Its Official - trudeau is gone and the race is on!

[CdnFox]

Trudeau to resign as prime minister after Liberal leadership race | CBC News

So he's had to admit his failure and has been forced to resign. LOL

So now the leadership race is going to have to shape up.  THe house is only prorogued till end of march. They have to finish the race by then and they're almost certain to go to an election immediately after that. 

That means one of the shortest leadership races in Canadian history. Basically slightly less than 3 months. 

First the liberal party will have to set the rules, that will include how much it'll cost to run (expect it to be hIgh), how they'll vote and if there's any debates etc.  That will be interesting. 

Then people will have to decide who will run. 

Likely conteders are:

Carney,

Freeland

Leblanc

Cristie Clarke amazingly enough, she's shown a lot of interest

Jolie

There's a couple of maybes such as champaign but those are the ones most likely to toss their hats. 

The real question will be, can any of them actually improve the liberals chances?  The PC party thought swapping in a new leader last minute in the form of kim campbell would help, and that destroyed the party.  The dems though swapping in a new leader in the form of kamala would help and they got slaughtered.   Will swapping horses midstream work for the liberals this time?

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[Politics1990]

christie clark is laughable  hope she gets last place like she deserves lol

[Legato]

6 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Redundant thread:

 

Expected? Not too sure etc.

That was a redundant post.

[CdnFox]

16 minutes ago, Legato said:

Expected? Not too sure etc.

That was a redundant post.

Well he's a redundant guy  

Anyway as you say it's not a question mark any more, it's the reality and the next issue is the leadership race, who's going to be in it and win it, and will it make any difference

They'll probably take today to say goodbye to good ole unicorn farts first but they'll be announcing their intentions to run starting tomorow i would think

Edited January 6 by CdnFox

[Legato]

[herbie]

1 hour ago, Politics1990 said:

christie clark is laughable  hope she gets last place like she deserves lol

No she's not. She was a Liberal that led the conservatives when that party name was dirt in BC. She's unknown to the ROC which is why she probably will be last.
Besides, she wasn't a bow down and surrender money which is why the ultra-right on this forum would hate her guts.
She is a fresh undirtied face federally that might appeal to many.

Edited January 6 by herbie

[Moonlight Graham]

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

No she's not. She was a Liberal that led the conservatives when that party name was dirt in BC. She's unknown to the ROC which is why she probably will be last.
Besides, she wasn't a bow down and surrender money which is why the ultra-right on this forum would hate her guts.
She is a fresh undirtied face federally that might appeal to many.

?????

Uhhh she led the conservatives?  She was premier under the liberal party banner not the conservative one. And it would have been the right wing voters who supported her  sooooo....

You don't really know anything at all about politics do you. 

[Army Guy]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

No she's not. She was a Liberal that led the conservatives when that party name was dirt in BC. She's unknown to the ROC which is why she probably will be last.
Besides, she wasn't a bow down and surrender money which is why the ultra-right on this forum would hate her guts.
She is a fresh undirtied face federally that might appeal to many.

Seeing how we are talking about the Liberal party right now i don't think it matters what the ultra right think of her...they are not voting for any leftist party....

[athos]

 

Tramp becomes head of Canadian state

 

 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Legato said:

Yeah. 

And they're going to run into a real problem. Leadership races tend to be messy things. It's hard not to accuse the other people running of various things to try and make yourself look better. And those things tend to come back and haunt whoever wins, Especially if that happens right before an election.

There's no doubt whoever wins the leadership is going to go straight into an election almost immediately which means they'll have all of the mud slinging from the leadership campaign to wear and they won't have any time to Rebrand themselves or prepare before facing the electorate

And with a shortened run they're not going to get much time in front of the cameras during the leadership race either. So it's not like they're going to be well known by Canadians by the end of it, most people don't pay that much attention to politics especially at this time of the year and they're not going to be paying close attention to a leadership race for the liberals. And with the exception of Christina the rest of the people are barely known in Canada outside of the political Junkies

[CdnFox]

One of the biggest challenges any leadership hopeful is going to face is they are going to have to put out their policy priorities as part of the leadership race and then immediately go into an election. Basically that means that they are going to have to tip their hand as to what their election platform is going to be before the election starts.

That will give the conservatives a huge advantage. The liberals leaders message will already be getting stale by the time the election starts, whereas the conservative positions will all be fresh and gather much media attention in an election itself. Additionally they can specifically be fine-tuned to a liberal message.

Technically the NDP would have the same advantage but they generally don't put out significant policy documents the same way. But it all heaps on the growing pile of challenges a new leader running a super fast leadership race with the liberal track record behind him will face

[taxme]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Trudeau to resign as prime minister after Liberal leadership race | CBC News

So he's had to admit his failure and has been forced to resign. LOL

So now the leadership race is going to have to shape up.  THe house is only prorogued till end of march. They have to finish the race by then and they're almost certain to go to an election immediately after that. 

That means one of the shortest leadership races in Canadian history. Basically slightly less than 3 months. 

First the liberal party will have to set the rules, that will include how much it'll cost to run (expect it to be hIgh), how they'll vote and if there's any debates etc.  That will be interesting. 

Then people will have to decide who will run. 

Likely conteders are:

Carney,

Freeland

Leblanc

Cristie Clarke amazingly enough, she's shown a lot of interest

Jolie

There's a couple of maybes such as champaign but those are the ones most likely to toss their hats. 

The real question will be, can any of them actually improve the liberals chances?  The PC party thought swapping in a new leader last minute in the form of kim campbell would help, and that destroyed the party.  The dems though swapping in a new leader in the form of kamala would help and they got slaughtered.   Will swapping horses midstream work for the liberals this time?

Cristie Clarke was surprising. I never thought that she was a lefty liberal. Whatever goes on in the next few months, the dictator in Ottawa will still be pretty much running the show for now. But it is great to see both Freeland and Turdeau gone from the scene for now not that much will change. It will be Canada as usual until the next election when hopefully the Conservative party wins the next election. The election cannot come sooner enough for me. 

 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, taxme said:

Cristie Clarke was surprising. I never thought that she was a lefty liberal. Whatever goes on in the next few months, the dictator in Ottawa will still be pretty much running the show for now. But it is great to see both Freeland and Turdeau gone from the scene for now not that much will change. It will be Canada as usual until the next election when hopefully the Conservative party wins the next election. The election cannot come sooner enough for me. 

 

Well I think her argument is going to be that she really isn't a lefty liberal. I think her argument is going to be that the liberal party has to get back to kitchen table and economic issues and away from wokeismgross over spending and that she is the one that can deliver that while still being socially aware and not destroying our systems.

Basically she'll claim she can be right for the rights and left for the left and everyone will be happy. I don't know if she'll be able to sell that but I suspect that would be her pitch

Freeland may very well run for leadership. I wouldn't say she's gone just yet. She probably has the best chance of winning a leadership race. She's close with carney so it's possible that one or the other may back out to let the other run.

Obviously nothing will change. It will be a caretaker government until the election is over, probably sometime in may. Which is pretty horrible considering that we are going to have trump to deal with and a bunch of other critical issues that now aren't going to happen or get addressed because the liberals have decided to put Canada on pause while they sort their own crap out to the detriment of everyone else instead of having dealt with it before

[Scott75]

An article published today on Trudeau's departure that I liked:

https://www.soniaelijah.com/p/breaking-trudeau-steps-down

Quoting from the article:

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On January 28, 2022, in response to the “Freedom Convoy” of Canadian truckers making their way to Ottawa’s Parliament Hill to protest against Canada’s Covid-19 vaccine mandates, Trudeau infamously said:

“The small fringe minority of people who are on their way to Ottawa who are holding unacceptable views that they are expressing do not represent the views of Canadians who have been there for each other, who know of that following the science and stepping up to protect each other is the best way to continue to ensure our freedoms, our rights, our values, as a country.”

[snip]

A record-breaking convoy of 60,000 truckers from Western Canada and 12,000 truckers from the Eastern region, eventually converged at Parliament Hill in Ottawa, on January 29, 2022. For almost three weeks, Canada’s capital city grinded to a halt. Alongside the truckers, thousands of additional protesters from across Canada and even from other countries joined in, with many camping out in their vehicles during the protest.

However, on February 14, marking a historic first for Canada, Justin Trudeau invoked the Emergencies Act to address the truckers' protest. This unprecedented act granted Trudeau’s government sweeping authoritarian powers, including the ability to ban gatherings at certain locations.

Moreover, under the Emergencies Act, banks were given the power to freeze personal and business accounts of individuals and entities linked to the protests without the need for court orders. This measure was aimed at severing financial support for the truckers in order to break up the protest.

Significantly, Trudeau’s draconian decision was later ruled as "unreasonable" and "unconstitutional" by a Canadian judge in January 2024.

Now, three years after the Canadian truckers’ epic protest, it can be said “the small fringe minority” finally got their wish- Trudeau’s resignation.

**

Edited January 7 by Scott75
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[CdnFox]

OHO!!!  We have our first candidate and it's a bit of a surprise!

Businessman and former Grit MP Baylis first out of the gate to announce bid for Liberal leadership - The Hill Times

I've never even heard of the guy.  This leadership race may wind up more crowded than we thought which will be very bad for the libs

[taxme]

On 1/6/2025 at 11:24 AM, CdnFox said:

Trudeau to resign as prime minister after Liberal leadership race | CBC News

So he's had to admit his failure and has been forced to resign. LOL

So now the leadership race is going to have to shape up.  THe house is only prorogued till end of march. They have to finish the race by then and they're almost certain to go to an election immediately after that. 

That means one of the shortest leadership races in Canadian history. Basically slightly less than 3 months. 

First the liberal party will have to set the rules, that will include how much it'll cost to run (expect it to be hIgh), how they'll vote and if there's any debates etc.  That will be interesting. 

Then people will have to decide who will run. 

Likely conteders are:

Carney,

Freeland

Leblanc

Cristie Clarke amazingly enough, she's shown a lot of interest

Jolie

There's a couple of maybes such as champaign but those are the ones most likely to toss their hats. 

The real question will be, can any of them actually improve the liberals chances?  The PC party thought swapping in a new leader last minute in the form of kim campbell would help, and that destroyed the party.  The dems though swapping in a new leader in the form of kamala would help and they got slaughtered.   Will swapping horses midstream work for the liberals this time?

Good riddance to bad rubbage. Why didn't the buffoon just call an election and get it over with. The buffoon did not have to quit. The people would do that for him by voting the arse hole out in the next election. Now, we all must play another one of his silly ass liberal mind games while the people must wait for their turn to oust the liberals in the next election. Whoever becomes the leader of the liberal party will make no difference. The polls show that the Conservative party is ready to take over. The liberals are burnt toast. 🤣 

[taxme]

On 1/6/2025 at 11:32 AM, DUI_Offender said:

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And this coming from a redundant lefty troll fool himself. Just saying. LOL.

[CdnFox]

33 minutes ago, taxme said:

Good riddance to bad rubbage. Why didn't the buffoon just call an election and get it over with. The buffoon did not have to quit. The people would do that for him by voting the arse hole out in the next election. Now, we all must play another one of his silly ass liberal mind games while the people must wait for their turn to oust the liberals in the next election. Whoever becomes the leader of the liberal party will make no difference. The polls show that the Conservative party is ready to take over. The liberals are burnt toast. 🤣 

Honestly I think that would have been the best thing for everybody. Take everyone by surprise, call an instant election and go as hard as possible rewriting history about your achievements and rekindling some of that charm and fire and take your lumps. He still wouldn't have won but they might have been able to save some of the furniture

Obviously they avoided that because they knew they would take a beating and are trying somehow to hold on to the belief that maybe some white knight might appear that can solve all of their problems and sweep them back into power. The fact is it might very well go the other way and whoever takes over might very well Kim Campbell the party. But I think they believe if they can find someone who can talk like Poilievre and convince everybody that the last 10 years was just a bad dream and that the liberals will be very different moving forward that at the very least maybe they could win enough seats not to completely collapse. But that may yet blow up in their face

[cannuck]

while I certainly won't have a dog in this race, I do think Christi Freespend really deserves the job to be PM for a day.  She earned that right by standing up to the Little Turd.  Worth mentioning: while Jughead propped up his government until his pension was fully vested he put us in a position of having no leadership and no effective government going into a most critical phase of Can/USA relations.  His personal greed also could result in someone who was not even elected or possibly has never actually run for office becoming PM.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, cannuck said:

while I certainly won't have a dog in this race, I do think Christi Freespend really deserves the job to be PM for a day.  She earned that right by standing up to the Little Turd.  Worth mentioning: while Jughead propped up his government until his pension was fully vested he put us in a position of having no leadership and no effective government going into a most critical phase of Can/USA relations.  His personal greed also could result in someone who was not even elected or possibly has never actually run for office becoming PM.

The thing is a day is about all she would get. Almost immediately after winning the leadership she would face an election with no time to spare.

An election she will lose badly. And given the liberals track record we will not give her a chance to fight again but rather we'll go to a full length leadership race and she'll get kicked to the curb.

Not saying she doesn't deserve that, but she would be absolutely insane to run right now. I know they keep saying she's considering running but honestly how could you not have enough intelligence to see what's going to happen? She would be so much better sitting this one out and letting someone else get clobbered by poilievre and then jump into the race that follows where she'd have four years to set herself apart from Trudeau and organize for a real election

[cannuck]

7 hours ago, CdnFox said:

 

Not saying she doesn't deserve that, but she would be absolutely insane to run right now. I know they keep saying she's considering running but honestly how could you not have enough intelligence to see what's going to happen?

She willingly and actively participated in the wanton destruction of Canadian culture and economic well being, ran up an unsustainable debt on our grandchildrens' backs and stood proudly beside an arrogant fool  who made Canada the laughing stock within global diplomacy for 10 years.  Her intellectual acuity has already been demonstrated. 

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, cannuck said:

She willingly and actively participated in the wanton destruction of Canadian culture and economic well being, ran up an unsustainable debt on our grandchildrens' backs and stood proudly beside an arrogant fool  who made Canada the laughing stock within global diplomacy for 10 years.  Her intellectual acuity has already been demonstrated. 

All good points but even she has to see the writing on the wall here.

[taxme]

19 hours ago, cannuck said:

while I certainly won't have a dog in this race, I do think Christi Freespend really deserves the job to be PM for a day.  She earned that right by standing up to the Little Turd.  Worth mentioning: while Jughead propped up his government until his pension was fully vested he put us in a position of having no leadership and no effective government going into a most critical phase of Can/USA relations.  His personal greed also could result in someone who was not even elected or possibly has never actually run for office becoming PM.

Maybe they can get his son to run for the leadership? There was the old man, then there was his young punk kid, and now there is the young punks kid. Maybe make it a tri-fecta. I am pretty sure that there are still some lefty liberal dummies out there who would like to see that happen. Let's get his kid in there and let him finish off this gawd forsaken sad and pathetic country. Maybe it is time to join America. Could it be much worse? 🤔