eyeball Posted March 28 Report Posted March 28 19 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I know i know - you hate it when you get caught defending your beloved liberals when they can't be defended You say that to everyone, it's hardly original. You never get it that we're merely mocking the ridiculous criticisms your slavish partisan adoration of PP and the right wing in general inspire you to make. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
PIK Posted March 28 Report Posted March 28 4 hours ago, eyeball said: likely a fact at all. Fact Check: Image of Carney, Maxwell and Hanks on a beach is likely AI, say experts https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/image-carney-maxwell-hanks-beach-is-likely-ai-say-experts-2025-03-26/ PP partisans sure seem to be getting desperate. You people can't help but make Carney's path to power a cakewalk. You must be on Canada's side subconsciously. Pic is fake, but i don't think they denied that they were at the same get together. But politicians can't control who's in these groups. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
PIK Posted March 28 Report Posted March 28 I think carney has a secret agenda. He can't be trusted. Just listening to him, he's slimy. But PP will make mince meat of him in the debates. He will draw the pure arrogance out of carney for all to see. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
TreeBeard Posted March 28 Author Report Posted March 28 4 minutes ago, PIK said: I think carney has a secret agenda. He can't be trusted. Just listening to him, he's slimy. But PP will make mince meat of him in the debates. He will draw the pure arrogance out of carney for all to see. How well did Trudeau do in the debates prior to each of his election wins? I recall him being average to shitty. Quote
ironstone Posted March 28 Report Posted March 28 2 hours ago, eyeball said: They can afford that and they're still whining? Why does Alberta have to fork over billions to Quebec in the first place? Quebec has more people, they are also rich in natural resources, and they are not landlocked. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
eyeball Posted March 28 Report Posted March 28 25 minutes ago, ironstone said: Why does Alberta have to fork over billions to Quebec in the first place? Quebec has more people, they are also rich in natural resources, and they are not landlocked. Shit happens? There must be a better reason though, you tell me man. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted March 28 Report Posted March 28 3 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Yeah no election interference there or anything. The far left in the states is famous for doing this kind of thing. You will NEVER see it with a liberal candidate in canada but they do it all the time for conservative ones. Liberals - what did you expect them to play by the rules or something? Quote
BeaverFever Posted Friday at 11:21 AM Report Posted Friday at 11:21 AM (edited) 6 hours ago, CdnFox said: Yeah no election interference there or anything. The far left in the states is famous for doing this kind of thing. You will NEVER see it with a liberal candidate in canada but they do it all the time for conservative ones. Liberals - what did you expect them to play by the rules or something? 🙄 1) Political satire is not “election interference” 2) Who is “The far left in the states”? 3) Trudeau has often been a target if not the most common target Edited Friday at 11:25 AM by BeaverFever 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted Friday at 11:26 AM Report Posted Friday at 11:26 AM 9 hours ago, ironstone said: Why does Alberta have to fork over billions to Quebec in the first place? Quebec has more people, they are also rich in natural resources, and they are not landlocked. Alberta doesn’t “fork over” any money to Quebec that’s a conservative lie. 2 Quote
ironstone Posted Friday at 03:24 PM Report Posted Friday at 03:24 PM 3 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Alberta doesn’t “fork over” any money to Quebec that’s a conservative lie. Let me clarify. The feds take the money from Alberta, then hand a huge chunk of it to Quebec. Are you trying to say that Quebec does not get massive equalization payments? Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
TreeBeard Posted Friday at 04:17 PM Author Report Posted Friday at 04:17 PM 51 minutes ago, ironstone said: feds take the money from Alberta No, they don’t take any money from Alberta. The people of Alberta pay more federal taxes because they make more in wages. A worker in BC or Newfoundland pays the same federal rate of tax as an Albertan. Quote
CdnFox Posted Friday at 04:23 PM Report Posted Friday at 04:23 PM 4 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Alberta doesn’t “fork over” any money to Quebec that’s a conservative lie. 54 minutes ago, ironstone said: Let me clarify. The feds take the money from Alberta, then hand a huge chunk of it to Quebec. Are you trying to say that Quebec does not get massive equalization payments? You're both wrong, and also somewhat right. Beaver, albertans do indeed fork over money which is transferred to quebec by way of the federal income tax process. Ironstone, albertans "fork over" the same amount of money as everyone else everywhere. Federal transfers including equalization are paid for from income taxes. So an albertan earning 70 k per year forks over exactly the same as someone earning that in every other province. Albertans just have a higher average income. And they have a younger population who's still working because all of your old people move to bc where they don't ahve to shovel snow anymore and we'd like to have a chat with you about the medical costs Ontario still pays the most actual cash, alberta the most per capita, etc and that's just because that's how income tax works. Treebeard, you must be 10 kinds of stupid to say 'they don't take money from alberta" and then go on to explain how they take money from alberta. Quote
500channelsurfer Posted Friday at 05:10 PM Report Posted Friday at 05:10 PM I think Liberals are being overestimated in the polls. Look at this riding: https://338canada.com/24035e.htm This riding had a bi-election in September and the Bloc won, and it was 2.1% points difference separating the Bloc from the 3rd place NDP, with the Liberals in the middle, a tossup: https://www.elections.ca/res/rep/off/ovr_2024c/59/table12E.html Now we are to believe the Liberals are ahead by 30%?! People who feel strongly (both ways) about Trump and Carney may be speaking loudly to the pollsters, but those remaining silent and undecided may show up on election day and vote as they always have. Quote
CdnFox Posted Friday at 05:27 PM Report Posted Friday at 05:27 PM 13 minutes ago, 500channelsurfer said: I think Liberals are being overestimated in the polls. Look at this riding: https://338canada.com/24035e.htm This riding had a bi-election in September and the Bloc won, and it was 2.1% points difference separating the Bloc from the 3rd place NDP, with the Liberals in the middle, a tossup: https://www.elections.ca/res/rep/off/ovr_2024c/59/table12E.html Now we are to believe the Liberals are ahead by 30%?! People who feel strongly (both ways) about Trump and Carney may be speaking loudly to the pollsters, but those remaining silent and undecided may show up on election day and vote as they always have. None of it makes sense. There is a severe disconnect between the polling and what we're seeing in the actual real world. Carney can't get a thousand people out of his rallies and they are working their asses off to bus people in from elsewhere if necessary. Poilievre is getting 3,000 4,000 people showing up at his and people are lined up outside. And this is in writings that are supposedly too close to call. Conservative donations are through the roof the liberals are lagging but carney is going to win the election? Us race I looked at the polls and said something is wrong. This just isn't how polling works. And that turned out to be accurate I'm sensing the same thing here. The polling does not make sense. There's no doubt that trump should be giving carney a bit of a boost but the degree to which that is supposedly happening does not make sense. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted Saturday at 06:22 AM Report Posted Saturday at 06:22 AM So things are heating up out there. Carney has problems with his thesis and PP has problems with Jenni Byrne, apparently. It’s a bit early for leaks from the campaign as major as this. https://globalnews.ca/news/11103509/wheels-off-conservatives-think-poilievre-needs-reset/ Quote
CdnFox Posted Saturday at 06:56 AM Report Posted Saturday at 06:56 AM 28 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: So things are heating up out there. Carney has problems with his thesis and PP has problems with Jenni Byrne, apparently. It’s a bit early for leaks from the campaign as major as this. https://globalnews.ca/news/11103509/wheels-off-conservatives-think-poilievre-needs-reset/ Ford appears to be happy to undermine poilievre for his own reasons. That's really not a 'conservative' schism. I note the latest mainstreet polling does have the CPC gaining 3 points again which is outside the margin. But they've got the ndp all but non existant and the liberals ahead by 2 points as a result. I don't know that's going to be what happens on election day. there are other indicators that strongly suggest that's not the case. Trump's phone call may hurt PP badly. Trump is making it sound that he expects Carney to win and that if he does things will "all work out" as he says. which is concerning but many will say it shows he can work with trump. Mind you those tariffs are still scheduled for april 1. I do find it hilarious that now that it's clear that pp is NOT trump's guy and Carney IS, the libs are scrambling to explain that you WANT trump's guy in power Quote
CdnFox Posted Saturday at 07:15 AM Report Posted Saturday at 07:15 AM On 3/27/2025 at 6:32 PM, eyeball said: You say that to everyone, it's hardly original. You never get it that we're merely mocking the ridiculous criticisms your slavish partisan adoration of PP and the right wing in general inspire you to make. But you're not. And that's very obvious everyone here. That is I have pointed out in the past when you get called out for your bullshit you tend to try and pass it off as a joke. It's one of the many reasons nobody here respects you. You just a dishonest little weasel who tries to claim "I meant to do that" whenever you fall off your fancy bike Quote
TreeBeard Posted Saturday at 04:35 PM Author Report Posted Saturday at 04:35 PM The CBC is ahead in the polls too. Why is Poilievre chasing such an unpopular policy? Is it to appease the base? Did anyone mention to him that he will need more than his base to win? Especially at a time when Canada’s sovereignty is under attack, it’s not good policy to abolish a Canadian institution. https://www.mediatechdemocracy.com/all-work/canadianinformationecosystem-edzep-gd874 The vast majority (78%) of Canadians would like to see the CBC/Radio-Canada continue if it addresses its major criticisms. Canadians are not aligned on what their major criticisms are of the CBC/Radio-Canada. We asked whether they agreed or disagreed with such criticisms as “it is irrelevant,” “it is too ‘woke,’” or it “doesn’t speak to me or my interests." When asked what they would do with CBC/Radio-Canada’s budget, 57% of respondents would either increase (24%) or maintain (33%) funding. Conservative supporters are the least aligned when it comes to funding, but more prefer to increase/maintain funding (47%) than reduce/eliminate (40%). When asked whether a large public service media organization like the CBC/Radio-Canada is still essential or relevant to Canadians in the digital age, given the rise of social media — 79% of respondents said it was either equally important or more important than before. 1 Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted Saturday at 05:54 PM Report Posted Saturday at 05:54 PM (edited) 12 hours ago, CdnFox said: I do find it hilarious that now that it's clear that pp is NOT trump's guy and Carney IS, the libs are scrambling to explain that you WANT trump's guy in power And you’re basing that on what an avowed enemy of our country says? Dear me. Are you the kind of fan who can’t criticize his own team when they are screwing up? Do you really think PP has run a fantastic campaign so far? What mark out of ten do you think his team deserves? He’s a career politician with a devoted, uncritical base who has been preparing for this moment all his life up against an elderly, inexperienced candidate of an unpopular incumbent party. All he has to do is convince a handful of centrists that he’s trustworthy on Trump and he’s in majority territory. The contest is still his to lose if he can listen to what people on his side of the fence are saying and modify his pitch. Edited Saturday at 07:15 PM by SpankyMcFarland 1 Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted Saturday at 05:58 PM Report Posted Saturday at 05:58 PM (edited) This gave me a laugh. I know it’s not the same but he should have taken that money out a while ago. Now the attack lines write themselves. https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal-elections/pierre-poilievre-holds-investments-in-brookfield-the-same-company-he-attacks-mark-carney-over/article_14b82bad-29da-487f-a4f0-a54571e489c5.html Edited Saturday at 06:51 PM by SpankyMcFarland 1 Quote
Gaétan Posted Saturday at 06:01 PM Report Posted Saturday at 06:01 PM Mark Carney doesn't want to show his financial assets because he has things to hide, it wouldn't be surprising if most of his assets are in tax havens. Quote
TreeBeard Posted Saturday at 06:04 PM Author Report Posted Saturday at 06:04 PM On 3/28/2025 at 10:10 AM, 500channelsurfer said: I think Liberals are being overestimated in the polls. Why should we trust your feelings about this? Quote
Barquentine Posted Saturday at 06:17 PM Report Posted Saturday at 06:17 PM Just had an idea. After Carney's call with Trump and Trump's apparent respect for him, could the Pcs flip the idea that Poilevre is too Trumpy, and Trump DOES actually want Carney to win ( which I don't believe for a moment)? I think it's too late and would actually backfire on the Pcs - they'd have to say it's bad to negotiate with the US. Food for thought. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted Saturday at 06:20 PM Report Posted Saturday at 06:20 PM All political leaders make enemies in their own party - they have to - but it’s vital to limit the animosity generated when advice isn’t taken and people have to be fired. Pretending to listen is a vital skill for any leader in our system who wants to keep their job. By contrast, Poilievre and Byrne seem to have generated a fair bit of resentment in the party with their open contempt for the opinions of others and it’s coming home to roost now. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservatives-campaign-civil-war-party-1.7497029 Quote
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