FEDERAL DEBATE SCANDAL

[Moonbox]

23 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

@Moonbox here's an example of one of their seasoned journalists ... keean bexte... He's known for having sold flags online, the far-right nationalist type...

Cute lad....

That tracks.  I'm somewhat sympathetic to the folks who complain about left-leaning bias in a lot of news.  When Rebel is the alternative they present, my faith in humanity dies a bit.  

[blackbird]

2 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

When Rebel is the alternative they present, my faith in humanity dies a bit.  

Sounds like you have extreme bias.  You are not willing to listen to all sides of a story.

Edited Monday at 05:28 PM by blackbird

[Michael Hardner]

6 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

 They do almost literally zero journalism, which again is likely why they registered as a political advocacy group.

 

Nope.

 

They REGISTERED as an advocacy group so that they could run election ads! 

The debates Chief didn't know.

 

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/article/federal-debates-chief-says-he-was-unaware-rebel-news-had-registered-as-advocacy-group/

[Moonbox]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

They REGISTERED as an advocacy group so that they could run election ads! 

That's the crazy thing here.  They don't even try to hide that they're nothing but political activists, but the apes are so desperate for the noises they want to hear that they'll convince themselves this is a credible news source anyway.  

[Moonlight Graham]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Bullshit.

You said in your link...

The first was after Singh's scrum. A Rebel reporter stated in her question that no human remains have been confirmed at former residential school sites initially reported since 2021. But after the scum (see 10:45 in the below video) Rosemary Barton claimed that human have indeed been found at former school sites. 

This is FALSE. (consult your favorite AI chat bot like ChatGPT or Grok to confirm yourself):

Ok....I did what you said and this is what I got.

AI Overview

Yes, human remains, particularly those of Indigenous children, have been found at some former residential school sites in Canada.

Now what?

That's false.  No human remains have been found.  Only "potential human remains" via ground-penetrating radar.  100% of the excavations they've done of these "potential graves" have turned up no human remains.  The "ground disturbances" have turned out to be things like rocks, tree roots, parts of old buildings etc.  No bones or anything like that.

54 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

@Moonbox here's an example of one of their seasoned journalists ... keean bexte... He's known for having sold flags online, the far-right nationalist type...

Cute lad....

And?  You don't like his politics or his age.  How is he not a journalist though?  What makes someone a journalist?  They must conform to your ideological and age restrictions?  We need objective measures, not "feelings".

Edited Monday at 05:55 PM by Moonlight Graham

[betsy]

19 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

That's the crazy thing here.  They don't even try to hide that they're nothing but political activists, but the apes are so desperate for the noises they want to hear that they'll convince themselves this is a credible news source anyway.  

 

Lol - the CBC runs ads too, doesn't it?

 

You're missing the point of the thread.

 

Furthermore - at least give plus point to the REBEL NEWS for registering as an advocacy group.  At least, they're open about it!

The CBC on the other hand,  pretends to be a news channel when we see their blatant bias, and we know it's a propaganda tool for the LIBERALS!

 

Edited Monday at 05:56 PM by betsy

[Michael Hardner]

18 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

That's the crazy thing here.  They don't even try to hide that they're nothing but political activists, but the apes are so desperate for the noises they want to hear that they'll convince themselves this is a credible news source anyway.  

And people on here try to say that they're objective somehow when they themselves run election ads.

Just makes you wonder how people think...

1 minute ago, betsy said:

 

Lol - the CBC runs ads too, doesn't it? 

 

🤣 

The CBC runs advocacy election ads ?

Boy oh boy... TIL = today I learned...

[Moonlight Graham]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

I suspect this would be frowned on if they were also registered as political advocates or campaign advertisers.  They make it bleedingly obvious they're stating their opinion.

In the meantime is it Rebel's fault the Debate Commission didn't realize they were advocates and campaign advertisers? In any case it should have been a consortium of broadcasters not political appointees who determined if they should have been afforded the same privilege as other news broadcasters.

 

So a newspaper endorsing a particular party or candidate isn't an advertisement?  What's the difference between that and the Rebel van?  The bias of the National Post is obvious.  They are trying to get the CPC elected.  Non-stop activism, they just aren't clowns like The Rebel.

Edited Monday at 06:00 PM by Moonlight Graham

[betsy]

17 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

And people on here try to say that they're objective somehow when they themselves run election ads.

Just makes you wonder how people think...

🤣 

The CBC runs advocacy election ads ?

Boy oh boy... TIL = today I learned...

 

 

These are advocacy ads meant to attack Poilievre's campaign: CBC streaming messages like:

 

REBEL NEWS EZRA LEVANT was mentor for Poilievre

and

Trump defunding universities that won't change their polices.   Will Poilievre do the same?

 

 

Lol - why don't they ask the same of Carney?   Will he do the same?

 

Boy, oh boy......if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and looks like a duck.....it surely ain't a bat! 🤣

Edited Monday at 06:13 PM by betsy

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

You are 100% wrong and if you actually go and read the readings you'll understand why

I highly doubt you've read them at all 

[betsy]

Don't we do this too, something like in the USA?  Remember the outrage when in the last US election, the LA TIMES which traditionally gives endorsements, had  refused to give an endorsement to Harris.

 

Editorial endorsement by a media like newspapers........they are usually done.....right?

Edited Monday at 06:12 PM by betsy

[betsy]

Barton and Cochtan thinks the questions asked by True North is not relevant to the TRUMP issue.

They're assessment  shows that CBC has a very low standard when it comes to journalism.

 

 

DEI is a big issue to Trump and MAGA.  We'd seen it being imposed already in France, so don't imagine the likelihood of the same won't happen to  Canada, or to Canadian companies.

 

 

How the US Removal of DEI Programs Could Affect Canada

While Canada has its own legal and social framework surrounding diversity, equity, and inclusion, the developments in the U.S. may still influence Canadian businesses, policies, and public opinion.

 Here's how it might affect Canada:

 

 

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.hirediverse.ca/blog/us-dei-removal-impact-canada[/URL]

 

 

 

Edited Monday at 06:24 PM by betsy

[betsy]

That's why Carney was stammering with these two questions by TRUE NORTH.......especially the second one, which he really didn't answer.  He didn't know how to answer it without damaging his campaign or poisoning his relationship with Trump should he become the PM........but he clearly says there are two genders!  You think he won't capitulate to Trump?

 

 

 

Why do you think UK court has ruled clearly on the two genders?  You think it has nothing to do with aligning with Trump?

 

 

What the UK ruling on the definition of ‘woman’ means for same-sex spaces, culture wars and more

The United Kingdom’s Supreme Court has ruled that a woman is defined by “biological sex” under the country’s equality law – excluding transgender women – in a case that is expected to impact accommodations for trans women in bathrooms, hospital wards, sports clubs and more.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/19/europe/uk-supreme-court-biological-woman-intl/index.html

 

 

The irony - Barton even explained it has something to do with the UK ruling on genders.  And she says, it's irrelevant?  DUH! 🤣

 

DEI is a big issue to Trump and MAGA.  We'd seen it being imposed already in France, so don't imagine the likelihood of the same won't happen to  Canada, or to Canadian companies.

 

 

How the US Removal of DEI Programs Could Affect Canada

While Canada has its own legal and social framework surrounding diversity, equity, and inclusion, the developments in the U.S. may still influence Canadian businesses, policies, and public opinion.

 Here's how it might affect Canada:

 

 

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.hirediverse.ca/blog/us-dei-removal-impact-canada[/URL]

 

 

Don't get me wrong.  I am against WOKE.

And although I'm not a feminist.......... I am very much for protecting the identity of women!  BIOLOGICAL WOMEN.

Edited Monday at 06:39 PM by betsy

[CouchPotato]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

@Moonbox here's an example of one of their seasoned journalists ... keean bexte... He's known for having sold flags online, the far-right nationalist type...

Cute lad....

Keean doesn't work for Rebel now. Incidentally he was the one the nutty guy from the Hill Times was originally yapping at. Keean was planning to ask about MP Ryan Turnbull's anti-gay comments. That's what kicked the whole thing off. Have you ever watched Keean?

Edited Monday at 06:34 PM by CouchPotato

[betsy]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Because it's almost impossible to 'define' a journalist... and nobody wants the state to issue journalism licenses.  Nobody.

So you depend on that very elusive and valuable quality called 'goodwill' and the attendant value of 'trust'.  Most Canadians know what that is but not Rebel News.

I was going to link to the story where they ran at Trudeau's bodyguards then started blubbering that they were assaulted, but the only organization who covered that was The Rebel themselves.  Typical.

 

Ezra Levant hit it on the nail when he said, practically everyone today with a cellphone can be a journalist.  If you record something newsworthy, and report it - that's news!   I've seen ads on news channels urging people to record news they come upon, and submit it.

 

It's a different world now, Michael.

Barton and Cochran are so behind the times.   Lol - they're getting clobbered by the likes of youtube and other social media.  How many news items become so detailed when it's being recorded as it happens?

 

 

Edited Monday at 06:46 PM by betsy

[CouchPotato]

Just now, betsy said:

It's a different world now, Michael.

Barton and Cochran are so behind the times.   Lol - they're getting clobbered by the likes of youtube and other social media.

And this is because people with phones catch them lying or omitting facts so often.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

 

No, it is the matter at hand.  It's Rebel Media being Rebel Media - doing exactly what they always do. It's a tired routine and not even the least bit noteworthy outside of the folks already drinking their Kool-Aid.  

Then they will go out of business. What's your problem

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

No, it's not.  There's no requirement to be a journalist to attend.  All you have to do is be an organization that:

 covers political, social and policy issues.

 

You mean a journalist 🙄

How much is 100 - 50?

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said:

And?  You don't like his politics or his age.  How is he not a journalist though?  What makes someone a journalist?  They must conform to your ideological and age restrictions?  We need objective measures, not "feelings".

I didn't say any of that.  I just gave some background on him... as a guy who sells right-wing flags, would you trust him as a journalist ?  

[CouchPotato]

19 minutes ago, betsy said:

 

Ezra Levant hit it on the nail when he said, practically everyone today with a cellphone can be a journalist.  If you record something newsworthy, and report it - that's news!   I've seen ads on news channels urging people to record news they come upon, and submit it.

If anything we need more of these outlets like Rebel. We need a James O'Keefe here.

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said:

So a newspaper endorsing a particular party or candidate isn't an advertisement?  

No.  It is not.  An editorial is not an ad.

The "a dog is really a cat if you look at it differently" is something that people use to excuse this new brand of nonsense regularly.  Don't do it.

[CouchPotato]

7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I didn't say any of that.  I just gave some background on him... as a guy who sells right-wing flags, would you trust him as a journalist ?  

If he reports something true that no one else reports then I would say he provides valuable journalism. I don't trust any of them 100%.

If someone lies about graves being found and about being endangered by the big scary madman Ezra Levant, should you still trust them as a journalist?

Do you have a link to Keean's flags? Any good deals?

Edited Monday at 07:11 PM by CouchPotato

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You are 100% wrong and if you actually go and read the readings you'll understand why

The fact that one division or element of rebel news is it paid advertiser does not change the fact that the divisions that have journalists are still journalists.

From the original court cases:

“When an organization: becomes an actor in the stories it tells, including providing and applying financial and legal assistance to some of its sources to work toward a desired outcome or offering free legal services, crowdfunds to help some individuals in stories hire lawyers, purchases political advertising and launches petitions;

There you go

There you go what? This is a partial quote without context.

[eyeball]

17 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

The "a dog is really a cat if you look at it differently" is something that people use to excuse this new brand of nonsense regularly.  Don't do it.

I'm reminded of the way Catholics declared that rabbits were a type of fish to get around having to eat fish on Fridays.

1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said:

So a newspaper endorsing a particular party or candidate isn't an advertisement?

If the newspaper was paid to write the endorsement it would be an advertisement.

[Michael Hardner]

9 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I'm reminded of the way Catholics declared that rabbits were a type of fish to get around having to eat fish on Fridays.

I think it was capybaras...

[Moonbox]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

You mean a journalist 🙄

No, here's the whole quote:

For the purpose of accreditation, a "media organization" is an organization that either produces original news content related to coverage of Canadian or international political news, or covers political, social and policy issues.

Bolded is journalism.  Second part is wide open: advocacy groups, think-tanks etc.  

As already mentioned, a federal judge just ruled they don't count as a journalism organization, because they're not actually producing any original news content.  They're just a bunch of loud shrills reposting content from elsewhere and ranting about made-up shit and other nonsense. 

Of course you're a fan.  🙃