It's a scientific fact that humans come in 2 varieties, but ONLY for those IGNORANT of ALL the biological variations.

Legato · Friday at 01:01 AM

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

Do you know that you're a HORRIBLE debater.

You need to post full sentences if you want to have ANY HOPE of CONVINCING ANYONE.

But I think the reason you don't is because YOU CANNOT.

Go.

herbie · Friday at 01:09 AM

52 minutes ago, User said:

No one cares if you or anyone else wants to pretend you are something you are not.

And no one gives a shit you obsess and lose sleep over men in skirts reading children's books. Quit pretending the rest of us need to end them thru political means over your neuroses.
You can't even see the sick, poor or addicted as victims so quit pretending you are one.

Legato · Friday at 01:11 AM

1 minute ago, herbie said:

And no one gives a shit you obsess and lose sleep over men in skirts reading children's books. Quit pretending the rest of us need to end them thru political means over your neuroses.
You can't even see the sick, poor or addicted as victims so quit pretending you are one.

User · Friday at 01:29 AM

18 minutes ago, herbie said:

And no one gives a shit you obsess and lose sleep over men in skirts reading children's books. Quit pretending the rest of us need to end them thru political means over your neuroses.
You can't even see the sick, poor or addicted as victims so quit pretending you are one.

Once again you dishonestly frame things... what we care about is grown ass men dressing like cheap whores getting their jollies and validation off a bunch of kids. Especially when you perverts want to force it on kids in public schools.

Go read all the books you want at home.

User · Friday at 01:33 AM

31 minutes ago, Legato said:

Go.

It is comical watching Robo pretend like he is a good debater when he runs and hides from me and routinely posts complete garbage and when called out runs away from that too.

Scott75 · Friday at 01:36 AM

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

8 hours ago, Scott75 said:

I can agree with all of that, but from what I've read, most people are either biologically male or biologically female.

So what? Are you saying that justifies the persecution of outliers?

No, just that in most cases, people can say that their sex is either male or female.

8 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Mostly, yes. No one has claimed otherwise. But those exceptions mean that biological sex is not binary.

I had this conversation with some of the weirdos on this forum and they insisted that, despite the many exceptions, biological sex was still binary.

It was bizarre.

Ah ok, yes, that's a good point.

eyeball · Friday at 03:49 AM

3 hours ago, User said:

What do you base claiming 40% or any large amount of Canadians who are conservative are so hostile towards folks who are born with genetic disorders like these?

From listening to conservatives around here. I figure a good solid third to half of Poilievre's most solid supporters are hard boiled enough to count as pure MAGA chuds. About half the rest of conservatives support whoever supports them so...

Back of the napkin calculation for sure but plenty close enough.

3 hours ago, User said:

Your comment only shows the dishonesty of this entire thread. You guys are dishonestly conflating genetic disorders with dudes who think they are women or have some fetish in claiming to be a woman.

Some thing's do need to be said but it probably is mostly a troll because you people always feel icky about this stuff. I think it's mostly a fad myself and that the more overt activism around the issue has as much to do with throwing right wing grievances back in your stupid faces as anything and boy o boy you guys just never fail to fall for it.

AFAIC virtually everything that trans folks require from society is contained in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. It has virtually everything the government needs to protect people from discrimination. I suppose it stands to reason that's why so many Canadian conservatives feel icky about the Charter too.

WestCanMan · Friday at 06:32 AM

13 hours ago, robosmith said:

And ^this does not even account for the variations caused by a brain that is NOT SYNCHRONIZED with the body.

Stop trying to make the debate into something that it isn't, just so that you can be partly right you worthless little scumbag.

This isn't about whether or not there are males, females, plus people with birth defects, genetic deformities and whatnot. And it's not about what people with deformities can/can't/should/shouldn't do. Those people have a hard road and actually need help.

It's about whether or not teachers and guidance counsellors should be telling healthy boys and girls that they can choose to become the opposite sex, when all they can do is mutilate their bodies and end up permanently trapped between sexes, and unable to ever procreate.

Leftards are even trying to convince other adults that "men can get pregnant", and they simply cannot.

If they think that they can get away with saying that BS to adults, what are they telling kids? You don't effing know, do you...

Not only that, why are they trying to prevent the parents from being part of the conversation with the little kids?

Parents are the decision-makers for their children, period. Not teachers. Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.

Nationalist · Friday at 11:06 AM

@robosmith - So have you and your Libbie buddies eaten enough crow over this stupid idea of yours?

People with birth defects are to be pitied and accommodated. That sympathy and those accommodations do not get extended to tranies grooming children, nor to failed athletes who have found they can win if they claim to be girls.

Here...have some salt.

Edited Friday at 11:08 AM by Nationalist

Michael Hardner · Friday at 12:09 PM

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

when all they can do is mutilate their bodies and end up permanently trapped between sexes, and unable to ever procreate.

They can also wear makeup and dresses, and call themselves by a girl's name though right?

robosmith · Friday at 03:41 PM

14 hours ago, Legato said:

You're a FOOL if you believe there are not women with the physical advantages of the trans woman in that pic.

AKA, you are entirely disingenuous.

robosmith · Friday at 03:43 PM

14 hours ago, Scott75 said:

No, just that in most cases, people can say that their sex is either male or female.

Again: SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

14 hours ago, Scott75 said:

Ah ok, yes, that's a good point.

robosmith · Friday at 03:48 PM

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

@robosmith - So have you and your Libbie buddies eaten enough crow over this stupid idea of yours?

Have you finally admitted sex is NOT BINARY?

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

People with birth defects are to be pitied and accommodated. That sympathy and those accommodations do not get extended to tranies grooming children, nor to failed athletes who have found they can win if they claim to be girls.

Here...have some salt.

Your fantasies are amusing.

User · Friday at 03:58 PM

12 hours ago, eyeball said:

From listening to conservatives around here. I figure a good solid third to half of Poilievre's most solid supporters are hard boiled enough to count as pure MAGA chuds. About half the rest of conservatives support whoever supports them so...

Back of the napkin calculation for sure but plenty close enough.

Again, you are conflating people with genetic disorders with the whole trans madness.

You don't see people on here up in arms making an issue out of the few folks who suffer from genetic disorders.

12 hours ago, eyeball said:

AFAIC virtually everything that trans folks require from society is contained in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. It has virtually everything the government needs to protect people from discrimination. I suppose it stands to reason that's why so many Canadian conservatives feel icky about the Charter too.

I am not familiar with your charter or the nuances in it... but again, to the point here, if it is being used to force the trans madness onto children, in schools, into women's locker rooms, into their sports... then yeah, no kidding, folks are going to have issues with this.

WestCanMan · Friday at 03:59 PM

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

They can also wear makeup and dresses, and call themselves by a girl's name though right?

Kids can do what they want to. I'm just not down with private conversations between children and guidance counsellors about matters of gender.

I think that it's really important that there's public trust in guidance counsellors in general because, among other things, kids who are being abused need to have a place where they can reach out to people who can get them help. Guidance counsellors are a critical part of our society.

But I think that this gender-interference racket really erodes public trust in them.

I wouldn't have thought twice about my kid talking to a guidance counsellor before this notion of "secret gender transitioning conversations between kiddies and counsellors" became a thing. If I was sending a child through the California education system right now I would put them in a Christian school, and I'm an atheist.

User · Friday at 04:01 PM

12 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Your fantasies are amusing.

The fantasies being discussed here are those of trans people who believe they are something they are not.

13 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Have you finally admitted sex is NOT BINARY?

Why would we? You are male or female... or some kind of genetic disorder of the two.

But it is still a disorder of the binary.

WestCanMan · Friday at 04:01 PM

12 hours ago, eyeball said:

I figure

Thanks vax-boy, but no one cares what you 'figure'.

Go back to fondling your Fauci blow-up doll.

User · Friday at 04:07 PM

24 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You're a FOOL if you believe there are not women with the physical advantages of the trans woman in that pic.

AKA, you are entirely disingenuous.

Wait... what?

No, women are not as strong as men on average, and the best women are nowhere near the best men in physical competitions. There are clear differences between the two.

WestCanMan · Friday at 04:14 PM

Just now, User said:

The fantasies being discussed here are those of trans people who believe they are something they are not.

And I'm personally ok with adults doing that.

I'll even respect people's pronouns because it's no skin off my nose to say the words that they like.

But:

I'll never sit in a room and tell people what my pronouns are. Anyone could guess correctly and I don't play stupid games
If anyone tells me I can't say the word 'mother' I will find a way to work into every sentence I say, and I will basically shout it
Guidance counsellors can't speak to little kids about gender transitioning in secrecy. No wiggle room on that one.

robosmith · Friday at 05:08 PM

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Kids can do what they want to. I'm just not down with private conversations between children and guidance counsellors about matters of gender.

I think that it's really important that there's public trust in guidance counsellors in general because, among other things, kids who are being abused need to have a place where they can reach out to people who can get them help. Guidance counsellors are a critical part of our society.

But I think that this gender-interference racket really erodes public trust in them.

I wouldn't have thought twice about my kid talking to a guidance counsellor before this notion of "secret gender transitioning conversations between kiddies and counsellors" became a thing. If I was sending a child through the California education system right now I would put them in a Christian school, and I'm an atheist.

Because you never heard about priests abusing children? LMAO

User · Friday at 05:09 PM

Just now, robosmith said:

Because you never heard about priests abusing children? LMAO

No one here is advocating for priests to abuse children or defend that.

What are you talking about?

Scott75 · Friday at 05:20 PM

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

15 hours ago, Scott75 said:

On 4/24/2025 at 10:41 AM, robosmith said:

On 4/24/2025 at 10:38 AM, Scott75 said:

I can agree with all of that, but from what I've read, most people are either biologically male or biologically female.

So what? Are you saying that justifies the persecution of outliers?

No, just that in most cases, people can say that their sex is either male or female.

Again: SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

My point is that when most people are asked if their sex is male or female, they shouldn't have to say neither, or some variation of that.

Legato · Friday at 06:00 PM

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

You're a FOOL if you believe there are not women with the physical advantages of the trans woman in that pic.

AKA, you are entirely disingenuous.

Does that mean you're genuous, in that case I'll have a bakers dozen.

How many instances are there of women beating (not playing against) men in sports?

58 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Because you never heard about priests abusing children? LMAO

Goalposts.

Edited Friday at 06:12 PM by Legato

CdnFox · Friday at 06:07 PM

The problem is people in their rush to try and pretend there's more than two Sexes misunderstand something fundamental.

No matter what there is still two Sexes, even if a person has more than one sex or has no sex. A person who is born one sex and transformes into a second sex later is still either male or female, there is no third sex. A person who is genuinely both sexes is 2 sexes, male and female, they are not some different third sex. a person who is androgenous has NO sex.

But in all those cases, there's still just two sexes. So you might say that in some cases people can change sex, or have two sexes, or no sexes.

But there's still just two sexes.

robosmith · Friday at 06:27 PM

1 hour ago, Scott75 said:

My point is that when most people are asked if their sex is male or female, they shouldn't have to say neither, or some variation of that.

No one is telling anyone what they have to say. Many designations today include "non-binary."