SpankyMcFarland Posted March 21 Report Posted March 21 So April 28 looks like the election date. For the Liberals I would use one of Mr. Chrétien’s lines: da bedder da soonAIRE. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 21 Report Posted March 21 3 hours ago, PIK said: More to do with Trudeaus policies, i would think. That would be my thought. It's restrictive to sell up here, they found a market in the states that was easier to access and more profitable, he didn't have to pay carbon taxes on their manufacturing and they paid less taxes on their business and guess what. Quote
PIK Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 On 3/20/2025 at 8:29 PM, SpankyMcFarland said: So April 28 looks like the election date. For the Liberals I would use one of Mr. Chrétien’s lines: da bedder da soonAIRE. Yup. Harper made that mistake in 2015. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
CdnFox Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 2 hours ago, PIK said: Yup. Harper made that mistake in 2015. For sure. He thought he had more money (which he did) so a longer campaign favoured him. Carney is cash light. And the more people see of him the less they like him. Short is better Quote
cougar Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 On 3/11/2025 at 11:17 AM, taxme said: For a guy like Trump, who has made billions of dollars and owns plenty of property, Don't give a rat's ass what he owns or what his dad owned. His only property is the 120kg of fat on him which will be converted into fertilizer in due course and I am likely to witness it. As for you and those on here supporting Trump, I think you should all be kicked out of the country immediately. Supporting foreign powers who threaten annexation is treason. Blackbird will likely lead the flock with you on the right and the rest behind in a V-shaped formation. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 (edited) 12 hours ago, cougar said: Don't give a rat's ass what he owns or what his dad owned. His only property is the 120kg of fat on him which will be converted into fertilizer in due course and I am likely to witness it. As for you and those on here supporting Trump, I think you should all be kicked out of the country immediately. Supporting foreign powers who threaten annexation is treason. Blackbird will likely lead the flock with you on the right and the rest behind in a V-shaped formation. Trump as a brilliant businessman is one of the many bizarre aspects of his cult. Yes, he portrayed a successful entrepreneur on TV but for some reason I have to remind the true believers that was just acting. Just ask yourself how many Trumps could any economy afford and you begin to get a measure of his abilities. Edited March 22 by SpankyMcFarland 1 Quote
PIK Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 9 hours ago, CdnFox said: For sure. He thought he had more money (which he did) so a longer campaign favoured him. Carney is cash light. And the more people see of him the less they like him. Short is better And in liberal fashion, he's out campaigning on the tax payers dime. They are just so slimy. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
CdnFox Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 2 hours ago, PIK said: And in liberal fashion, he's out campaigning on the tax payers dime. They are just so slimy. But consistent What's really killing me is this thing where he promises whatever PP does 2 days later. How dishonest is that? Quote
PIK Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 27 minutes ago, CdnFox said: But consistent What's really killing me is this thing where he promises whatever PP does 2 days later. How dishonest is that? Just shows they don't a plan. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
CdnFox Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 6 minutes ago, PIK said: Just shows they don't a plan. Well what it shows is they don't feel a need to. They feel that Canadians are stupid enough to believe anything they say and all they need to do is wait for the conservatives to say what they'll do and then promise to do that plus a little bit extra the next day. Poilievre announces a new military base in the north, carney announces TWO new military bases in the north a couple days later. Trudeau did exactly the same thing last election with O'toole. Hopefully PP has planned for that this time. It's like that game children play where they just repeat what you say. It can be beaten tho, i would say one of the best ways is borrowing harper's winning 2006 strategy of "a policy a day", where literally every day you have a new policy announcement and explain why it ties in with your overall plan. If he just keeps announcing what you've already announced it'll be much more obvious and no matter what you're always the fresh thing for the media to get quotes on and the like. One of Erin's big mistakes was to have NOTHING in his pockets for the back half of the campaign. So when he slipped up in the debates the media just kept poking that and constantly asking where kenney was and erin had nothing to change the channel with. PP has to be making new and exciting policy announcements right up till 3 days before the election, 1 Quote
Barquentine Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 So you guys keep saying Carney is saying the same thing as Poilevre. If that's the case why the huge switch over to Carney? If they have the same policies why wouldn't people stay with the Pc's? I have a good idea why, but I'm guessing you guys will blame the media or some hidden hand with a nefarious agenda. C'mon, give me a good laugh. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 5 minutes ago, Barquentine said: So you guys keep saying Carney is saying the same thing as Poilevre. If that's the case why the huge switch over to Carney? I don't know that there really has been. But what this is about right now is more personality and posturing than anything to do with policy. People hated Justin Trudeau. Passionately. Regularly voted worst prime minister in history by a land slide Most people weren't fond of Poilievre as a person. But they did like his policies and they did like what he was saying was wrong with Canada and that he would fix it. And at the end of the day he was the only real choice other than justin Now there's a new flash in the pan, getting tons of hype from the media about what a great new choice this is and suddenly they don't have to choose between Justin or Poilievre. Remember that his popularity soared before he mentioned even a single policy. But it was quite clear from the polling that that support was a mild wide and a millimeter thin. Now as people actually pay attention things will change. It's already beginning to start because he's done poorly at a couple of interviews and said some stupid things, and if he doesn't run a very tight campaign every single ounce of his goodwill will evaporate and people will be disappointed which means he will have one hell of a time getting his vote out at all. Right now the lion's share of his support is coming from the NDP, not the conservatives. When you drill down the conservatives are still in the neighborhood of about 40 -42 percent. but the NDP have fallen to about 9%, possibly lower. , the NDP which had remained after many went to the CPC are now dogpiling on Kearney as the anti-conservative choice that could prevent a Poilievre government The millisecond that that falters support will bleed back to the NDP, the liberals will be seen to begin crashing in the polls, the shine will have worn off and the liberals will be doing fairly well to get 50 seats And as the Stark difference in policy preparedness comes into play it's going to hurt them even more. Carney went with a short election to try and become Prime Minister before people got a good look at him, and that was probably the right strategy, but probably not good enough Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 For Liberals, Canada has a hard core of tribal Tories that are around 35% of the population and will vote for them no matter what. The rest of the population is potentially persuadable. Going with Carney was a brilliant move as long this remains a Trump election. Quote
Barquentine Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: People hated Justin Trudeau. Passionately. Regularly voted worst prime minister in history by a land slide Most people weren't fond of Poilievre as a person. But they did like his policies and they did like what he was saying was wrong with Canada and that he would fix it. And at the end of the day he was the only real choice other than justin I'm ok with this and the rest of your post. 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 5 hours ago, Barquentine said: So you guys keep saying Carney is saying the same thing as Poilevre. If that's the case why the huge switch over to Carney? If they have the same policies why wouldn't people stay with the Pc's? I have a good idea why, but I'm guessing you guys will blame the media or some hidden hand with a nefarious agenda. C'mon, give me a good laugh. Well it does not take a rocket scientist to figure that out, PP platform was working for him in fact at one time well over 20 points ahead , PP platform makes sense it is the direction we need to go, why not steal it...this will sort itself out during the election as things will be moving fast and furious, to fast for carney to steal everything... But you have not said anything about why is it they don't have a plan, or the Liberals can't think of one, that does not include major Carbon taxes, which are unpopular...with everyone.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
TreeBeard Posted March 23 Author Report Posted March 23 5 hours ago, Army Guy said: PP platform was working for him in fact at one time well over 20 points ahead It was Trudeau's unpopularity working for PP, not his platform. That’s the obvious thing. People were waiting for someone else to vote for, and they jumped on the first viable option. Quote
eyeball Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 6 hours ago, Army Guy said: ...why is it they don't have a plan, or the Liberals can't think of one, that does not include major Carbon taxes, which are unpopular...with everyone.... Perhaps they're just sticking with a plan to take action against AGW. If at first you don't succeed try harder. I'm still holding out some hope the issue of whether AGW is bullshit or not will factor into the election. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Army Guy Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 13 hours ago, TreeBeard said: It was Trudeau's unpopularity working for PP, not his platform. That’s the obvious thing. People were waiting for someone else to vote for, and they jumped on the first viable option. Which is why Carney has stolen most of it....i mean come on just be honest....Liberals were slamming carbon capture tech as a voodoo science today it is in Carney platform...building arctic defenses a PP idea, pipelines, and energy corridor a PP idea... there is a lot more , don't get me wrong all great ideas, but whatever carney has come up with by himself is not all that important...all of this will become more evident during the campaign.... This is just Justins liberals with new lipstick.... we have already had 8 plus years to make an impression on Canadians and they failed... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
TreeBeard Posted March 23 Author Report Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: Which is why Carney has stolen most of it He stole it to take away every PP talking point, and to make this about his Trump-like rhetoric and not actual platforms. Thats good politics. Bad policy, in my opinion, but probably good politics. You should be praising him for his good policy, but it’s not really about policy with you partisans. 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: Justins liberals How is that rhetoric working for the Cons? Is it giving them the rebound they need? 😂 Quote
Army Guy Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 4 hours ago, TreeBeard said: He stole it to take away every PP talking point, and to make this about his Trump-like rhetoric and not actual platforms. Thats good politics. Bad policy, in my opinion, but probably good politics. You should be praising him for his good policy, but it’s not really about policy with you partisans. How is that rhetoric working for the Cons? Is it giving them the rebound they need? 😂 Again your opinion, my opinion is he is to lazy or non imaginative to make his own policies...what is he going to do if he becomes PM....which policies are trump like.... I'm glad he is using PP ideas there are good for the country, but soon he is going to have to make up his own...But hey the world will know they are PP policies... And yes it is all about policy....just wondering why you support a party that can't make their own policy and are the same party as the last 8 years, just with some new lipstick....the same party that has brought to where we are right now....weak enough for trump to pick an easy target... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
TreeBeard Posted March 24 Author Report Posted March 24 9 minutes ago, Army Guy said: But hey the world will know they are PP policies When he is Prime Minister with a majority government and PP is ousted as leader due to the epic meltdown of support, do you think he’ll worry about if the remaining Conservative partisans are screeching on Repolitics that he stole his ideas from PP? 11 minutes ago, Army Guy said: just wondering why you support a party that can't make their own policy and are the same party as the last 8 years, just with some new lipstick....the same party that has brought to where we are right now....weak enough for trump to pick an easy target... where did you get that I support the Liberal Party? Quote
Army Guy Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 51 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: When he is Prime Minister with a majority government and PP is ousted as leader due to the epic meltdown of support, do you think he’ll worry about if the remaining Conservative partisans are screeching on Repolitics that he stole his ideas from PP? where did you get that I support the Liberal Party? If that happens then i would say no it does not care what PP says or does....but thats a pretty big ask...liberal majority... well sir you're the one jumping up and down defending Carney, a strange thing to do if you support NDP....which even weakens you case even more a vote for the NDP is a wasted unless the liberals run another minority government...but even then i doubt NDP is going to survive with enough seats to make up the difference... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
PIK Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 20 hours ago, TreeBeard said: It was Trudeau's unpopularity working for PP, not his platform. That’s the obvious thing. People were waiting for someone else to vote for, and they jumped on the first viable option. Yes, people are looking for change, but Carney is not change. And it's showing. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 Premier Smith continues her sterling work for the Liberal Party. Quote Alberta Premier Danielle Smith is under fire for an interview she did March 8 with Breitbart in the U.S. over controversial remarks that appear to suggest she asked the Trump administration to lay off their tariff threats until after a Canadian federal election in the hopes of seeing Pierre Poilievre and the Conservatives elected. https://www.ctvnews.ca/calgary/article/lets-just-put-things-on-pause-alberta-premier-under-fire-for-breitbart-interview/ Quote
CdnFox Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 1 hour ago, TreeBeard said: When he is Prime Minister with a majority government and PP is ousted as leader due to the epic meltdown of support, do you think he’ll worry about if the remaining Conservative partisans are screeching on Repolitics that he stole his ideas from PP? Oh hell, i doubt he'll even follow them. He'll promise and then fail to deliver just as justin did, Quote where did you get that I support the Liberal Party? Oh give it up. 16 minutes ago, PIK said: Yes, people are looking for change, but Carney is not change. And it's showing. I think it will show the more they see him. His speech today was quite good, but his interview was horrible. like really horrible. And that's one of several now. As the media questions him and he has to respond ,and in the debates, he's not going to perform well. Quote
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