Dougie93 Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 14 hours ago, CdnFox said: And you are not standing behind your country by supporting the position of someone threatening it like that. call us when Canada formally declares war against the United States Quote
Army Guy Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 (edited) 15 hours ago, CdnFox said: Really. Well then by all means, tell me precisely what we have to do to satisfy his concerns. What specifically would truhave to do tomorrow for him to say "we're done, you're good" Betcha can't. Trump is not dad and we are not his children. We are two soverign nations and he's threatening us without even presenting demands. And you are not standing behind your country by supporting the position of someone threatening it like that. Quote Lutnick explained that Phase 1 is essentially an emergency action to deal with the fentanyl crisis: "You know that the [drug] labs in Canada are run by Mexican cartels," Lutnick replied. "Respect America. If we are your biggest trading partner, show us the respect. Shut your border. And end fentanyl coming into this country." Although only about one per cent of illegal drugs entering the U.S. is coming from its northern border, U.S. officials are worried about growing drug production in Canada, and the perceived failure of Canadian law-enforcement to crack down on money-laundering activities by international criminal organizations there. Lutnick noted that Canada and Mexico appear to be taking some action. Canada, for instance, has announced a slew of measures on the border, migration and crime that elicited positive reaction from Washington. Ottawa officials have been reaching out to various American counterparts, including Lutnick, and have heard little that left them reassured. One reply they've repeatedly received: They need to personally convince Trump with direct evidence of the security measures Canada has taken. Trump team threatens two phases of tariffs on Canada Note there are two phases, it looks like the second phase will have to do with our trade agreements...It should be noted that Trump has also mentioned not only our border security, but also our national defense...and while we have announced a 1.38 boost to our border leased a few helos it's a great start but i don't think it is going to be enough...it's going to take a much bigger commitment more funding for RCMP and other law enforcement...what he is asking for is going to take a huge effort to curtail...SO my question is how could this not be beneficial to Canada ? There was a total of 49,105 apparent opioid toxicity deaths There were 45,707 reported opioid-related poisoning hospitalizations https://health-infobase.canada.ca/substance-related-harms/opioids-stimulants/#a4 For decades the US and NATO and NORAD have presented plans on a constant basis...what as a nation have we responded to these requests ?....our lack of action has affected US security on many levels...perhaps they should have offered hookers and strippers for everyone...but after decades of no action, they have decided on this tactic...which has got everyone's attention....I mean what were we really expecting ? trump is the leader of the most powerful nation on the planet, he see us as a security threat, he see a weak government, he see Justin as an enemy, he has seen how many time US government official's have asked to have concerns addressed and all the times they have failed... he has 4 years to accomplish his goals and he is not wasting any time or sparing any feelings... Sorry for not standing to attention and saluting the grand poohbah...the one that has brought most of this to this country becasue of his actions or lack off....and now he is waving around the Canadian flag trying to rally the troops...with this call to arms we will fight....instead of fixing the issue and moving onto the next problem because this is just the start.... And when these tariffs come it will be just like the pandemic, more checks , more debt, higher interests rates, this is the path you are following, we will spend billions we can't afford instead a of couple of billion to fix the original issue.... If you think we are going to bring the US to their knees, your delusional, and have feel for justins BS... Edited January 29 by Army Guy Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
herbie Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 Dougie93 is our very own Benedict Arnold, turncoat. Trump is merely upset that he single-handedly disqualifies the USA from being defined as a 'nation' and got left out an invite. Quote
Army Guy Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 18 hours ago, eyeball said: That's because we look at the world stupidly. There's only one direction we'll ever be invaded from. It's nothing a couple of really dirty cobalt bombs couldn't address at a fraction of the cost of GDP x 2%. Better dead than orange I say. If the US wants Canada it could do that over night, in the wee hours you are sleeping only to wake up with American soldiers in your backyard...No amount of dirty cobalt bombs is going to change that...after that we will see how you make out with the better dead than orange... Ya well those willing to defend this country will be quickly overwhelmed and killed or captured, amd i'm almost positive we won't be seeing any of those from the left among them...your great talkers but really lack on the action part... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Dougie93 Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 Just now, herbie said: Dougie93 is our very own Benedict Arnold, turncoat. I'll take that as a compliment since Benedict Arnold sided with the British Crown and actually led the United Empire Loyalists to Canada, he was granted land by the King for his service to the Crown in Renfrew County Upper Canada near what is now Camp Petawawa Quote
eyeball Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 46 minutes ago, Army Guy said: ...after that we will see how you make out with the better dead than orange... We best start with the better Orange than Canadians then I guess. Too bad Doug Ford isn't running for PM, he's got the attitude we need. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted January 29 Author Report Posted January 29 1 hour ago, Dougie93 said: call us when Canada formally declares war against the United States That's supposedly February 1st. According to trump anyway. He has indicated that he wishes to start a trade war and that he intends to try and force the people of Canada to become the 51st state through economic coercion. It's kind of been in the news. That was sort of a dumb thing to say 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Aristides Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, CdnFox said: That's supposedly February 1st. According to trump anyway. He has indicated that he wishes to start a trade war and that he intends to try and force the people of Canada to become the 51st state through economic coercion. It's kind of been in the news. That was sort of a dumb thing to say He says a lot of dumb things. 1 Quote
Nefarious Banana Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 11 minutes ago, eyeball said: We best start with the better Orange than Canadians then I guess. Too bad Doug Ford isn't running for PM, he's got the attitude we need. Do you live in Ontario? Quote
Army Guy Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 4 minutes ago, CdnFox said: That's supposedly February 1st. According to trump anyway. He has indicated that he wishes to start a trade war and that he intends to try and force the people of Canada to become the 51st state through economic coercion. It's kind of been in the news. That was sort of a dumb thing to say Yes he does, but it is how our leadership reacts that we should be concerned with....and so far he is not shown any leadership...except to make things worse... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Aristides Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Yes he does, but it is how our leadership reacts that we should be concerned with....and so far he is not shown any leadership...except to make things worse... You just can't get over Trudeau even though he is history. Sad. Quote
CdnFox Posted January 29 Author Report Posted January 29 3 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Yes he does, but it is how our leadership reacts that we should be concerned with....and so far he is not shown any leadership...except to make things worse... Well as you are alluding to in order to see how our leadership does we will have to wait until we have leadership. 1 minute ago, Aristides said: You just can't get over Trudeau even though he is history. Sad. He is literally prime minister right now. The earliest he's likely to stop being prime minister is may. And even that's questionable because jagmeet is seriously considering backing him because they are doing crappy in the polls. I think you're going to have a tough time claiming that the man who is currently sitting in the Prime Minister seat is history and long gone 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Aristides Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 (edited) 19 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Well as you are alluding to in order to see how our leadership does we will have to wait until we have leadership. He is literally prime minister right now. The earliest he's likely to stop being prime minister is may. And even that's questionable because jagmeet is seriously considering backing him because they are doing crappy in the polls. I think you're going to have a tough time claiming that the man who is currently sitting in the Prime Minister seat is history and long gone No, he is resigning, the Liberals are holding a leadership convention and there will be a new PM by April whether or not Jagmeet props up the government. He is PM as long as he is PM and fighting among ourselves because we don't like him is self defeating. I don't like him either but the country is more important than any one person. Edited January 29 by Aristides Quote
eyeball Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 18 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said: Do you live in Ontario? Nope, and I also live in Canada. Did you know Ontario is in Canada? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Dougie93 Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 (edited) 32 minutes ago, CdnFox said: That's supposedly February 1st. According to trump anyway. He has indicated that he wishes to start a trade war and that he intends to try and force the people of Canada to become the 51st state through economic coercion. a "trade war" is not a war, Canadian soldiers are not being mobilized to fight the Americans over tariffs Canada has plenty of protectionist measures of its own, many that the Americans do not have the idea that Canada is going to war against protectionism is silly Edited January 29 by Dougie93 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 29 Author Report Posted January 29 Just now, Aristides said: No, he is resigning, No he has announced his intention to resign at some point in the future. He has not actually resigned. If an election was called tomorrow he would be the person leading the liberal election campaign. If trump creates a trade war tomorrow he will be the one in charge of responding Virtually every party leader will resign one day. But right now he is the Prime minister of Canada. Quote the Liberals are holding a leadership convention and there will be a new PM by April whether or not Jagmeet props up the government. And is this April? No? So what you're saying is what I claimed was 100% accurate and he's currently the prime minister Quote He is PM as long as he is PM and fighting among ourselves because we don't like him is self defeating. I don't like him either but the country is more important than any one person. Sorry that's not the way it works. Not to mention the fact that the liberals that backed him are still the liberals who will be in power. Nothing will have changed. If you want him to be history then he should resign this very moment but he chose not to. And his party won't be changing either way until the next election. And you don't get to say sorry we screwed you over for 10 years and let this guy run amok but you have to forgive us of that right now because we would find it convenient for you to do so. If Canadians suffer for it then Canadians can learn the powerful lesson that if you put someone like him in power you may pay a horrible price and maybe they won't do it the next time. You cannot blame us for other people's bad choices 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: Nope, and I also live in Canada. Did you know Ontario is in Canada? For now. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Dougie93 Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 42 minutes ago, eyeball said: We best start with the better Orange than Canadians then I guess. Too bad Doug Ford isn't running for PM, he's got the attitude we need. suddenly the butt hurt leftists are all running to Doug Ford Trump is awesome Quote
Aristides Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: a "trade war" is not a war, Canadian soldiers are not being mobilized to fight the Americans over tariffs Canada has plenty of protectionist measures of its own, many that the Americans do not have the idea that Canada is going to war against protectionism is silly We have a trade agreement that Trump negotiated, Kind shows the futility of negotiating anything with Trump because he will only honour it until he finds it convenient not too. Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 Just now, Aristides said: We have a trade agreement that Trump negotiated, Kind shows the futility of negotiating anything with Trump because he will only honour it until he finds it convenient not too. trade agreements are subject to renegotiation new measures can be imposed outside of the existing agreements like when Trudeau imposed a Digital Services Tax on the Americans out of the blue Trump is just giving Canada a taste of its own medicine Quote
eyeball Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: suddenly the butt hurt leftists are all running to Doug Ford Better Doug than Orange. 6 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: the idea that Canada is going to war against protectionism is silly The idea of a Canadian soldier with his tongue up Trump's ass is sad. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Aristides Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 Just now, Dougie93 said: trade agreements are subject to renegotiation new measures can be imposed outside of the existing agreements like when Trudeau imposed a Digital Services Tax on the Americans out of the blue Trump is just giving Canada a taste of its own medicine Yes, it is due to be reviewed in 2026. It's in the agreement. The US arbitrarily imposes sottwood lumber tariffs all the time. If something is not covered in the agreement either country can do as it sees fit. Quote
Aristides Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Better Doug than Orange. The idea of a Canadian soldier with his tongue up Trump's ass is sad. That it is. Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 1 minute ago, eyeball said: Better Doug than Orange. The idea of a Canadian soldier with his tongue up Trump's ass is sad. me ? I never endorsed Trump and I didn't vote for him I just enjoy seeing absurdly hypocritical Canada get its comeuppance the Democrats imposed tariffs on Canada too, and they will be jumping on the Trump protectionist bandwagon next, because its very popular with the electorate Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 1 minute ago, Aristides said: That it is. well I'm not sad, I'm laughing my ass off at Woke Progressive lunatic leftist Free Rider Canada getting its ass handed to it by the Republicans just desserts Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 11 minutes ago, Aristides said: Yes, it is due to be reviewed in 2026. It's in the agreement. The US arbitrarily imposes sottwood lumber tariffs all the time. If something is not covered in the agreement either country can do as it sees fit. cry me a river, Woke Progressive Commie Canada you made yourselves into the farm team for the Democrats; reap what you sowed Quote
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