ConFux, WestConMan, BlackTurd

[ExFlyer]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Here is a collection of childish posts:

https://repolitics.com/forums/profile/117613-treebeard/

Easy to dish it out but when the crap falls down on you and you are the loser ....it sucks eh???

Just to reiterate for you, the Liberals are forming the next government and the conservatives lost. Not only that, Polievere lost his very own seat after 20 years of sucking on the government teat LOL

[CdnFox]

16 minutes ago, suds said:

That just about sums up everything in a nutshell. Instead of focusing on Trudeau, Conservatives should have spent their energy focusing on the Liberal party. Otherwise, when Trudeau's replaced.... problem disappears.

Absolutely. And instead of focusing on the carbon tax they should have focused on their fiscal failings more broadly.

[ExFlyer]

22 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I got to wait. But I'm an adult so I can do that. It's not like when you're waiting for Christmas morning and can't cope  

Yeah, Christmas Morning is tough for my kids and Grandkids.

If that was supposed to be some sort of insult......major FAIL LOL

 

Look, politics are over...at least till next election. Truce??

Edited Tuesday at 09:35 PM by ExFlyer

[CdnFox]

Just now, ExFlyer said:

Yeah, Christmas Morning is tough for my kids and Grandkids.

 

I'm sure there's many difficulties for your imaginary family   

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If that was supposed to be some sort of insult......major FAIL LOL

HAHAAHA  well it was just a simple jest ... till THAT reply   Now it's hilarious  

 

did this entire thread is a testament to your childish nature.

[ExFlyer]

11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I'm sure there's many difficulties for your imaginary family   

HAHAAHA  well it was just a simple jest ... till THAT reply   Now it's hilarious  

 

did this entire thread is a testament to your childish nature.

Ok screw it then.

I was thinking you would be reasonable but I see it is too late for you.

When you resort to calling out my kids and grandkids... that is a step too far, even for you.

Edited Tuesday at 09:47 PM by ExFlyer

[Moonbox]

4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. If you value dialogue you should engage in it at the highest levels.

The tone and temperament of a discussion is set by its floor, not by its ceiling.  I appreciate what you're trying to say, but nuanced and fact-based discussion don't survive long after the baboon starts flinging poo.  

17 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

2. I didn't feel good about leagues of disgruntled people, who have been failed by our economy, not getting their wish, no.  That's regardless about how I felt about their candidate.  I have friends who are hardcore CPC too.

Again, not who we're talking about. 

As for the ignore feature, it only works on people with lives/hobbies/friends that don't spend all day polluting every thread on the board with their rageposting.  😑

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Ok screw it then.

You're family??!?!  er.....  well maybe don't?

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I was thinking you would be reasonable but I see it is too late for you.

You said something stupid and got laughed at and once again you wanted to be my fault    He can't keep blaming me for your stupidity

 

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When you resort to calling out my kids and grandkids... that is a step too far, even for you.

Dude I don't believe you have any. And after you spending two weeks posting ass p*** you don't get to say what's over the line and what isn't. You started this thread, the whole thread was designed to mock and make fun of people and now that you got mocked and made fun of you're having a hissy fit and a mental breakdown.

Not to mention the fact it was you that brought up your alleged kids not me

I hope to hell I'm writing you don't have kids, I can't imagine anyone having to live with that sort of embarrassment as being related to you

Edited Tuesday at 10:02 PM by CdnFox

[CdnFox]

10 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

The tone and temperament of a discussion is set by its floor, not by its ceiling.  I appreciate what you're trying to say, but nuanced and fact-based discussion don't survive long after the baboon starts flinging poo.  

Again, not who we're talking about. 

As for the ignore feature, it only works on people with lives/hobbies/friends that don't spend all day polluting every thread on the board with their rageposting.  😑

Awww muffin  

How's the math lessons?

You're the one that chases me around the form not the other way around as a rule  

[ExFlyer]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You're family??!?!  er.....  well maybe don't?

You said something stupid and got laughed at and once again you wanted to be my fault    He can't keep blaming me for your stupidity

 

Dude I don't believe you have any. And after you spending two weeks posting ass p*** you don't get to say what's over the line and what isn't. You started this thread, the whole thread was designed to mock and make fun of people and now that you got mocked and made fun of you're having a hissy fit and a mental breakdown.

Not to mention the fact it was you that brought up your alleged kids not me

I hope to hell I'm writing you don't have kids, I can't imagine anyone having to live with that sort of embarrassment as being related to you

Yup...Ignore

Wallow in your pity LOSER.

[taxme]

10 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

HA HA HA

LOSERS....

Even PP Lost his seat 

HA HA HA

It is what it is...Canadians have spoken. You don't like it I am sure but...

 

Sure i lost. It only means that now i will help join you in the destruction of Canada. Why? Because there is no more Canada left anymore. Nobody here even knows what Canada is all about anymore. Canada has been dying for the past ten years under dictator Turdeau, and now under Corney, it will soon be dead. I can only hope that Alberta will separate from the rest of Chanuckistan very soon. That then should start the ball rolling and then get Saskatchewan and Quebec to be next. 

HA-HA-HA. LOL. 

[Michael Hardner]

37 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

 

Again, not who we're talking about. 

PS.  Yes, I am including those who behave poorly.

 

Again, cheers.  Keep on.

 

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Yup...Ignore

Wallow in your pity LOSER.

LOL well it makes a nice change from  your pages of melt down  

[Moonbox]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

The first challenge is that Canadians weren't that upset with the liberals, they were upset with Justin Trudeau. Unfortunately and this was a genuine mistake that he made poilievre focused all of his energies on blaming Justin and not the liberals. All of people's frustrations were focused on the leader and not the party which is of course crazy. The leader does not operate in a vacuum. But it is what happened, that's what Poilievre did.

 

Canadians were plenty upset with the Liberals.  Absent of any consideration of leadership, the Liberals were polling under 30%.  Add Poilievre and Carney to the mix, and well you saw what happened.  

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Kearney had the good fortune to become Prime Minister without a vote. With a little help from the media and having the ability to actually address trump himself he wound up being able to create an impression that he was the best choice to deal with trump. The incumbent almost always enjoys that kind of a luxury in a crisis.

If you want to convince yourself that Carney's brief incumbency and deh media had more to do with Poilievre's defeat than his -20% net favorability and the easy comparisons to Trump that his rhetoric invited, go for it, I guess.  🤷‍♂️

[Army Guy]

22 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

 

Canadians were plenty upset with the Liberals.  Absent of any consideration of leadership, the Liberals were polling under 30%.  Add Poilievre and Carney to the mix, and well you saw what happened.  

If you want to convince yourself that Carney's brief incumbency and deh media had more to do with Poilievre's defeat than his -20% net favorability and the easy comparisons to Trump that his rhetoric invited, go for it, I guess.  🤷‍♂️

Couldn't have been that upset, they did almost win a majority, i think most Canadians have really short memory spans....I mean same party, same MP's, and then Carney as an advisor....and somehow Justin wore that entire failure....i mean come on some of these guys have to step up and own some of that failure....

I'd also say the media, polling companies, trump, and Carneys staff, the short election timings also had a role all had a role in there somewhere, of influencing events that lead to the destruction of PP campaign... minor as they may be they still played a role....PP campaign manager, even PP himself did most of the destruction. hopeful he sees that and decides to retire and let someone else take the reins....

 

[Nefarious Banana]

Pierre Poilievre seemed to have a one dimensionality in most of his exchanges with the Liberals . . . endless slogans, and a personal 'harshness' in his manner.  This didn't change the fact that he would be a better policy maker than Trudeau (who had no policy other than to make himself look good) but, there was that harshness that turned many off.  This was so very apparent in the taped interview where Pierre Poilievre eats his apple while a journalist tries to bait and trap him.  Very arrogant, very disrespectful to any viewer of any stripe.  Not the 'stuff' leaders are made of.  I did hope the Conservatives would win this election . . .

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Moonbox said:

 

Canadians were plenty upset with the Liberals.  Absent of any consideration of leadership, the Liberals were polling under 30%.  Add Poilievre and Carney to the mix, and well you saw what happened.  

 

That's not how it works. When the leaders switched the pole changed overnight. Probably ever had been there the whole time so he's not a variable. 

It's painfully obvious that the party was not in any way shape or form being held accountable into association from justin. Justin left, the party bounced back.

 

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If you want to convince yourself that Carney's brief incumbency and deh media had more to do with Poilievre's defeat than his -20% net favorability and the easy comparisons to Trump that his rhetoric invited, go for it, I guess.  🤷‍♂️

If you want to  pretend that the liberals under Justin Trudeau were pulling exactly the same as the liberals under Carney then You probably need to look at professional help.

It is painfully obvious that people weren't that upset with the liberals. They blamed Trudeau. They believed carney when he said that Trudeau is gone and the problems of the liberals were gone And that his liberals would be different. 

His childish to pretend that it didn't happen that way. And it's childish to pretend that trump wasn't a thing.

You take trump out of the equation and carney would have lost the election. You take carney out of the equation and leave Justin Trudeau in place and it would have been one of the greatest landslides in Canadian political history

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Pierre Poilievre seemed to have a one dimensionality in most of his exchanges with the Liberals . . . endless slogans, and a personal 'harshness' in his manner.  This didn't change the fact that he would be a better policy maker than Trudeau (who had no policy other than to make himself look good) but, there was that harshness that turned many off.  This was so very apparent in the taped interview where Pierre Poilievre eats his apple while a journalist tries to bait and trap him.  Very arrogant, very disrespectful to any viewer of any stripe.  Not the 'stuff' leaders are made of.  I did hope the Conservatives would win this election . . .

There's a lot of people that really like that harshness and frankly it was a welcome change after the nervous answers we saw with sheer and erin. 

The endless slogan earring was a major problem though.

You can get away with looking arrogant once in awhile. Trudeau certainly did, constantly. But the problem is he never took the opportunities to look really Prime ministerial.

The Apple interview actually boosted his popularity scores as best prime minister quite a bit and got a lot of play. But what you didn't see is that statesman like opportunities where he stood up and looked like a statesman conducting the business of the country. He fell very short there and that was a problem

[herbie]

Like it or not, believe it or not most people thought the threat to our county superceded their everyday grievances and most of them decided Carney was the best choice. Borne out by the migration of votes from the NDP and BQ.

Crying for change as loud as you can isn't going to work if it's not decidedly change for the better. And the center and the left said Carney was enough change for them.

Live with it. Time to cooperate and not just complain.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, herbie said:

Like it or not, believe it or not most people thought the threat to our county superceded their everyday grievances and most of them decided Carney was the best choice. Borne out by the migration of votes from the NDP and BQ.

Crying for change as loud as you can isn't going to work if it's not decidedly change for the better. And the center and the left said Carney was enough change for them.

Live with it. Time to cooperate and not just complain.

Herbie we all know that if it had gone the other way you would be demanding Revolution and assassination of PoilievreS as soon as possible

Here's the thing sparky. Cooperation is a two-way street. The CPC got almost as many votes as Kearney. So will you be demanding that the liberals start to cooperate with the CPC and do things like build Pipelines and cut expenditures and so on? Or is your cooperation only one way?

[Moonbox]

4 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Couldn't have been that upset, they did almost win a majority, i think most Canadians have really short memory spans....I mean same party, same MP's, and then Carney as an advisor....and somehow Justin wore that entire failure....i mean come on some of these guys have to step up and own some of that failure....

Nobody forgot, it's just that PP still managed to make himself look like the worse option. 

4 hours ago, Army Guy said:

I'd also say the media, polling companies, trump, and Carneys staff, the short election timings also had a role all had a role in there somewhere, of influencing events that lead to the destruction of PP campaign... minor as they may be they still played a role....PP campaign manager, even PP himself did most of the destruction. hopeful he sees that and decides to retire and let someone else take the reins....

I agree.

This is Poilievre's campaign manager - hardcore MAGA and culture-war donkey:

When you spend 3 years calling people names, shouting three word slogans, bullshitting, peddling conspiracy theories about globalist woke-radical-left agendas etc and doing basically everything you can to invite comparisons to Trump, that's what you're going to get.  

Nobody anticipated how much of a mess Trump would make, but the mess was assured.  Poilievre sowed the winds of Trumpian populism, and he reaped the whirlwind.  His caustic badgering and his circling the conspiracy vortex brought the toolbags from the PPC back into the fold, but he also united basically everyone else against him.  It wasn't a fluke.  They didn't "lend" their votes to Carney.  They rejected Poilievre, and unless he really changes, they'll do it next time too.  

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Nobody forgot, it's just that PP still managed to make himself look like the worse option. 

I agree.

This is Poilievre's campaign manager - hardcore MAGA and culture-war donkey:

When you spend 3 years calling people names, shouting three word slogans, bullshitting, peddling conspiracy theories about globalist woke-radical-left agendas etc and doing basically everything you can to invite comparisons to Trump, that's what you're going to get.  

Nobody anticipated how much of a mess Trump would make, but the mess was assured.  Poilievre sowed the winds of Trumpian populism, and he reaped the whirlwind.  His caustic badgering and his circling the conspiracy vortex brought the toolbags from the PPC back into the fold, but he also united basically everyone else against him.  It wasn't a fluke.  They didn't "lend" their votes to Carney.  They rejected Poilievre, and unless he really changes, they'll do it next time too.  

That is 100% untrue.

The people were scared of him, if he had done as badly as you say, if the problem was him then there is no universe where he would have wound up picking up almost 42% of the vote. He was only 2% behind the liberals. This was hardly a runaway success.

But like every liberal supporter out there you are desperate right now to try and convince us to get rid of Poilievre because he is the most obvious threat to the liberal party currently in existence besides the liberal party itself.

Next election the NDP voters are probably going to go back to the NDP. The block voters may very well go back to the block. And that costs the liberals about 40 seats right there

But meanwhile poilievre has been pulling it about 43% for well over a year, he got 41% and change which is well in the margin of error (How's your math lessons going?  )  And he has built the base to a huge level

You have to be 40 different kinds of stupid to pretend that this is anything but a fantastic performance.

If trump hadn't come along the conservatives would be sitting on a huge majority right now. And trump won't be here forever

[Moonbox]

33 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The people were scared of him, if he had done as badly as you say, if the problem was him then there is no universe where he would have wound up picking up almost 42% of the vote.

It's not just about how many people vote for you.  It's also about how many vote against you.  While you cope with the loss and soothe yourself with the idea that he increased the share of the popular vote, digest this along with it:

The Liberal vote was the highest it's been in 45 years.  

36 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You have to be 40 different kinds of stupid to pretend that this is anything but a fantastic performance.

You have to be 41 different kinds of stupid to pretend that losing the election is a "fantastic performance", especially when it's losing to a party that was polling around 20% months ago.  🙃

[CdnFox]

48 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

It's not just about how many people vote for you.  It's also about how many vote against you. 

Very few did. They were Within like two points of each other. Several pollsters even Nick Nanos said if the campaign had lasted one more week the conservatives would likely have won it because it was swinging in their direction

And as I said the liberal vote was mostly borrowed. That's a once in a lifetime thing because of trump and his tariffs.

But Poilievre has been pulling at this level for over a year. That's his base.

I'm sorry this is so difficult for you to understand but this is quite simple. Poilievre did exceptionally well. The liberals got exceptionally lucky. And they still got held to a minority. You cannot reasonably claim PP is unpopular when he pulled in that kind of support and has been polling at those levels for over a year,, 

He'll hopefully learn from his mistakes and do even better next time and next time chances are trump won't be an issue, and with a new NDP leader who doesn't think he's just a dish rag for the libs the ndp will win some of it's votes back 

And Carney is going to disappoint, Guaranteed.  So that'll be fun  

 

[Moonbox]

35 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Very few did.

Enough for him to lose an election to a party that was 20-25 points behind only a few months ago.  

58 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I'm sorry this is so difficult for you to understand but this is quite simple. Poilievre did exceptionally well.

It is quite simple.  Poilievre has -20% net favorability.  ~60% of the country can't stand him, and that number's remained steady for as long as he's been around.  In that context, sure, he did exceptionally well...for a loser who lost his own seat.   😆

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

He'll hopefully learn from his mistakes and do even better next time and next time chances are trump won't be an issue, and with a new NDP leader who doesn't think he's just a dish rag for the libs the ndp will win some of it's votes back 

I hope that thought comforts you in the coming years.  Hope and wish that the man who couldn't pivot from his slogans and says he rarely changes his mind, and who his party had to hide in the final week of the election has a come to Jesus moment.  Pray that the next ~4 years of Trump doesn't leave baggage.  Bet on the NDP coming back strong after losing official party status and bleeding its supporters to both the CPC and the Liberals.  It'll all work out the way you want it to  🫂.

[Army Guy]

12 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Nobody forgot, it's just that PP still managed to make himself look like the worse option. 

I agree.

This is Poilievre's campaign manager - hardcore MAGA and culture-war donkey:

When you spend 3 years calling people names, shouting three word slogans, bullshitting, peddling conspiracy theories about globalist woke-radical-left agendas etc and doing basically everything you can to invite comparisons to Trump, that's what you're going to get.  

Nobody anticipated how much of a mess Trump would make, but the mess was assured.  Poilievre sowed the winds of Trumpian populism, and he reaped the whirlwind.  His caustic badgering and his circling the conspiracy vortex brought the toolbags from the PPC back into the fold, but he also united basically everyone else against him.  It wasn't a fluke.  They didn't "lend" their votes to Carney.  They rejected Poilievre, and unless he really changes, they'll do it next time too.  

YA they did forget, as did you, somehow PP actions as you describe them, did more damage to the country than anything Justin did under Carney advisory role...it was like those years did not matter one bit....what they stuck to was the fact they disliked PP in  his role as official opposition,his aggressive tones and holding the liberals accountable somewhat, I say that as nothing they did was someone held accountable....everything on your list i could give you dozens of examples of the liberals doing the exact same thing... but you knew that and forgot to add that into your choice to just dump PP...all the while by not holding the liberals to the same standards...

I hope that liberal voters do not end up regretting their vote, and i do hope carney has success in making some much needed changes in this country....i also hope he leaves all his net zero dreams in his closet... one thing for sure is he will not unite this country, but instead divide it further, with liberal policies left over from Justins period. ie gun control, carbon taxes, C-69, etc...

Canadians do not vote with their heads ,but rather with tradition, or their hearts , rarely do they look at what is offer or the policies that make up their platform...Which PP beat carney hands down, "my Opinion" in fact they were so good he made them a lot his own...