Liberals halt funds for search for residential school graves after zero graves found

[I am Groot]

Imagine that, after $216 million dollars spent - almost all of it various consultants and <cough-cough> administration fees, the committee to search for the unmarked graves at residential schools has come up with approximately ZERO graves. By the way, only 3.6% of the money was spent on actual physical searches. But hey, lots of band councilors got new pickups and were able to renovate their homes. You probably haven't heard much about this since the mainstream media's screaming headlines about 'mass graves' that initiated the panic among the Left has not also resulted in blaring headlines about how it was all a waste of time. I wonder why.

The Canadian federal government will be halting funding to a committee tasked with searching for “unmarked burials” near former residential schools after zero graves were discovered and millions of taxpayer dollars spent. 

In a statement released last week, the National Advisory Committee on Residential Schools Missing Children and Unmarked Burials said it was “extremely disappointed to learn that the Government of Canada has decided to discontinue funding to support their work to help Indigenous communities in their efforts to identify, locate and commemorate missing children.” 

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/trudeau-govt-to-halt-funds-for-unmarked-graves-search-after-millions-spent-no-bodies-found/

[ExFlyer]

Key statement is "no graves found".

So much controversy, so much money, so much time and all about nothing.!!!!

Another waste to appease the natives.

[Aristides]

If on 3.6% was spent on physical searches, it was a waste of time and money. One has to ask how serious they were about actually finding anything.

[CdnFox]

28 minutes ago, Aristides said:

If on 3.6% was spent on physical searches, it was a waste of time and money. One has to ask how serious they were about actually finding anything.

One still has to ask if there was anything to be found. it seems less and less likely

I am absolutely sure that there are some children buried around many of the residential schools. Those schools were actually churches as well and churches tended to bury people on their property back in those days. In addition back in the 1900s especially the early 1900s it was very dangerous to ship bodies that died from tuberculosis as they would be contagious for a long time after. And you didn't exactly have a lot of freezer cars and trucks in 1901.

But obviously there aren't as many as they thought, it's not the issue they thought, it was nothing. And honestly it would have been if they had found the bodies, the records are clear enough to show that the absolutely massively largest number of deaths was due to tuberculosis, and out of the small remainder about half were tied up with Spanish flu. So you have a tiny number of other deaths due to accident or other illness or misfortune and only a small itty bitty handful to things that are more concerning such as kids that ran away from school and were never found.

Another case of the boy who cried whitey

[I am Groot]

And yet despite this, despite no evidence being found, academia, as well as professional organizations like the BC Law Society continue to cling to the story of genocide and murdered children. And that is what they teach. Nor will they even consider any challenge to their beliefs. Hell, we had the federal government actually looking into making it a CRIME to deny that there was a great slaughter of native children at these schools. Nor have they recanted. A re-elected Liberal government might well bring in such a law.

As Goebbels said, if you tell a big enough lie and repeat it often enough, it becomes true, especially if you put those who disagree in prison.

[Zeitgeist]

There’s an old propaganda trick that advertisers and irresponsible journalists use as a way of influencing opinion, damaging reputations, and generally being disingenuous.  You suggest that something may have happened, which isn’t a lie technically, since just about anything may have happened.  For example, “There was a protest outside the provincial legislature resulting in clashes between protesters and police.  It’s possible that terrorists perpetrated the violence.”

Yes that’s possible, but note that no evidence was provided to support the idea of terrorist involvement. Your grandmother may also have perpetrated the violence. Many things may have happened.  

Edited February 24 by Zeitgeist

[ExFlyer]

16 hours ago, Aristides said:

If on 3.6% was spent on physical searches, it was a waste of time and money. One has to ask how serious they were about actually finding anything.

Who are you saying "they" were???

I can assure you that the natives had their "people" out there witnessing and verifying and pushing for as many searches the natives could get.

What is sure,they found no evidence.... natives are pi$$ed and caught in negativity .

[Aristides]

12 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Who are you saying "they" were???

I can assure you that the natives had their "people" out there witnessing and verifying and pushing for as many searches the natives could get.

What is sure,they found no evidence.... natives are pi$$ed and caught in negativity .

Good question. I don't know who "they" were but if "they" can't do better than 3.6% on physical searches then "their" intentions are questionable.

[herbie]

Another racist rant by someone thick as a stump.

Concluding the money was stopped because nothing was found is bullshit.
Nobody's dug up anything because no one's given permission to 'dig up'. That will only come from Bands involved and violating possible burial sites and sacred grounds simply to 'prove' to the white man is unlikely ever to be given.
Still carrying the mindset that you can just dig up shit like a 18th century archeologist and haul the goods off to a museum, eh?

[ExFlyer]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

Good question. I don't know who "they" were but if "they" can't do better than 3.6% on physical searches then "their" intentions are questionable.

 

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

Good question. I don't know who "they" were but if "they" can't do better than 3.6% on physical searches then "their" intentions are questionable.

You have no idea how much it costs to do searches or how many areas were searched. You can search a very big area in a short time using ground penetrating radar. 

The amount of money spent in no way is indicative of what was done or searched.

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Another racist rant by someone thick as a stump.

Concluding the money was stopped because nothing was found is bullshit.

Except the money was stopped because nothing was found.

That's a lot of money to spend to find bodies with no bodies found.

So either there are no bodies, or there are bodies but they pocketed the money instead of actually trying to find them

Either way it's the same. Either they know there are no bodies therefore they don't give a crap, or they don't give a crap either way and are simply exploiting their dead for profit. Either way we're done

[I am Groot]

5 hours ago, herbie said:

Another racist rant by someone thick as a stump.

Go suck a bag of dicks.

5 hours ago, herbie said:

Concluding the money was stopped because nothing was found is bullshit.
Nobody's dug up anything because no one's given permission to 'dig up'. That will only come from Bands involved

It's not their land, ******.

5 hours ago, herbie said:

and violating possible burial sites and sacred grounds simply to 'prove' to the white man is unlikely ever to be given.

In other words, they want the money while supplying zero evidence there ever even were any graves.

5 hours ago, herbie said:

Still carrying the mindset that you can just dig up shit like a 18th century archeologist and haul the goods off to a museum, eh?

Naw. As far as I'm concerned, nothing the natives ever did or accomplished is worth putting in a museum anyway.

Edited February 25 by I am Groot

[herbie]

Three posts and 3 replies by people proud to be disgusting. No need to whine to a moderator when you're doubling down to prove the very point you dislike.

BTW Groot those lands are the property of Bands or Churches. Not YOU behaving like Trump claiming the right to decide.

Edited February 25 by herbie

[CdnFox]

48 minutes ago, herbie said:

Three posts and 3 replies by people proud to be disgusting.

For god's sake. You're not three people Herbie! we've been over this. The voices don't count. You're just one person who's proud to be disgusting.

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No need to whine to a moderator when you're doubling down to prove the very point you dislike.

Why are you suddenly paranoid about the moderators? Especially when you know we don't have any moderators

[ExFlyer]

13 hours ago, herbie said:

Three posts and 3 replies by people proud to be disgusting. No need to whine to a moderator when you're doubling down to prove the very point you dislike.

BTW Groot those lands are the property of Bands or Churches. Not YOU behaving like Trump claiming the right to decide.

Whoa Whoa there.

4 years and $216 million spent and not one shred of evidence was found to substantiate the accusations and claims.

What is disgusting is your accusation it is that what "we" dislike.  What is disgusting is you accusing anyone that the effort and actions were not thorough.

Fact is millions of dollars and 4 years of effort have been fruitless in proving indigenous accusations..... that is what is disgusting....indigenous lies that have to be proven once again to appease the few.

 

[Nationalist]

13 hours ago, herbie said:

Three posts and 3 replies by people proud to be disgusting. No need to whine to a moderator when you're doubling down to prove the very point you dislike.

BTW Groot those lands are the property of Bands or Churches. Not YOU behaving like Trump claiming the right to decide.

Proud to be correct and innocent of the disgusting accusations.

Now I think its time we investigated the Native Tribes. Their leadership, the schooling and their contribution to the Canadian society.

[Dougie93]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Proud to be correct and innocent of the disgusting accusations.

yet these same leftist lunatics whom declared Canada to be tantamount to Nazi Germany

are now summoning you to rally around them by waving the Liberal Party of Canada flag in your face

[ExFlyer]

21 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

yet these same leftist lunatics whom declared Canada to be tantamount to Nazi Germany

are now summoning you to rally around them by waving the Liberal Party of Canada flag in your face

WTF are you on about now???

This finding baby bodies crap was before the liberals came in. The libs just finally caved in and gave the money for the search.

The natives whined and whined till they got the money and now are not happy with the results.

Same as the missing women investigation, millions and millions of dollars spent and were not allowed to divulge that their own men were killing their own women.

This is not a liberal problem, it is all governments and and a pure indigenous problem.

[Dougie93]

On 2/24/2025 at 10:03 AM, Zeitgeist said:

 Your grandmother may also have perpetrated the violence.

never mind my grandmother, Jean Chretien was Minister of Indian Affairs in 1969

when he introduced a White Paper proposing to abolish all treaties between the Crown & First Nations

which at the time was decried as being an attempt at Native Assimilation ( Genocide ! )

Residential Schools were operating well into the 1990's, when Chretien was Prime Minister

when is he going to be extradited to the Hague for Crimes Against Humanity ?

Edited February 25 by Dougie93

[herbie]

5 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

4 years and $216 million spent and not one shred of evidence was found to substantiate the accusations and claims.

Only if you wish to dismiss the evidence of history and testimony. Only if bones are the only evidence you'll accept.
And that's not likely to happen by insisting they MUST dig up the dead to prove things to your satisfaction.

Do you wish to stand before the MMIWG and insist that as so an so's body was never recovered or no arrest was made that they are all liars too?
Or join the chorus of typical rednecks that money spent on truth and reconciliation was money wasted?
I do not think that you do.

The Church itself has admitted children were buried on school grounds, they've admitted that some markers were removed and lost. Many, many natives have testified children went to schools and disappeared. Even nuns. teachers and priests have whispered such accusations over the years and almost now are dead themselves, and records long lost or hidden.
And do not forget this subject began with a report from Kamloops that ground anomalies 'may' be graves and spun by media and individuals into "they are" and "mass graves' hysteria.
So outright denial is a pretty shitty response.

Simple logic says that something like this most probably did happen, and even some is too much. Record keeping and respect given during the time was abysmal and shameful.

Edited February 25 by herbie

[ExFlyer]

1 minute ago, herbie said:

Only if you wish to dismiss the evidence of history and testimony. Only if bones are the only evidence you'll accept.
And that's not likely to happen by insisting they MUST dig up the dead to prove things to your satisfaction.

Do you wish to stand before the MMIWG and insist that as so an so's body was never recovered or no arrest was made that they are all liars too?
Or join the chorus of typical rednecks that money spent on truth and reconciliation was money wasted?
I do not think that you do.

The Church itself has admitted children were buried on school grounds, they've admitted that some markers were removed and lost. Many, many natives have testified children went to schools and disappeared. Even nuns. teachers and priests have whispered such accusations over the years and almost now are dead themselves, and records long lost or hidden.
And do not forget this subject began with a report from Kamloops that ground anomalies 'may' be graves and spun by media and individuals into "they are" and "mass graves' hysteria.
So outright denial is a pretty shitty response.

Simple logic says that something like this most probably did happen, and even some is too much. Record keeping and respect given during the time was abysmal and shameful.

look herbie, the indigenous made accusations and claims and 3 years of investigation and over $200 million disproved that.

I do not want to stand before anyone but....The most murders (?) and missing women were on reservations or communities or nations....who would be to blame?? Oh yeah, the residents...that were primarily indigenous. That part of the investigation has been redacted.

Yes, the church admitted they buried some but, all churches did that back then and today. That is part of their duty.

Yes, simple logic does say something happened but before you accuse, have proof and the years of investigation and money spent nothing has been proven leaves you with bitterness and unwillingness to accept the results. Back at ya...."So outright denial is a pretty shitty response."

 

 

[herbie]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Proud to be correct and innocent of the disgusting accusations.

Now I think its time we investigated the Native Tribes. Their leadership, the schooling and their contribution to the Canadian society

That is the most disgusting and racist post I've seen, and you are proud of it.
Outright denial of any wrongs of residential schools and questioning the 'contribution to Canadian society' of natives.
You are so far right of Canadian society yourself that fascists seem like extreme leftists.
Move to Idaho with your buddies and tattoo a swastika on your forehead.

[ExFlyer]

4 minutes ago, herbie said:

That is the most disgusting and racist post I've seen, and you are proud of it.
Outright denial of any wrongs of residential schools and questioning the 'contribution to Canadian society' of natives.
You are so far right of Canadian society yourself that fascists seem like extreme leftists.
Move to Idaho with your buddies and tattoo a swastika on your forehead.

The natives have been paid for the churches and government discretion.

"Canada has paid billions of dollars to Indigenous communities as part of a settlement with some 90,000 survivors of the residential schools. Canada's Catholic Church says its dioceses and religious orders have already paid $50 million to the tribes and expects another $30 million in coming years"

"The Catholic Church agreed to pay C$79 million to an Aboriginal healing foundation, to survivors"

If handled properly by the natives, all survivors should be millionaires.

So, cry me a river herbie.....the money has been flowing. If poor management by the natives keeps it from getting to them, sounds like an internal problem to me LOL.  Time to make the natives show what they did with all the money. Spend $200 million on audits of the natives LOL

[Nationalist]

18 minutes ago, herbie said:

That is the most disgusting and racist post I've seen, and you are proud of it.
Outright denial of any wrongs of residential schools and questioning the 'contribution to Canadian society' of natives.
You are so far right of Canadian society yourself that fascists seem like extreme leftists.
Move to Idaho with your buddies and tattoo a swastika on your forehead.

Up yours Tweenkie-Poo.

What's good for the goose, is good for the gander.

[herbie]

2 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

look herbie, the indigenous made accusations and claims and 3 years of investigation and over $200 million disproved that.

OMG they did not disprove anything, they simply did not prove otherwise.

As I went out of my way to point out 99% of this shit was sensationalism. A couple of people said 'mass graves' out loud and it was reported everywhere.
Like how some woman walking down the street in New York and was stabbed so some ladies in Burns Lake feels unsafe to walk down the street. And my stepdaughter that walks her 11 yr old daughter a whole block and a half to school because 'all this shit is happening out there' and lived in f*cking Terrace. Half the TV stations on the local repeaters here used to be from Detroit as there were mostly shift workers and I met many people that wouldn't go to Vancouver because it wasn't safe!

11 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Yes, simple logic does say something happened but before you accuse

I am using that same logic and I'm not accusing, simply accepting it probably did happen on occasion. I do not take the many stories of some of nuns taking the babies from pregnant residential school girls and burying them alive as truth, but if a kid died at school and no one claimed the body WTF were they supposed to do with them. Had they marked the grave and recorded it, no problem.
So rather than accuse people we can at least acknowledge shit happened, apologize and move on. You and I didn't do it (we were f*cking lied to like everyone else back then) but we can move on and prevent future grievances. Like trying to claim constitutionally in the 1980s that white people that lived in towns who spoke French instead of English were the Distinct Society and ignoring the native population on the rez's completely.