Carney Swings Housing Hammer Far Left of Jughead

[cannuck]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/federal-election-2025/party-platforms/article/liberals-promise-to-build-nearly-500000-homes-per-year-create-new-housing-entity/

Thought I had seen it all when a Wall Street insider sits as an unelected Prime Minister of Canada.  Then this guy moves so far over to the left he makes the NDP look middle of the road.

There is not a government owned or run business (or even their own programmes) that is anything but totally screwed up because of the pork barreling, ineptitude and outright corruption that is 100% guaranteed to cause every such effort to end in total collapse and massive losses.  Meanwhile the billions that the Little Turd paid to the media ensures the Carnival Side Show Carney gets by without so much as a whimper from the press.   Sadly: the other candidates are so devoid of intellectual prowess they haven't called him out either.

[TreeBeard]

2 minutes ago, cannuck said:

There is not a government owned or run business (or even their own programmes) that is anything but totally screwed up…

SaskPower?

How are they all screwed up?

[cannuck]

5 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

SaskPower?

How are they all screwed up?

Have done a LOT of work for them.   DEEPLY involved in a lot of corruption for many decades.  Wildly top heavy and ineffective bureaucracy.  With 3.4 Billion in unaccountable revenue, a lot of million$$ leak out of the cracks from and to many sources.

Edited April 1 by cannuck

[herbie]

Dogma of the right says govt can't run a popsicle stand. So if you're gullible enough to begin with that as a fact, you always reach the conclusion it fails at everything.
Add in the govt is inherently corrupt dogma of populism, you don't need AI, just a simple flowchart to predict what sheeple of the right will claim.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Dogma of the right says govt can't run a popsicle stand. So if you're gullible enough to begin with that as a fact, you always reach the conclusion it fails at everything.
Add in the govt is inherently corrupt dogma of populism, you don't need AI, just a simple flowchart to predict what sheeple of the right will claim.

Dogma of the left is that gov't should run everything 

Then they get mad when  you bring up venezuela or cuba. 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Dogma of the left is that gov't should run everything 

Then they get mad when  you bring up venezuela or cuba. 

We just laugh when you bring these up.

We just don't think the 1% should run the government or be anywhere near as close and influential as it is to public policy makers.

[ironstone]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

We just don't think the 1% should run the government or be anywhere near as close and influential as it is to public policy makers.

I'm pretty sure that 1% you speak of includes Mark Carney.

[eyeball]

5 minutes ago, ironstone said:

I'm pretty sure that 1% you speak of includes Mark Carney.

Yup.

My second reason for scepticism is that as a wealth fund manager a big part of his job for clients was avoiding taxes, now he's switching hats and becoming a tax collector.

Square that circle.

[CdnFox]

22 minutes ago, eyeball said:

We just laugh when you bring these up.

 

I know. It's your usual routine when you lose a discussion or can't rebut a point, you laugh and pretend you were just joking, 

you weren't of course   And we know you're crying inside. That's ok.  You cry if you need to girl 

But you're still wrong.  

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, eyeball said:

 

My second reason for scepticism is that as a wealth fund manager a big part of his job for clients was avoiding taxes, now he's switching hats and becoming a tax collector.

 

Is he? You think so? Trudeau made many of his friends very very rich.  You think carney won't be making sure he and his buddies have some nice loopholes to jump through while you struggle to pay the bills?

Don't be stupid, One way or another he's back out with his rich buddies in less than a decade and he'll be wanting them to owe him lots of very expensive favours. 

Maybe you didn't know this, but the phrase "setting the fox to guard the hen house" is NOT an endorsement of that policy. 

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

I know. It's your usual routine when you lose a discussion or can't rebut a point, you laugh and pretend you were just joking,

You're right, I really do want the 1% to run the government and get all cozy and influential with public policy makers.

Who wouldn't, no poor man ever gave anyone a job right?

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Is he? You think so? Trudeau made many of his friends very very rich.  You think carney won't be making sure he and his buddies have some nice loopholes to jump through while you struggle to pay the bills?

Don't be stupid, One way or another he's back out with his rich buddies in less than a decade and he'll be wanting them to owe him lots of very expensive favours. 

Maybe you didn't know this, but the phrase "setting the fox to guard the hen house" is NOT an endorsement of that policy. 

Gosh, you're so woke. You sound like a union organizer or something.

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You're right, I really do want the 1% to run the government and get all cozy and influential with public policy makers.

You do if it means hurting the conservatives. At the end of the day thats what you care about most

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Who wouldn't, no poor man ever gave anyone a job right?

That's right - only rich liberals can bborrow enough trillions to pay for people to do nothing

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Gosh, you're so woke. You sound like a union organizer or something.

Well the unions are all going for PP this time around.  

 

[eyeball]

Just now, CdnFox said:

You do if it means hurting the conservatives. At the end of the day thats what you care about most

I'm more concerned about the harm PP will do pandering to the freak show that makes up so much of the base of his support.

[CdnFox]

22 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I'm more concerned about the harm PP will do pandering to the freak show that makes up so much of the base of his support.

No you're not. You're well aware that's not an issue and conservatives aren't republicans. 

ANd if you WERE concerned you'd be more concerned that Carney rents one of kushner's big buildings in the states, gave musk his seed money for x and said something to donald that has donald gushing over him  as if  he was putin or rocket man. 

SO no.  you're not more concerned about any of that. 

[eyeball]

43 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

SO no.  you're not more concerned about any of that. 

I've made my concerns about Carney known, he hasn't done anything to win my support - not being PP, Trump or Trudeau certainly doesn't cut it.

[cannuck]

5 hours ago, herbie said:

Dogma of the right says govt can't run a popsicle stand. So if you're gullible enough to begin with that as a fact, you always reach the conclusion it fails at everything.
Add in the govt is inherently corrupt dogma of populism, you don't need AI, just a simple flowchart to predict what sheeple of the right will claim.

Thats not populism, that is first hand experience of someone who has participated in investigations.

[herbie]

Oh noes a housing program like tha commie simp Mackenzie-King did for veterans! Suppose we can all easily come up with 'only' $950,000 for a house within a day, but I don't know about those brave soldiers circling it on snowmobiles under a proud flag, the kids on their sleds pi$$ me off enough as it is.

3 minutes ago, cannuck said:

Thats not populism, that is first hand experience of someone who has participated in investigations.

Tell us all about it, Elon.

[cannuck]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Dogma of the left is that gov't should run everything 

Then they get mad when  you bring up venezuela or cuba. 

Hate to have to tell you this, but "western democaracies" are just as inept and corrupt - just for more sophisticated at hiding it.

What is important to realize is that the role of government in almost every country is to dispense "privilege" - in ways that are 100% tied to "reward" - usually in more sophisticated places after leaving elected or appointed office.

The #1 rule of good government is to ELIMINATE privilege - and precious few elected, appointed or inherited government have ever risen to that level

[Nationalist]

15 hours ago, eyeball said:

We just laugh when you bring these up.

We just don't think the 1% should run the government or be anywhere near as close and influential as it is to public policy makers.

Yet you'll vote for a carney.

Well...there goes your credibility.

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Yet you'll vote for a carney.

Well...there goes your credibility.

No I won't. Voting Liberal in my riding will only benefit the Conservatives. I haven't voted for a Liberal in 50 years and I certainly have no interest in boosting the Conservatives chances of winning a majority.

That said, I do hope Poilievre manages to narrow Carney's lead before voting day. I'm hoping for a nail biter and minority result that forces negotiation and cooperation on Parliament.

Every party and leader are already rowing in the same we're-all-against-Trump / Team Canada direction. Cooperation should be easy.

[Nationalist]

37 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No I won't. Voting Liberal in my riding will only benefit the Conservatives. I haven't voted for a Liberal in 50 years and I certainly have no interest in boosting the Conservatives chances of winning a majority.

That said, I do hope Poilievre manages to narrow Carney's lead before voting day. I'm hoping for a nail biter and minority result that forces negotiation and cooperation on Parliament.

Every party and leader are already rowing in the same we're-all-against-Trump / Team Canada direction. Cooperation should be easy.

So you're wasting a vote? Huh...

[eyeball]

22 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

So you're wasting a vote? Huh...

Not if the result is a minority, my vote will have hit the bullseye. This might be one of those elections where everyone back east will be up way past their bedtimes waiting on results from ridings like mine.

[Nationalist]

14 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Not if the result is a minority, my vote will have hit the bullseye. This might be one of those elections where everyone back east will be up way past their bedtimes waiting on results from ridings like mine.

Huh...a "shitvote"

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

Not if the result is a minority, my vote will have hit the bullseye. This might be one of those elections where everyone back east will be up way past their bedtimes waiting on results from ridings like mine.

This is going to be decided back east. Either carney's support collapses in ontario or it doesn't. 

And there will be no cooperation between parties regardless of the outcome. If the cpc wins the libs will do everything humanly possible to take them down as quickly as they can and vice versa. It will be unstable. And the ndp stands to be wiped out, so the bock will liekly hold the balance of power. And they won't be doing any deals with the libs, they'll look at eveything as a one off and they'll want the libs to look as bad as possible so they can take control back next election.