PA Voter Fraud Today 25/10/2024

[gatomontes99]

Pennsylvania county halts hundreds of potentially fraudulent voter registration forms

Aka 2,500 fraudulent registrations

We called it. We said it was happening. We said we needed IDs. We said we needed better security. Here is undeniable PROOF that it is happening.

EVERY VOTER ROLL SHOULD BE PURGED OF WVERY FRAUDULENT VOTER!

Let's fix this.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, gatomontes99 said:

Pennsylvania county halts hundreds of potentially fraudulent voter registration forms

Aka 2,500 fraudulent registrations

We called it. We said it was happening. We said we needed IDs. We said we needed better security. Here is undeniable PROOF that it is happening.

EVERY VOTER ROLL SHOULD BE PURGED OF WVERY FRAUDULENT VOTER!

Let's fix this.

As long as this kind of nonsense is able to happen and likely to go undetected no American is going to have faith in the results of an election. And that is very very bad

[gatomontes99]

PA is the lynch pin this year. Is it any wonder there are thousands of fraudulent ballots in PA? ACORN is alive and well and they are in PA.

[Moonlight Graham]

5 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

PA is the lynch pin this year. Is it any wonder there are thousands of fraudulent ballots in PA? ACORN is alive and well and they are in PA.

They caught them.  So there's no actual voter fraud happening there if it was caught.

I agree they should have photo ID to vote, but only the condition that a photo ID card be made available for free for all voters in any state this is applied in.  Drivers license or passport isn't enough since those can be revoked for various reasons and typically cost money.  Give every American a citizenship card or something.

[robosmith]

20 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Pennsylvania county halts hundreds of potentially fraudulent voter registration forms

Aka 2,500 fraudulent registrations

We called it. We said it was happening. We said we needed IDs. We said we needed better security. Here is undeniable PROOF that it is happening.

EVERY VOTER ROLL SHOULD BE PURGED OF WVERY FRAUDULENT VOTER!

Let's fix this.

It's really funny that you don't know the difference between ID for registration and ID for voting.

ID for registration HAS ALWAYS BEEN REQUIRED. Duh

 

 

 

 

 

[gatomontes99]

4 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

They caught them.  So there's no actual voter fraud happening there if it was caught.

Yeah, because they caught them all and you know that for a fact? Could you say any thing more d u m b dum?

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I agree they should have photo ID to vote, but only the condition that a photo ID card be made available for free for all voters in any state this is applied in.  Drivers license or passport isn't enough since those can be revoked for various reasons and typically cost money.  Give every American a citizenship card or something.

They do. Every voter ID law has provisions for a free state issued ID. Maybe 0.1% need it to be free because the rest already have it.

Just now, robosmith said:

It's really funny that you don't know the difference between ID for registration and ID for voting.

ID for registration HAS ALWAYS BEEN REQUIRED. Duh

 

 

 

 

 

Read the story and watch the press conference before you make a fool of yourself next time.

[robosmith]

6 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

They caught them.  So there's no actual voter fraud happening there if it was caught.

ID has always been required for registration.

6 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

I agree they should have photo ID to vote, but only the condition that a photo ID card be made available for free for all voters in any state this is applied in.  Drivers license or passport isn't enough since those can be revoked for various reasons and typically cost money.  Give every American a citizenship card or something.

There are plenty of checks for voting that don't require ID. Signature match with the registration, just like for writing a check is one of the major ones.

2 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Read the story and watch the press conference before you make a fool of yourself next time.

I read your post where you referenced voter ID and registration, FOOL.

[gatomontes99]

8 minutes ago, robosmith said:

ID has always been required for registration.

There are plenty of checks for voting that don't require ID. Signature match with the registration, just like for writing a check is one of the major ones.

I read your post where you referenced voter ID and registration, FOOL.

Why do you lie when it is so easy....I mean ridiculously easy...to prove you wrong.

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https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/register-to-vote-basic-requirements/

2. ID Number

All states require a driver's license or non-driver ID number on the voter registration form. If you have neither, you can use the last four digits of your social security number instead. However, in Hawaii, Kentucky, New Mexico, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Virginia, you will need to provide your full social security number.

If you don't have any of the information mentioned above, don't worry — in most states, you can still register as long as you indicate on the registration form that you don't have ID and were never issued a social security number. You may be asked to submit an affidavit or other documentation.

Gawd damn that was easy.

[CdnFox]

33 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

They caught them.  So there's no actual voter fraud happening there if it was caught.

I agree they should have photo ID to vote, but only the condition that a photo ID card be made available for free for all voters in any state this is applied in.  Drivers license or passport isn't enough since those can be revoked for various reasons and typically cost money.  Give every American a citizenship card or something.

would you prefer the term attempted voter fraud?

In Canada we have provincial IDs. They're basically driver's license without the driver's license part. They're for people that don't have driver's licenses but need government issue photo ID.  They cost about the same as a DL, they're cheap.  I'm surprised the states don't have something like that. 

[Fluffypants]

9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

would you prefer the term attempted voter fraud?

In Canada we have provincial IDs. They're basically driver's license without the driver's license part. They're for people that don't have driver's licenses but need government issue photo ID.  They cost about the same as a DL, they're cheap.  I'm surprised the states don't have something like that. 

States have them they are called state IDs

[CdnFox]

23 minutes ago, Fluffypants said:

States have them they are called state IDs

sooooooo....... what's wrong with using those tho if you don't have a dl?

[West]

How sad. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said:

They caught them.  So there's no actual voter fraud happening there if it was caught.

1) There was voter fraud by definition, because they caught people committing voter fraud.

2) What percent of crimes go unsolved? What percent of fraudulent votes go undetected? Just because they caught 2,500 people doesn't mean they caught them all. Maybe there were 250,000. You don't know. 

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I agree they should have photo ID to vote, but only the condition that a photo ID card be made available for free for all voters in any state this is applied in.

If the dems took the money that they spent on ads about allowing people to vote without ID, and used it to get people ID instead, everyone would have ID.

The dems are working voter fraud into the system on the flimsiest of reasons.

[Black Dog]

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"District Attorney Heather Adams revealed that the applications came from canvassers who were paid to obtain voter registrations, adding that "The majority of the applications were from residents in the city of Lancaster... The canvases themselves took place at various shopping centers, parking lots of grocery stores and businesses, sidewalks and parks."

This was 100% the Elon GOTV operation that did this.

[robosmith]

57 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

1) There was voter fraud by definition, because they caught people committing voter fraud.

It's registration fraud, which is SUPPOSED to be caught by the government because private collectors have no way to determine the validity of the IDs.

57 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

2) What percent of crimes go unsolved? What percent of fraudulent votes go undetected? Just because they caught 2,500 people doesn't mean they caught them all. Maybe there were 250,000. You don't know. 

The government screens all new registrations. They have the tools to ensure validity.

57 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

If the dems took the money that they spent on ads about allowing people to vote without ID, and used it to get people ID instead, everyone would have ID.

Registration requires ID and/or verification. Voting can be screened reliably in many ways.

57 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The dems are working voter fraud into the system on the flimsiest of reasons.

You are completely IGNORANT of the voter security methods used.

[gatomontes99]

14 minutes ago, robosmith said:

It's registration fraud, which is SUPPOSED to be caught by the government because private collectors have no way to determine the validity of the IDs.

The government screens all new registrations. They have the tools to ensure validity.

Registration requires ID and/or verification. Voting can be screened reliably in many ways.

You are completely IGNORANT of the voter security methods used.

Don't call other people ignorant when I proved, unequivocally, that your assertion that every state requires an ID to register was a bald face lie.

[Nationalist]

Once again we see that Libbies simply cheat as a matter of course. They are indeed slime.

And they caught these...but where there's smoke...there's fire.

There will be more.

[Moonlight Graham]

6 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

1) There was voter fraud by definition, because they caught people committing voter fraud.

2) What percent of crimes go unsolved? What percent of fraudulent votes go undetected? Just because they caught 2,500 people doesn't mean they caught them all. Maybe there were 250,000. You don't know. 

If Trump had any evidence whatsoever of actual voter fraud he would have presented to the state courts and won a court case about it.  He didn't.  He wanted to delay or overturn the election results by any means necessary and had donor dollars to spend so it didn't cost him anything to do it.  As of now it's a conspiracy theory unless someone shows proof.  They caught the attempted fraud, that's a good thing.

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If the dems took the money that they spent on ads about allowing people to vote without ID, and used it to get people ID instead, everyone would have ID.

The dems are working voter fraud into the system on the flimsiest of reasons.

 

You really think Trump suddenly and magically cares about "election integrity" 😂

The only reason the GOP want photo ID is because the people who don't vote for them have a harder time acquiring it or have it less than the people who do vote for them.  And the only reason the Dems don't want voter ID is for the exact opposite reason.

[WestCanMan]

8 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

If Trump had any evidence whatsoever of actual voter fraud he would have presented to the state courts and won a court case about it.  He didn't.  He wanted to delay or overturn the election results by any means necessary and had donor dollars to spend so it didn't cost him anything to do it.  As of now it's a conspiracy theory unless someone shows proof.  They caught the attempted fraud, that's a good thing.

You understand that this is something that happened this year, right?

All that you have to do is care about democracy and then this is a big deal to you.

MG, the dems have been ALL ABOUT making voter fraud easier for years now. Mass-mailed unsolicited ballots, no voter ID, ballot harvesting, etc, etc. "What could possibly go wrong [when the FBI is on your side], wink wink."

I know for a fact that the Dems cheated on the 2020 election and so does everyone else with any brains at all. That's because they got caught cheating on the election so many times in 2016, and then they spent 4 years making it easier to cheat in the 2020 election. The FBI also gave the dems a nice October surprise by solving their own Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot, then they told lies about the Hunter laptop to get information about it banned on social media. 

FYI getting the FBI to commit crimes and tell lies to influence the election counts as election cheating, so the Dems ABSOLUTELY cheated on the 202 election. For sure they cheated in other ways, aside from using the FBI as their election sherpas, they just didn't get caught. And who do you think was gonna catch them? The FBI? 🤣 Why would the FBI do all that election cheating for the Dems and then uncover election cheating by the Dems? 

One more thing: this isn't proof that the Dems cheated, but if you're not looking sideways at leftards who claim that it's ridiculous to question the 2020 election then you're an id10t, because the Dems called the 2016 election - which only they got caught cheating on - illegitimate for 4 years. For 4 years they called that election illegitimate. Then somehow on election night, when Trump still looked like he was winning, CNN started saying "Don't worry folks, this election is secure" and just like that, the world's biggest election skeptics instantly started acting like it was complete lunacy to question the results of an election. 

Just remember that it was only two months after the 2020 election that Trump was still questioning the results, and leftards shriek "OMG WHY WAS TRUMP QUESTIONING THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION!?!?!?!?! THAT'S TREASON! TRUMP COMMITTED TREASON BY QUESTIONING THE RESULTS OF THE ELECTION!!!! HE SHOULD BE IN JAIL. HE'S A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY!"

So here we are, and California just made it illegal to ask voters for ID. There are apparently 14 states that don't require ID to vote. Is that not f'ing retarded?

I just voted in BC's provincial election on the 19th and I had to show my ID when I walked into the gymnasium where the ballot boxes were, and again when I got my ballot. Personally, I feel good about that, knowing that someone can't just reach into my mailbox on the day that voter registration cards go out, grab mine, and go cast my vote before I get there. 

https://www.newsweek.com/gavin-newsom-bans-california-requiring-id-vote-1961685

• California is one of 14 states that do not require voter ID for elections, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

• Authored by state Senator Dave Min, the legislation was passed by the California Assembly and Senate earlier this year. Min, a Democrat running for Congress, introduced the bill so local governments cannot impose their own voter ID rules, which he said disproportionately affect low-income, elderly and minority voters.

  "We cannot have 100 different charter cities making up 100 different sets of voting rules based on fringe conspiracy theories," Min said in a statement to the Los Angeles Times.

🤣 Riiight Senator Minnie, it's a "fringe conspiracy theory" that anyone would ever try to cheat on elections. Not one person out of 340M Americans would do that...

What kind of jughead comment is that? That wasn't just a random, possibly retarded adult that said it, he's a senator ffs.

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You really think Trump suddenly and magically cares about "election integrity" 😂

What evidence do you have that Trump never cared about election integrity before?

Honestly what you just did there was make an incredibly stupid accusation which was completely without merit. 

Were you high when you wrote that?

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The only reason the GOP want photo ID is because the people who don't vote for them have a harder time acquiring it or have it less than the people who do vote for them. 

Gimme a break ffs. Anyone too stupid to get ID shouldn't be allowed to vote. You need a 50 IQ and twenty bucks. 

And who's to say that poor people don't vote Republican? 

Do you know who your biggest competition is if you're dirt poor? It's illegal immigrants. They compete for the lowest-paying jobs, even undercut the minimum wage, and they compete for the cheapest housing. They sure AF don't compete with Nancy Pelosi or her family for jobs and housing, do they MG...

When 10M illegals immigrants come across the border, they're all making it that much harder for low-income Americans to get jobs or find a place to live. So what makes you think that ANY of the poor people in America are voting for the dems? 

"Oh PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE NANCY, let in more illegal immigrants, so that I will be able to hire gardeners and nannies and maids and slaughterhouse workers for dirt cheap if I ever get any money!" 

MG you're trotting out platitudes and id10tic comments like they're going out of style right now. I don't get how you go from one extreme to the other like that. 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

 

The only reason the GOP want photo ID is because the people who don't vote for them have a harder time acquiring it or have it less than the people who do vote for them.  And the only reason the Dems don't want voter ID is for the exact opposite reason.

The argument that black people are too dumb to figure out how to get ID is absolutely insane and beyond racist. 

The GDP has no interest in that belief.

And the dems know it's not true either.

The GDP wants to eliminate the option for voter fraud or at least minimize it and the democrats don't.

[gatomontes99]

6 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

If Trump had any evidence whatsoever of actual voter fraud he would have presented to the state courts and won a court case about it.  He didn't.  He wanted to delay or overturn the election results by any means necessary and had donor dollars to spend so it didn't cost him anything to do it.  As of now it's a conspiracy theory unless someone shows proof.  They caught the attempted fraud, that's a good thing.

You really think Trump suddenly and magically cares about "election integrity" 😂

The only reason the GOP want photo ID is because the people who don't vote for them have a harder time acquiring it or have it less than the people who do vote for them.  And the only reason the Dems don't want voter ID is for the exact opposite reason.

Trump's legal teams did provide evidence in their filings. But the courts had no viable solutions. Even if they could have proven there were thousands of illegal votes, how could the court fix that? We don't know how those illegal votes went. Trump claims the illegal votes helped Biden. But, without a ballot attached to the illegal voter, you can't prove that.

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Trump's legal teams did provide evidence in their filings. But the courts had no viable solutions. Even if they could have proven there were thousands of illegal votes, how could the court fix that? We don't know how those illegal votes went. Trump claims the illegal votes helped Biden. But, without a ballot attached to the illegal voter, you can't prove that.

You would have to provide sufficient evidence that there were enough votes that it would reasonably have been likely to alter the results of the election. At that point you might get the courts to overturn the results and call for a new election. 

But - that would be a VERY high bar. Proving there was fraud is one thing, but proving the extent of it is almost impossible under the current laws and rules. You might be able to show that it's likely that there was more or even that it would be impossible to detect if there was more so there might very well be and we don't know, but that's not the same thing.

It's similar to this case we're talking about now. Here is evidence of voter fraud, but probably not enough to overturn a result by itself. But it's existence suggests that there is additional voter fraud that is probably gone undetected. It's quite possibly enough to make a big difference. But how would you know? The effort involved to trying to demonstrate that or prove it would be insane.

This is one of the reasons I have argued all along that the rules around voting need to be beefed up so that is easy to see that there isn't fraud as much as it's easy to prevent it in the first place.

[Fluffypants]

19 hours ago, CdnFox said:

sooooooo....... what's wrong with using those tho if you don't have a dl?

Almost everyone has one or the other and they are interchangeable as legal ID. You almost have to have one or the other to do many really important things in this country. Hell you need one to buy a gun which is also a protected Constitutional right.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Fluffypants said:

Almost everyone has one or the other and they are interchangeable as legal ID. You almost have to have one or the other to do many really important things in this country. Hell you need one to buy a gun which is also a protected Constitutional right.

Not sure I see the problem then.

We show ID when we vote in Canada. We used to have a problem with allegations of voter fraud and such although it was always relatively minimal. But you would see the nDP pull up with a busload of people to vote at a polling station and it was obvious that they were homeless and there was no way to know if they were in the riding or not. But we made some corrections and now you have to have ID to vote and they make it very easy by giving a selection of ID. It's still possible to commit voter fraud but it's very hard and it's hard to do on a level that would seriously impact the election without it being detected.

So in the last election the liberals won despite the conservatives having received more of the popular vote. And what you don't hear is people questioning the system. many are disappointed Or bound and determined to make a different choice i the next time. And many people regret their voting decisions. But everybody respects the result because they know it's hard to cheat without getting caught

America does not have that. Pulling indicates that no matter which side wins the other side feels the election was stolen. America has to have faith in its system or it will fall apart and if that means people have to show ID then that is a cheap price to pay.

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23 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

PA is the lynch pin this year. Is it any wonder there are thousands of fraudulent ballots in PA? ACORN is alive and well and they are in PA.

In my entire life, "voter fraud" was never an issue, until Trump falsely started claiming the elections were rigged starting in 2016. Just like the Nazis, the GOP is gaslighting the public.