GREENS KICKED OUT OF DEBATE!!! (obviously this is to benefit the liberals)

[CdnFox]

Green Party dropped from leaders' debates for not running enough candidates | CBC News

Leaders' Debates Commission says party's decision to remove candidates for strategic reasons led to the move

 

What a load of crap this is. Yes, they are dropping candidates in a number of areas in order to help the liberals win But even still they are still running more candidates than the block is. This was obviously a decision strictly to help the liberals solidify the left vote and make sure there were no distracting voices. They still need all the criteria

I hope Elizabeth May realizes that the destruction of her party when they become utterly irrelevant might very well be the price they pay to buy carney his chance to rape Canada

[PIK]

Looks good on them. If they want to cry about democracy, then Ms May shouldnt have came out with the coalition talk,just to deny the cons from winning. 

[CdnFox]

10 minutes ago, PIK said:

Looks good on them. If they want to cry about democracy, then Ms May shouldnt have came out with the coalition talk,just to deny the cons from winning. 

But that's not part of the rules here. If there was a requirement for a certain number of provinces the block would be out. 

They are doing this not because it is just or right or because it makes any particular sense, they're doing it because it benefits the liberals.

[Barquentine]

 

Doesn't help the liberals. It gives the other 3 parties more time to attack Carney

41 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

This was obviously a decision strictly to help the liberals solidify the left vote and make sure there were no distracting voices.

Oh good. More conspiracy theories.

[CdnFox]

Just now, Barquentine said:

 

Doesn't help the liberals. It gives the other 3 parties more time to attack Carney

 

No it doesn't give the other parties any additional time at all.

It totally benefits the liberals. This would have to be your first day following politics not to realize that

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Oh good. More conspiracy theories.

Oh good, more lies and denials 🙄

[SpankyMcFarland]

The Greens failed to meet the criteria to qualify. 

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In order to participate in the debates, parties must meet two of three conditions: having one seat in the House of Commons at dissolution, holding at least four per cent national support in polls 28 days before the election, or have endorsed candidates in at least 90 per cent of ridings 28 days before the election.

Four weeks before election day the Greens were only polling at three per cent in national polls, but they did hold two seats when Parliament was dissolved, and submitted the names of 343 candidates they intended to nominate to run in every riding.

But when the official Elections Canada candidates’ list was released last week it included only 232 Green Party candidates.

If they’d been let in the PPC should have been allowed too. I can’t see how this benefits Carney at all. The fewer the candidates, the more attention on the French lessons. 
 

 

 

[TreeBeard]

Unfortunately, they don’t meet the criteria to be in the debates having dropped so many candidates.   Amateur hour at the Green Party HQ.  

3 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

The Greens failed to meet the criteria to qualify. 

If they’d been let in the PPC should have been allowed too. I can’t see how this benefits Carney at all. The fewer the candidates, the more attention on the French lessons. 
 

 

 

His French was fine in interviews.  

[SpankyMcFarland]

13 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Unfortunately, they don’t meet the criteria to be in the debates having dropped so many candidates.   Amateur hour at the Green Party HQ.  

His French was fine in interviews.  

It’s going to be tested more rigorously in a debate where multiple people are sniping at him at once. Even in English, he sometimes takes a long time to answer questions and can pause in the middle of a sentence for what seems an eternity. He wasn’t chosen for his eloquence. 

Blanchet could easily switch to incomprehensible remarks and turns of phrase to show Carney up although that might backfire. 

[TreeBeard]

2 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

It’s going to be tested more rigorously in a debate where multiple people are sniping at him at once. Even in English, he sometimes takes a long time to answer questions and can pause in the middle of a sentence for what seems an eternity. He wasn’t chosen for his eloquence. 

No one in English speaking Canada is going to care about his French, notwithstanding the Conservative posters here who have suddenly come to Jesus about how important bilingualism is in Canada.

 

 And Quebecers don’t seem to mind that he isn’t fluent. 

Edited April 16 by TreeBeard

[SpankyMcFarland]

If I was harbouring dreams of leading the country I’d be taking French lessons every day. Carney should have been at this years ago. 

2 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

No one in English speaking Canada is going to care about his French, notwithstanding the Conservative posters here who have suddenly come to Jesus about how important bilingualism is in Canada.

 

 And Quebecers don’t seem to mind that he isn’t fluent. 

Both true. His imperfect French is well known to everybody. He just has to avoid saying something ridiculous which can easily occur. 

[I am Groot]

Gee, I guess Singh will have to carry the entire "I hate Israel, let's kill all the Jews" argument without her help.

At least Carney will show him some sympathy there.

 

Edited April 16 by I am Groot

[WestCanMan]

The Greens have participated in every debate for 20 years... Now that herbie's global warming floodfires are just days away, the Greens are banned???????

CBC DOESN'T CARE ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING!!!

CBC DOESN'T CARE ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING!!!

 

CBC DOESN'T CARE ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING!!!

CBC DOESN'T CARE ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING!!!

 

CBC DOESN'T CARE ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING!!!

CBC DOESN'T CARE ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING!!!

10 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

If I was harbouring dreams of leading the country I’d be taking French lessons every day. Carney should have been at this years ago. 

When he was in Britain? Or Ireland? 

He was out of the country for ten years, he gets a pass (from CBC, Global and CTV).

[WestCanMan]

13 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

No one in English speaking Canada is going to care about his French, notwithstanding the Conservative posters here who have suddenly come to Jesus about how important bilingualism is in Canada. 

It was CBC who cared about Sheer's 2nd passport. Now they don't care about Carney's passport dufflebag. (poetic license, mofo)

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 And Quebecers don’t seem to mind that he isn’t fluent.

So say the CBC/CTV 'polls', right? 

[CdnFox]

37 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

The Greens failed to meet the criteria to qualify. 

If they’d been let in the PPC should have been allowed too. I can’t see how this benefits Carney at all. The fewer the candidates, the more attention on the French lessons. 
 

The attention on the french lessons will be the same either way. But the fewer people attacking him easier it is to dismiss.

The thing is that the PPC did not meet the criteria that had been laid forward. They only had to achieve one of the three criteria and they didn't get any of them. So it's fair to exclude them, these are the rules that makes sense. But the greens actually did meet the criteria that had been set out. The commission said we will allow people provided they meet these terms, The greens did, And now the commission is arbitrarily out of nowhere just deciding out of the blue that they're disqualified because they didn't like something the greens did.

And I will remind you that carney gave the excuse that he wouldn't attend a second french language debate because the greens hadn't been invited and that would be unfair. Is he raising a big fuss over this? Haven't seen it.

In Carney's perfect world it would be just him and Poilievre. This is one less person attacking him that he has to discredit and they had no chance of winning so there was absolutely no value for him to have to deal with them.

Right now every green voter takes away from the liberals. The liberals are doing well because they are stealing green NDP and block voters. It is to their advantage not to allow the greens to fight back and try and take back some of their votes

[SpankyMcFarland]

The Green co-leader is blaming Tory and BQ supporters for the decision:

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Pedneault blames commentators backing the Bloc Québécois and the Conservatives who he says are more interested in protecting their turf than in informing Canadians.

 

It looks like the Greens never intended to run all those candidates. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

20 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

When he was in Britain? Or Ireland?

You can get French lessons in both of those countries. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

12 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

In Carney's perfect world it would be just him and Poilievre. This is one less person attacking him that he has to discredit and they had no chance of winning so there was absolutely no value for him to have to deal with them.

That would elevate Poilievre and give both him and Carney more time to speak which is not what Carney needs, obviously. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

I keep on mixing up the Greens and NDP in my head which shows how far the NDP have fallen. 

[Moonbox]

In order to qualify for the only two federal debates, a party needs to meet two of three criteria: it must be running candidates in at least 90% of Canada’s 343 ridings 28 days before the 28 April general election, poll above 4% and have a sitting member of parliament. 

They did not qualify, so they do not debate.  This isn't a new rule.  

[Barquentine]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

No it doesn't give the other parties any additional time at all.

Ok kids settle down, we're doing simple division today. Now if we have 120 apples and 5 kids, how many apples does each child get? Ok, now if there are 4 children how many apples does each child get? Which number is bigger?

Now Dumbass, change apples to minutes and maybe, just maybe you'll see why you're wrong.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

I keep on mixing up the Greens and NDP in my head which shows how far the NDP have fallen. 

LOL 

well after this election it may be more difficult, they could have a similar seat count if the polls are to be believed. They're projecting 4 ndp seats at the moment.  

I would say that the combination of the threat of trump and Jagger's own performance has the entire left rushing to pick someone who they perceive as the best 'anti trump' option. 

[CdnFox]

36 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

Ok kids settle down, we're doing simple division today. Now if we have 120 apples and 5 kids, how many apples does each child get? Ok, now if there are 4 children how many apples does each child get? Which number is bigger?

 

Each kid. Not the opposition. Your claim was that it gives the other parties additional time. It does not. They all get the same increase. The division is spread amongst the parties equally not just the opposition. So right off the bat you prove you're wrong. 

But lets go a step further.  I'll make the math even more simple because you've already screwed it up with apples. 

If there's 50 minutes and 5 parties how much time does each party get?  Heck i'll answer for you just to speed things up. It's 10 minutes. 

So that would mean that 40 minutes would be given over to attacking the liberals (other party times), and 10 for the liberals to defend themselves.

Still with me? 50 / 5 ?

Now.  If we take one party away, how much time is there for each party? 12.5  minutes each right? 50 /4?

So now thats' 37.5 minutes total available to attack the liberals and 12.5 minutes for them to defend themselves. 

The net bnefit to the liberals is a GAIN of 5 minutes in their favour. 

So there is LESS time to attack the liberals and MORE time to defend. 

Looks like math is a little to hard for you  

And yes, you not only look like a loser right now, but one who can't do basic math    Class dismissed, you owe me an apple little guy   

[Barquentine]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The net bnefit to the liberals is a GAIN of 5 minutes in their favour. 

So there is LESS time to attack the liberals and MORE time to defend. 

Oh my God. you really need some help. So going from 24 mins each to 30 mins each equals less time in your little brain? No wonder you like the Cons. I'm sure PeePee, like Trump "loves the poorly educated".

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

Oh my God. you really need some help. So going from 24 mins each to 30 mins each equals less time in your little brain? No wonder you like the Cons. I'm sure PeePee, like Trump "loves the poorly educated".

Good grief kid, I told you the time was an example to make the math easy for you. The debates were much longer than 50 minutes.

LOL You f*cked up And got basic math wrong  You tried to be a smart-ass and wound up looking like a complete loser because I was right all along and it meant the opposition had less attack time rather than more attack time like you suggested  

Then you come back and try and make yourself look even stupider by claiming that I was entirely right but that it doesn't really matter because you think the fake numbers I gave to illustrate the point where actually real numbers despite my advising you they weren't   

The entire board now knows you are as dumb as a stump   You couldn't handle basic math, he tried to be a smart-ass about it and got your buthanded to you because you can't count without taking off both of your mitts and then you compound it by trying to criticize my intelligence when you were the one that screwed it up in the first place  

And if you had a quarter of a brain you realize I don't generally open my mouth unless I'm correct, I can just make mistakes but if I say something as simple as no they don't get more time to attack him it's a smart idea to sit and really think about that before you say something stupid that you know I'm going to shoot you down over

 

Bottom line kid, you do math the way that Justin Trudeau does budgets. You just throw it out there and hope it balances itself  

Edited April 17 by CdnFox

[Aristides]

9 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Unfortunately, they don’t meet the criteria to be in the debates having dropped so many candidates.   Amateur hour at the Green Party HQ.  

His French was fine in interviews.  

So if that is the criteria, why is the Bloc there?