ironstone Posted December 2, 2024 Report Posted December 2, 2024 3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: There have been several comments here of late saying that leftism, wokism needs to be stomped out. This forum wouldn't be that interesting if you guys on the left always agreed with the other side. I'm all for free speech even if I don't agree with a particular opinion. And for the most part, the one's trying to silence dissenting opinions are almost always on the left. 1 Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
robosmith Posted December 2, 2024 Report Posted December 2, 2024 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: Would you look at that. Stupid little Beavey just wrote a thread title that was 100% a lie, to complain about an inaccuracy in 2000 Mules. Not only was the thread title a lie, little liar Beavey goes on to lie about the movie some more in the body of his opening post: D'Souza never said that every single thing in the movie was wrong, just some info he got that was in the film not every single aspect of Dem election cheating was debunked, there were several It's still an absolute certainty that the FBI cheated for the Dems by labelling the Hunter laptop as "Russian disinformation" when they knew that it was actually 100% legitimate, because they had it in their possession for 11 months at that point YOU'RE LYING. NO ONE KNOWS "it was actually 100% legitimate." NO ONE can prove that it wasn't tampered with by EXPERTS capable of covering their tracks. The ONLY way that could be proved is IF it was image backed up when first acquired from Hunter; it certainly WAS NOT. Just like the Mitnick laptop which was fiddled with by the FBI without making an IMAGE BACKUP, so it could not be used as evidence against him. I was the one who informed the FBI they had screwed up and destroyed evidence in 1996. Kevin Mitnick's Laptop Seized by FBI - General Discussion MSFN https://msfn.org › The General Stuff › General Discussion Oct 10, 2002 — This is the Toshiba Satellite T1960CS, 486 laptop computer seized by the FBI on February 15, 1995, in Raleigh, NC, during the arrest of the ... ONCE AGAIN, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. Quote
Legato Posted December 2, 2024 Report Posted December 2, 2024 10 minutes ago, robosmith said: "On ignore" means reducing the post count to which you're exposed. Obviously. Duh Why would I do that, TROLL. You're not making any sense, as trollusual. Well, I can understand your unwillingness to expose yourself to other posters. Are you shy? Quote
robosmith Posted December 2, 2024 Report Posted December 2, 2024 4 minutes ago, Legato said: Well, I can understand your unwillingness to expose yourself to other posters. Are you shy? I am unwilling to waste my time with EMPTY RHETORIC and LIES. Quote
BeaverFever Posted December 3, 2024 Author Report Posted December 3, 2024 3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: They did know that 2000 phones visited the drop boxes at least 10 times That has been debunked 2 MILLION times. Cellphone geolocation data is not that accurate and a ping is split second signal so their so-called data (if they even ever had any) wouldn’t be able to differentiate between a phone that is sitting on top of a dropbox, one that was in a building next door to the building with the dropbox, and one that was speeding past a dropbox at 200mph in a car 500 feet away. Given that drop boxes are placed in high traffic areas like malls and libraries and public buildings where people work and pass through of course it would pick up the same signals repeatedly (again if they have any data at all - they refused to share their raw data or methodology) 3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: One video even had a woman drop off a bunch of votes, then walk back to her car and come back with more. 1) It didn’t show her put in “a bunch of ballots”. There is no way of telling whether she is putting in more than one in at a time. It shows her go to the box, put what is probably ONE ballot in, then go back to the car and put what is probably one more in. In other words it could just be the ballots for her and her husband and she realized she left one in the car. This is a lie that 2,000 Fools makes often: footage of someone depositing a white rectangle that looks no different than one envelope while the narrator claims without basis it’s a stack of “3 or 4” envelopes, when there’s no way anyone could tell from distant security cam footage 2) no footage of anyone making repeated trips to the Dropbox, or visiting multiple dropboxes, which is 2000 Fools’ central claim The woman mentioned above didn’t drive away then come back with another load to make multiple drops on multiple days Remember a central claim is that EACH of the 2000 “mules” visited an average of 10 drop boxes so at least 20,000 “mule drops” and the only footage you could come up with is “one lady walked back to her car”. Remember 2 years ago D’Souza said he had more footage he would release soon. But he released nothing because as he admits now it was all a lie 3) no evidence of the supposed “democrat stash houses” where the supposed fake ballots were produced and distributed to the supposed mules Remember 2 years ago D’Souza said he had more footage he would release soon. But he released nothing because as he admits now it was all a lie 4) no evidence of any actual fake or fraudulent ballots being found n any of the failed witch-hunt audits the MAGAtards launched after the election. If ballot boxes were stuffed with fake ballots then where are they? The republican lies made the 2020 election the most audited election in history and all it proved was the Biden won fair and square. 1 2 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted December 3, 2024 Report Posted December 3, 2024 1 minute ago, BeaverFever said: That has been debunked 2 MILLION times. Cellphone geolocation data is not that accurate and a ping is split second signal so their so-called data (if they even ever had any) wouldn’t be able to differentiate between a phone that is sitting on top of a dropbox, one that was in a building next door to the building with the dropbox, and one that was speeding past a dropbox at 200mph in a car 500 feet away. Given that drop boxes are placed in high traffic areas like malls and libraries and public buildings where people work and pass through of course it would pick up the same signals repeatedly (again if they have any data at all - they refused to share their raw data or methodology) 1) It didn’t show her put in “a bunch of ballots”. There is no way of telling whether she is putting in more than one in at a time. It shows her go to the box, put what is probably ONE ballot in, then go back to the car and put what is probably one more in. In other words it could just be the ballots for her and her husband and she realized she left one in the car. This is a lie that 2,000 Fools makes often: footage of someone depositing a white rectangle that looks no different than one envelope while the narrator claims without basis it’s a stack of “3 or 4” envelopes, when there’s no way anyone could tell from distant security cam footage 2) no footage of anyone making repeated trips to the Dropbox, or visiting multiple dropboxes, which is 2000 Fools’ central claim The woman mentioned above didn’t drive away then come back with another load to make multiple drops on multiple days Remember a central claim is that EACH of the 2000 “mules” visited an average of 10 drop boxes so at least 20,000 “mule drops” and the only footage you could come up with is “one lady walked back to her car”. Remember 2 years ago D’Souza said he had more footage he would release soon. But he released nothing because as he admits now it was all a lie 3) no evidence of the supposed “democrat stash houses” where the supposed fake ballots were produced and distributed to the supposed mules Remember 2 years ago D’Souza said he had more footage he would release soon. But he released nothing because as he admits now it was all a lie 4) no evidence of any actual fake or fraudulent ballots being found n any of the failed witch-hunt audits the MAGAtards launched after the election. If ballot boxes were stuffed with fake ballots then where are they? The republican lies made the 2020 election the most audited election in history and all it proved was the Biden won fair and square. But it was good enough to convict people at the J6 protest? Come on man. Either it is good data or it isn't. 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
BeaverFever Posted December 3, 2024 Author Report Posted December 3, 2024 6 hours ago, West said: Correction: D'Souza made a small correction, still maintains the bottom line conclusion of the movie is sound lefties lie again Typical Republican scumbag, “the data was wrong but the conclusion that was entirely based on the data was right” Zero evidence for his widely debunked bullshit. It’s not only based on bad data but completely illogical and implausible. 1 1 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted December 3, 2024 Author Report Posted December 3, 2024 7 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: But it was good enough to convict people at the J6 protest? Come on man. Either it is good data or it isn't. Don’t just take my word for it, here’s what ChatGPT says: Some January 6 protestors were arrested in part based on cellphone geolocation data, but this was typically combined with other evidence, such as video footage, social media posts, and witness statements. Key Differences Between J6 Investigations and Claims in 2000 Mules 1. Precision of Geolocation Data: • For J6 cases, authorities used carrier-grade data obtained via subpoenas, which is typically more accurate (down to a few meters) than commercially available geolocation data used in 2000 Mules. • This data was often corroborated with video footage, unlike the claims in 2000 Mules. 2. Legal Process and Context: • Geolocation data in J6 cases was obtained under strict legal standards, such as court-approved subpoenas or warrants, ensuring its reliability. • The analysis was targeted to specific individuals based on evidence of their involvement. 3. Corroboration: • J6 investigations did not rely solely on geolocation data but used it as one piece of a larger puzzle. In contrast, 2000 Mules heavily leaned on geolocation data without sufficient corroborating evidence. Conclusion Yes, cellphone geolocation data was used in the arrest and prosecution of January 6 protestors, but it was part of a broader investigative strategy that included other forms of evidence. The reliability and accuracy of this data in the J6 cases were higher due to its source (carrier-grade data) and corroboration with other evidence, unlike the claims made in 2000 Mules. 1 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted December 3, 2024 Report Posted December 3, 2024 22 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Don’t just take my word for it, here’s what ChatGPT says: Some January 6 protestors were arrested in part based on cellphone geolocation data, but this was typically combined with other evidence, such as video footage, social media posts, and witness statements. Key Differences Between J6 Investigations and Claims in 2000 Mules 1. Precision of Geolocation Data: • For J6 cases, authorities used carrier-grade data obtained via subpoenas, which is typically more accurate (down to a few meters) than commercially available geolocation data used in 2000 Mules. • This data was often corroborated with video footage, unlike the claims in 2000 Mules. 2. Legal Process and Context: • Geolocation data in J6 cases was obtained under strict legal standards, such as court-approved subpoenas or warrants, ensuring its reliability. • The analysis was targeted to specific individuals based on evidence of their involvement. 3. Corroboration: • J6 investigations did not rely solely on geolocation data but used it as one piece of a larger puzzle. In contrast, 2000 Mules heavily leaned on geolocation data without sufficient corroborating evidence. Conclusion Yes, cellphone geolocation data was used in the arrest and prosecution of January 6 protestors, but it was part of a broader investigative strategy that included other forms of evidence. The reliability and accuracy of this data in the J6 cases were higher due to its source (carrier-grade data) and corroboration with other evidence, unlike the claims made in 2000 Mules. Lmao...chat gpt? You understand that it is just a set of programmed responses introduced through internet searches. It isn't AI. It's just a complicated set of preprogrammed responses. Quote Cellphone dragnet used to find bank robbery suspect was unconstitutional, judge says A federal judge's ruling that geofence warrants violate the Fourth Amendment could slow the use of surveillance tools based on Google location data. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/geofence-warrants-help-police-find-suspects-using-google-ruling-could-n1291098 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
BeaverFever Posted December 3, 2024 Author Report Posted December 3, 2024 6 hours ago, Nationalist said: Ah yes. Of course. Hey @BeaverFever. Don't you ever get tired of being made to look like a complete fool? LMAO you’re the dumbass that keeps falling for fake news whether from Convicted election fraudsters like D’Souza or bloodthirsty dictators like Putin. And you still falling for this crap that been debunked countless times over the years. And you’re too stupid to realize he stands by the conclusions even though he admits that the supposed evidence the conclusions were based on is bogus 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted December 3, 2024 Author Report Posted December 3, 2024 10 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Lmao...chat gpt? You understand that it is just a set of programmed responses introduced through internet searches. It isn't AI. It's just a complicated set of preprogrammed responses. And yet it provided a factual and accurate answer 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted December 3, 2024 Report Posted December 3, 2024 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: And yet it provided a factual and accurate answer No it didn't. The accuracy of geofencing is so high that they can literally arrest someone for robbing a bank based on it. Edited December 3, 2024 by gatomontes99 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
BeaverFever Posted December 3, 2024 Author Report Posted December 3, 2024 12 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Cellphone dragnet used to find bank robbery suspect was unconstitutional, judge says A federal judge's ruling that geofence warrants violate the Fourth Amendment could slow the use of surveillance tools based on Google location data. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/geofence-warrants-help-police-find-suspects-using-google-ruling-could-n1291098 And yet if you’re a dumbass MAGA J6er who live tweets that you are storming the Capitol and your dumbass MAGA buddies have ratted you out for being there, but then you try to deny it when the authorities come, the cell data is legit evidence. And that pretty much fits the profile for hundreds of J6ers taking selfies inside the Capitol like complete mor0ns Quote
BeaverFever Posted December 3, 2024 Author Report Posted December 3, 2024 1 minute ago, gatomontes99 said: No it didn't. The a curacy of geofencing is so high that they can literally arrest someone for robbing a bank based on it. 1) as has already been pointed out the commercially available cell data that Dsouza and his con artists an obtain through legal data brokers is not that accurate for security reasons and it can be off by as much as 1000 meters This is different from what law enforcement has available 2) as was already mentioned law enforcement uses it in conjunction with other evidence not by itself. 2000 Fools is based on nothing but massively inaccurate phone data, which he now admits is not linked to the camera footage, and the rest is completely fabricated claims Quote
gatomontes99 Posted December 3, 2024 Report Posted December 3, 2024 4 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: And yet if you’re a dumbass MAGA J6er who live tweets that you are storming the Capitol and your dumbass MAGA buddies have ratted you out for being there, but then you try to deny it when the authorities come, the cell data is legit evidence. And that pretty much fits the profile for hundreds of J6ers taking selfies inside the Capitol like complete mor0ns Tha know you for conceding my point. That was big of you. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
BeaverFever Posted December 3, 2024 Author Report Posted December 3, 2024 7 hours ago, Deluge said: We know the f*ckers cheated just like we knew OJ murdered Nicole. You stole that OJ line from me. As Ive said many times about Trump’s collusion Quote
impartialobserver Posted December 3, 2024 Report Posted December 3, 2024 As someone who is paid to investigate someone down to the most minute detail... this documentary does not even come close to meeting that threshold. 2 Quote
Nationalist Posted December 3, 2024 Report Posted December 3, 2024 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: LMAO you’re the dumbass that keeps falling for fake news whether from Convicted election fraudsters like D’Souza or bloodthirsty dictators like Putin. And you still falling for this crap that been debunked countless times over the years. And you’re too stupid to realize he stands by the conclusions even though he admits that the supposed evidence the conclusions were based on is bogus Yet time after time...it turns out I'm correct and you...get the butt end of the stick. It is what it is... 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted December 3, 2024 Report Posted December 3, 2024 12 hours ago, Nationalist said: Ah yes. Of course. Hey @BeaverFever. Don't you ever get tired of being made to look like a complete fool? Don't you ever get tired of being totally ignorant about technological evidence? Do you even know what the accuracy of cell tower ping data is for location? LMAO Quote
Nationalist Posted December 3, 2024 Report Posted December 3, 2024 5 hours ago, robosmith said: Don't you ever get tired of being totally ignorant about technological evidence? Do you even know what the accuracy of cell tower ping data is for location? LMAO Save your sad excuses. History will record the 2020 election as having been stolen under the cover of a man-made respiratory disease, paid for by the American tax payer without their knowledge or consent, in order to place a puppet in the Whitehouse. 1 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted December 3, 2024 Report Posted December 3, 2024 This was the final straw for me with even giving him the time of day, when he refused to release any of the raw data or source methodology for independent scrutiny back when this first came out. I knew then he was pushing bogus garbage, beyond the fact that it was outlandishly absurd on its face. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Deluge Posted December 3, 2024 Report Posted December 3, 2024 14 hours ago, BeaverFever said: You stole that OJ line from me. As Ive said many times about Trump’s collusion Nobody steals anything from you, dumbass. Go take your puberty blockers. Quote
robosmith Posted December 3, 2024 Report Posted December 3, 2024 6 hours ago, Nationalist said: Save your sad excuses. History will record the 2020 election as having been stolen under the cover of a man-made respiratory disease, paid for by the American tax payer without their knowledge or consent, in order to place a puppet in the Whitehouse. Only IF you or your fellow MAGA CULT write that book. LMAO You are a really funny DUPE. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted December 3, 2024 Report Posted December 3, 2024 21 hours ago, BeaverFever said: That has been debunked 2 MILLION times. Cellphone geolocation data is not that accurate and a ping is split second signal so their so-called data (if they even ever had any) wouldn’t be able to differentiate between a phone that is sitting on top of a dropbox, one that was in a building next door to the building with the dropbox, and one that was speeding past a dropbox at 200mph in a car 500 feet away. I don't read your posts for the same reason that I don't drink from the toilet, but that's so stupid that even myata will admit it. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted December 3, 2024 Report Posted December 3, 2024 20 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Don’t just take my word for it, here’s what ChatGPT says: Some January 6 protestors were arrested in part based on cellphone geolocation data, but this was typically combined with other evidence, such as video footage, social media posts, and witness statements. But then the cellphone data from that area was "corrupted", according to the FBI, so they were unable to get any data on the guy who planted the bombs by the DNC. The FBI are always so unlucky when it comes to gathering, keeping, losing, leaking, presenting, and accidentally destroying evidence. They're like the Keystone cops, and somehow their misfeasance always helps the Demonrats. Oh, and ChatGPT could never lie, right? Just like Alexa... "Hey Alexa, why should I vote for Trump?" Answer: "I cannot comment on politics, tell lies, or chop down cherry trees." "Hey Alexa, why should I vote for Kamala?" Answer: "Kamala is a highly educated, well-respected politician with extensive experience and a long history of successes....." 🤮 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
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