Trump picks Elon and Vivek to run new government efficiency dept.

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

The point is to gut the federal civil service, destroying entire departments and replacing thousands of civil service workers with ideologically motivated political hacks loyal to Trump.

You say that because that's what you would do if you had a chance. Democrats are all about replacing competent people with some servant lackeys.

But this isn't about replacing anybody. This is about eliminating waste and removing departments that are not providing any value for their money or could be incorporated into another department less expensively.

I get as a socialist you kind of don't like that whole idea. You'd rather the government employed everybody. But this is actually healthy for the country.

[Hodad]

In just two years Musk has made Twitter so "efficient" that it's lost 80% of its value. 

Who wouldn't want to bring that kind of success to the government!

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Wait and see what happens. More efficiency is not always a bad thing.

Who hasn't heard stories about civil service/public servants with ...not that much of a workload? Not to mention pay and benefits that are generally a fair bit higher than their private sector counterparts.

Even if they do have a workload it may not be a work that they should be doing.

If you ever get a chance watch an old British TV show called yes minister, and it's sequel Yes Prime Minister. There's not a lot of episodes because it's British but it is an amazing hilarious look at how government and civil service work and interact together and was almost banned because it was seen as being accurate enough to be mocking the government which isn't really allowed in England

In one episode a new hospital has been built and they have hired on all the typists, purchasing agents for the equipment, least all the gear, hired janitors and everybody, but they didn't have enough money in the budget to hire any doctors or nurses so they had no patients.  The minister wants to shut the hospital down until they can afford to have patients and the union rep insists the workers are all horribly busy and in fact they're over worked and understaffed because there's so much involved with running a hospital whether the patents are there or not!   

That's often how gov't is. The actual workers are actually doing actual work, so as far as they're concerned they're working their butts off and people should appreciate it. But oftentimes they are duplicating work. Doing work that is also being done somewhere else and the efforts could be merged. Or they're doing legacy type work that could easily be done or managed another way that would require far less manpower. They may be using legacy systems that are labor intensive I could be updated or replaced with modern technology to vastly improve or speed the process

 

Okay occasionally these kind of reviews have to happen. They really help eliminate waste, improve the efficiency of systems, and they keep the Departments thinking in the back of their mind that they probably don't want to be overly bloated by the time the next one happens

 

[Black Dog]

5 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Wait and see what happens. More efficiency is not always a bad thing.

Who hasn't heard stories about civil service/public servants with ...not that much of a workload? Not to mention pay and benefits that are generally a fair bit higher than their private sector counterparts.

Yeah Elon took the same approach with Twitter and now its revenue is in the toilet and its userbase is shrinking because he fired all the "useless people" whose job was to make money for the company and actually made the UX decent.

Again, the point isn't efficiency, it's ideology.

 

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Hodad said:

In just two years Musk has made Twitter so "efficient" that it's lost 80% of its value. 

Who wouldn't want to bring that kind of success to the government!

Pretty normal for a takeover and restructuring. We'll see where they're at in 2 years.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Yeah Elon took the same approach with Twitter and now its revenue is in the toilet and its userbase is shrinking because he fired all the "useless people" whose job was to make money for the company and actually made the UX decent.

Again, the point isn't efficiency, it's ideology.

 

Did you think that the federal government was a profit venture?

And it looks like the user base is beginning to pick up. Whatever you make a radical change in a business model you're going to have a. Of adjustment.

And everybody agrees that X is profitability is considerably higher. They will need far less revenue to be able to make profit. So as they do return to their former  glory They will make vastly more money

But this isn't a radical change For the government. They're still talking about the government doing with the government's already doing, just doing it for less money.

Everybody agrees that ex is vastly more efficient and profitable per dollar then it used to be. That's a complete success. Because of the woke losing their teeny tiny little brains at the idea of free speech users fell a little bit, but even that's beginning to pack pick back up and at the end of the day advertisers will always show up where people are.

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Black Dog said:

Elon's gonna do for government what he did for Twitter: tank its revenue, destroy its reputation and fill it with Nazis.

Fortunately I think Trump gets sick of his bullshit sooner than later and sends him packing because Donald is a mess b!tch who loves drama.

Musk got rid of fake "like" bots and shadow-bans - that Twitter used to make leftard platitudes seem popular while simultaneously downplaying conservative counterpoints - and pulled Twitter out of TNI, which ended the left's monopoly on social media.

Leftist leaders are still furious about it. Their cultists were all supposed to abandon Twitter immediately, but they don't all understand what's up. 

Re: bots and shadow-bans... When a dolt like AOC went on Twitter to say "Trump iz poopy" it would quickly start to compile fake likes from Twitter bots, and it would get a high priority in everyone's Twitter feed. By contrast, an intelligent and factual Tweet from a conservative would be shadow-banned, so that very few people would see it. 

Musk is a hero of free speech and an enemy of the left's unholy control over social media, which equated to a modern day book-burning campaign. You are required to deny all that as a condition of retaining your cult status, dog.

Edited November 13, 2024 by WestCanMan

[Black Dog]

5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Musk got rid of fake "like" bots and shadow-bans - that Twitter used to make leftard platitudes seem popular while simultaneously downplaying conservative counterpoints - and pulled Twitter out of TNI, which ended the left's monopoly on social media.

Leftist leaders are still furious about it. Their cultists were all supposed to abandon Twitter immediately, but they don't all understand what's up. 

Re: bots and shadow-bans... When a dolt like AOC went on Twitter to say "Trump iz poopy" it would quickly start to compile fake likes from Twitter bots, and it would get a high priority in everyone's Twitter feed. By contrast, an intelligent and factual Tweet from a conservative would be shadow-banned, so that very few people would see it. 

lol, Twitter is now completely unusable in large part because of the spambots.

As for fake engagement, now any dolt can send Elon $8 to get their garbage boosted to the top of everyone's feed.

The shadowban thing is absolutely fake, conservatives simply can't handle the idea that their posts suck shit so they think there's some conspiracy against them.

Finally, Twitter's shift to being an explicitly right wing platform is killing its user base. They lost something like 3 million users in the UK and we're seeing a similar exodus in North American users.

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Musk is a hero of free speech and an enemy of the left's unholy control over social media, which equated to a modern day book-burning campaign. You are required to deny all that as a condition of retaining your cult status, dog.

 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

Please, enlighten us.

Trump is swapping out an imaginary Deepstate for an actual one that's more to his and presumably your liking.

Careful what you wish for.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

I'm certain that any time a new president gets elected, he wants to appoint people that will be loyal and not work to undermine him.

This used to be called a spoils government and was typical of America in the 1800’s.

The term was used particularly in politics of the United States, where the federal government operated on a spoils system until the Pendleton Act was passed in 1883 due to a civil service reform movement. Thereafter the spoils system was largely replaced by nonpartisan merit at the federal level of the United States.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoils_system

Republicans want more than just loyalty to Trump they want a right wing civil service that will be loyal to the Republican Party and conservative values for years to come beyond Trump.

Edited November 13, 2024 by eyeball

[WestCanMan]

14 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

lol, Twitter is now completely unusable in large part because of the spambots.

2021 just called to say "Thanks for noticing, but you're 3 years late."

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As for fake engagement, now any dolt can send Elon $8 to get their garbage boosted to the top of everyone's feed.

Boosting posts isn't unique to Twitter, dummy, but I think you're talking about a 1-time fee.

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The shadowban thing is absolutely fake,

That has long been disproven. Shadow-bans were 100% real. 

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conservatives simply can't handle the idea that their posts suck shit so they think there's some conspiracy against them.

So sayeth Black Dummy, the guy who just learned about shadow bans 1 paragraph ago.

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Finally, Twitter's shift to being an explicitly right wing platform is killing its user base.

Leftist cult leaders have been trying to get their sheep off Twitter ever since Musk bought it. 

IE, Musk didn't shift it to the right unilaterally, he got rid of leftist-cult-amplification algorithms/conservation-rejection filters and the DNC pulled their cultists off themselves. 

Sorry you missed it all while your head was up your ass. 

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This is going to be like a 2025 version of the comedy "Dumb and Dumber,^ with two professional grifters in a powerful position of the US Government. The American people will surely suffer under the banana republic Trump is creating.  

 

[robosmith]

15 hours ago, CouchPotato said:

Trump says Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy will head a new ‘Department of Government Efficiency’

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/trump-says-elon-musk-will-lead-department-government-efficiency-vivek-rcna179899

 

I made it a point not to post an article from NY Post or FOS Lies or any other disseminator of right-wing disinformation out of sensitivity to Robosmith.

Not a real job. At most an ADVISORY role which will end in July 2025. 

RamySwamy will do everything he can to push Musk out so he can be the top dog.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Trump is swapping out an imaginary Deepstate for an actual one that's more to his and presumably your liking.

Careful what you wish for.

Maybe if they had body cameras it would be different 🙄🙄

You really have to admire the left's ability to move from one delusional conspiracy theory to the next without skipping a beat

[Michael Hardner]

9 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

 The American people will surely suffer under the banana republic Trump is creating.  

After all, you do have the gift of insight to some level.  Try to use it objectively.  Trump's button mashing produced at least one world-changing set of policies with respect to China.  This time will be different, but it should produce something important.  Let's watch for it.

[Black Dog]

5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

2021 just called to say "Thanks for noticing, but you're 3 years late."

2024 called to say "nudes in bio"

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Boosting posts isn't unique to Twitter, dummy, but I think you're talking about a 1-time fee.

No I'm talking about Elon's bogus "verified" system which is used ot boost fake accounts.

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That has long been disproven. Shadow-bans were 100% real. 

 

 

LOL your evidence is a screenshot of a headline? goddamn that's lazy.

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So sayeth Black Dummy, the guy who just learned about shadow bans 1 paragraph ago.

Leftist cult leaders have been trying to get their sheep off Twitter ever since Musk bought it. 

IE, Musk didn't shift it to the right unilaterally, he got rid of leftist-cult-amplification algorithms/conservation-rejection filters and the DNC pulled their cultists off themselves. 

Sorry you missed it all while your head was up your ass. 

 

Sure he did, but you're correct that a lot of non-insane people and advertisers pulled up stakes because they got tired of all the Nazis and right wing slop.

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2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

 

Musk is a hero of free speech and an enemy of the left's unholy control over social media, which equated to a modern day book-burning campaign. You are required to deny all that as a condition of retaining your cult status, dog.

Musk is a "hero to free speech" the same way Adolf Hitler was a champion of civil liberties.

[Nationalist]

Matt Gaetz appointed Attorney General!

Hard line city!

Gee...I wonder how Wray, Garland, Smith, James, Willis, Merchand,  et al...

Feel right about now?

Giggle.

Swamp-a-drainin'.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

Matt Gaetz appointed Attorney General!

Hard line city!

Gee...I wonder how Wray, Garland, Smith, James, Willis, Merchand,  et al...

Feel right about now?

Giggle.

Swamp-a-drainin'.

None of the appointees are fond of Trudeau or Canada I'm afraid. I don't know if we're going to get an easy time of it until the government changes. Not much you can do, that's the price of electing Trudeau

[Nationalist]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

None of the appointees are fond of Trudeau or Canada I'm afraid. I don't know if we're going to get an easy time of it until the government changes. Not much you can do, that's the price of electing Trudeau

Agreed to a degree. American corporations will soon begin spending again and that will drag our employment numbers up.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

Agreed to a degree. American corporations will soon begin spending again and that will drag our employment numbers up.

Quite possibly. It's hard to say, trump is going to lower business taxes and such again and unless Trudeau does the same it may be very unattractive for investment or business to remain in Canada. And I have a funny feeling that some of our trade deals are going to be up for some rather aggressive negotiation. But it is quite possible that increased activity in the states benefits us, especially with our dollar taking a bit of a hit

[Nationalist]

7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Quite possibly. It's hard to say, trump is going to lower business taxes and such again and unless Trudeau does the same it may be very unattractive for investment or business to remain in Canada. And I have a funny feeling that some of our trade deals are going to be up for some rather aggressive negotiation. But it is quite possible that increased activity in the states benefits us, especially with our dollar taking a bit of a hit

Also...how many lives do you think Pixie-Dust has, now that Orangemanbad and his cabinet begin shmoozing with our politicians?

[Black Dog]

46 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Matt Gaetz appointed Attorney General!

Hard line city!

Gee...I wonder how Wray, Garland, Smith, James, Willis, Merchand,  et al...

Feel right about now?

Giggle.

Swamp-a-drainin'.

First on the chopping block: age of consent laws.

Also lol at draining the swamp by filling it with a bunch of insane swamp creatures.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Matt Gaetz appointed Attorney General!

Hard line city!

Gee...I wonder how Wray, Garland, Smith, James, Willis, Merchand,  et al...

Feel right about now?

Giggle.

Swamp-a-drainin'.

Look at you celebrating another incompetent Trump appointee. 🤮

Gaetz gone full Trump puppet. Not that wasn't before, he's just a total unqualified STOOGE now.

Trump probably has video of him with the the 17 yo.

Edited November 13, 2024 by robosmith

[CdnFox]

54 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Also...how many lives do you think Pixie-Dust has, now that Orangemanbad and his cabinet begin shmoozing with our politicians?

Frankly I think that Trudeau is going to face pressure on a lot of fronts from trump including for things like military spending. He won't be able to respond and he'll look completely stupid.

Which leads me to wonder whether or not there will be a spring election, before trump gets a chance to really sink his teeth into trudeau. If it were in April election for example trudeau could still somehow argue that he's the best one to face trump because it wouldn't have been proven to be absolute bullshit at that point whereas if he waits till the fall it will be quite obvious that he's not.