Will Carney and the Liberals now reverse course of Canada?

[Barquentine]

On 4/29/2025 at 7:57 AM, blackbird said:

the only reason Carney was elected was because of the threats from Trump.

Again, those people afraid of Trump had the choice to vote for poilievre. Why didn't they?

[Barquentine]

2 hours ago, taxme said:

Alberta just does not get any respect from the east at all.

What a bunch of whining, complaining, spoiled babies. Wah, Wah, ... We're Albertans. We've got lots of oil. We're rich. Why does everybody hate us? Wah, wah...

[Legato]

On 4/29/2025 at 3:02 PM, TreeBeard said:

Largest profits in the history of the oil sands is happening under the Liberals. 

The oil sands industry's profitability is a complex interplay of factors, with oil prices, production volumes, and the quality and cost of production playing crucial roles. 

I wonder how much higher they would have without the Liberals.

[Legato]

15 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

Again, those people afraid of Trump had the choice to vote for poilievre. Why didn't they?

Again because Carney with the help of the media made sure that Poilievre and Trump where somehow tied at the hip.

The weak minded fell for it. 

In that sense Poilievre didn't run a good campaign.

[Barquentine]

5 minutes ago, Legato said:

the help of the media made sure that Poilievre and Trump where somehow tied at the hip.

I knew you were going to say that.

 

5 minutes ago, Legato said:

Poilievre didn't run a good campaign

Obviously.

[blackbird]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

We've got lots of oil. We're rich. Why does everybody hate us? Wah, wah...

The world is using more oil every year.  Oil is one of the richest drivers of prosperity for Canada.

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In recent years, global oil consumption has shown significant trends:

• In 2020, the world consumed approximately 88.7 million barrels of oil per day².
• In 2023, consumption reached about 100.2 million barrels per day³.
• In 2024, the global demand for crude oil was reported at 103.75 million barrels per day⁶.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Again, those people afraid of Trump had the choice to vote for poilievre. Why didn't they?

The left is driven primarily by hatred and prejudice.  As you well know and frequently exemplify 
they would RATHER be a 51 st state than support a "gasp" conservative!

 

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

I knew you were going to say that.

Yes, it is predictable he'd point out the truth. 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Legato said:

Again because Carney with the help of the media made sure that Poilievre and Trump where somehow tied at the hip.

The weak minded fell for it. 

In that sense Poilievre didn't run a good campaign.

Or more accurately the left and the media ran a great one. 

It's always very difficult to counter the lies of the media and the liberals like that. And you say nothing they keep accusing you, if you reply then the whole conversation becomes about that and you don't get to talk about anything that's important or real

100% of voters knew that trump was going to be an issue and whoever gets elected has to deal with them. And yet almost the same number of people voted conservative as liberal. It was off by a very small amount

So obviously half the people decided that poilievre would be the best choice to deal with trump. The other half went with carney.

But there's no doubt there was an insane amount of misinformation and disinformation trying to paint pee pee as being identical to trump. Some of it was really pathetic, stuff like PP wants to reduce taxes, trump produced taxes, they're the same person! Like only someone that believed exactly like trump could possibly want to reduce taxes.

Edited yesterday at 02:12 AM by CdnFox

[Legato]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

I knew you were going to say that.

 

 

Then why ask a redundant question?

[Legato]

52 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But there's no doubt there was an insane amount of misinformation and disinformation trying to paint pee pee as being identical to trump. Some of it was really pathetic, stuff like PP wants to reduce taxes, trump produced taxes, they're the same person! Like only someone that believed exactly like trumpcould possibly want to reduce taxes.

CTV always portrayed Poilievre in a negative and Carney in a positive light.

Fair and balanced?

As I said the simple minded swallowed the bait.

[CdnFox]

55 minutes ago, Legato said:

CTV always portrayed Poilievre in a negative and Carney in a positive light.

Fair and balanced?

As I said the simple minded swallowed the bait.

Yeah. 

And we still got almost the same votes as the libs, and added 25 seats   

[Legato]

11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Yeah. 

And we still got almost the same votes as the libs, and added 25 seats   

Now the Seven Ronin hold the balance of power.  lol

[betsy]

A comment below the video gave a reasonable observation:

 

CANADIANS hated TRUMP more than they love Canada.

That's the sad truth.

 

 

....and, Carney rewarded the CBC.

 

 

 

Edited 23 hours ago by betsy

[gatomontes99]

Simple question for you Canuks:

JT raised your taxes, raised the cost of living, raised the cost of housing, restricted your freedoms, did nothing to fix your oppressive medical system and you demanded he leave. That's great.

Why did you vote for his political twin?

[Nationalist]

 

Elbows Up.

ROFLMAO!

You stoopid scared little rats have been had.

Elbows Up...LOL...

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

Simple question for you Canuks:

JT raised your taxes, raised the cost of living, raised the cost of housing, restricted your freedoms, did nothing to fix your oppressive medical system and you demanded he leave. That's great.

Why did you vote for his political twin?

Because they're scared, timid little rats who wanted to hear "Elbows Up".

So in a perceived effort to oppose Trump, they went and cast votes for Trump's son-in-law's business partner.

None of the Canadian MSM dwelled upon that. By an large, they downplayed and ignored the fact. Made thin excuses.

So yesterday, Trump says he thinks the carney and he will get along fine and that Poilievre dislikes him the most.

So Canucks...go out to the shed...if you can afford one...and make sure you have your paddles handy. Because you're about to be sold up Sh1t's Creek.

Elbows Up...LOL...

Edited 19 hours ago by Nationalist

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Simple question for you Canuks:

JT raised your taxes, raised the cost of living, raised the cost of housing, restricted your freedoms, did nothing to fix your oppressive medical system and you demanded he leave. That's great.

Why did you vote for his political twin?

Because trump threatened to invade Canada and turn it into the 51st state. Before that the conservatives were set for a historic win

To be honest the left already hated America and has for years. Now you seem to be working as hard as humanly possible to make the right hate America as well

I'm not sure how this is good logic or how this benefits you in the future. Obviously trump thinks he can get a better deal out of the liberals that he could have out of the conservatives, but at the expense of ruining relations between our two countries

Did you really think that was a good idea?

[gatomontes99]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

Because trump threatened to invade Canada and turn it into the 51st state.

Oh ffs, you guys aren't stupid so that can't be the reason. Trump trolled JT and it worked. He lost his shit. But no one actually believed Canada would be invaded or become a state. If they did, they deserve JT2.

 

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Oh ffs, you guys aren't stupid so that can't be the reason

 

That is absolutely the reason, and trump made it quite clear that it's his intent to make us the 51st state and crush us financially if he didn't

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. Trump trolled JT and it worked. He lost his shit. But no one actually believed Canada would be invaded or become a state. If they did, they deserve JT2.

That's what we thought in the beginning. But perhaps you haven't been paying attention, every single one of trump's people has been in touch with Canadian politicians to publicly say this was no joke, it's his intent, and he means it, and trump had gone on air several times since Justin left and said the same thing. 

Sorry, but at that point you can't pass it off as a joke. When the official spokespeople of the government step forward and say this is not a joke it's our policy then it's not a joke anymore. Especially when combined with the terrorist attacks and out and out lies and blatant nonsense that he spouted about Canada. For example how America "Subsidizes" us which I'm sure I don't need to explain to you is completely untrue.

As a direct result canadians unitedbecause carney was the prime minister at the time even though he was never elected the left coalesced around him.

It is 100% true to say that the left wing one because of trump. Not something the right is going to forget any time in the immediate future when it comes to Americans. Like I said most Canadians already thought Americans were kind of scummy. The right on the other hand did not. But we're starting to lean that way.

I don't know why you think it would be okay to take a good friend who's been an ally of yours for hundreds of years it is best the best trading partner you could possibly have hope for and turn them against you. But that is what trump is doing and I don't imagine this will go away quickly even after trump is gone. You should be speaking up and yelling at your politicians to get a handle on trump but obviously you didn't

 

[gatomontes99]

12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

That is absolutely the reason, and trump made it quite clear that it's his intent to make us the 51st state and crush us financially if he didn't

He's not. It's his negotiating tactic.

1. Make an outrageous, shocking first offer

2. Get the other side to compromise

3. Take what you can.

Sometimes his outrageous first claim is an honest offer. But this clearly wasn't. Sending everyone else out to back the claim was just negotiations.

The first problem he has is that neither the left or the right would go along with it. The left won't do it because Trump and the right won't do it because yall keep voting for JT clones. He can't do it alone.

You guys really can't be so stupid that if Trump challenged you to a race that you'd shoot yourself in the foot just to stop the race? Because that's what you did here.

 

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

He's not. It's his negotiating tactic.

 

When the official Representatives I'm a country come to your country and tell your official Representatives and this is after Trudeau is gone, that this is their official policy, that's going to be taken seriously. 

You can't say that and then say 'just kidding' after.  It's a threat.

And trump is in the papers right now bragging about how he made the liberals win. 

You get that this has permanently damaged relations with canada right?  The effects are already being felt strongly by your farmers and many of your states. 

Again, explain to me how turning  your biggest ally in the world against you is good for the USA in the long run?

[gatomontes99]

46 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

When the official Representatives I'm a country come to your country and tell your official Representatives and this is after Trudeau is gone, that this is their official policy, that's going to be taken seriously. 

Do you have a link to that? I searched for it and can't find it.

[-TSS-]

The rest of the world has analysed the Canadian election-result by saying that Trump couldn't keep his mouth shut but surely there must be something deeper than that which caused the Conservatives to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Did he make some silly promises or something, which turned people off?

[TreeBeard]

6 minutes ago, -TSS- said:

The rest of the world has analysed the Canadian election-result by saying that Trump couldn't keep his mouth shut but surely there must be something deeper than that which caused the Conservatives to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Did he make some silly promises or something, which turned people off?

Trudeau was unpopular.  Unfortunately for the Conservatives, so is Poilievre.  
 

Once there was a reasonable alternative to Trudeau that wasn’t Poilievre (Carney), a significant block of voters chose Carney. 
 

Trump was also a factor.  Canadians didn’t trust Poilievre could or would stand up for Canada against Trump.  

[CdnFox]

17 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Do you have a link to that? I searched for it and can't find it.

Here's some reading, it's by no mean comprehensive. This came up every time one of our people met with trump's people. And even on our election day he was out there saying it

Here is his officials telling our premiers that trump is serious:

Premiers were told to take threats of annexation seriously, says Furey | CBC News

There were plenty more examples, and look at what he's done and said. He doesn't even beleive our borders are real and has threatened to crush us economically to force us to join. 

It's not a joke at this point. 

On Canada’s Election Day, Trump Repeats ’51st State’ Threat - The New York Times

Trump's Canada 51st state plan 'is not a joke', says Foreign Minister

How Trump’s ‘51st State’ Canada Talk Came to Be Seen as Deadly Serious - The New York Times

 

Everyone thought this was a joke when it started. But nobody's taking it as a joke anymore. And Canadians have started selling off American real estate holdings and They avoid buying American food and products wherever possible. Many American companies and groups such as farmers have commented that this is already hurt them badly

For about half the states in America Canada is the number one customer in consumer of their goods. And we are now moving away from that as fast as we can and the hatred that has been generated by trump pretending that we're not a country and threatening seriously to take us over is substantial

I don't understand why you're allowing this to happen and not speaking up to your politicians. Literally billions of dollars of tourist trips to the united states that happen every year have been canceled. Canada has talked about joining the European Union rather than deal with America.

You know that we're the number one source of your strategic materials? 50% of all nickel in American military hardware (and there is a hell of a lot of it because most of the hardware requires it) comes from Canada

10 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Trudeau was unpopular.  Unfortunately for the Conservatives, so is Poilievre.  
 

Once there was a reasonable alternative to Trudeau that wasn’t Poilievre (Carney), a significant block of voters chose Carney. 
 

Trump was also a factor.  Canadians didn’t trust Poilievre could or would stand up for Canada against Trump.  

Trump was the only Factor. And I'll point out that almost the same number of Canadians thought that pierre was a better choice as carney

However for those on the left such as yourself the hatred and bigotry towards the conservatives would not have allowed them to even consider that choice