when it's not a Conservative.

What, so you're just out and out lying now?

2006 Canadian federal budget - Wikipedia

The budget was presented ON MAY 2nd.

The election was on JANUARY 23rd.

So at MOST you could say he presented it THREE months after he was elected. .And only ONE month after when it's traditional to do so.

You're such a lying sack of shit.

CdnFox · Saturday at 12:05 AM

6 hours ago, Moonbox said:

That's how logic works when you're a hysterical partisan, dontcha know?

Oh look, once again you're talking without knowing a thing about what you're talking about.

As i just posted,

2006 Canadian federal budget - Wikipedia

Harper delivered his budget within 3 months of winning office, 1 month after it would traditionally be presented in the house and that's not that uncommon.

So. What were you saying about hyper partisans who just spout any old lie to prop up their tribal echo chamber? LOLOLOL

It took you only one sentence to look like a loser that time

CdnFox · Saturday at 12:24 AM

4 hours ago, Barquentine said:

A budget takes months to prepare in normal times.

Not really. Just about every single gov't that has won power turned one in on time. As noted when harper won power for the first time he released a budget within 3 months, just 1 month after you'd normally expect to see it.

And... HE WASN"T THE GOV"T BEFORE THAT. THE LIBERALS WERE.

they have all the people, they know the budgets, they know the numbers, they were the gov't

There MIGHT be an excuse if he was taking over from another party but there's no excuse for this. What happened to "I have a plan"?

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Sept. would be the earliest time for a budget.

Fine, even if you wanted to be INSANELY generous, then he should be releasing his full budget in september when the house goes back.

Instead, he's not going to release one this year at all and will do a basic 'economic update' which is useless without a budget SOMETIME in the fall, when he feels like it.

We MIGHT get a budget the year after. No promises so far.

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But budgets are based on predictions and assumptions. How do you make economic predictions with the Orange Turd changing his mind every couple of days (50 changes to tariffs since Trump brought them in according to Abby Philips Newsnight pundits). If the tariff mess is cleaned up, we still might see a budget this fall. I hope so.

Every single province has turned out a budget. It is NOT hard. You budget based on what you know and then you tell people the budget has some lee way built in for 'unpredictable' orange factors and IF things go off the rails THEN you do an economic update and you make corrections. It's not like Canadians won't forgive you for trump related weirdness.

But he's been clear, no budget this year. that is completely indefensible. It creates uncertainty in our own markets, our businesses and investors will not like the uncertainty, it completely robs the opposition who would normally serve on committees looking at expenditures the ability to hold the gov't to account. The public does not know where the money is intended to be spent that they are required to give the gov't which is pretty horrible. And the opposition gets no opportunity to share their thoughts before the budget goes to vote so they get no say in the expendiures which is a pretty flagrant violation of democracy.

This is kind of a big deal, and this is how they're starting out. With secrets and zero accountability. Even you are going to have to admit this is not how things should be.

Moonbox · Saturday at 01:22 AM

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

So. What were you saying about hyper partisans who just spout any old lie to prop up their tribal echo chamber? LOLOLOL

The blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile. Good job muppet. You finally got one. 👍

99/100 times, I'm pretty comfortable giving eyeball the benefit of the doubt over a chucklef*ck like you.

Edited Saturday at 01:24 AM by Moonbox

Army Guy · Saturday at 02:15 AM

52 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

The blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile. Good job muppet. You finally got one. 👍

99/100 times, I'm pretty comfortable giving eyeball the benefit of the doubt over a chucklef*ck like you.

This is what i've been saying over and over again, nothing of any value.........God i'm going to miss your banter when your gone....

CdnFox · Saturday at 02:22 AM

57 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

The blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile.

Dude you are wrong literally every time we talk this is the most recent example. Whether it's not knowing what a variable is, or insisting that nobody mentioned milk in a conversation about milk, or posting a study that proves i was right and the study i already posted was correct, or not being able to comprehend that 100 - 50 is 50.

This is just the latest example. I'll probably bug you about it for a while

About all we can say about you is that you may be wrong a lot but by god you're consistent

Moonbox · Saturday at 02:41 AM

18 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Dude you are wrong literally every time we talk

Right, like how the Conservatives "swept" the GTA? 🤡

Moonbox · Saturday at 02:44 AM

27 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

This is what i've been saying over and over again, nothing of any value.........God i'm going to miss your banter when your gone....

At any moment you can put me on ignore. I'd be happy not hear from you. 👍

eyeball · Saturday at 02:59 AM

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So at MOST you could say he presented it THREE months after he was elected. .And only ONE month after when it's traditional to do so.

Okay, in the meantime you're practically demanding Carney come up with one next week.

CdnFox · Saturday at 03:39 AM

52 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Right, like how the Conservatives "swept" the GTA? 🤡

Exactly! And you kept zooming in till it didn't look like there was so much blue

Or like when you claimed a book was completely useless and when asked for evidence,,,, you could only find one small and meaningless error and couldnt' refute the rest

And once again you lost a discussion in another thread and followed me around trying to make a random insult to make yourself feel better and lo and behold you've made yourself look stupid yet again really you'd think you'd learn, it's effing hilarious!