Aristides Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 (edited) 58 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: This is seriously bad news for Poilievre. Once again, Trump offers a noose rather than a lifeline for his conservative comrade: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/federal-election/article-carney-calls-trumps-tariffs-on-vehicles-imported-to-us-unjustified/ https://www.ctvnews.ca/toronto/article/tariff-for-tariff-doug-ford-says-he-supports-retaliatory-tariffs-in-light-of-trumps-25-per-cent-auto-levy/ Yup. Trump turned out to be the Liberal's best friend. Canadian MAGA hats will still worship him. Edited March 27 by Aristides 2 Quote
TreeBeard Posted March 27 Author Report Posted March 27 4 minutes ago, Aristides said: Yup. Trump turned out to be the Liberal's best friend. Canadian MAGA hats will still worship him. They’re very quiet…. even the ones on this forum! 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 2 hours ago, Aristides said: Yup. Trump turned out to be the Liberal's best friend. Canadian MAGA hats will still worship him. You think anyone who doesn't actually burn a tesla is 'maga'. People who like the ideas trump put forward will still do so even if they don't like what he's doing to our country. Frankly it would be nice after 10 years of burnt churches, toppled statues and cancelled canada days if we had someone who stood up for canada the way he does for the us. But it's pretty telling that trump prefers to help the liberals rather than the conservatives. Yet liberal cheerleaders will still worship the libs. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 Danielle Smith must be a Liberal agent. She’s doing yeoman’s work to sink Poilievre all on her own: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/smith-response-national-criticism-1.7494395 1 Quote
TreeBeard Posted March 27 Author Report Posted March 27 3 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Danielle Smith must be a Liberal agent. She’s doing yeoman’s work to sink Poilievre all on her own: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/smith-response-national-criticism-1.7494395 She tried to have Trump interfere in federal elections! She is quite a piece of work. 1 Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 (edited) The attack ads write themselves. Even the Calgary Herald is unhappy: Quote If Pierre Poilievre’s Conservatives have one goal today, it should be to get Danielle Smith to stay home and keep quiet. The premier seriously damaged the Conservative campaign right out of the gate, with comments linking Poilievre to Trump’s America. https://calgaryherald.com/news/braid-smiths-cosy-ties-in-u-s-wrecked-poilievre-campaign-opening Edited March 27 by SpankyMcFarland Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 And now she’s off to Florida to appear alongside Ben Shapiro, I kid you not. Quote Alberta Premier Danielle Smith is defending her plan to fly to Florida to appear at an event alongside a far-right U.S. influencer who calls Canada "a silly country," saying it is her duty to do everything she can to reach out to Americans to prevent tariffs. Smith is to make a speaking appearance Thursday with conservative media personality Ben Shapiro at a fundraiser for PragerU amid continued calls from the Opposition NDP for her to abandon the trip. Mr. Shapiro wants to annex Canada without the problem of giving us votes: Quote Shapiro has also written social media posts suggesting support for U.S. President Donald Trump's idea of annexing Canada as America's 51st state. Shapiro has suggested Canada could become the "Puerto Rico" of the north, and that Canadians shouldn't be allowed to vote in American elections. "When we take Canada, you will be expelled to Panama to work the canal," Shapiro posted on the social media site X in response to a post made by then-prime minister Justin Trudeau in January. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-premier-stands-by-plan-to-speak-at-u-s-fundraiser-despite-calls-to-cancel-1.7493869 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 (edited) The idea federal conservatives control Daniel Smith is stupid. And the vast majority of people simply aren't watching. This is kind of a desperation move from the liberals, which is similar to their move with trying to claim poilievre's Leadership run was tainted by India. It's just not what the election is about. The two issues that our front and center are the economy, which poilievre pulls far better in and who's the best to negotiate with trump, which currently Carney is pulling better at. The rest are side shows that are of interest to partisans but they weren't going to change their minds anyway 2 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: And now she’s off to Florida to appear alongside Ben Shapiro, I kid you not. Mr. Shapiro wants to annex Canada without the problem of giving us votes: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-premier-stands-by-plan-to-speak-at-u-s-fundraiser-despite-calls-to-cancel-1.7493869 Seriously dude nobody but diehards care. The vast majority of people don't even know who Ben Shapiro is. And they all think Daniel Smith is nuts anyway and don't believe that the feds control her. Edited March 27 by CdnFox Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 (edited) 9 minutes ago, CdnFox said: The idea federal conservatives control Daniel Smith is stupid. And the vast majority of people simply aren't watching. This is kind of a desperation move from the liberals, which is similar to their move with trying to claim poilievre's Leadership run was tainted by India. Control? Danielle Smith is an experienced Tory politician. She should have the sense all on her own not to sabotage the federal Conservative campaign. 9 minutes ago, CdnFox said: It's just not what the election is about. The two issues that our front and center are the economy, which poilievre pulls far better in and who's the best to negotiate with trump, which currently Carney is pulling better at. The rest are side shows that are of interest to partisans but they weren't going to change their minds anyway Seriously dude nobody but diehards care. The vast majority of people don't even know who Ben Shapiro is. And they all think Daniel Smith is nuts anyway and don't believe that the feds control her. Campaigns determine what an election is about and PP is making a hames of it so far. The public will be finding out about Shapiro PDQ when Smith appears beside him. There are hits one has to take in a campaign, eg Carney’s Brookfield, and then there are the unnecessary self-inflicted wounds. This is clearly in the latter category. The question I would ask: is it just narcissistic idiocy or is there active malice here of some weird sort? Edited March 27 by SpankyMcFarland Quote
CdnFox Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 Just now, SpankyMcFarland said: The public will be finding out about Shapiro PDQ when Smith appears beside him. There are hits one has to take in a campaign, eg Carney’s Brookfield, and then there are the unnecessary self-inflicted wounds. This is clearly in the latter category. The question I would ask: is it just narcissistic idiocy or is there active malice here of some weird sort? They won't. There will be a few clips which younger people will see but the older people won't, there might be one or two new stories but it won't really explain anything, and everybody is going to think that she's nuts but they're not going to say she is pp's problem. And it's hard to condemn her and not condemn rob ford who also went off on his own. So it gets pretty easy for Poilievre to say we support rob ford in his efforts to protect his province, we support all of the other premiers taking the actions they feel necessary, we would encourage everyone to stay with the team Canada approach but it's up to the premieres to decide how to address this And that will be the end of that. Like I said, for die hard partisans who weren't going to change their mind anyway it's a no issue. Just like all of the partisans are laughing at Carney for his pictures with Epstein and people are starting to yell out at his rallies how many children did you sleep with. It's something to die hard conservative supporters will laugh at and point to but in the big picture that's not going to make a big difference Skipping the french debate in Quebec is going to make a big difference. Miss naming the polytechnique school and victim is a big thing. Transferring his company to the states is a big thing. Hiding his assets in Bermuda is kind of a big thing. Borrowing money from china is a big thing. But the fact that he was friends with Epstein is not, and the fact that Danielle Smith is a crazy rogue premier is not Quote
eyeball Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 12 minutes ago, CdnFox said: But the fact that he was friends with Epstein is not likely a fact at all. Fact Check: Image of Carney, Maxwell and Hanks on a beach is likely AI, say experts https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/image-carney-maxwell-hanks-beach-is-likely-ai-say-experts-2025-03-26/ PP partisans sure seem to be getting desperate. You people can't help but make Carney's path to power a cakewalk. You must be on Canada's side subconsciously. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Moonbox Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 38 minutes ago, eyeball said: PP partisans sure seem to be getting desperate. I wonder why? If PP somehow manages to lose this election, it'd historical for mostly comical reasons. 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
CdnFox Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Control? Danielle Smith is an experienced Tory politician. She should have the sense all on her own not to sabotage the federal Conservative campaign. there's no such thing as a 'tory' politiican. She's the premier of Alberta and a UPC party leader and of course she's going to do what she sees as being in the best interests of alberta and her party and her government and that's not got much to do with the federal party. She thinks that by palling around with these people she's going to get an energy carve out for alberta and so far it looks like she might be right. To be clear I don't approve of what she's doing right now at all but she answers to the people of Alberta and that's it. It's cheesy as crap to try and make it a federal issue especially when nobody's complaining about Doug Ford doing exactly the same things Quote Campaigns determine what an election is about and PP is making a hames of it so far. The public will be finding out about Shapiro PDQ when Smith appears beside him. There are hits one has to take in a campaign, eg Carney’s Brookfield, and then there are the unnecessary self-inflicted wounds. This is clearly in the latter category. The question I would ask: is it just narcissistic idiocy or is there active malice here of some weird sort? That's all complete nonsense. Jaggers is parading around a lady who says that Carney's company through her out on the streets in a renoviction you honestly believe that people are going to care that some non-federal politician is currently visiting some guy in the states who isn't even a politician at all? Give your head a shake Quote
ironstone Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 1 hour ago, eyeball said: likely a fact at all. Fact Check: Image of Carney, Maxwell and Hanks on a beach is likely AI, say experts https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/image-carney-maxwell-hanks-beach-is-likely-ai-say-experts-2025-03-26/ PP partisans sure seem to be getting desperate. You people can't help but make Carney's path to power a cakewalk. You must be on Canada's side subconsciously. I have heard that this particular photo is most likely fake and it should be taken with a huge grain of salt. However, there are some other photos of Carney looking pretty friendly with Ghislaine Maxwell that seem to be genuine. I personally wouldn't put too much into those photos either since it's not uncommon for wealthy elitist big shots to hang out together. There are other things in Carney's history that should be more concerning to Canadians. Like his history of embellishment, his less than stellar record at the BOE, GFANZ and cartel-like methods, his obsession with net-zero for the West but not for China, his ties to China... Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
CdnFox Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 1 hour ago, eyeball said: likely a fact at all. Fact Check: Image of Carney, Maxwell and Hanks on a beach is likely AI, say experts Let's say they're lying. Let's say people believe that the pictures 100% true. Which it probably is, he's that kind of guy. It still won't make any difference in the campaign. People that don't like him and would never vote for him will believe it could be him and people who do like him and want to vote for him will dismiss it. As we can see because you showed up to dismiss it 4 minutes ago, ironstone said: I have heard that this particular photo is most likely fake and it should be taken with a huge grain of salt. However, there are some other photos of Carney looking pretty friendly with Ghislaine Maxwell that seem to be genuine. I personally wouldn't put too much into those photos either since it's not uncommon for wealthy elitist big shots to hang out together. There are other things in Carney's history that should be more concerning to Canadians. Like his history of embellishment, his less than stellar record at the BOE, GFANZ and cartel-like methods, his obsession with net-zero for the West but not for China, his ties to China... Well exactly. True or not it's just not going to be a factor in this campaign Quote
eyeball Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 13 minutes ago, ironstone said: There are other things in Carney's history that should be more concerning to Canadians. They're sure are The fact he will soon be taxing people as opposed to protecting their wealth from taxation concerns me. Talk about a conflict. OTOH maybe it'll take an avoider to catch one. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 16 minutes ago, CdnFox said: As we can see because you showed up to dismiss it I'm dismissing you. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 (edited) The MAGA mob has nowhere to go. Bernier is a wasted vote. Poilievre has to roast their hero if he wants centrist voters to consider him. Quote One of the country's top Conservative strategists who just helped Ontario Premier Doug Ford win a sizable majority government says Pierre Poilievre urgently needs to make a pivot and start talking more about the issue voters care about most — the U.S. threat — or he risks losing the federal election. In an interview with CBC News, Kory Teneycke said only weeks ago Poilievre was on track to win a massive majority government, and now every major pollster in the country says it's the Liberals who are set to win big. If an election were held today, the Conservatives would lose, Teneycke said. He said it's because of U.S. President Donald Trump — and the Conservative Party's inadequate messaging around what it would do to try and stop his tariffs and annexationist threats. But it's not just that, Teneycke said, there's also a stylistic issue — the party's leader is just too "Trump-y" and he's got to make a change fast. https://www.cbc.ca/lite/story/1.7495524 Edited March 27 by SpankyMcFarland Quote
ironstone Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 Carney was a bit heavy handed with GFANZ (Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero) in his tactics in the investment world. Forcing other financial managers to play by his rules or face the consequences. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/mark-carneys-gfanz-targeted-bombshell-070000655.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAADVe6BuJfguhGnglIV8_YqlpQPvBuIvr1vOIpPmnXNzBpnDyjtpdoHvha7-wXh30ja2jrVCTuprVJhuBb6w9FmtVWt0DFtYUYid-1uCfj_YYXrm5BiAP6q4G8FoWXnsav5ivl5eg3cLJIRawrAIE1ztpP6z6sBlpRGZHUi0pkpTY&_guc_consent_skip=1743115010 The report claims that the "climate cartel imposes these radical policies by weaponizing ever-escalating pressure tactics…" on corporations. One of the tactics is forcing companies to make "immaterial disclosure of carbon emissions," a tactic being pushed in the US and Canada. Net-zero or bust if Carney wins. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 Poilievre should be copying and pasting from Doug Ford in style and content. Forget about Smith and Alberta. They’re irrelevant. Quote
ironstone Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 4 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Forget about Smith and Alberta. They’re irrelevant. No wonder Albertan's feel the way they do. Alberta is irrelevant except when they have to fork over all those billions for equalization payments right? 2 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
SpankyMcFarland Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 (edited) 32 minutes ago, ironstone said: No wonder Albertan's feel the way they do. Alberta is irrelevant except when they have to fork over all those billions for equalization payments right? Mate, I come from a province whose resources have subsided Quebec for decades so I need no lessons there. Obviously, that’s not my point. Alberta ridings are largely decided already and Smith is unpopular in the rest of the country. Poilievre should be copying a winner like Ford in a province that matters ELECTORALLY. Edited March 27 by SpankyMcFarland Quote
eyeball Posted March 27 Report Posted March 27 49 minutes ago, ironstone said: No wonder Albertan's feel the way they do. Alberta is irrelevant except when they have to fork over all those billions for equalization payments right? They can afford that and they're still whining? 17 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Poilievre should be copying a winner like Ford in a province that matters ELECTORALLY. And he should be as willing to put export taxes on energy. Cause gas prices to go up 25% and this could all be over before we even head for the polls. Surely Canada could return the favour and share Alberta's pain by forgoing an equalization payment or two. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
ironstone Posted March 28 Report Posted March 28 47 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Poilievre should be copying a winner like Ford in a province that matters ELECTORALLY. We can look at the same person and come to radically different conclusions. IMO, Ford is a buffoon that can't control his mouth and I'm not talking about the buffet. His threats to cut off power to Americans in winter were disgusting. He won the last election primarily because the other main parties had pathetic records while in office. Ford was merely the best of a bad lot. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
CdnFox Posted March 28 Report Posted March 28 2 hours ago, eyeball said: I'm dismissing you. LOL awwww muffin, did you get your feelings hurt again?! I know i know - you hate it when you get caught defending your beloved liberals when they can't be defended Quote
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