Has Carney announced he will stop Canada's wasted foreign aid spending?

[Army Guy]

22 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

If I were a fisherman in NB, would that affect whether we’re a wealthy nation or not?  

Yes, it would show that our nation is not as rich as you think it is....one in four canadians going to food banks, tent cities in all our towns and cities across the nation....all our federal departments underfunded....well over a trillion in debt...ya sounds rich to me....

[TreeBeard]

44 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Yes, it would show that our nation is not as rich as you think it is....

Why would me being a fisherman in NB make any difference to how wealth is calculated for a nation?  
 

44 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

one in four canadians going to food banks

10 million Canadians rely on food banks?  I call BS.  
 

44 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

tent cities in all our towns and cities across the nation

Does the existence of tent cities mean we’re not one of the 30 richest nations on the planet?

 

45 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

all our federal departments underfunded

You don’t sound like the type to want to increase government spending.  
 

45 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

well over a trillion in debt

How do we compare to the rest of the G7?  
 

What country do you think is the wealthiest in the world?

[CdnFox]

26 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Why would me being a fisherman in NB make any difference to how wealth is calculated for a nation?  
 

10 million Canadians rely on food banks?  I call BS.  
 

Does the existence of tent cities mean we’re not one of the 30 richest nations on the planet?

 

You don’t sound like the type to want to increase government spending.  
 

How do we compare to the rest of the G7?  
 

What country do you think is the wealthiest in the world?

Food Banks Canada report says 25 per cent of Canadians are living in poverty, local food banks not surprised - StrathmoreNow.com - Local news, Weather, Sports, Free Classifieds, and Job Listings for Strathmore and southern Alberta.

 

Show him that @Army Guy .  I post a lot of facts so he likes to try to avoid me and pretend he cant see the links. 

[taxme]

On 5/4/2025 at 3:34 PM, blackbird said:

Since PM Carney seems to want to portray himself as different than Trudeau, it would be nice to see what he is going to do about some of the policies that happened under Trudeau.  But I have not heard about what changes Carney will make.  In this case I am thinking about foreign aid spending which was in the billions per year.  From this article, it looks like much of it was questionable and it appears to have had very little affect.  As PM Carney is a long established globalist and spent many years mixing with the WEF, Vatican, and U.N. globalists, I have a feeling that billions of dollars will continue to be doled out to the rest of the world every year, much of it without accountability.

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The government of Canada’s annual donations in foreign aid to Third World countries is one of the most overlooked issues in Canadian society. Billions of dollars are being shipped out of the country each year under spurious circumstances.

In 2020, the Liberal government increased international assistance spending by 3.5% to $6.6 billion, up from $6.4 billion in 2019.

It must be mentioned that the outflow of these billions began well before Justin Trudeau came along. Historically speaking, the funding reaches back to Canada’s United Nations affiliation established decades ago. Still, no previous PM has played Robin Hood to 3rd World nations like our current prime minister.

To add perspective, our foreign aid budget is more than the Liberals spend on departments of health, the environment and the Canada Food Inspection Agency combined.

According to Canadian Taxpayers Federation, foreign aid also costs more than the cumulative budgets of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the Canada Border Services Agency. The bulk of the aid budget goes to the Canadian International Development Agency (CIDA)– which has been folded into the Foreign Affairs and International Trade department.

All the while, there has been a growing consensus that although foreign aid is well intentioned, it has had little to no impact on the countries it seeks to help.

Why would this infrastructure remain in place if the billions are entirely ineffective? Is this not the odd-ball situation of the century?

According to Special Inspector-General John Sopko, “billions of dollars in western foreign aid to Afghanistan, including from Canada, has been lost to widespread waste, lax oversight, and corruption. Nobody is really held accountable for wasting the money,” 

Incredibly, unlike the United States, Canada does not independently audit the money it puts into trust funds for international aid.

Why have these circumstances remained static for decades? The answer is one which also applies to Canada’s Multicultural infrastructure– because it employs thousands of people. An entire industry of civil servants and bureaucrats are receiving steady paychecks based on the maintenance of this structure.

The result is big government of the variety that the socialist-infused Liberal Party enjoy. To dissolve the status quo is to wreak havoc upon the lives of government and non-profit organization employees.

Therefore, it remains. Another reason can be found in what CAP call “globalist optics.” This is the area from which PM Justin Trudeau has accumulated his greatest success as a political leader.

Another question nags at the heart: why has Canadian media for decades hidden away the reality of the wasted billions? Just think of the positive impact these funds would have had upon the Canadian economy.

READ MORE: $800 Million In Foreign Aid To Jordan Funneled Into Luxury Real Estate

The Hidden World Of Wasted Billions In Canadian Foreign Aid

 

Canadians could save hundreds of billions of their tax dollars being blown by the Marxist globalists in Ottawa every year if we could get rid of foreign aid, multiculturalism/diversity programs/DEI/bilingualism and bringing in millions of 3rd world immigrants and refugees into Canada every year that need to be given our tax dollars to help support them while they are here. Cut the bureaucracy in half for starters would save billions of tax dollars. The savings to our medical and social services would be massive. All Canada needs is for our politicians find the will to do something about all those things i mentioned above. But under lieberalism, it ain't ever going to happen, pardner. Lieberals just love to blow taxpayers tax dollars. 😒

[Army Guy]

59 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Why would me being a fisherman in NB make any difference to how wealth is calculated for a nation?  
 

10 million Canadians rely on food banks?  I call BS.  
 

Does the existence of tent cities mean we’re not one of the 30 richest nations on the planet?

 

You don’t sound like the type to want to increase government spending.  
 

How do we compare to the rest of the G7?  
 

What country do you think is the wealthiest in the world?

Because most fishermen are living off the government pogey on the off season....

The source was given to you already, sorry big guy i'm sure you know how to use goggle right...

well lets see, tent cities, one out every 4 Canadians use the food bank, most young Canadians can not afford a home....i does not mean we are doing well enough to be sending our money to other countries....

I don't want to increase government spending but tell me you don't think we can use this money here at home, like to hire doctors other medical professionals, thats just one place we could put it there are dozens of others...You talk like we are walking around with money falling out of our pockets....

I've been to some very wealthy countries, and they don't have the issues we have take a look at UAE, Qatar go to Dubai and tell me there is not more money than you thought possible, lambos and fancy sports cars are like toyota here....there every where....there government has done something with their money, shit we are still talking about high speed rail....Our GDP may indicate we are well off but rich, we are not even close...

[Legato]

3 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

We can assume you’re correct, and are not the dishonest interlocutor that your responses indicate.  We’re the 30th wealthiest country on the planet.  

Where do you think the line is for wealth before a country should get foreign aid?  
 

If the wealth were distributed better in Canada, do you think we are wealthy enough that we could get rid of food banks?  In other words, is there enough money in Canada to feed our poorest citizens?

I'm not a dishonest man in the middle.

Why do you want draw lines?

Wealth distribution should be amongst your own citizens and not to other countries so one can look good to the UN.

[blackbird]

On 5/4/2025 at 7:54 PM, herbie said:

Hopefully he is not so beggarly and small that he thinks cutting foreign aid is an honourable thing.
Might reduce it a bit to please the untermenschen that think they'll gain something doing that.

Are you a committed commie?  Do you think it is fine for liberals to rob Canadians and give six or seven billion dollars to the U.N, organizations? Most of it is not even being properly accounted for as to how it's spent.  We have many needs in Canada that should come first and nobody consented to their money being given away like that.

Edited Tuesday at 02:42 PM by blackbird

[blackbird]

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To add perspective, our foreign aid budget is more than the Liberals spend on departments of health, the environment and the Canada Food Inspection Agency combined.

According to Canadian Taxpayers Federation, foreign aid also costs more than the cumulative budgets of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the Canada Border Services Agency. The bulk of the aid budget goes to the Canadian International Development Agency (CIDA)– which has been folded into the Foreign Affairs and International Trade department."

No wonder the orange man thinks Trudeau and Canada is some kind of globalist commie gang right on their border.  They worried about Cuba back in the 1960s but never dreamed a vast country like Canada on their vast northern border would become a Marxist U.N. globalist pawn.

I just think the Liberals, NDP, and left are giving away Canada's wealth to other countries.  Canadians are in need in many ways.  Canadians should come first.  Not the liberal left agenda to suck up to the U.N., WEF, and Vatican.  But we know most of the liberals are puppets of the Marxist U.N.  We are being robbed blind.

[TreeBeard]

16 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Because most fishermen are living off the government pogey on the off season....

How would a fisherman living off pogey have an effect on how we determine whether Canada is a wealthy nation?

16 hours ago, Army Guy said:

one out every 4 Canadians use the food bank

You’re spreading lies.  10 million Canadians don’t use the food bank.  If you keep repeating a lie, I won’t bother reading your post any further.  

[TreeBeard]

14 hours ago, Legato said:

Wealth distribution should be amongst your own citizens and not to other countries so one can look good to the UN.

If you are opposed to any foreign aid out of principle, why not state that upfront?   Why pretend like Canada is a poor nation who can’t afford to help abroad?  
 

Most normal Canadians would disagree with that sentiment. 

[blackbird]

7 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Most normal Canadians would disagree with that sentiment. 

Most normal Canadians would oppose if asked by the Liberals to give a thousand dollars to the Liberal government to spread around the world.  Charity is an individual thing, not a government mandated scheme where the money is taken by force from the people and doled out in the billions of dollars and no accounting of how it is used.  People donate to various charities to help the poor.  That is voluntary giving, not government mandated.  They do not willingly give to the Marxist U.N. to spread around in an unknown fashion.

Edited Tuesday at 04:30 PM by blackbird

[TreeBeard]

27 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Most normal Canadians would oppose if asked by the Liberals to give a thousand dollars to the Liberal government to spread around the world.  Charity is an individual thing, not a government mandated scheme where the money is taken by force from the people and doled out in the billions of dollars and no accounting of how it is used.  People donate to various charities to help the poor.  That is voluntary giving, not government mandated.  They do not willingly give to the Marxist U.N. to spread around in an unknown fashion.

Both exist. Private charities obviously are not enough.  Plus, Canada has an interest in providing aid.  Foreign aid may mean less refugees in the long term, which you should like.   Also, a stable situation in poor countries is good for us as well.   Preventing deadly diseases in foreign countries prevents their spread to Canada. 

Plus, I want my government to not let people starve to death or die from preventable diseases.  

[Michael Hardner]

3 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Both exist. Private charities obviously are not enough.  Plus, Canada has an interest in providing aid.  Foreign aid may mean less refugees in the long term, which you should like.   Also, a stable situation in poor countries is good for us as well.   Preventing deadly diseases in foreign countries prevents their spread to Canada. 

Plus, I want my government to not let people starve to death or die from preventable diseases.  

I read the op again, when I remembered that there is a fallacy about foreign aid. Sure enough it's there in the op, that dollars are shipped out of the country. As we saw with usaid, it's actually goods that are shipped, and the dollars go to domestic suppliers such as Farmers, manufacturers and so on. 

 

So that's something we need to State up front

[Legato]

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

If you are opposed to any foreign aid out of principle, why not state that upfront?   Why pretend like Canada is a poor nation who can’t afford to help abroad?  
 

Most normal Canadians would disagree with that sentiment. 

Wealth distribution should be amongst your own citizens and not to other countries so one can look good to the UN.

Said any normal Canadian.

[TreeBeard]

4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I read the op again

The OP (article) also says the $6.3B spent on foreign aid is more than the department of health, which is a blatant lie.  Also, we don’t have a department of health.  We have Health Canada.   The quality of the cite from @blackbird is very suspect.  

Health Canada’s budget is around $13.7B.   I do math frequently, so I know that 13.7 > 6.3.

https://canadaspends.com/en/spending/health-canada

1 minute ago, Legato said:

Wealth distribution should be amongst your own citizens and not to other countries so one can look good to the UN.

Said any normal Canadian.

Do you think any foreign aid benefits Canada in some way?

[Legato]

9 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

The OP (article) also says the $6.3B spent on foreign aid is more than the department of health, which is a blatant lie.  Also, we don’t have a department of health.  We have Health Canada.   The quality of the cite from @blackbird is very suspect.  

Health Canada’s budget is around $13.7B.   I do math frequently, so I know that 13.7 > 6.3.

https://canadaspends.com/en/spending/health-canada

Do you think any foreign aid benefits Canada in some way?

You mean the $11 billion spent on overseas gender studies.

That's some weird cockamamy benefit.

[Michael Hardner]

35 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

The OP (article) also says the $6.3B spent on foreign aid is more than the department of health, which is a blatant lie.  Also, we don’t have a department of health.  We have Health Canada.   The quality of the cite from @blackbird is very suspect.  

Health Canada’s budget is around $13.7B.   I do math frequently, so I know that 13.7 > 6.3.

https://canadaspends.com/en/spending/health-canada

Do you think any foreign aid benefits Canada in some way?

Yeah, I don't know them very well as I have them on IGNORE.

See if you can get an acknowledgement of the error from them on that.

22 minutes ago, Legato said:

You mean the $11 billion spent on overseas gender studies.

That's some weird cockamamy benefit.

What is the breakdown on that though ?

I don't trust budget summary news from either side, personally.

[herbie]

4 hours ago, blackbird said:

Are you a committed commie?

Are you a cheapskate goddam fascist?
Neither Harper or Mulroney carried on with this snivelling about giving foreign aid. You live in one of the wealthiest nations on earth and pretend otherwise, call yourself a Christian and are opposed to giving foreign aid?

Shame!

If you even know what that is.

[TreeBeard]

1 hour ago, Legato said:

You mean the $11 billion spent on overseas gender studies.

You think Canada spends $11B on gender studies abroad?  The figure quoted by @blackbird is that Canada spends $6.3B on foreign aid total.  

So you may want to re-check your number.  
 

But do you think any foreign aid program at all benefits Canada?

[Legato]

44 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

You think Canada spends $11B on gender studies abroad?  The figure quoted by @blackbird is that Canada spends $6.3B on foreign aid total.  

So you may want to re-check your number.  
 

But do you think any foreign aid program at all benefits Canada?

https://winnipegsun.com/news/national/revealed-trudeau-spent-11000000000-on-overseas-gender-programs-during-tenure

and uncle Tom Cobley and all.

[TreeBeard]

17 minutes ago, Legato said:

https://winnipegsun.com/news/national/revealed-trudeau-spent-11000000000-on-overseas-gender-programs-during-tenure

Over 10 years.  
 

“…focusing on projects directly targeting gender equality and women’s empowerment…”

So you don’t want Canada to promote the equality of women in Muslim countries?   I think that would be money well spent.   When women are treated equally poverty goes down, fewer women have unwanted pregnancies (abortions).

Why wouldn’t you want that?  Even most conservatives would say they want women to be equal.  I guess you’re a different sort….

Edited Tuesday at 08:20 PM by TreeBeard

[Legato]

1 minute ago, TreeBeard said:

Over 10 years.  
 

“…focusing on projects directly targeting gender equality and women’s empowerment…”

So you don’t want Canada to promote the equality of women in Muslim countries?   I think that would be money well spent.   When women are treated equally poverty goes down, fewer women have unwanted pregnancies (abortions).

Why wouldn’t you want that?

 

Where did the money go? Show us the paper trial.

What are the results from the spending?

Was there any beneficial effect for Muslim women, I think not.

Wouldn't that money be better spent if it benefited Canadians?

Seems like you prefer the government spend our tax dollars on anything but Canadians. 

 

 

[blackbird]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

Are you a cheapskate goddam fascist?
Neither Harper or Mulroney carried on with this snivelling about giving foreign aid. You live in one of the wealthiest nations on earth and pretend otherwise, call yourself a Christian and are opposed to giving foreign aid?

Shame!

If you even know what that is.

The only reason you don't care about Canada wasting billions of dollars of taxpayer money in foreign aid is you don't give a hoot about the people struggling in Canada to make ends meet, that go to food banks, can't afford a home, and live in tent cities, out of control crime, etc.  You don't even know where the money goes and don't care.  You believe Christianity means Communist global wealth redistribution, which is as far from Christianity or what the Bible teaches as you can get.  When are you going to abandon Romanist popery and become a Christian? 

Edited Tuesday at 09:04 PM by blackbird

[CdnFox]

38 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Over 10 years.  
 

“…focusing on projects directly targeting gender equality and women’s empowerment…”

So you don’t want Canada to promote the equality of women in Muslim countries?   I think that would be money well spent.   When women are treated equally poverty goes down, fewer women have unwanted pregnancies (abortions).

Why wouldn’t you want that?  Even most conservatives would say they want women to be equal.  I guess you’re a different sort….

 

24 minutes ago, Legato said:

 

Where did the money go? Show us the paper trial.

What are the results from the spending?

Was there any beneficial effect for Muslim women, I think not.

Wouldn't that money be better spent if it benefited Canadians?

Seems like you prefer the government spend our tax dollars on anything but Canadians. 

 

 

But remember you are a terrible person for asking for any of that. If you don't agree to just blindly send money to foreign countries in the name of women then you must be a misogynist.

I mean that's what he's saying. That's the liberal mentality. Give free money to other people blindly or you're a bad person

[TreeBeard]

31 minutes ago, Legato said:

What are the results from the spending?

You need me to look that up for you?  You don’t think we should spend any money on foreign aid, including on trying to stop female genital mutilation, so why would it matter to you what the results were?  

Edited Tuesday at 09:06 PM by TreeBeard