CdnFox Posted April 23 Report Posted April 23 Many here have suggested that Canada is more robust social safety nets help prevent the sort of homelessness and poverty that we see in the states. But it would appear that the opposite is true. In fact we have vastly more homeless people living in Canada than the Americans do. It calls into question whether or not we are pursuing the right pass when it comes to poverty and homelessness in Canada. It also indirectly calls into question how we are addressing the drug epidemic as well as mental health issues. Whatever we've been doing, it's not working List of sovereign states by homeless population - Wikipedia Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
gatomontes99 Posted April 23 Report Posted April 23 The left defines the success of a program by how many people use it. So, if they start a program for homeless people and every year more homeless people access the program, it is successful. 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
WestCanMan Posted April 23 Report Posted April 23 I think you mean per capita, but yeah. They actually have 2.5x as many homeless as we do, but their population is 10x as high as ours. "Homelessness isn't a big problem in Canada. People can just build igloos when it gets cold." - the LPOC Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
herbie Posted April 24 Report Posted April 24 Your headline could not possibly be more bullshit if you tried. Quote
CdnFox Posted April 24 Author Report Posted April 24 1 minute ago, herbie said: Your headline could not possibly be more bullshit if you tried. USA- 19.5 Canada - 62.5 You're right - we're actually MORE than 3 times. 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Nationalist Posted April 24 Report Posted April 24 4 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: Now do prison population. Why? Are you proud of having more jailbirds than we do up here? That's what happens when people like Brandon and Kamala jail black people for smoking pot. Have a nice day Chrissy-Baby. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Legato Posted April 24 Report Posted April 24 9 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: Now do prison population. Please do try to not disturb the goalposts. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted April 24 Report Posted April 24 (edited) How is homelessness being defined there and is it the same in every country? I see a lot of Americans living in their cars for example. The most visible type is unsheltered, ie living rough on the street. Here’s a graph from the FT. A lot of UK homelessness is people in temporary accommodation whereas the US has an awful lot of hard-core homelessness. Edited April 24 by SpankyMcFarland Quote
CdnFox Posted April 24 Author Report Posted April 24 2 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said: Now do prison population. Sure, because homeless people and prisoners are pretty much the same thing 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted April 24 Author Report Posted April 24 1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said: How is homelessness being defined there and is it the same in every country? I see a lot of Americans living in their cars for example. The most visible type is unsheltered, ie living rough on the street. Here’s a graph from the FT. A lot of UK homelessness is people in temporary accommodation whereas the US has an awful lot of hard-core homelessness. I suppose if the truth bothered you enough you could rejig the numbers and rework the definitions till it stop bothering you if you wanted to Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
robosmith Posted April 24 Report Posted April 24 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: Why? Are you proud of having more jailbirds than we do up here? That's what happens when people like Brandon and Kamala jail black people for smoking pot. Have a nice day Chrissy-Baby. Because you believe that Senator Biden prosecuted illegal drug possessors like CA AG Harris? LMAO Or maybe you believe that AG's should just ignore the law like YOU defend Trump's CRIMES. 🤮 Clue for you: legislatures make the laws, NOT individuals. Now you know. LMAO Quote
CdnFox Posted April 24 Author Report Posted April 24 59 minutes ago, robosmith said: Because you believe that Senator Biden prosecuted illegal drug possessors like CA AG Harris? You're saying harris was an illegal drug possessor? 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
SpankyMcFarland Posted April 24 Report Posted April 24 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: I suppose if the truth bothered you enough you could rejig the numbers and rework the definitions till it stop bothering you if you wanted to The numbers speak for themselves. Quote
CdnFox Posted April 24 Author Report Posted April 24 22 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: The numbers speak for themselves. They did, it seems you didn't like what they said and tried to reframe it Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
SpankyMcFarland Posted April 25 Report Posted April 25 4 hours ago, CdnFox said: They did, it seems you didn't like what they said and tried to reframe it What I illustrated for a start was that those numbers do not reflect the number of people per capita living rough on the streets. Britain’s numbers there are not in America’s league. Quote
CdnFox Posted April 25 Author Report Posted April 25 2 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: What I illustrated for a start was that those numbers do not reflect the number of people per capita living rough on the streets. Britain’s numbers there are not in America’s league. Which is exactly what I said. You chose to reframe it so that the numbers were more favorable to your point of view. Have the end of the day with our social safety nets and drug programs etc we are actually experiencing higher homelessness then even somewhere such as the united states. That should give us pause, and force us to rethink our models. I'm not for a moment suggesting we should do away with the social safety net but it's clearly not doing as well as we'd like to believe Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
SpankyMcFarland Posted April 25 Report Posted April 25 10 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Which is exactly what I said. You chose to reframe it so that the numbers were more favorable to your point of view. Have the end of the day with our social safety nets and drug programs etc we are actually experiencing higher homelessness then even somewhere such as the united states. That should give us pause, and force us to rethink our models. I'm not for a moment suggesting we should do away with the social safety net but it's clearly not doing as well as we'd like to believe What I think should be said is this. Homelessness comes in many forms. The worst is living unhoused on the street. Clearly, America has a great deal of the worst kind. Regarding less severe forms, there is considerable variability in how the numbers can be interpreted. Quote
User Posted April 25 Report Posted April 25 6 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: What I think should be said is this. Homelessness comes in many forms. The worst is living unhoused on the street. Clearly, America has a great deal of the worst kind. Regarding less severe forms, there is considerable variability in how the numbers can be interpreted. Yeah, no. If you start reading into the housing accommodations being provided, you start to see that it includes run-down housing, mold, damp conditions, insect infestations, animals... You can't just presume that sleeping on a bench in a lovely year-round weather California coastal community is worse than living in some moldy hell hole of a house. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted April 25 Author Report Posted April 25 37 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: What I think should be said is this. Homelessness comes in many forms. Well what I think should be said is this: All homelessness regardless of its form is very bad and for whatever reason we are dropping the ball and falling behind countries that we often look down upon for their lack of social services. That needs to be addressed Have no idea why you are trying to defend homelessness and are okay with our current situation when obviously it is substandard even to the US. And I'm baffled while you're trying to argue there's a good homelessness and bad homelessness. I guarantee you probably wouldn't enjoy either if you had to experience it 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
WestCanMan Posted April 25 Report Posted April 25 On 4/23/2025 at 5:33 PM, herbie said: Your headline could not possibly be more bullshit if you tried. You couldn't be more of a whiny bullshit artist if you tried. Oh wait, you are trying. Nvm. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Nationalist Posted April 25 Report Posted April 25 16 hours ago, robosmith said: Because you believe that Senator Biden prosecuted illegal drug possessors like CA AG Harris? LMAO Or maybe you believe that AG's should just ignore the law like YOU defend Trump's CRIMES. 🤮 Clue for you: legislatures make the laws, NOT individuals. Now you know. LMAO Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Chrissy1979 Posted April 26 Report Posted April 26 On 4/24/2025 at 11:59 AM, CdnFox said: Sure, because homeless people and prisoners are pretty much the same thing Especially when you put them in jail instead of letting them live in parks. Quote
User Posted April 26 Report Posted April 26 47 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: Especially when you put them in jail instead of letting them live in parks. We should let them live in your home and all over your yard... Quote
CdnFox Posted April 26 Author Report Posted April 26 2 hours ago, User said: We should let them live in your home and all over your yard... Well that's not going to solve the problem. You can only get so many people inside a tent 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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