betsy Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 (edited) Scrapping the Trans Mountain pipeline. Surging the nation with migrants and foreign students. Bad, costly decisions in businesses like EV investments, record-high spendings that gave us a massive debt, funding both UKRAINE and RUSSIA in what we turned into a mickey mouse game, ETC - all of them are billions of dollars down the drain! Trudeau (and his advisor, Carney), Freeland, Joly, all Liberal MPs , Jagmeet Singh and the NDP, Blanchett and the Bloc Quebecois - all of them who propped up Trudeau........ weakening CANADA to her lowest.................... ............they're all in it together! But, it's not over yet. TRUMP had made a recent grand, hair-raising announcement right at the WORLD ECONOMIC CONFERENCE. He issued an invitation to all businesses and investors around the world: lowest tax, and no climate-change policies! https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RqTmRJhmKo8 And as if we're not seeing a record high of businesses gone in Canada already...... Canadian businesses are closing at rates not seen in years https://dailyhive.com/canada/canadian-businesses-closing .......here comes................CARNEY! Promising to scrap the carbon tax, and instead...............will tax the “big polluters!” Who do you think are the “big polluters?” We know they're businesses. BUT, which ones? Imagine the kind of bureaucracy businesses will face under Carney's CLIMATE CHANGE policies? Hahahaha – every investors will be sweating and wondering if they're gonna get taxed! How will they cope? Can they cope and at the same time compete? Who needs all that aggravation when the USA gives a golden deal? Say goodbye to businesses, folks. We're more than getting knee-capped. We're getting executed! Carney will rid CANADA of what businesses remain! Talk about being.........OUT-OF-TOUCH! 🤣 Since polls are showing Canadians prefer Carney to negotiate with Trump – you might as well say, WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER! Edited February 11 by betsy Quote
Barquentine Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 These are trying times. Mind you people have been saying that for thousands of years. O tempora, o mores! But short term thinking (by either side) will only create short term solutions. And while trump implodes the US, China surges in renewables, AI, EVs, fusion,... Course they got their own problems. And Canada needs a much larger population. (Largest country in the world with a population about the size of Tokyo) Needs to be done in a sustainable way, of course, but would create better internal markets. I don't presume to have solutions. But I know blaming everything on one side is lazy thinking. Canada is still a pretty good place to live and Poilevre's "everything is broken" routine is wearing thin. 1 Quote
Aristides Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 The Transmountain expansion wasn't scrapped, it started operation last year. The only thing more pathetic than a US MAGA is a Canadian MAGA. 1 Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 The Liberals literally resurrected the Trans Mountsin pipeline after the private sector opted out. The Chinese bots whose poor English skills betray them should get their stupid lies straight. Quote
blackbird Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 (edited) 3 hours ago, Barquentine said: I don't presume to have solutions. But I know blaming everything on one side is lazy thinking. Canada is still a pretty good place to live and Poilevre's "everything is broken" routine is wearing thin Sounds like you don't know anything. You seem to want to spread the blame to everything and every party when in fact it is clear the Trudeau Liberals with the help of the NDP have done all the damage to this country. You must very young and unread. We get a lot of those kind on here. Edited February 11 by blackbird 1 Quote
blackbird Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 1 hour ago, Chrissy1979 said: The Liberals literally resurrected the Trans Mountsin pipeline after the private sector opted out. You don't seem to know the truth. The Liberal government had absolutely no choice but to take over the Trans Mountain Pipeline and get it finished because it is the only pipeline to tidewater from Alberta. The company pulled out because of the huge costs and endless opposition to it's expansion by the BC NDP, environmentalists, and FNs. Letting it die would have really hurt Canada and Alberta. The Liberals had absolutely no choice. Meanwhile the Liberals killed the Northern Gateway Pipeline and the Energy East pipeline projects on the drawing paper. They brought in Bill C69 to ban tankers from the B.C. north coast. They basically killed any new pipelines and have been working to hamper the growth of the energy industry and stopped export of natural gas to Europe. 1 Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 10 minutes ago, blackbird said: You don't seem to know the truth. The Liberal government had absolutely no choice but to take over the Trans Mountain Pipeline and get it finished because it is the only pipeline to tidewater from Alberta. The company pulled out because of the huge costs and endless opposition to it's expansion by the BC NDP, environmentalists, and FNs. Letting it die would have really hurt Canada and Alberta. The Liberals had absolutely no choice. Meanwhile the Liberals killed the Northern Gateway Pipeline and the Energy East pipeline projects on the drawing paper. They brought in Bill C69 to ban tankers from the B.C. north coast. They basically killed any new pipelines and have been working to hamper the growth of the energy industry and stopped export of natural gas to Europe. Thank you for confirming what I said. Amazing the Chinese bots are trying to spread disinformation that it didn’t happen. It’s almost like they think the Canadian MAGA are too brain dead to figure out the truth. Quote
blackbird Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 7 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: It’s almost like they think the Canadian MAGA are too brain dead to figure out the truth. I don't know what you are talking about. Never heard of a "Canadian MAGA". Sounds like something you pulled out of a hat. Quote
Barquentine Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 24 minutes ago, blackbird said: You must very young and unread. We get a lot of those kind on here. Who are "We"? Do you own, run, rule these forums? Are you the elder statesman, the sage old expert shaking his head with a knowing smile? "I must very young"? Do you actually read what you type? "Those kind"? That's how bigots speak. Try again. Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 15 minutes ago, blackbird said: I don't know what you are talking about. Never heard of a "Canadian MAGA". Sounds like something you pulled out of a hat. Sounds like you’re so embarrassed by having been a Trump supporter, you want to pretend you no longer exist. Quote
blackbird Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 13 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Who are "We"? Do you own, run, rule these forums? Are you the elder statesman, the sage old expert shaking his head with a knowing smile? "I must very young"? Do you actually read what you type? "Those kind"? That's how bigots speak. Try again. 4 hours ago, Barquentine said: I don't presume to have solutions. But I know blaming everything on one side is lazy thinking. Canada is still a pretty good place to live and Poilevre's "everything is broken" routine is wearing thin. OK, I apologize for my above comment if it was little bigoted. I just find your comment trying to blame Conservatives or Poilievre when they have not been the government a little strange. You obviously don't seem to know what has been happening in Canada under the Liberals. You also don't know how government works. Conservatives are not the government and are not responsible for all the disasters created by the Liberal government. You seem confused about that. Quote
blackbird Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 6 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: Sounds like you’re so embarrassed by having been a Trump supporter, you want to pretend you no longer exist. There you go again, accusing me of being a Trump supporter. I don't support Trump. I do agree with a few things he said in the past but not how he does things now. I oppose almost everything he says these days. He has changed completely from what he said in the past. He has become an extremist. Quote
Barquentine Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 4 minutes ago, blackbird said: I just find your comment trying to blame Conservatives or Poilievre when they have not been the government a little strange. I didn't blame Poilevre for anything. I'll wait 'til he's elected to do that. And I admit it might happen. Quote
herbie Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 Amazing how people touting themselves loudest as Conservatives must resort to utter lies and extreme hyperbole. 10 hours ago, betsy said: Scrapping the Trans Mountain pipeline. Surging the nation with migrants and foreign students. Bad, costly decisions in businesses like EV investments, record-high spendings that gave us a massive debt, funding both UKRAINE and RUSSIA in what we turned into a mickey mouse game, ETC - Trudeau didn't scrap that pipeline HE MADE SURE IT GOT BUILT and it's running right now as you post your bullshit EVERY level of govt invested in EV tech We don't FUND other countries, unless you're brain is as warped ad The Doinald we send AID and yes military aid to Ukraine. Dick shit to Russia Oh, you great govt wouldn't have spent anything? You'd cut spending to boost the economy? As ass backward as you are truthful. Quote
Aristides Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 3 hours ago, blackbird said: You don't seem to know the truth. The Liberal government had absolutely no choice but to take over the Trans Mountain Pipeline and get it finished because it is the only pipeline to tidewater from Alberta. The company pulled out because of the huge costs and endless opposition to it's expansion by the BC NDP, environmentalists, and FNs. Letting it die would have really hurt Canada and Alberta. The Liberals had absolutely no choice. Meanwhile the Liberals killed the Northern Gateway Pipeline and the Energy East pipeline projects on the drawing paper. They brought in Bill C69 to ban tankers from the B.C. north coast. They basically killed any new pipelines and have been working to hamper the growth of the energy industry and stopped export of natural gas to Europe. Certainly opposition was a factor when Kinder Morgan backed out of TMX but I also think they realized that there was no way they could build it for 8 billion even without opposition. I had no problem with Northern Gateway being cancelled, a spill on the line or fjord during winter would have been impossible to deal with and very difficult in summer as well. Energy East should have been built. Quote
Army Guy Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 7 hours ago, Barquentine said: These are trying times. Mind you people have been saying that for thousands of years. O tempora, o mores! But short term thinking (by either side) will only create short term solutions. And while trump implodes the US, China surges in renewables, AI, EVs, fusion,... Course they got their own problems. And Canada needs a much larger population. (Largest country in the world with a population about the size of Tokyo) Needs to be done in a sustainable way, of course, but would create better internal markets. I don't presume to have solutions. But I know blaming everything on one side is lazy thinking. Canada is still a pretty good place to live and Poilevre's "everything is broken" routine is wearing thin. I find some of your post confusing....such as internal markets....which according to the media can explain tariffs worth upto 22 %....this issue has been know for ever, and we are just talking about it now, while in crises...this should have been a no brainer to any party really....instead it has remained a topic no one likes to talk about , almost like we enjoy paying higher prices for almost everything.... Immigration, needs to be slowed to a trickle until we can catch up on infrastructure to support them, which is a mess, everything from health care to housing, to schools, to social programs all strained becasue of the excess we have today... Well who do you propose to blame it on, unless your saying these problems are not due to liberal policies and practices...and we should look at exactly what the official opposition job is....holding government to account....could explain all the blaming... Yes his routine is getting old, but when we sit down and start looking at each department that is his responsibility and acessing it's function one could say most of them are broken to some degree...the only ones that seem to complain about this everything is broken is on the left side of the house...soon we will be in the election cycle and we will see first hand what PP policies are going to be....lets judge them as they come out... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Barquentine Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 6 minutes ago, Army Guy said: I find some of your post confusing....such as internal markets....which according to the media can explain tariffs worth upto 22 %....this issue has been know for ever, and we are just talking about it now, while in crises...this should have been a no brainer to any party really....instead it has remained a topic no one likes to talk about , almost like we enjoy paying higher prices for almost everything.... Immigration, needs to be slowed to a trickle until we can catch up on infrastructure to support them, which is a mess, everything from health care to housing, to schools, to social programs all strained becasue of the excess we have today... Well who do you propose to blame it on, unless your saying these problems are not due to liberal policies and practices...and we should look at exactly what the official opposition job is....holding government to account....could explain all the blaming... Yes his routine is getting old, but when we sit down and start looking at each department that is his responsibility and acessing it's function one could say most of them are broken to some degree...the only ones that seem to complain about this everything is broken is on the left side of the house...soon we will be in the election cycle and we will see first hand what PP policies are going to be....lets judge them as they come out... Yeah, I have to agree with most of what you're saying: bring down internal trade barriers, Controlled immigration and looking forward to the election - policies and debates. Quote
blackbird Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 3 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said: Sounds like you’re so embarrassed by having been a Trump supporter, you want to pretend you no longer exist. No, I wasn't really a Trump supporter. I am not an American and don't have a vote on it. I did agree with some of his ideas in the past, but don't agree with the way he is doing things today in many issues. I think he has gone haywire. Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted February 11 Report Posted February 11 1 hour ago, blackbird said: No, I wasn't really a Trump supporter. I am not an American and don't have a vote on it. I did agree with some of his ideas in the past, but don't agree with the way he is doing things today in many issues. I think he has gone haywire. That’s every Canadian Trumper’s story nowadays. Except Polievre. He’s still using the Trump talking points he always used. Quote
blackbird Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Chrissy1979 said: That’s every Canadian Trumper’s story nowadays. Except Polievre. He’s still using the Trump talking points he always used. That's all imaginary in your head. Quote
blackbird Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 1 hour ago, Chrissy1979 said: That’s every Canadian Trumper’s story nowadays. Except Polievre. He’s still using the Trump talking points he always used. No. That is not true. PP doesn't follow Trump. Trump makes some true comments like his comment about Canada not keeping up to its NATO commitments or keeping up its share in defence spending. That is a known fact that everyone agrees with. PP has stated he will do something about that beyond what Liberals are doing. Quote
herbie Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 The guy makes treaties and won't stick to them. USMCA, 30 day reprieve, all his business dealings.... Negotiation is a waste of time, he'll rip it up an hour later and demand more. Quote
Army Guy Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 11 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said: The Liberals literally resurrected the Trans Mountsin pipeline after the private sector opted out. The Chinese bots whose poor English skills betray them should get their stupid lies straight. Tal kabout lies.....The liberals purchased it because Justin would not do anything about the protestors' and all the delays they caused.......so the private sector just said see ya, after they got 10 times what that pipe line was worth. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
500channelsurfer Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 Could crown corporations be an answer to any of the sectors of the economy that may experience decline, as described in betsy's original post? Quote
CdnFox Posted February 12 Report Posted February 12 14 hours ago, Aristides said: The Transmountain expansion wasn't scrapped, it started operation last year. The only thing more pathetic than a US MAGA is a Canadian MAGA. He's clearly thinking of northern gateway. So maybe address the issue instead of just throwing useless insults, which will be returned, at which point you'll complain about people insulting you. Quote
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