Danielle Smith Address to Albertans

[Benz]

13 hours ago, Army Guy said:

This is your Canada getting along....only nobody cares or put much thought into what will happen if Alberta / Quebec actually does go....

Do you think she is just bluffing like Robert bourrassa was doing back then, or she is totally converted to the concept of Alberta`s sovereignty?

In other words, if Carney gives her most ofwhat she wants, do you think she will stop heading toward Alberta's sovereignty, or she stood up Alberta's autonomy until the end?

[WestCanMan]

23 hours ago, Aristides said:

Smith pulling this the day before Trump and Carney meet is pure sabotage. Sometimes I think she makes sense and other times it's WTF is the matter with you. This is the latter in a big way. She really is a PoS. 

Sabotage was Ford shilling for Carney before the election.   (elbows up was on full display yesterday 😂, Ford must be so happy about Carney getting concessions from Trump on cars, steel and Aluminum).

Sabotage was the CBC letting Carney's connections to Xi and Trump go unnoticed.

Sabotage was the CBC hiding Commey's lie about Trump's phone call until after early voting. 

Just like you guys can say "Ford met with Trump and back-stabbed Poilievre for Ontario", Danielle Smith actually went and met with Trump for Alberta. 

There is no Canada left between BC and western Manitoba, and even Manitoba might leave Canada if those two leave. 

D Smith talked about the LPOC gov't's stupidity regarding the threat of an energy embargo: 

 

Edited May 7 by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

12 hours ago, Aristides said:

For someone who says she isn't a separatist she sure talks and acts like one. Coming out with this the day before Carney's meeting with Trump says she doesn't give a shit about Canada.

She's the Premier of Alberta, and she's representing them according to their wishes. 

There's a solid chance that Alberta will separate. Why should she pretend that there isn't? Who would that benefit? Should it just come as a surprise? 

[ExFlyer]

37 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

The carney is in Trump's pocket. That much is clear. He's also a liar and a thief. That much is already proven.

At the end of the month, I'm flying off to southern Alberta to celebrate my parents' anniversary with them. Apparently, much of my extended family will be there too. I'm going to ask them what they think of this separation thing. I anticipate one loud reaction but we'll see.

In the meantime, the carney will do as Trump dictates and Canada may actually benefit from that. But to even suggest that this...opportunistic little pee-on will stand up to Trump is ridiculous. The carney represents the carney. That's all he represents. You can...and likely will...try to fool yourself into believing otherwise. But his actions will quickly betray him.

As for Alberta...should they decide to separate, Canada will become a dysfunctional country. It will begin to fall apart. And for what? Greenie bullshit that is proven false over and over again.

The whole situation is pathetic.

If anyone is in Trumps pocket it is Polievre and Smith.

I believe Carney is smart...he did not say anything to pi$$ off Trump, even stroked him a bit. Of course he did not say anything derogatory (like that fool Trudeau did) and he also did not tell the public anything that may have gone on during the closed door meetings.

I truly believe that Carney is the person to deal with Trump as opposed to Polievere.

You (and I ) do not have to like him but we have him and he will do just fine against Trump.

My question was will Polievre side with Smith in her campaign for separation since he is Albertan and will now represent a riding in her province or will he be a Canadian and fight for Canada?

Oh and, I am from Vancouver and lived in Edmonton for 8 years.

[WestCanMan]

12 hours ago, Army Guy said:

She is doing her job, She is the premier of Alberta, let carney worry about Canada. And we will see if Carney is going to keep his promises and have Alberta interest in heart with pipelines and energy corridors...or drive that wedge even further apart...

At the debates Carney, Singh and Blanchett were quick to point out that any projects started now wouldn't be built in time to help Canada fend of Trump-style aggression from the US for 10-15 years, but what they failed to notice was that we'd already have those pipelines built, or damn close to it, if not for Trudeau's anti-energy policies of 2015-2025. It was feckless, caving-in policies of the Lib gov't that led us to this point of weakness. 

[WestCanMan]

47 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

The carney is in Trump's pocket. That much is clear. He's also a liar and a thief. That much is already proven.

At the end of the month, I'm flying off to southern Alberta to celebrate my parents' anniversary with them. Apparently, much of my extended family will be there too. I'm going to ask them what they think of this separation thing. I anticipate one loud reaction but we'll see.

In the meantime, the carney will do as Trump dictates and Canada may actually benefit from that. But to even suggest that this...opportunistic little pee-on will stand up to Trump is ridiculous. The carney represents the carney. That's all he represents. You can...and likely will...try to fool yourself into believing otherwise. But his actions will quickly betray him.

As for Alberta...should they decide to separate, Canada will become a dysfunctional country. It will begin to fall apart. And for what? Greenie bullshit that is proven false over and over again.

The whole situation is pathetic.

That's the worst part of it.

Every country in Asia, Europe, Africa, the ME (not an actual continent, I get it), and South America goes all-out for energy production, but in Canada we hamstring our entire economy for low-IQ nutjobs, and then we end up with their feckless puppet leaders trying to solve the very problem that they created in the first place.

[WestCanMan]

16 minutes ago, Benz said:

Do you think she is just bluffing like Robert bourrassa was doing back then, or she is totally converted to the concept of Alberta`s sovereignty?

In other words, if Carney gives her most ofwhat she wants, do you think she will stop heading toward Alberta's sovereignty, or she stood up Alberta's autonomy until the end?

She's not advocating for sovereignty, she's the premier and there is a petition going around her province to trigger a separatist vote. There are a lot of Albertans who are overwhelmingly in favour of it. 

Cue the fake polls...

[Nationalist]

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

That's the worst part of it.

Every country in Asia, Europe, Africa, the ME (not an actual continent, I get it), and South America goes all-out for energy production, but in Canada we hamstring our entire economy for low-IQ nutjobs, and then we end up with their feckless puppet leaders trying to solve the very problem that they created in the first place.

The climate means nothing but a convenient talking point to these jack-asses. Nor...I suspect...does the concept of national unity and prosperity. They've been reduced to hatred. Hell these tweenkies would all chop their fingers off, if they thought it would hurt Orangemanbad.

Elbows Up...Elbows Up...

M0rons.

[Aristides]

23 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

She's not advocating for sovereignty, she's the premier and there is a petition going around her province to trigger a separatist vote. There are a lot of Albertans who are overwhelmingly in favour of it. 

Cue the fake polls...

She has cut in half the number of signatures required to trigger a referendum and doubled time allowed to raise them. How is that not advocating for sovereignty?

[CdnFox]

On 5/5/2025 at 7:01 PM, Barquentine said:

Not to Mor-on-Lago, dumbfugg!

They both went to trump. Suck it up 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

If anyone is in Trumps pocket it is Polievre and Smith.

 

It's pretty obvious that that's not true. Trump has been quite clear, trump wanted Kearney and Trump got Kearney Trump did not want Poilievre and he doesn't care about smith

He considers carney to be his man. Carney was his choice to win and he brags about how he helped him.

There's no point in lying about it now, it's pretty bloody obvious

[CdnFox]

29 minutes ago, Aristides said:

She has cut in half the number of signatures required to trigger a referendum and doubled time allowed to raise them. How is that not advocating for sovereignty?

Making it easier for others to have a voice it's not the same as advocacy

If she was advocating for it she would simply put it on the referendum. There's absolutely nothing stopping her.

What she signaling is that if people say they want it she'll back it. And everything she said was true you can't have ottawa attacking a province and driving it into poverty every other day of the week for 10 years and not have them get to this point. I'm actually amazed it took this long

I think she's asking for is unreasonable or weird. If carney is serious he will agree to those things and set a completely new tone for Alberta. But I suspect he won't agree to those things or he will appear to but will string her along until the next election. And that is playing with fire

[ExFlyer]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It's pretty obvious that that's not true. Trump has been quite clear, trump wanted Kearney and Trump got Kearney Trump did not want Poilievre and he doesn't care about smith

He considers carney to be his man. Carney was his choice to win and he brags about how he helped him.

There's no point in lying about it now, it's pretty bloody obvious

Of course he wanted Carney. He can talk business with him. He can negotiate intelligently with him.

He has watched PP over the years when all PP could do was whine abut Trudeau. Trump knows Trudeau is gone but can not be sure PP is aware of that LOL

There is no point whining about it, PP is a LOSER and Trump does want to be in the same room as LOSERS,...Like you...

[CdnFox]

53 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Of course he wanted Carney. He can talk business with him. He can negotiate intelligently with him.

So you are argument is that trump made a good decision because he cherishes intelligent discussion and negotiation

That's your stance. You're going with that. Not that he thinks he can bully him but that he really has been yearning for someone to have an intelligent discussion with   

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

She has cut in half the number of signatures required to trigger a referendum and doubled time allowed to raise them. How is that not advocating for sovereignty?

Making the process realistic and fair still isn't "advocating". 

She's not out there urging Albertans to opt for separation. 

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

If anyone is in Trumps pocket it is Polievre and Smith.

I believe Carney is smart...he did not say anything to pi$$ off Trump, even stroked him a bit. Of course he did not say anything derogatory (like that fool Trudeau did) and he also did not tell the public anything that may have gone on during the closed door meetings.

I truly believe that Carney is the person to deal with Trump as opposed to Polievere.

You (and I ) do not have to like him but we have him and he will do just fine against Trump.

My question was will Polievre side with Smith in her campaign for separation since he is Albertan and will now represent a riding in her province or will he be a Canadian and fight for Canada?

Oh and, I am from Vancouver and lived in Edmonton for 8 years.

The carney is not smart. He's in Trump's pocket.

Elbows Up...lol

[CdnFox]

16 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Making the process realistic and fair still isn't "advocating". 

She's not out there urging Albertans to opt for separation. 

And if she was she would put it on the ballot herself. It's not like she can't. Quebec governments have

[cougar]

On 5/5/2025 at 2:31 PM, WestCanMan said:

It's impossible to argue against anything that she said here: she mentioned what Alberta "requires" from the federal gov't, and mentioned a few recent issues:

• "Half a trillion dollars in investments scared away by federal gov't policies"
• "Canada dead last in GDP growth"
• "interfered in provincial matters"
• "police harassed gun owners"

She just went off on ridiculous LPOC policies and outlined their cost to businesses and families here. 

 

Did she rebuilt Jasper yet?    Nothing more than a puppet of the oil and gas industry she is.   We can grow in all kinds of other directions , just not the one she has in mind.

[ExFlyer]

42 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So you are argument is that trump made a good decision because he cherishes intelligent discussion and negotiation

That's your stance. You're going with that. Not that he thinks he can bully him but that he really has been yearning for someone to have an intelligent discussion with   

Ho Humm,, I sure did not expect anything intelligent from you LOL

Suck it up buttercup...LOSER

[Nefarious Banana]

On 5/6/2025 at 9:10 AM, Aristides said:

Smith pulling this the day before Trump and Carney meet is pure sabotage. Sometimes I think she makes sense and other times it's WTF is the matter with you. This is the latter in a big way. She really is a PoS. 

Are you an Albertan?

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Ho Humm,,

Wow!! Incredible response! If only the rest of the world had your brilliance LOL

Well that would be your standard level of stupidity when you don't have an actual response and got called out.

I agree with you, your idea that somehow trump likes carney because he really values intelligent conversation was an absolutely retarded thing to say

He likes Kearney because carney is a pushover and his mind is already doing business with people he knows so he feels he's got a level of control. Carney is trump's man. Poilievre never was

[ExFlyer]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Wow!! Incredible response! ..

Just trying to get down to your level.

They say you have to speak to the lowest level and you, by far, are the lowest on this forum    

Your elevator does not go up

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, cougar said:

Did she rebuilt Jasper yet?    Nothing more than a puppet of the oil and gas industry she is.   We can grow in all kinds of other directions , just not the one she has in mind.

Of course. 

It's a process.

Right now the feds want to spend their money on "affordable housing", and the provincial gov't was focusing on restoring it to its previous form and character: i.e. detached homes.

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Making the process realistic and fair still isn't "advocating". 

She's not out there urging Albertans to opt for separation. 

It was realistic and fair before. It was set by Kenny. Why would she change it if she doesn't want it to happen.

Lowering the bar just means we can expect endless referendums. We already know from Quebec that a no vote just means until next time to separatists.

 

[TreeBeard]

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

The carney is in Trump's pocket.

Isn’t this something you Trump fans should like about the guy?