Trump is guided by God

[WestCanMan]

On 4/5/2025 at 7:47 PM, Matthew said:

You would lose that bet. They some kind of doctor at their megachurch who would host a clinic during the pandemic where he would dole out ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. So she did that instead of going to a real doctor, at least before her condition escalated.

Every leftard on this site would lose all of their bets on 'vax' safety and 'vax' efficacy.

9 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

you could say that anyone /anything is guided by God. 

Or no one/nothing, if you're an Atheist. 

[impartialobserver]

the best thing about covid is that it is over. Wife had it twice and I had it once. it sucked but was not as bad as it was supposed to be. 

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, impartialobserver said:

the best thing about covid is that it is over. Wife had it twice and I had it once. it sucked but was not as bad as it was supposed to be. 

It seems like every flu is the worst in one way or another 😂

[impartialobserver]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

It seems like every flu is the worst in one way or another 😂

Agreed. one reason that I got so tired of the topic so quickly. "the sky is falling"... over and over again. It loses its impact on the second repetition let alone the 9,345,600th. Now, had Shingles during this time and that lives up to the hype. 

[WestCanMan]

5 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Agreed. one reason that I got so tired of the topic so quickly. "the sky is falling"... over and over again. It loses its impact on the second repetition let alone the 9,345,600th. Now, had Shingles during this time and that lives up to the hype. 

Ouch.

I've never had that one yet but everyone I know who had it says the same thing you did. 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

you could say that anyone /anything is guided by God. 

True. I mean the guy flooded the world, set locusts and other plagues upon mankind when they got out of line, turned his biggest believer's wife into salt for glancing in the wrong direction and let his son get nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change

So is trump so hard to believe?   I mean to listen to the dems it's pretty much the same league. 

Edited April 9 by CdnFox

[Hodad]

11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

86.3% of the people in Canada who died of covid were multi-jabbed. Turns out the myocarditis juice from our fascist overlords did not help.

The vaccines definitely helped--and tremendously so. Your math tutor, not so much. 

99% of Canadians who died in car accidents last year were in cars with airbags. Guess in your world airbags don't help. 

 

Edited April 9 by Hodad

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, Hodad said:

The vaccines definitely helped--and tremendously so. Your math tutor, not so much. 

99% of Canadians who died in car accidents last year were in cars with airbags. Guess in your world airbags don't help. 

 

Wow is this ever a thin argument.

Congratulations for reaffirming that you're incapable of rational thought.

[Hodad]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Wow is this ever a thin argument.

Congratulations for reaffirming that you're incapable of rational thought.

Yes, as an exact replica of WCM's vaccine criticism, it is indeed a very thin argument and does not reflect rational thought. 

Good job catching on. Maybe satire is your mode of learning?

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

Yes, as an exact replica of WCM's vaccine criticism, it is indeed a very thin argument and does not reflect rational thought. 

Good job catching on. Maybe satire is your mode of learning?

Actually...I know you loath to admit it but, @WestCanMan argument is quite rational.

Yours...apparently a joke.

[impartialobserver]

14 hours ago, CdnFox said:

True. I mean the guy flooded the world, set locusts and other plagues upon mankind when they got out of line, turned his biggest believer's wife into salt for glancing in the wrong direction and let his son get nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change

So is trump so hard to believe?   I mean to listen to the dems it's pretty much the same league. 

I am a iifelong atheist and think that God is a figment of the imagination. So God and anything he supposedly says can be anything you want. Its like an imaginary friend. However, to cut you off.. I do not care if anybody else is religious. If you are then cool. If not, that's ok as well 

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Actually...I know you loath to admit it but, @WestCanMan argument is quite rational.

Yours...apparently a joke.

It's not rational. Not remotely. As populations approach 100% participation OF COURSE any negative outcome will be primarily among those who have engaged in any mitigating activity. 

Has been explained at least 50 times now, but saying that x% of deaths were among the vaccinated is wholly irrelevant. To measure the efficacy of an intervention you must compare the outcomes of those with intervention and those without on an incident basis. 

If you want to know if vaccines are effective, you compare the outcomes of those who contracted COVID while vaccinated to those who contracted COVID without being vaccinated. 

It's not hard to understand, and the difference in outcomes is stark. The unvaccinated were many times more likely to be hospitalized and many times more likely to die. This is true in every study, in every population. 

 

5 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

I am a iifelong atheist and think that God is a figment of the imagination. So God and anything he supposedly says can be anything you want. Its like an imaginary friend. However, to cut you off.. I do not care if anybody else is religious. If you are then cool. If not, that's ok as well 

If there is a god guiding Trump, it's clearly one who is very bad at economics.

[Legato]

19 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

Agreed. one reason that I got so tired of the topic so quickly. "the sky is falling"... over and over again. It loses its impact on the second repetition let alone the 9,345,600th. Now, had Shingles during this time and that lives up to the hype. 

Condolences, shingles is the worst pain I've ever had . Started on a Christmas Eve.

My Christmas name is now Shingle Bells.

[WestCanMan]

7 hours ago, Hodad said:

The vaccines definitely helped--and tremendously so. Your math tutor, not so much. 

Then how about this:

In 2020, when covid was a novel virus, and 0% of Canadians were vaxed, 15,000 people total died of covid.

In 2022, when covid was no longer a novel virus, 16,000 multi-jabbed Canadians died of covid. 19,000 people total.

 

When I studied math, 16,000 was more than 15,000. So is 19,000. Sorry, but your math tutor (a chimp?) sucked.

When I studied biology, they told us that vaccinating a group of people would lead to less deaths, not significantly more deaths. 

When Trudeau and Fauci were pimping the jabs, they said that people "didn't need to worry about covid", not "que sera, sera".

When Trudeau and Fauci were pimping the jabs, they said that they were safe, not "side-effects include death, intense chronic pain leading to suicidal ideation, permanent disability, plus a whole laundry list of serious permanent & temporary side effects".

When Trudeau set about forcing young people to take the jab in Canada, that was based on "You won't give covid to granny if you're vaxed", not "you will be more likely to spread covid to granny".

When 15,000 Canadians died of covid, and hospitals were "overwhelmed", Trudeau and Fauci said "only a vax can save us!", and the MSM said the sky was falling. Then, after the saviourvax came out, 19,000 Canadians died of covid, hospitals were several times as overwhelmed, but Trudeau and Fauci said "The jabs saved us", and the MSM said nothing about the increase in deaths and the increasingly overwhelmed hospitals. 

If 85% of Canadians became 80% less likely to die (80% less likely was a theory that some leftards floated here) then how did deaths go up by 36% in 2022? Why did the vaxed account for almost 90% of covid deaths? Why did vaxed-deaths in 2022 surpass the total number of deaths in every other year?

 

You've got a lot of things to answer that can't be explained away by "The CDC's mystery graph tells all!"

But keep clinging to Fauci's lies and BS, Hodad 😂

[Hodad]

31 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Then how about this:

In 2020, when covid was a novel virus, and 0% of Canadians were vaxed, 15,000 people total died of covid.

In 2022, when covid was no longer a novel virus, 16,000 multi-jabbed Canadians died of covid. 19,000 people total.

 

When I studied math, 16,000 was more than 15,000. So is 19,000. Sorry, but your math tutor (a chimp?) sucked.

When I studied biology, they told us that vaccinating a group of people would lead to less deaths, not significantly more deaths. 

When Trudeau and Fauci were pimping the jabs, they said that people "didn't need to worry about covid", not "que sera, sera".

When Trudeau and Fauci were pimping the jabs, they said that they were safe, not "side-effects include death, intense chronic pain leading to suicidal ideation, permanent disability, plus a whole laundry list of serious permanent & temporary side effects".

When Trudeau set about forcing young people to take the jab in Canada, that was based on "You won't give covid to granny if you're vaxed", not "you will be more likely to spread covid to granny".

When 15,000 Canadians died of covid, and hospitals were "overwhelmed", Trudeau and Fauci said "only a vax can save us!", and the MSM said the sky was falling. Then, after the saviourvax came out, 19,000 Canadians died of covid, hospitals were several times as overwhelmed, but Trudeau and Fauci said "The jabs saved us", and the MSM said nothing about the increase in deaths and the increasingly overwhelmed hospitals. 

If 85% of Canadians became 80% less likely to die (80% less likely was a theory that some leftards floated here) then how did deaths go up by 36% in 2022? Why did the vaxed account for almost 90% of covid deaths? Why did vaxed-deaths in 2022 surpass the total number of deaths in every other year?

 

You've got a lot of things to answer that can't be explained away by "The CDC's mystery graph tells all!"

But keep clinging to Fauci's lies and BS, Hodad 😂

Years into this nonsense and you still can't figure out that raw numbers are entirely irrelevant. 

Again, to illustrate how flawed your "math" is, a higher number of people have died in car crashes every single year since seat belts became mandatory. Every year, more people dead. Using the same head-up-the-ass thinking, you would have to conclude that seat belts don't save lives. 

You have the goddamn internet. You don't have to fumble around wondering how to calculate the effectiveness of an intervention. Yet still you persist.

Edited April 9 by Hodad

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

I am a iifelong atheist and think that God is a figment of the imagination. So God and anything he supposedly says can be anything you want. Its like an imaginary friend. However, to cut you off.. I do not care if anybody else is religious. If you are then cool. If not, that's ok as well 

You..... ahh... you realize that post was entirely tongue in cheek and meant to be more humorous than serious right?

[robosmith]

On 4/9/2025 at 5:17 AM, Nationalist said:

Wow is this ever a thin argument.

Congratulations for reaffirming that you're incapable of rational thought.

^"thin" argument, trounces your BANKRUPTCY.

All ^YOU can do is hurl insults. ^No REASON to believe your ^OPINIONS.

Try again. LMAO

[robosmith]

On 4/9/2025 at 9:38 AM, Nationalist said:

Actually...I know you loath to admit it but, @WestCanMan argument is quite rational.

Yours...apparently a joke.

Neither of you knows jack shit about vaccines nor how they work.

And WCM "statistical" argument is the joke.

When everyone is vaxxed, everyone who dies was vaxxed, and that doesn't mean the vax was ineffective.

Do you even know the role that your immune system plays in fighting COVID WITH the vax?

If your immune system is shot, NO VAX will save you.

[herbie]

You know, our local store manager totally believes the utter bullshit these anti-vax retards are spouting like more vaxxed people died that unvaxxed, that more people died from the vax than Covid itself, etc.
She also refuses to buy pot from the local store because you never know what the govt is putting into it....

 

[User]

On 4/5/2025 at 9:47 PM, Matthew said:

You would lose that bet. They some kind of doctor at their megachurch who would host a clinic during the pandemic where he would dole out ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. So she did that instead of going to a real doctor, at least before her condition escalated.

Are you even honest enough to admit what you just did?

You first said "horse dewormer," and then you turned around and said "ivermectin"

 

[User]

On 4/4/2025 at 8:39 PM, robosmith said:

There is NO INDICATION whatsoever that Trump has a belief in god.

IF he did, he would not CONTINUOUSLY seek self indulgence at the expense of whomever he can SUCKER out of money.

This is just a stupid lie. 

 

[User]

On 4/8/2025 at 5:59 PM, WestCanMan said:

86.3% of the people in Canada who died of covid were multi-jabbed. Turns out the myocarditis juice from our fascist overlords did not help.

Where are you getting this number from?

[WestCanMan]

40 minutes ago, User said:

Where are you getting this number from?

It's not a number that the gov't put out.

They just put out stats showing the number of people who died of covid, broken into vax-status categories, during specific time intervals, and if you do the math then you can figure out what percentage of the people who died of covid were unvaxed, 2x-vaxed, 3x-vaxed, or 4x-vaxed between the intervals.

Eg, they show the number of people who died between Dec 14 2020 and July __ 2022, then they put out another chart in September showing the number of people who died between Dec 14 2020 and Sept 25 2022. 

The charts all start on Dec 14 2020, so if you subtract the old totals from the new totals, you can tell how many people died between the later dates (July __ and Sept 25).

The charts always make the jabs look good at first glance, because on the start date it was the heart of flu season and all 38M Canadians were unvaxed, but if you put two charts side-by-side you can tell how many people in each group died during that time interval.

Eg, in between these two charts something like 155 unvaxed died, 122 2x-jabbed, 482 3x-jabbed and 323 4x-jabbed died of covid.

If you add it all up, only 155 of the 1,082 deaths were unvaxed. 14.3%. So 85.7% of the deaths in that period were omong the 2x-, 3x- and 4x-vaxed.

After Sept 2022 the gov't stopped giving us that data. 

  

Their actual chart from infobase (health Canada) was this, the data is bottom right. You can see it matches up with the Statista graph for Sept 25 2022

 

 

Edited 20 hours ago by WestCanMan

[User]

13 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

If you add it all up, only 155 of the 1,082 deaths were unvaxed. 14.3%. So 85.7% of the deaths in that period were omong the 2x-, 3x- and 4x-vaxed.

Add all of what up? Literally nothing you said here shows the math you are using. Those charts clearly show that more people died that were unvaccinated. So... what is this "add it all up" you are doing to get 155 or 1082?

 

 

[WestCanMan]

20 minutes ago, User said:

Add all of what up? Literally nothing you said here shows the math you are using. Those charts clearly show that more people died that were unvaccinated. So... what is this "add it all up" you are doing to get 155 or 1082?

If 10 unvaxed people died between January 1 of this year and the end of February, the total number of deaths from Jan 1 to February 28 was 10. Right?

If 15 unvaxed people died between January 1 of this year and the end of March, the total number of deaths went up from 10 to 15. Right? During the month of March....

How many unvaxed people died in March? Is there any way of figuring that out using the info above? The gov't of Canada won't tell you. They just want you to glance at that graph and thank God for the jab. 

Edited 20 hours ago by WestCanMan