CdnFox Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 3 hours ago, Barquentine said: From Wikipedia and many other sources: "During the Canada convoy protest, the group tried to advance a memorandum of understanding (MOU) with Governor General of Canada Mary Simon to bring down the federal government of Canada and revoke COVID-19 public health measures, despite that being legally impossible for a governor general to do." Ummm can you underline the par where they demanded leadership be handed over to them as you claimed? No? LOL i love it when you guys take the time to find a quote to prove me right Also the article is poorly written, she didn't have the power to revoke covid restrictions BUT she absolutely DID have the power to "bring down" the federal gov't. In fact she has the legal power to do so any time she likes. By convention and tradition there are usually only specific times that they do but it HAS HAPPENED that a GG has decided they've had enough of a gov'ts bull crap and pulled the plug in canada before. As i recall they asked her to take control or to possibly form a citizens coalition or advisory council to determine how to proceed, and they did offer if she wished to participate. But at no time did they demand the gov't be 'brought down' and turned over to them. Like i said, love to see you still lie about it Thanks for proving me right yet again Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
ExFlyer Posted March 2 Author Report Posted March 2 (edited) 12 hours ago, taxme said: The libtard is not my leader. Poilievre and Trump are my hero's and show great signs of leadership. Trump is cleaning the house and getting rid of those sick pathetic bunch of commie demonrats that have virtually destroyed America just like the turd in Ottawa has done to Canada. Lefty liberals like you have nothing to be proud of. I call you a comrade because you appear to be one. King broke no laws. He was peacefully and lawfully demonstrating, where that he thought they were his rights to do so under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, but he found out later that he was wrong. Kings arrest was political. King was a conservative, which means being a conservative in Canada is a no-no in Canada today. It is quite obvious to me that you do lack any intelligence or credibility because you are a lefty stunned liberal. Lefty liberals like you only knows how to lie and spread bullshit like you are doing here. You despise Canadian patriots like King, and therefore to you, King is a right wing terrorist. Blah-blah-bah is all i get from you. I still think that you should go away. Cuba, comrade? Works for me!! Trump is your hero???? Well, that explains a lot LOL I have never voted liberal in my life, provincially or federally (NDP either ). Just a FYI Oh yes, King broke laws. His lawyer proved that the laws he broke were irrefutable and hence he got punished and sentenced. Your unwillingness to understand is understandable. Closed minded folks like you always lose. My level of intelligence is never questioned whereas your lack of it is demonstrated in most of your posts LOL See, you lose the argument and get your affiliation challenged right away the other person is a communist and from Cuba. Sad you are so closed minded LOL I guess you just want to keep this pi$$ing contest to keep going on LOL Let it go and it goes away Edited March 2 by ExFlyer Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
Barquentine Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 14 hours ago, CdnFox said: In fact she has the legal power to do so any time she likes. No she doesn't. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 17 minutes ago, Barquentine said: No she doesn't. course she does. That's the primary reason we have her or him. And as i said it's happened before. Mackenzie king effed around and found out. Now as it happens the GG told him to pee up a rope and dissolved parliament against his will and forced an election which he then WON so for him it worked out but the GG got sick of him playing his little games and that was that. The governor general is the circuit breaker for democracy. They have incredible powers which are almost never used, but which are there so that if they feel the democracy is threatened or Canadian system is threatened they can in fax step in and pull the plug. You are a disappointment. I thought having looked stupid once you would have realized that I don't say things unless I'm fairly confident that they are substantially true I'm going to look that up before you decided to go looking stupid again Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 27 minutes ago, CdnFox said: The governor general is the circuit breaker for democracy. They have incredible powers which are almost never used, but which are there so that if they feel the democracy is threatened or Canadian system is threatened they can in fax step in and pull the plug. And you figure the scatterbrained grievances of a bunch of misfits was threatening enough to pull it? LMAO! I still think it was wrong of her to allow Trudeau to prorogue Parliament though. As I see it a GG's role, like any other official civil servant and representative, is to put the interests Canada's citizens first not the issues a bunch of social clubs have with one another. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Barquentine Posted March 2 Report Posted March 2 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: The governor general is the circuit breaker for democracy. They have incredible powers which are almost never used, but which are there so that if they feel the democracy is threatened or Canadian system is threatened While the role of the Governor General is significantly restricted by conventions, it is not entirely symbolic.[13] On rare occasions, a Governor General can exercise personal discretion, meaning that he or she can act independently of prime ministerial advice. This ability to exercise personal discretion revolves around the Governor General's “reserve powers.”[14] Two established reserve powers are the Governor General's authority to refuse a prime minister's request to dissolve Parliament and the right to appoint and dismiss a prime minister. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 4 hours ago, eyeball said: And you figure the scatterbrained grievances of a bunch of misfits was threatening enough to pull it? I never said anything like that. I said that if it was she could So once again you can't argue with what I said so you choose to make up something I didn't say and argue with that lololol Man you're such a loser it's almost pitiful Quote I still think it was wrong of her to allow Trudeau to prorogue Parliament though. Arguably true but it goes back to those traditions we talked about. And it's not just our traditions that they look at for these things, they look at the behavior of Governor generals throughout the commonwealth that use a Westminster system. She can go against it, but their default position is to try to stay out of things if they can and prorogation requests are usually granted provided there for a limited time and a specific reason I agree that pro-roading parliament for party politics rather than the governance of Canada is a Bad Thing, but there is a long tradition of it. Virtually every single prime minister has done that to one degree or another. I'm not mistaken I believe the first Trudeau was the all-time winner for using prorogation. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 (edited) 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: I never said anything like that. I said that if it was she could. Sure, you'll go as far as saying PMs can commit murder and the only thing we can do about it is mark a ballot with an x. 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: I agree that pro-roading parliament for party politics rather than the governance of Canada is a Bad Thing, but there is a long tradition of it. That's no excuse for maintaining bad things. And I'd expect nothing less than twenty pages of long winded arguments from you advocating doing just that. Except for, you know, an occasional x. LMAO! Edited March 3 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 3 hours ago, eyeball said: Sure, you'll go as far as saying PMs can commit murder and the only thing we can do about it is mark a ballot with an x. You mean like when we had capital punishment? Yes it's quite true that the government can pass a law making it legal to kill somebody. It is also true if you didn't like that then you should vote for somebody who wasn't going to do that. I'm glad to see you have managed to achieve a grade two level of understanding with regards to our political process after all these years Quote That's no excuse for maintaining bad things. And I'd expect nothing less than twenty pages of long winded arguments from you advocating doing just that. Except for, you know, an occasional x. Well sorry but it is. Want something becomes established as normal and acceptable behavior within our system becomes entrenched and that is perfectly valid. Our system relies on a certain level of consistency in order for it to function. if you want things like that to change then guess what..... You the voter needs to propose that to a political party and get them to accept it and then vote them into power you remember, that thing you said you didn't believe in. Elections 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Nationalist Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 Meh...the Libbies are scrambling to garner support. But they can't overcome the disgust most Canadians hold for them and their leadership. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
ExFlyer Posted March 3 Author Report Posted March 3 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Meh...the Libbies are scrambling to garner support. But they can't overcome the disgust most Canadians hold for them and their leadership. CPC 38& Lib 35% NDP 14% https://338canada.com/20250222-leg.htm While I think they should go, I cannot figure out what is causing them to climb in the polls and PC declining. Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
Nationalist Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: CPC 38& Lib 35% NDP 14% https://338canada.com/20250222-leg.htm While I think they should go, I cannot figure out what is causing them to climb in the polls and PC declining. Propaganda. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
ExFlyer Posted March 3 Author Report Posted March 3 32 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Propaganda. One poll at this time is as good as another. Don't like it? OK. LOL Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
Nationalist Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 34 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: One poll at this time is as good as another. Don't like it? OK. LOL I didn't mean the polls are incorrect. I meant the news about this Trump thing has been blown so far out of proportion that its affecting the polls. They've propagated panic. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 36 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I didn't mean the polls are incorrect. I meant the news about this Trump thing has been blown so far out of proportion that its affecting the polls. They've propagated panic. No, it's the news that's affected Poilievre's moderate supporters. The polls are showing they're having second thoughts about sharing the Conservative Big Tent with the Freaker's Ball of COVID authoritarianism nuts, climate change-is-a-hoax quacks, MSM conspiracy goofs, and now MAGA Canadians who apparently think joining the likes of North Korea in our alignment with Trump's Axis is a good idea. I can't wait to see how much more damage to the right wing brand and vision for the future that Trump will cause during his speech to Congress tomorrow. Should make for some good TV! 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
herbie Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 Quote No, it's the news that's affected Poilievre's moderate supporters. The polls are showing they're having second thoughts about sharing the Conservative Big Tent with the Freaker's Ball of COVID authoritarianism nuts, climate change-is-a-hoax quacks, MSM conspiracy goofs, and now MAGA Canadians who apparently think joining the likes of North Korea in our alignment with Trump's Axis is a good idea. Finally their fog of Trudeau hatred is clearing. Took a miserable old bastard like Trump to make Justin look pretty good again. Quote
Nationalist Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 23 minutes ago, eyeball said: No, it's the news that's affected Poilievre's moderate supporters. The polls are showing they're having second thoughts about sharing the Conservative Big Tent with the Freaker's Ball of COVID authoritarianism nuts, climate change-is-a-hoax quacks, MSM conspiracy goofs, and now MAGA Canadians who apparently think joining the likes of North Korea in our alignment with Trump's Axis is a good idea. I can't wait to see how much more damage to the right wing brand and vision for the future that Trump will cause during his speech to Congress tomorrow. Should make for some good TV! Like the news of the big bad tariffs...that never happened? Pfft. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
ExFlyer Posted March 3 Author Report Posted March 3 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: I didn't mean the polls are incorrect. I meant the news about this Trump thing has been blown so far out of proportion that its affecting the polls. They've propagated panic. It could very well be but, there must be a reason for the decline from the cons and increase for the libs? Are there that many people that believe trump is influencing Canadian conservative party? Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
Nationalist Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 1 minute ago, ExFlyer said: It could very well be but, there must be a reason for the decline from the cons and increase for the libs? Are there that many people that believe trump is influencing Canadian conservative party? It appears that way. But I can tell you this. I spoke with my Dad on Sunday and asked him about it. He hates Trump...but hates the Liberals more. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
ExFlyer Posted March 3 Author Report Posted March 3 4 minutes ago, Nationalist said: It appears that way. But I can tell you this. I spoke with my Dad on Sunday and asked him about it. He hates Trump...but hates the Liberals more. Me and your Dad feel the same LOL 1 Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
Barquentine Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 23 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: It could very well be but, there must be a reason for the decline from the cons and increase for the libs? Tariffs. It's also PP. The sheen has worn off somewhat, and he's really struggling to get back in the spotlight. Quote
Barquentine Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 1 hour ago, herbie said: Finally their fog of Trudeau hatred is clearing. Took a miserable old bastard like Trump to make Justin look pretty good again. Seems like a lot of people, me included, didn't like Trudeau, but see the Liberals as a better alternative to the Pc's. Quote
Dougie93 Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 (edited) On 3/1/2025 at 7:30 PM, taxme said: The libtard is not my leader. Poilievre and Trump are my hero's and show great signs of leadership. Trump is cleaning the house and getting rid of those sick pathetic bunch of commie demonrats that have virtually destroyed America just like the turd in Ottawa has done to Canada. Lefty liberals like you have nothing to be proud of. Manifest Destiny, I have read a fiery gospel writ in burnished rows of steel: “As ye deal with my contemners, so with you my grace shall deal; Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel, Since God is marching on.” Babylon is fallen, with a whack-rowdy-dow, the end is drawing near . . . . . . how are you "neutral" Johnny Bull ? We'll settle next with you; Edited March 3 by Dougie93 Quote
eyeball Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: It appears that way. But I can tell you this. I spoke with my Dad on Sunday and asked him about it. He hates Trump...but hates the Liberals more. How does he like being allied with North Korea? That comes with the package after all. And how far from the tree did the apple fall? 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted March 3 Report Posted March 3 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: How does he like being allied with North Korea? That comes with the package after all. And how far from the tree did the apple fall? Who's allied with NK? You? Pixie-Dust? Far enough to be my own man and close enough to have learned to recognize stupid people who lie...you know...people like you. 2 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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