eyeball Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 6 minutes ago, CdnFox said: No he doesn't. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
blackbird Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 48 minutes ago, eyeball said: If you didn't get this it's because you earned too much. Quit your sniveling, man up and get control of yourself. You're lying. I don't recall even hearing about any rebate from 2008 to 2016. Probably never came in until later. 50 minutes ago, eyeball said: No one can control the climate. What? I thought that was the whole purpose of carbon taxes. So you are lying again claiming climate change is not the reason for carbon taxes. So why are you supporting it? Just because you can and be ornery. 52 minutes ago, eyeball said: The intent is to encourage you to control how much CO2 you emit. If you are a heavy emitter you are free to invest in technology that emits less thereby reducing the amount of tax you pay. Lying again. The excuse for carbon taxes has been to control climate change. 1 Quote
blackbird Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 48 minutes ago, eyeball said: Humans cannot control the climate but we can certainly change it though. Oh, so we can't control the climate but we can change it? Contradicting yourself in one sentence is a sign of dementia or some mental problem. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 14 minutes ago, blackbird said: The excuse for carbon taxes has been to control climate change Is there an official policy document that specifically says the tax is an excuse? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 13 minutes ago, blackbird said: Oh, so we can't control the climate but we can change it? Can you show me a dictionary where control and change are defined as meaning the same thing? They're not even synonymous with each other. 18 minutes ago, blackbird said: Contradicting yourself in one sentence is a sign of dementia or some mental problem. Then you should probably get yourself checked out for these. I'd suggest an MRI scan. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 27 minutes ago, blackbird said: What? I thought that was the whole purpose of carbon taxes. So you are lying again claiming climate change is not the reason for carbon taxes. So why are you supporting it? Just because you can and be ornery. Anthropogenic climate change is definitely why we have a carbon tax - to control the emissions of CO2 causing it. Why do you insist on lying about the meaning of the terms change and control? Have you found a dictionary or thesaurus to corroborate your definition(s). 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
herbie Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 Canada’s best response to Donald Trump’s aggression? Socialism Quote To truly resist American aggression, we need a solution that includes nationalization, economic planning and worker ownership—in other words, socialism. Just so we're not overwhelmed by the corporate bullshit parading as "solutions". 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 1 hour ago, eyeball said: I get angry when you constantly make me look bad. I understand. That's why you like to misquote me. You don't seem to like the reverse tho But i guess you think it beats actually trying to defend your indefensible positions. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Is there an official policy document that specifically says the tax is an excuse? Yes. The federal carbon pollution pricing benchmark - Canada.ca Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Anthropogenic climate change is definitely why we have a carbon tax - History has proven you wrong. The carbon tax has failed to have any effect on anthropogenic climate change or any other form of climate change. You failed. And now you want to continue the failure and even have more failure because of your woke ideology. You ignore the science and try and claim anyone who opposes you is some sort of denier. This is why the left is falling out of favor everywhere I don't agree with @blackbird On all that much but he's absolutely correct here and you're not looking terribly bright for claiming otherwise 20 minutes ago, herbie said: Canada’s best response to Donald Trump’s aggression? Socialism Just so we're not overwhelmed by the corporate bullshit parading as "solutions". Socialists claim that socialism is the solution for everything whenever there's a problem. They are universally wrong. Although I will confess that if you have enough socialism half the people starve and the other half are reduced to abject poverty and that is bound to reduce emissions at some point Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Army Guy Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 On 1/18/2025 at 6:19 PM, herbie said: She's not a demon, just a f*cking traitor. An entire career of nothing but picking fights with Ottawa, we're not surprised at all she's back stabbed her own country. Deport her to the USA where she'd be happy and could run for office somewhere people gave a shit about her beloved State's rights above that of their own country. What exactly makes her a traitor ? Omar Khadr was a traitor, and we gave him 10 million dollars, and fixed up his family for life.....Because that is how we roll..... is it because she does not want to get behind a liberal backed fight that has a short period of life....at least until the conservatives get in...BTW her job is to overlook and protect Albertain jobs and their welfare....To be honest every premier has picked fights with Ottawa she is not alone in this matter...Liberal inaction has brought us to this point in time...CBSA has for years been telling us , the media and government that our border security sucks...Now trump tells us fix it or face tariffs and everyone got a knot on "hey you can't push us around" well if you had looked after your own house they would not need to tell us anything right.... As for Canadians who feign shock or dismay, where were you when CBSA was telling everyone about the border, or even where were you when everyone was complaining about our entire security apparatus....US governments have for decades been asking us nicely to fix our own problems, and now that someone is slapping us in the face and telling us to fix it or else everyone is pissed ...how dare they....tell us what to do...WE let this happen, and now WE are going to have to fix it....NOOO...we got to pick a fight with the biggest guy on the planet....because we are id!ots...and now the liberals are pointing fingers at anyone that sh!t will stick to, Thats their signature trademark.... You and Michael fell for it hook line and sinker....pretending we are united is a joke, pretending this issue is going to bring us together is another joke....a change in government is going to bring us together ... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 4 hours ago, blackbird said: Oh, so we can't control the climate but we can change it? You remind me of those Christians hundreds of years ago who couldn't stomach the thought of having to eat fish on Friday so they convinced themselves that rabbits were a type of fish. You Christians have a real knack for performing all sorts of mental gymnastics to suspend your disbelief. More rational AGW deniers who should know better simply don't give a shit. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
cougar Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 On 1/18/2025 at 3:37 PM, blackbird said: Oil and gas is the main industry in Alberta. Oil and gas are on their way out. They were not the main industry in Alberta 30 years ago, or were they? Albertans should go back to farming and being happy with less. Quote
eyeball Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: I don't agree with @blackbird On all that much but he's absolutely correct here He's profoundly misinformed to the point of being delusion and putatively rational politicians like Poilievre should be profoundly ashamed of themselves for encouraging him and millions like him. This abundance of misinformed people is what's made it so easy for putative AGW activists like Trudeau, Carney and other cowardly so-called lefties to put on a good show of concern and conviction but with little to no courage when it comes to action. If this is what passes for much of the common sense Poilievre is tapping into it stands as clear evidence of how decades of dedicated denial has been an absolutely smashing success. Good job, you must all be so proud of yourselves. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
herbie Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 47 minutes ago, cougar said: Oil and gas are on their way out Yet even letting them die a slow death for their own accord is too much for many. Drill drill drill expand. F*ck up the environment as fast as you can, even when you're not the one benefitting. Defend Elon's right to %500 billion, some day magic ponies will make you rich like him. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 2 hours ago, Army Guy said: ...pretending we are united is a joke, pretending this issue is going to bring us together is another joke....a change in government is going to bring us together ... Sure, just wait until AGW really brings us all together. When the waterhole shrinks the animals get meaner. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
SpankyMcFarland Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 I don’t think she should have gone down to Florida to meet Trump off her own bat and push a separate agenda from the rest of Canada. That’s behaving like a foreign minister or prime minister of a country. At the very least it’s dangerous. 47 minutes ago, eyeball said: Sure, just wait until AGW really brings us all together. When the waterhole shrinks the animals get meaner. If PP wants to bring us together he will have to change his tune so much. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 17 hours ago, eyeball said: He's profoundly misinformed to the point of being delusion and putatively rational politicians like Poilievre should be profoundly ashamed of themselves for encouraging him and millions like him. This abundance of misinformed people is what's made it so easy for putative AGW activists like Trudeau, Carney and other cowardly so-called lefties to put on a good show of concern and conviction but with little to no courage when it comes to action. If this is what passes for much of the common sense Poilievre is tapping into it stands as clear evidence of how decades of dedicated denial has been an absolutely smashing success. Good job, you must all be so proud of yourselves. So what you're saying is he's right in this case and you're butt hurt about it Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 16 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: If PP wants to bring us together he will have to change his tune so much. Will he? In what way? when the truckers were mad he said that canadian leaders should listen to them even if they didn't wind up agreeing. He's said the provinces should be left to be in charge of provincial responsibilities and not be unterfered with, which is a major source of division. He's said he wants to focus on opportunity for everyone and economic matters to bring prosperity rather than divisive social issues like justin did. And so far hes refrained from calling canadians wastes of space, bigots and misogynists and intolerable just for having a different opinion. All of which is what divided us under justin. So how exactly is he not better than what we've got? Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 11 minutes ago, CdnFox said: So what you're saying is he's right in this case and you're butt hurt about it Now I'm saying you're both so far out to lunch it's not funny. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 1 minute ago, eyeball said: Now I'm saying you're both so far out to lunch it's not funny. Says the guy who claimed that making mp's wear body cams 24/7 would solve corruption in gov't LOLOLOL And said it's harper's fault that justin breaks the law LOL sure kid Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: So how exactly is he not better than what we've got? He's the same, more interested in his own power than anything else. Just another run of mill right winger. Just like Justin. Takes one to know one. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: He's the same, more interested in his own power than anything else. Just another run of mill right winger. Just like Justin. Prove it. Show me where you see that. So far he's been the opposite of justin. You just say random crap that pops into your head to make yourself feel better about your trash choice in voting for the left in the past don't you 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Legato Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 28 minutes ago, eyeball said: Now I'm saying you're both so far out to lunch it's not funny. Yeah but now we ate and you're still butthurt. 1 Quote
Army Guy Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 18 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: I don’t think she should have gone down to Florida to meet Trump off her own bat and push a separate agenda from the rest of Canada. That’s behaving like a foreign minister or prime minister of a country. At the very least it’s dangerous. If PP wants to bring us together he will have to change his tune so much. OK thats your opinion, meanwhile our government was doing what exactly, she did not like the direction our government was going in, it's a weak position, from weak leadership, that today is irrelevant, everyone knows it....i don't want justin to have anything to do with this crises, nor any of his dead beat staff...Trump smells blood in the water... Her job is to do what exactly....sit back and let a failed liberal government save the day....i don't think so... All PP has to do is show a little leadership and Canadians will come flocking to him, we as a nation have been starved of leadership under the liberals....The liberals have set the bar pretty low...my pet gopher could make those standards.... 19 hours ago, eyeball said: Sure, just wait until AGW really brings us all together. When the waterhole shrinks the animals get meaner. Well for the next decade or so, the left is going to get a whole lot meaner, if they ever want to run the country again... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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