Nearly half of Canadians favour mass deportations and 65% think there are too many immigrants: poll

[CdnFox]

Nearly half of Canadians favour mass deportations: poll | National Post

Nearly half of all Canadians believe that mass deportations are necessary to stop illegal migration, new polling shows.

A Leger poll done for the Association for Canadian Studies found that 48 per cent of Canadians hold that view — just once percentage point shy of Americans polled who, with the election of Donald Trump, could see such a policy enacted when he assumes office next year.

The polling also found that 65 per cent of Canadians say Canada is accepting too many legal immigrants. That figure, less than a year ago in February, was just 50 per cent. In March 2019, only 35 per cent of Canadians held that view.

 

Wow. Honestly Justin has achieved what I would have thought was impossible. He's not just turning the country against more immigration but he's turning the country in favor of large scale deportations. He has screwed up immigration so bad that Canadians after 160 years are now literally in favor of throwing out more people than we bring in forcibly if necessary, and then bringing in far fewer

That is the legacy of the woke

[CITIZEN_2015]

The problem is not so much number of immigrants but rather the quality of immigrants, Canada needs immigrants. Our population growth will come to a halt without it and future pension and services adversely affected.

Immigration program is not a charity (Argus said this first 5 years ago on this forum, he was right). Immigrants are supposed to help Canada and improve the lives of Canadians and many do but many comes without skills and education becoming a burden on tax payers, and over overloaded health and education services. Not to mention cultural incompatibility. And yes those who have their loyalty to another country or do not accept the cultural values in Canada must be deported, legal immigrants or illegal.

Edited December 13, 2024 by CITIZEN_2015

[herbie]

3 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

the quality of immigrants

Reveal your true self to the world why don't you?

[Legato]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Reveal your true self to the world why don't you?

How long ago was your coming out party?

[CITIZEN_2015]

5 hours ago, herbie said:

Reveal your true self to the world why don't you?

I don't have to reveal anything. My true self is well known.

I believe in scientifically proven facts not fiction or stories told 2000 or 1400 years ago. I believe in evolution and some people have evolved more than others. Not everyone can become scientists, doctors and engineers and researchers but some can. Not everyone is a model in looks or healthy or athletic or pretty or handsome but some are. Some are intelligent thinking but some still live in 6th century and believe in backward ideologists based on lack of respect for women and lack of respect for human rights and freedom.

People are NOT equal. We must attract the best into Canada similar to many companies when hiring they interview and hire the best. Better or worse is among all races so if you wish to accuse me of racism, this probably is not very true.

Edited December 13, 2024 by CITIZEN_2015

[Aristides]

You can't deport someone who entered legally unless they overstay or violate their visa or commit a crime. Not even Trump is advocating deporting people who are in the US legally.

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I'm surprised that the number of people who think there are too many immigrants, is only 65%. It is a huge problem, considering we are in a virtual recession, and in Alberta the unemployment rate is at 8%. Too many Indians have been admitted. We need to curtail immigration from Asia, since we are admitting far too many people from that part of the World. 

Companies are hiring Indians and Filipinos only, since they know that first generation Asians are not used to civil and workers rights, and will never complain. It erodes the health and safety of the workers, and drives down the cost of labour. We should only be admitting tons of immigrants if the unemployment rate drops below 4%. 

As for mass deportations, I am against it, in a pragmatic sense. It would cost billions to track down the 4 million temporary residents. I am all for tightening laws, and increasing scrutiny when people overstay their welcome though. I just think it would be impractical to try and deport that many people in a short period of time. 

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4 minutes ago, Aristides said:

You can't deport someone who entered legally unless they overstay or violate their visa or commit a crime. Not even Trump is advocating deporting people who are in the US legally.

Trump is doing this. He is threatening to deport the children of migrant workers, who were born in the United States. Some are as old as 15, and have fully integrated into American society.  14th amendment makes it clear that these people should be protected citizens. 

[Aristides]

Just now, DUI_Offender said:

Trump is doing this. He is threatening to deport the children of migrant workers, who were born in the United States. Some are as old as 15, and have fully integrated into American society.  14th amendment makes it clear that these people should be protected citizens. 

He will have to change the law to do that and I don't think you can remove a person's citizenship retroactively, certainly without cause. People should think carefully if they support this. If one US born person's citizenship can be revoked, any one's can.  It will be interesting to see what the SCOTUS says if he tries.

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13 minutes ago, Aristides said:

He will have to change the law to do that and I don't think you can remove a person's citizenship retroactively, certainly without cause. People should think carefully if they support this. If one US born person's citizenship can be revoked, any one's can.  It will be interesting to see what the SCOTUS says if he tries.

The irony is, that if Trump follows through on his threat to repeal the 14th amendment, most of his family could be deported (Don Jr, Erk, Ivanka, Melania, and Barron).

[CdnFox]

12 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

The irony is, that if Trump follows through on his threat to repeal the 14th amendment, most of his family could be deported (Don Jr, Erk, Ivanka, Melania, and Barron).

First off trump can't repeal the 14th amendment without the state's agreeing to it. The president can't just squash an amendment, even congress can't

Second off, we're peeling it wouldn't automatically deprive anybody of their citizenship it may impact things moving forward or it may open the door to legislation which could under certain circumstances remove citizenship that's not the same thing.

But congratulations on some serious next level fear-mongering  

You want to make a bet right now? I bet in the year 2028 none of Trump's family  has been deported   

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3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

First off trump can't repeal the 14th amendment without the state's agreeing to it. The president can't just squash an amendment, even congress can't

Second off, we're peeling it wouldn't automatically deprive anybody of their citizenship it may impact things moving forward or it may open the door to legislation which could under certain circumstances remove citizenship that's not the same thing.

You should tell that to your Orange God.

[CdnFox]

40 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

You should tell that to your Orange God.

LOL Whenever you're wrong somehow it's my fault and trump gets called an orange god

So I take it you're not going to make the bet   well no problem. We both know you wouldn't have made good on it anyway even if you lost

[CITIZEN_2015]

15 hours ago, Aristides said:

You can't deport someone who entered legally unless they overstay or violate their visa or commit a crime. Not even Trump is advocating deporting people who are in the US legally.

Trump is too leftist.

[herbie]

15 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

Trump is doing this. He is threatening to deport the children of migrant workers, who were born in the United States

He is again demonstrating how big of a m0ron he is as they are citizens and can't be 'deported'. He can deport the parents, and the children wold have to choose to go with them. Even if they did, they could walk back through the border legally the minute they were 18.

[Dougie93]

so called "Canada" is not capable of implementing mass deportations

the Woke Progressive Post National failed state

is not capable of performing even the most rudimentary functions of governance

prepare to be living in the ruins of a fallen civilization therein

the final act of the defunct British Empire is a descent into chaos

Britain, Canada, Australia & New Zealand ; all spiralling into the same dystopia at once

[eyeball]

16 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

People are NOT equal. We must attract the best into Canada similar to many companies when hiring they interview and hire the best.

What you're talking about is more akin to companies raiding or headhunting one another.

When we high-grade immigrants for skills that Canada needs we also rob their home countries of the skilled people they need for developing their economies.  Without these things get worse which only drives more immigration.

What you're saying we must do is a zero-sum dead-end tactic that only barely provides a short-term solution.

We need to invest in developing our own skilled workforce not take someone else's. It's unethical to say the least.

 

[Dougie93]

16 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

  14th amendment makes it clear that these people should be protected citizens. 

the 14th Amendment allows persons to be stripped of their liberty ; by the due process of law

if the law determines that you are residing in America unlawfully, the 14th Amendment does not protect you

[CdnFox]

35 minutes ago, herbie said:

He is again demonstrating how big of a m0ron he is as they are citizens and can't be 'deported'. 

The children are citizens but the parents are not. He can definitely make the children go with the parents.

You woke us scream murder if they try to separate families, now you're screaming murder because he's trying to keep them together. Why, it's almost as if you don't actually care about the issues, you just want him to be wrong no matter what

[I am Groot]

On 12/12/2024 at 5:00 PM, herbie said:

Reveal your true self to the world why don't you?

Yes, imagine wanting quality!

[CITIZEN_2015]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

What you're talking about is more akin to companies raiding or headhunting one another.

When we high-grade immigrants for skills that Canada needs we also rob their home countries of the skilled people they need for developing their economies.  Without these things get worse which only drives more immigration.

What you're saying we must do is a zero-sum dead-end tactic that only barely provides a short-term solution.

We need to invest in developing our own skilled workforce not take someone else's. It's unethical to say the least.

 

First off we don't take all skilled workers. A high percentage of new comers don't end up in skilled workforce. Second those skilled workers we take they CHOOSE to come here because there are no opportunities at their own homeland otherwise why they would leave their homeland, family and friends to come here to start from scratch?

We are developing our own and in my view if it wasn't for a negative growth in population and the risk to future pensions and economic stability, I would have said stop immigration altogether not to risk cultural clashes and overcrowded health and education in future.

[I am Groot]

19 hours ago, Aristides said:

You can't deport someone who entered legally unless they overstay or violate their visa or commit a crime. Not even Trump is advocating deporting people who are in the US legally.

You should be able to deport anyone who isn't a citizen for any damned reason you want to.

And if the citizen was born elsewhere and they are found to be detrimental to this country by virtue of criminality or expressing hatred towards this country that citizenship should be revoked and they should be sent home.

[I am Groot]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

What you're talking about is more akin to companies raiding or headhunting one another.

When we high-grade immigrants for skills that Canada needs we also rob their home countries of the skilled people they need for developing their economies.  Without these things get worse which only drives more immigration.

Who says they all have to come from the third world? Doctors, nurses, and other healthcare workers in the UK get paid a lot less than ours. Let's raid there. Of course, first you need to set up some kind of national licensing system administered by the feds. Because the provincial professional licensing groups have zero interest in letting new doctors or nurses in and have and will continue to throw up every possible roadblock to keep them from working here.

I've read stories about the plight of female doctors in India. They're in danger even in their own hospitals, and treated badly by their own colleagues and staff, not to mention by patients. I bet a lot of them would like to work over here in a much safer and more respectful atmosphere. And I read another story about the plight of women in South Korea. It's an extremely sexist society. Maybe we could attract some highly skilled South Korean women, including doctors and nurses here with the promise of an open, tolerant society.

Why do we just throw open the doors and take whatever shows up? 

[eyeball]

20 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Why do we just throw open the doors and take whatever shows up? 

Hey I was sold on fewer people due to environmental concerns decades ago myself. I hear what you're saying though and it's why I'm more accepting of refugees than immigrants.

I bet there's just as many refugees who are skilled in many of the things we need. I also think refugees will have more appropriate values with regards to freedom from oppression as opposed to an immigrant who's only in it for the money.

[Army Guy]

On 12/12/2024 at 6:00 PM, herbie said:

Reveal your true self to the world why don't you?

Please explain what your trying to say here....Are you saying that Canada immigration process work, that we should allow in anyone that comes knocking....or should we be looking at people who fit in with our culture and would make a good fit to our nation...