blackbird Posted March 18 Author Report Posted March 18 1 minute ago, Chrissy1979 said: You guys aren't conservatives and nobody loves big government intervention and control of society more than you Trump fascists. You're another liar on here. Nobody or practically nobody in Canada likes Trump or what he does. So right there you are totally out of the real world. I suspect you are an American Democrat. That is a useless discussion here because Canadians do not support Trump and Conservatives in Canada do not like or agree with Trump. He is in his own world Quote
blackbird Posted March 18 Author Report Posted March 18 2 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: What investment has been driven away, specifically and what policies drove it away? The oil and gas and pipeline industry has been greatly cut down in Canada by Liberals with the support of the NDP. They killed pipelines and put heavy regulations on the energy industry. This costs Canada billions of dollars in lost revenue and taxes. Quote
TreeBeard Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 4 minutes ago, blackbird said: What matters in politics is one's ideology on personal freedom versus government control. Do you think there should be blasphemy laws in Canada? Say a movie depicting Jesus as the devil…. Should that kind of blasphemy be banned in Canada? Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 (edited) 4 minutes ago, blackbird said: You're another liar on here. Nobody or practically nobody in Canada likes Trump or what he does. So right there you are totally out of the real world. I suspect you are an American Democrat. That is a useless discussion here because Canadians do not support Trump and Conservatives in Canada do not like or agree with Trump. He is in his own world You're trying to deny you were a Trump supporter now that it's unpopular? How brave you are! 2 minutes ago, blackbird said: The oil and gas and pipeline industry has been greatly cut down in Canada by Liberals with the support of the NDP. They killed pipelines and put heavy regulations on the energy industry. This costs Canada billions of dollars in lost revenue and taxes. The Liberals literally built them a pipeline, liar. Edited March 18 by Chrissy1979 1 Quote
blackbird Posted March 18 Author Report Posted March 18 Just now, Chrissy1979 said: You're trying to deny you were a Trump supporter now that it's unpopular? How brave you are! No I was doubtful of Trump before he was elected again. Quote
eyeball Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 3 minutes ago, blackbird said: What matters in politics is one's ideology on personal freedom versus government control. Yup, these are pretty much the things that truly matter to me alright and don't forgot transparency and accountability too. 3 minutes ago, blackbird said: You obviously blindly believe government is your savior and you trust them for everything. Where on Earth did you get this notion? I certainly believe government is a necessary institution but all this saviour blind trust stuff you're talking about is something that's rattling around your brain not mine. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
blackbird Posted March 18 Author Report Posted March 18 4 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Do you think there should be blasphemy laws in Canada? Say a movie depicting Jesus as the devil…. Should that kind of blasphemy be banned in Canada? Sure. Why not? Do you think the Devil should be helped? Quote
blackbird Posted March 18 Author Report Posted March 18 1 minute ago, eyeball said: Where on Earth did you get this notion? I certainly believe government is a necessary institution but all this saviour blind trust stuff you're talking about is something that's rattling around your brain not mine. I think it well known you seem to defend the Liberals and oppose the Conservatives. If you support the Liberals or NDP, then you must believe in government as your savior. Quote
eyeball Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 2 minutes ago, blackbird said: If you support the Liberals or NDP, then you must believe in government as your savior. Because your bible tells you so or some right wing politician? Did you ever consider they might be wrong or do you subscribe to blind trust? 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
TreeBeard Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 24 minutes ago, blackbird said: Sure. Why not? Do you think the Devil should be helped? So you aren’t for personal freedom at all. Blasphemy laws take away personal freedom and create a bigger, more intrusive government. Did you just lie when you said you were for personal freedom? 31 minutes ago, blackbird said: The oil and gas and pipeline industry has been greatly cut down in Canada by Liberals with the support of the NDP. They killed pipelines and put heavy regulations on the energy industry. This costs Canada billions of dollars in lost revenue and taxes. Trudeau bought a pipeline. https://globalnews.ca/news/10019634/trans-mountain-pipeline-cost-analysis/ 1 Quote
Nefarious Banana Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 1 hour ago, ironstone said: Trump is America first and I hope PP will put Canada first. Nothing wrong with that. It's certainly preferable to WEF first😉 Or Trudeau's . . . 'what will make me look good' To an 'outsider' . . . it would appear that Trudeau hated Canada, and would do anything to sandbag this country. 2 Quote
blackbird Posted March 18 Author Report Posted March 18 6 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Did you just lie when you said you were for personal freedom? No, I didn't lie. You know there is no such thing as freedom of do or say anything one wishes. Do you think it is legal to shout "fire" in a crowded theatre when there is no fire? Personal freedom from government control in every aspect of society is a reasonable expectation. That kind of freedom has nothing to do with controlling disrespectful speech or a movie that would insult a segment of society for no good reason. We are talking about apples and oranges. Quote
blackbird Posted March 18 Author Report Posted March 18 14 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: 46 minutes ago, blackbird said: The oil and gas and pipeline industry has been greatly cut down in Canada by Liberals with the support of the NDP. They killed pipelines and put heavy regulations on the energy industry. This costs Canada billions of dollars in lost revenue and taxes. Trudeau bought a pipeline. We already talked about that extensively. You must know the reason they bought Trans Mountain Pipeline was because they had no choice. It already existed and needed to be expanded and was the only pipeline to the west coast and provide fuel to western Canada. Seems you can't understand a simple fact that it was a necessity as it was the only pipeline that already existed and a large population was dependent on it. Quote
CdnFox Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 1 hour ago, Chrissy1979 said: Maybe they're just full of people who don't get fooled by Russian memes. Well that's largely true, but the problem is they are also people who easily are fooled by woke leftist memes And that's even worse Quote
TreeBeard Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 25 minutes ago, blackbird said: We already talked about that extensively. You must know the reason they bought Trans Mountain Pipeline was because they had no choice. It already existed and needed to be expanded and was the only pipeline to the west coast and provide fuel to western Canada. Seems you can't understand a simple fact that it was a necessity as it was the only pipeline that already existed and a large population was dependent on it. They bought a pipeline to ship more oil. You were wrong. 30 minutes ago, blackbird said: Personal freedom from government control in every aspect of society is a reasonable expectation. That kind of freedom has nothing to do with controlling disrespectful speech or a movie that would insult a segment of society for no good reason. We are talking about apples and oranges. Making it illegal to offend Jesus is controlling speech. It is antithetical to freedom of expression. 1 Quote
blackbird Posted March 18 Author Report Posted March 18 11 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Making it illegal to offend Jesus is controlling speech. It is antithetical to freedom of expression. No, I disagree. Freedom of expression has its limits as you already know. Quote
blackbird Posted March 18 Author Report Posted March 18 14 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: They bought a pipeline to ship more oil. You were wrong No, I wasn't wrong. Read what I said. I said it was to expand (the quantity of oil being shipped). It was a necessity. You don't seem to understand why the government had to purchase it. You can read it on wikipedia. Quote
TreeBeard Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 Just now, blackbird said: No, I disagree. Freedom of expression has its limits as you already know. Yelling fire can get people killed. Hurting your feeling cuz you love the Jesus does no harm. Quote
Radiorum Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 For a while there, I thought I would vote for Poilievre. We needed some sanity following Trudeau. But then I heard Poilievre railing against the "Woke." Imported cultural war. It stuck me as a manipulative action, just like Trump uses "the Woke" to manipulate his base. Creating an enemy where none exists. I don't want an elected leader to manipulate me into outrage. Just govern with wisdom and fairness. I like what I see with Carney. 1 Quote
blackbird Posted March 18 Author Report Posted March 18 39 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Yelling fire can get people killed. Hurting your feeling cuz you love the Jesus does no harm. When people go to a public place such as a coffee shop, they have a right not to be insulted by some guy in the next table. Get off your high horse. You don't have a unlimited right to insult people in public places. Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 4 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said: It's not like Polievre says all the same things...and has all the same supporters. Maybe you should be brave and accept who you are. https://fb.watch/ypvajI4cxX/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v Even the leftists here admit that the media is completely biased to a farcical extent in Canada. PP was absolutely correct to call out our fake news. Only clueless sycophants are distressed by that comment. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
TreeBeard Posted March 18 Report Posted March 18 20 minutes ago, blackbird said: When people go to a public place such as a coffee shop, they have a right not to be insulted by some guy in the next table. Get off your high horse. You don't have an unlimited right to insult people in public places. I asked if a movie insulting Jesus should be banned. You can choose to watch a movie or not, can’t you? 22 minutes ago, blackbird said: they have a right not to be insulted by some guy in the next table. If they insult someone at the next table, should that be a crime? Quote
blackbird Posted March 19 Author Report Posted March 19 16 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: I asked if a movie insulting Jesus should be banned. You can choose to watch a movie or not, can’t you? If they insult someone at the next table, should that be a crime? You tell a lot about yourself. Quote
blackbird Posted March 19 Author Report Posted March 19 33 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: I asked if a movie insulting Jesus should be banned. You can choose to watch a movie or not, can’t you? Looks like you are trying to start a debate to insult or mock Christianity; I don't have time for that nonsense. Quote
herbie Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 Oh the Liberals are the liars, eh? PP's reliance on attack ads, copying Trump slogan based campaign, vaguest of (unfulfillable) promises, gutting of enviro standards, promises of tax breaks for the wealthy, banning reporters, railing against modern social norms, spouting how eveything is woke, etc is nothing like Trump. Yeah, you can buy that if you want. I mean, shit, the guy took 2-3 weeks to decide if he'd stand up for the country he wants to run. Don't worry, one day he'll be old, wrinkly and can frown and sneer constantly so no one notices his beady, untrustworthy little eyes. 1 Quote
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