CouchPotato Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Goddess said: They seem like a really nice couple, very moral and ethical when it comes to politics. They really do. They both are very likeable, and they aren't sensational or anything. I almost feel like they are my friends now. A lot of these independent Canadian media personalities are really personable and down to earth. Edited March 24 by CouchPotato Quote
Michael Hardner Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 36 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: No they don't. Poilievre sounds nothing like Trump. He is not very inflammatory and he usually uses facts and stats to back up things he says. I'm going to stop you right there. Trump calls his Democrat opponents Marxists, and Poilievre followed the same pattern. 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Goddess Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 6 minutes ago, CouchPotato said: They really do. They both are very likeable, and they aren't sensational or anything. I almost feel like they are my friends now. A lot of these independent Canadian media personalities are really personable and down to earth. I really liked their interview with Garnet Genuis about accountability in gov't. Mr. Genuis talked about how, since Canadian gov't's were first formed there's been "gentlemen's agreements" about what is proper to do and what is not. But the Liberals have just blown past all those gentlemen's agreements. He said himself and Michael Barrett already have legislation on the go to bring more accountability to parliamentarians and close up the loopholes the Liberals have been using. I think that says a lot about the Conservative party because they could just let the loopholes exist and then use them when they're in power. You should always imagine the power you give any gov't, in the hands of the party you don't favour. I see Lib supporters on this site all the time - they defend everything the Libs do, no matter what. But they'd be screaming blue murder if it was the Cons doing the same things. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
CouchPotato Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said: I'm going to stop you right there. Trump calls his Democrat opponents Marxists, and Poilievre followed the same pattern. Oh ok, it's settled then. 1 Quote
Goddess Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said: I'm going to stop you right there. Trump calls his Democrat opponents Marxists, and Poilievre followed the same pattern. And Trudeau has done the same thing. There is too much of this in politics on both sides of the border. I always find it telling that you never seem to be able to identify it in the Liberals, though. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
CouchPotato Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 3 minutes ago, Goddess said: I really liked their interview with Garnet Genuis about accountability in gov't. Not sure if I have seen that one, but they have had some good guests. The interview with the former CSIS guy was great. I really liked when they had Larry Brock on. Quote
Goddess Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 1 minute ago, CouchPotato said: Not sure if I have seen that one, but they have had some good guests. The interview with the former CSIS guy was great. I really liked when they had Larry Brock on. Oh ya, the CSIS guy interview was good. When they mentioned the "11 parliamentarians and senators" implicated in foreign interference and he said, "No, it's more like 50." I was like......😮 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Goddess Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 Here is the CSIS guy interview if anyone is interested: Former CSIS Agent BLASTS Hogue Report - "GO BACK AND CHECK AGAIN!" CBC PULLED THIS Interview Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
eyeball Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: There was no science on that website. LMAO! You wouldn't recognize science if someone hit you over the head with it. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 1 hour ago, eyeball said: LMAO! You wouldn't recognize science if someone hit you over the head with it. LOL well at least you admit there wasn't any And that you thought it would take 'two years' to sift through Just post up a research paper and lets look at it. You can explain it to me LOL There isn't one and that's just the way it is. Dozens of people here have asked dozens of posters including yourself to present ANY scientific research that shows it's a crisis or that canada can do anything practical about it and not one of you lefties can produce a single thing, Very 'flat earth' of you Quote
eyeball Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 19 minutes ago, CdnFox said: There isn't one and that's just the way it is. If there was then you'd be asking for proof there's consensus on the definition of crisis then the degree of crisis is it dire, severe, extreme and on and on ad nauseam. International organizations like the IPCC and others representing scientists from several nations around the world inform us there's a crisis and point to the body of research assembled to provide evidence. If you have real evidence there isn't a crisis you should let them know. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 1 minute ago, eyeball said: If there was then you'd be asking for proof there's consensus on the definition of crisis then the degree of crisis is it dire, severe, extreme and on and on ad nauseam. I love that you're now having fantasies about what i might say to a fictional research paper that never existed LOL Tell me i live rent free in your head without telling me Its' pretty hard for even ME to say what i'd say to something that doesn't exist. At the end of the day you're the one claiming it's a crisis. So it would be up to you to demonstrate that the paper in question clearly demonstrated that it was a crisis by a reasonable definition of the word. And don't forget the other one, the one that shows canada can do something that would actually have a meaningful impact on climate change. Those are the magic questions, "is there a climate crisis and if so is there anything that canada can actually do that would have a significant impact". Alas, we will never know. It would appear that no such papers exist and i find it absolutely hilarious that you're desperately trying to defend them even tho they're not real and you can't provide one LOLOLOL Quote
Michael Hardner Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 7 hours ago, Goddess said: And Trudeau has done the same thing. There is too much of this in politics on both sides of the border. I always find it telling that you never seem to be able to identify it in the Liberals, though. Trudeau called somebody Marxist? I've never supported Trudeau, and I do see problems with the status quo but Trumpian style politics is definitely a new thing. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
CdnFox Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Trudeau called somebody Marxist? I've never supported Trudeau, and I do see problems with the status quo but Trumpian style politics is definitely a new thing. It's not even remotely close to a new thing. Remember soldiers in our streets we're not making this up? Hidden agenda? Calling sheer a white supremacist or calling O'Toole an anti-vaxxer? How bout trudeau calling a jewish conservative a nazi? or claiming that all the people who didn't agree about the vax were misogynists and bigots? And that they shouldn't be tolerated? There is NOTHING new about this kind of attack style nonsense and the liberals were the ones who brought it on to the scene and have been the worst perpetrators by far. By far. You set the tone. now you're mad others follow your lead. Quote
Legato Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Trudeau called somebody Marxist? I've never supported Trudeau, and I do see problems with the status quo but Trumpian style politics is definitely a new thing. What's Trumpian style politics? Quote
CdnFox Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 2 hours ago, Legato said: What's Trumpian style politics? As far as Mike's concerned it's when the other side does something that the liberals have done even longer but that he wishes the conservatives wouldn't . When the liberals do it he calls it statesmanship Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 As we can see in these very pages a lot of Canadian Tories like Trump and his policies. It’s up to PP to prove he has made the break with those people and wants to be a leader for all in this national crisis but his heart isn’t in it. He’s far more comfortable bashing Liberals. Quote
CdnFox Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 1 minute ago, SpankyMcFarland said: As we can see in these very pages a lot of Canadian Tories like Trump and his policies. It’s up to PP to prove he has made the break with those people and wants to be a leader for all in this national crisis but his heart isn’t in it. He’s far more comfortable bashing Liberals. It's not about making a break with the people. It's not like the basic principles behind what trump is doing are wrong. Why shouldn't the government spend less money? Why shouldn't you have a balance budget? Why shouldn't we have an effective immigration policy? The issue is that trump is an extreme version of that and divisive. All Poilievre has to show is that he has a reasonable and sensible plan that will deliver results and that he's got nothing to do with trump despite the fact that the liberals are absolutely desperate to make that fake connection just as the democrats in the states were desperate to connect Trump to Hitler. I mean have you got a special reason why old people shouldn't get a tax break? Is there some reason you feel homes shouldn't be more affordable? Are those anti-canadian values or something? The only reason carney is a head right now is because for whatever reason people perceive that he would be a better choice to deal with trump. That's what Poilievre has to counter. That and he's got that new leader shine, and the NDP voters believe that he can defeat Poilievre. If he beats the first one, the second one will tend to wear off on its own extremely quickly and that will lead to the third one being null and void. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: It's not about making a break with the people. It's not like the basic principles behind what trump is doing are wrong. Why shouldn't the government spend less money? Why shouldn't you have a balance budget? Why shouldn't we have an effective immigration policy? The issue is that trump is an extreme version of that and divisive. All Poilievre has to show is that he has a reasonable and sensible plan that will deliver results and that he's got nothing to do with trump despite the fact that the liberals are absolutely desperate to make that fake connection just as the democrats in the states were desperate to connect Trump to Hitler. I mean have you got a special reason why old people shouldn't get a tax break? Is there some reason you feel homes shouldn't be more affordable? Are those anti-canadian values or something? The only reason carney is a head right now is because for whatever reason people perceive that he would be a better choice to deal with trump. That's what Poilievre has to counter. That and he's got that new leader shine, and the NDP voters believe that he can defeat Poilievre. If he beats the first one, the second one will tend to wear off on its own extremely quickly and that will lead to the third one being null and void. You like Trump’s policies on Canada? We are in a national crisis that may require enormous funding to support industries under attack. There should be no tax breaks at the moment. Quote
eyeball Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 14 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: We are in a national crisis that may require enormous funding to support industries under attack. There should be no tax breaks at the moment. Tax cuts sell. It seems the question of whether an outsider like Carney knows how to be a politician matters in the scheme of things is out of the way. He's mastered in a matter of a couple of months what PP has spent a lifetime trying to perfect. So the question is do the skills Carney brings matter at the moment and can PP master them in time? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 11 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: You like Trump’s policies on Canada? Of course not, don't be silly. But I didn't vote for trump, I can't vote for trump, and trump has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about here which is the Canadian election. I do, however, appreciate the idea that he's trying to increase the amount of business done in the united states and he's trying to increase the number of products and services that are done there. While what trump is doing is not great for Canada, i can respect that he intends to improve america. We should be doing the same thing, if not in the same way. We should be learning to rely on ourselves, we should be increasing our own production here at home of many things and not relying on the Americans for it. We should be improving our own markets and growing our own businesses and making Canada a more attractive place to invest. We should be less reliant on the US and even other countries and produce more of what we need at home. Are you against those things for some reason? Do you think expanding our economy or encouraging Canadian production of things is bad? Explain why? You keep saying all these things like balanced budget and more insdustry at home is terrible but you're not really explaining yourself, Quote
blackbird Posted March 27 Author Report Posted March 27 (edited) 29 minutes ago, eyeball said: So the question is do the skills Carney brings matter at the moment What skills are you talking about? Carney is a globalist and climate change has been his profession for many years. How can that be good for Canada? He is working for the WEF, U.N. and Gretta crowd, not Canada. Read what his history is. Carney will continue the Liberal's attack on the oil and gas industry. Letters, March 27: Carney shows he'll attack oil and gas industry Edited March 27 by blackbird Quote
blackbird Posted March 27 Author Report Posted March 27 (edited) On 3/24/2025 at 3:10 AM, Michael Hardner said: Trumpian style politics is definitely a new thing. Can you explain how that is a thing in Canada? I think it is just a fake claim of the liberals that their opposition is Trumpian if that's what you're talking about. Give the proof. Carney has already proven he is an diehard climate warrior. Letters, March 27: Carney shows he'll attack oil and gas industry I guess it is "Trumpian" to defend our oil and gas industry and defend Canada. Edited March 27 by blackbird Quote
blackbird Posted March 27 Author Report Posted March 27 47 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: You like Trump’s policies on Canada? What Trump policies in Canada? You mean defending the oil and gas industry and build pipelines to sell energy world wide? Build the economy in Canada and stop the ridiculous carbon taxes that is hurting Canadians? Quote
eyeball Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 24 minutes ago, blackbird said: What skills are you talking about? Financial and economic skills. Does it matter if PP has these or not? Or do you think political skills matter more? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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