Matthew Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 On 4/2/2025 at 12:23 PM, Deluge said: This woke prophesying Basic economic reality is woke now. 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted April 4 Author Report Posted April 4 4 hours ago, Deluge said: You don't know shit in real time. MSNBC is for woke cultists only. The truth is that we're going to feel some pain for maybe up to two years until Trump gets on top of things, and that beats the shit out of watching the country bleed out under Kamala Harris. LMAO the numbers are the same everywhere loser. You don’t know shit in real time or delayed time So can you link me to where Trump promised he would destroy the stock market and economy for half his presidency before it got better because I can only find clips of him saying the markets and economy would take off ON DAY ONE and where he said the economic success Americas experienced in 2024 under BIDEN was because markets knew he was going to win the election and the Trump economy had already started. As usual you’re a shameless cult follower who changes his story every 5 minutes to defend DEAR LEADER even in the face of the obvious of t 34 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Some pain for two years? I don’t recall candidate Trump promising that. Don’t worry neither does @Delugebecause it never happened 4 Quote
BeaverFever Posted April 4 Author Report Posted April 4 4 hours ago, User said: You have no room to talk about cultish devotions after we witnessed Biden be mentally unfit to be President or how you hide from people on here when you are called out for the bogus crap you post. Still avoiding the subject at hand just throwing out whataboutery …why are you here? 2 Quote
BeaverFever Posted April 4 Author Report Posted April 4 (edited) 5 hours ago, User said: If his plan was clearly articulated that he wants truly even tariffs with all these countries and this is simply a negotiating tactic, I am on board. However, constantly saying he is going to make Canada the 51st state, or that tariffs are going to make us money, while ignoring that any money raised by tariffs is actually just a tax on Americans... no, don't like any of that stupid rhetoric. How can I support Trump? Support is not 100% for or against, I support Trump in general and agree and disagree with things he does. That’s like someone saying they don’t agree with communism but support Stalin because of his support for the arts, in that the thing you don’t support is his defining feature and isan outrage / blunder for the history books. By comparison, nobody will remember the tampon wars. BTW I never said I supported tampons in mens room I don’t care one way or the other. It’s not the end of the world either way. Edited April 4 by BeaverFever 1 Quote
User Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 2 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: That’s like someone saying they support don’t agree with communism but support Stalin because of his support for the arts, in that the thing you don’t support is his defining feature and isan outrage / blunder for the history books. By comparison, nobody will remember the tampon wars. BTW I never said I supported tampons in mens room I don’t care one way or the other. It’s not the end of the world either way. No, that is not like that at all. Trump isn't a figure like Stalin and the system he is supporting isn't like Communism. I mean... you sure do spend a lot of time remembering the tampon issue. If this was a discussion about the stupidity of it you would be here defending it. Even now, you play the dumb game of saying you don't care either way... but you do. You brought it up, you care enough only when it comes to folks on the right opposing it. 20 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Still avoiding the subject at hand just throwing out whataboutery …why are you here? Why do you insist on playing these dumb dishonest games? I clearly responded to the subject here and you ignored every part of it to quote one specific piece to respond to and bring up tampons again. Quote
robosmith Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 55 minutes ago, Legato said: Are the Irish eyes smiling? Only if Trump backs off his RIDCICULOUS TARIFFS VERY SOON and the markets bounce back. Quote
Deluge Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Some pain for two years? I don’t recall candidate Trump promising that. It's an estimate that I made. Maybe it'll be sooner. What's most important is that the stupid c*nt former VP isn't in charge. Quote
Deluge Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 45 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: LMAO the numbers are the same everywhere loser. You don’t know shit in real time or delayed time So can you link me to where Trump promised he would destroy the stock market and economy for half his presidency before it got better because I can only find clips of him saying the markets and economy would take off ON DAY ONE and where he said the economic success Americas experienced in 2024 under BIDEN was because markets knew he was going to win the election and the Trump economy had already started. As usual you’re a shameless cult follower who changes his story every 5 minutes to defend DEAR LEADER even in the face of the obvious of t Don’t worry neither does @Delugebecause it never happened What numbers you dumb c*nt? There are no numbers that confirm what you're crying about. And I don't have a link to what you think I think Trump said, because it doesn't exist. I'm guessing on how much pain we might have to go through before Trump rights the ship. You don't know shit. You're a pronoun slut with a magic 8 ball, that's it. 49 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Still avoiding the subject at hand just throwing out whataboutery …why are you here? There is no subject at hand. You're just some dumb c*nt who hates America and Donald Trump. Take your meds and get over yourself. Quote
Deluge Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 58 minutes ago, Matthew said: Basic economic reality is woke now. Your read on pretty much everything is woke. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 5 hours ago, Hodad said: What's happening to people like @gatomontes99 right now is rather sad. Campaign: Trump's policies as described and their effects described sound great! In office: Trump's policies weren't as described and the the effects are the opposite of what was promised, still great! Because they have no grounding in reality. It's simple cultish devotion. Like the notion of papal infallibility, no matter what kind of mess is being made or the harm being done, if Trump did it, it's right. Hail Melania, full of grace. Don't look at the news, don't listen to all those economists (heretics!) and whatever you do, don't look at your 401K. Just have faith. He moves in mysterious ways. Lmao. The difference between you and me is that when i describe liberal behavior it's from a position of observation. When you describe conservative behavior it's from a position of projection. 1 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
I am Groot Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 21 hours ago, Hodad said: The intent is to replace low paying service and gig jobs with higher paying manufacturing work. It's not an unreasonable desire, but there are much smarter ways build up manufacturing. Perhaps without strangling the economy and crushing consumers with this thoughtless, regressive trade war. Sure are. And this is just brainless. As a guy explained on BNN this evening, under Trump's tariffs an Iphone is going to cost over $2000. And when asked what it would cost if made in the US he said about $3500. The work done by Apple subcontractors in China like Foxconn is not exactly great. Their workers throw themselves off the building! You won't get Americans to work those kinds of hours, and even for an 8hr shift you'll have to pay them $25hr - at least and spend billions on the factory and parts makers. 22 hours ago, Nationalist said: And? Lol...good thing my investments didn't suffer, eh? What are you invested in, cocaine? When the market goes down 2000 points everyone's investments suffer. Unless they have none. 1 2 Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted April 4 Report Posted April 4 2 hours ago, Legato said: Are the Irish eyes smiling? Irish eyes are certainly not smiling. They’re deeply worried about the profits booked by US companies in their country. Quote
Aristides Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: Lmao. The difference between you and me is that when i describe liberal behavior it's from a position of observation. When you describe conservative behavior it's from a position of projection. The markets losing ten percent of their value in two days with no end in sight is now projection. You really are in la la land. 1 Quote
Aristides Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 49 minutes ago, I am Groot said: Sure are. And this is just brainless. As a guy explained on BNN this evening, under Trump's tariffs an Iphone is going to cost over $2000. And when asked what it would cost if made in the US he said about $3500. The work done by Apple subcontractors in China like Foxconn is not exactly great. Their workers throw themselves off the building! You won't get Americans to work those kinds of hours, and even for an 8hr shift you'll have to pay them $25hr - at least and spend billions on the factory and parts makers. What are you invested in, cocaine? When the market goes down 2000 points everyone's investments suffer. Unless they have none. The rest of the world isn't going to pay $3500 for a Yankee made iPhone or even $2K for a foreign made iPhone, they will switch to Android phones made with non US components that cost half as much. Quote
Legato Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 2 hours ago, robosmith said: Only if Trump backs off his RIDCICULOUS TARIFFS VERY SOON and the markets bounce back. ..>>>>>>>>>>>Whoosh>>>>>>>>>>>>>>doink. 37 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Irish eyes are certainly not smiling. They’re deeply worried about the profits booked by US companies in their country. Just ask robo about his IRA. 1 Quote
Aristides Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 (edited) One thing is now obvious, Trump is worse than Covid for the world's economies. Edited April 5 by Aristides 1 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted April 5 Author Report Posted April 5 (edited) 2 hours ago, West said: Pfft On a 5-year basis.Yeah no girl is ugly if you zoom out far enough, eh? Also are you trying to seriously gaslight us into believing nobody complained about the economy during the pandemic and supply chain issues? Edited April 5 by BeaverFever 1 2 Quote
robosmith Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 29 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Pfft On a 5-year basis.Yeah no girl is ugly if you zoom out far enough, eh? Also are tou try to seriously gaslight us into believing nobody complained about the economy during the pandemic and supply chain issues? West doesn't understand the difference between a sideways moving market and one that declines precipitously in two days based on the whims of ONE MAN. 🤮 1 Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 Harold Wilson, a UK PM, once said that “a week is a long time in politics”. Two years is an eternity. Trump won’t be given that long to sort things out even by the cult followers in his own party. 1 hour ago, Legato said: ..>>>>>>>>>>>Whoosh>>>>>>>>>>>>>>doink. Just ask robo about his IRA. I did get the joke. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 On 4/3/2025 at 10:34 PM, Nationalist said: And? Lol...good thing my investments didn't suffer, eh? I know mine did because I’ve seen the names of the companies I’m in going down, down, down but I just can’t bear to look. It will probably take a few weeks for me to summon up the courage. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 2 hours ago, Aristides said: The markets losing ten percent of their value in two days with no end in sight is now projection. You really are in la la land. No. I'm not in la la land. Why do you think I didn't expect a reaction from the markets? More accurately, a negative reaction. I explained, before he was elected, that tariffs may or may not cause a rise in cost to consumer. I also said that long term, tariffs drive up domestic production. Two days is nothing. Do like me, see the opportunity and buy the shìt out of everything. 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Hodad Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 30 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: No. I'm not in la la land. Why do you think I didn't expect a reaction from the markets? More accurately, a negative reaction. I explained, before he was elected, that tariffs may or may not cause a rise in cost to consumer. I also said that long term, tariffs drive up domestic production. Two days is nothing. Do like me, see the opportunity and buy the shìt out of everything. You certainly do buy a lot of bullshit. Raising the cost to import goods may or may not make the cost to consumers go up? Jeebus. That was a huge mystery. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: No. I'm not in la la land. Why do you think I didn't expect a reaction from the markets? More accurately, a negative reaction. Because your understanding of economics is divorced from reality. Strange that you cite that here when you were OBVIOUSLY WRONG. 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: I explained, before he was elected, that tariffs may or may not cause a rise in cost to consumer. Only in the very limited circumstances when the vendor in the tariffed country is willing to eat the cost, which is something you CAN NEVER COUNT ON. 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: I also said that long term, tariffs drive up domestic production. Two days is nothing. Do like me, see the opportunity and buy the shìt out of everything. In the long term, we're all dead. Clearly market traders are expecting far more damage than your delusions. 1 Quote
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