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Posted
10 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

Well...fascists were socialist

If you mean in the sense that we see democratic socialists today or even elements of the democrat party in the united states then yes, that's true

Posted
4 hours ago, robosmith said:

You MAGA CULT may believe that, but few others are so stupid.

His ORIGINAL statement was "ON DAY ONE." 

And that's a PROBLEM for ANY candidate for POTUS. Duh

There's only one cult in this country, and it's the democrat party. 

Trump is not planning to be dictator of this country. Now, he may go dictator on the left's ass, but even that isn't permanent. Want to know how I know? Because we have four years of a previous presidency that tells us otherwise. 

Now, go change your diaper. 

Posted
4 hours ago, Rebound said:

1) Lowest sustained sub-4% unemployment rate in U.S. history.  Trump didn’t do that. 
2) Recovered the U.S. economy which Trump destroyed. And which Bush destroyed. Trump didn’t do that. 
3) Investing in renewable energy so our economy will be resilient to OPEC price hikes. Trump didn’t do that. 
4) Investing in renewable energy to reduce the impact of hurricanes. Trump didn’t do that. 
5) Protecting US carmakers by slapping a 100% tariff on Chinese cars. Trump didn’t do that. 
6) Keeping the ports open on the Eastern seaboard. Trump didn’t do that. 
7) Doubling the DJIA to its highest level in history. Trump didn’t do that. 
 

Did Trump really have much impact on illegal immigration?

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1 & 2) Cherry picked bullshit. Let's take a look at the economy from a more complete perspective:

https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/heritage-explains/the-truth-about-joe-bidens-economy

3 & 4) Everyone knows your research and development is driven by politicized bullshit, not necessity, so we'll just flush these two down the toilet. 

5) Protecting US car makers means returning the Motor City to its glory. You perverts haven't done a f*cking thing. 

6) That started in October of this year, dumbass. Trump isn't supposed to do anything about it. 

7) No thanks to Biden. That piece of shit just happened to be in office when that increase occurred. 

 

 

Posted
3 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

YOU know you are lying.

I KNOW that I cited The Atlantic story and THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.

YOU are the one who is lying here, AS USUAL.

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

There's only one cult in this country, and it's the democrat party. 

Trump is not planning to be dictator of this country. Now, he may go dictator on the left's ass, but even that isn't permanent. Want to know how I know? Because we have four years of a previous presidency that tells us otherwise. 

Now, go change your diaper. 

You're the one ^throwing a shit fit. Face reality and you'll get over it. LMAO

Posted
39 minutes ago, Deluge said:

1 & 2) Cherry picked bullshit. Let's take a look at the economy from a more complete perspective:

https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/heritage-explains/the-truth-about-joe-bidens-economy

3 & 4) Everyone knows your research and development is driven by politicized bullshit, not necessity, so we'll just flush these two down the toilet. 

5) Protecting US car makers means returning the Motor City to its glory. You perverts haven't done a f*cking thing. 

6) That started in October of this year, dumbass. Trump isn't supposed to do anything about it. 

7) No thanks to Biden. That piece of shit just happened to be in office when that increase occurred. 

^ALL BULSHIT, including your cite from Heritage: the most right wing propaganda source available.

Posted
1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

If you mean in the sense that we see democratic socialists today or even elements of the democrat party in the united states then yes, that's true

I mean in the sense they believed it was a responsibility of government to provide necessary resources and opportunities to all of its citizens

Posted
21 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

I mean in the sense they believed it was a responsibility of government to provide necessary resources and opportunities to all of its citizens

Well that and a lot of other social programs and a mostly planned economy through corporatism and wanted to control every aspect of the state and the people. He took control of labour unions and "Taught" how important it was to follow the state. Bunch of other things too. 

Facism is not synonymous with socialism but there's no doubt he was more socialist than not. 

Mussolini's social and economic policies – National 5 History SQA Revision – Study Rocket


Economy of fascist Italy - Wikipedia   

Although a disciple of the French Marxist Georges Sorel and the main leader of the Italian Socialist Party in his early years, Mussolini abandoned the theory of class struggle for class collaboration. Some fascist syndicalists turned to economic collaboration of the classes to create a "productivist" posture where "a proletariat of producers" would be critical to the "conception of revolutionary politics" and social revolution.[11] However, most fascist syndicalists instead followed the lead of Edmondo Rossoni, who favored combining nationalism with class struggle,[12] often displaying a hostile attitude towards capitalists. This anti-capitalist hostility was so contentious that in 1926 Rossoni denounced industrialists as "vampires" and "profiteers".[13]

Since Italy’s economy was generally undeveloped with little industrialization, fascists and revolutionary syndicalists, such as Angelo Oliviero Olivetti, argued that the Italian working class could not have the requisite numbers or consciousness "to make revolution".[14] They instead followed Karl Marx's admonition that a nation required "full maturation of capitalism as the precondition for socialist realization".[15] Under this interpretation, especially as expounded by Sergio Panunzio, a major theoretician of Italian fascism, "[s]yndicalists were productivists, rather than distributionists".[16] Fascist intellectuals were determined to foster economic development to enable a syndicalist economy to "attain its productive maximum", which they identified as crucial to "socialist revolution".[17]

 

Mussolini was a socialist. Originally a marxist and still an advocate of the 'socialist revolution' to the end. 

Posted
8 hours ago, robosmith said:

^ALL BULSHIT, including your cite from Heritage: the most right wing propaganda source available.

Don't just stamp your feet and scream, dipshit, refute it. ;) 

9 hours ago, robosmith said:

You're the one ^throwing a shit fit. Face reality and you'll get over it. LMAO

I'm the one telling you like it is. 

Now, what other questions do you have? 

Posted
8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Well that and a lot of other social programs and a mostly planned economy through corporatism and wanted to control every aspect of the state and the people. He took control of labour unions and "Taught" how important it was to follow the state. Bunch of other things too. 

Facism is not synonymous with socialism but there's no doubt he was more socialist than not. 

Mussolini's social and economic policies – National 5 History SQA Revision – Study Rocket


Economy of fascist Italy - Wikipedia   

Although a disciple of the French Marxist Georges Sorel and the main leader of the Italian Socialist Party in his early years, Mussolini abandoned the theory of class struggle for class collaboration. Some fascist syndicalists turned to economic collaboration of the classes to create a "productivist" posture where "a proletariat of producers" would be critical to the "conception of revolutionary politics" and social revolution.[11] However, most fascist syndicalists instead followed the lead of Edmondo Rossoni, who favored combining nationalism with class struggle,[12] often displaying a hostile attitude towards capitalists. This anti-capitalist hostility was so contentious that in 1926 Rossoni denounced industrialists as "vampires" and "profiteers".[13]

Since Italy’s economy was generally undeveloped with little industrialization, fascists and revolutionary syndicalists, such as Angelo Oliviero Olivetti, argued that the Italian working class could not have the requisite numbers or consciousness "to make revolution".[14] They instead followed Karl Marx's admonition that a nation required "full maturation of capitalism as the precondition for socialist realization".[15] Under this interpretation, especially as expounded by Sergio Panunzio, a major theoretician of Italian fascism, "[s]yndicalists were productivists, rather than distributionists".[16] Fascist intellectuals were determined to foster economic development to enable a syndicalist economy to "attain its productive maximum", which they identified as crucial to "socialist revolution".[17]

 

Mussolini was a socialist. Originally a marxist and still an advocate of the 'socialist revolution' to the end. 

Dude, I had to inform YOU that they had a planned economy. You kept saying it was 'market socialism', which it was not. It was full socialism. Now you think you can teach me stuff? Lol

Posted
3 hours ago, Five of swords said:

Dude, I had to inform YOU that they had a planned economy.

LOL. no. you insisted they didn't :) 

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You kept saying it was 'market socialism', which it was not.

it is market socialism kiddo :)  his whole schick was that marx's class revolution wasn't going to happen and that he was looking for class "co-operation' and "full maturation of capitalism as the precondition for socialist realization"

I kind of understand your confusion - the term 'planned economy' is sometimes mistaken for only referring to state owned industry but that is not accurate.  Planned economies can definitely incorporate private ownership and a market element. Those market forces however are strictly controlled by the state and given direction to produce the results that fit the state's vision for the 'social" needs.  In Germany's case it was the belief that the purpose of the state was to expand by military conquest for example. 

If you learned your stuff from a handful of facebook pages and a youtube vid (which seems to be the case) you might have erroneously concluded that a "Planned" economy only referred to "full socialism" as you put it.

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 Now you think you can teach me stuff? 

Well, admittedly it's not going to be easy but if you pay attention and apply yourself I can probably cram a LITTLE knowledge into your rather cramped brain :) 

Posted
4 hours ago, Deluge said:

Don't just stamp your feet and scream, dipshit, refute it. ;) 

I never "scream," a-hole

Your right wing propaganda refutes itself because it's NOT A CREDIBLE SOURCE.

4 hours ago, Deluge said:

I'm the one telling you like it is. 

Now, what other questions do you have? 

How do you live with yourself being a caricature of the MAGA CULT when der leader is a pathological LIAR?

Posted
1 hour ago, robosmith said:

I never "scream," a-hole

Your right wing propaganda refutes itself because it's NOT A CREDIBLE SOURCE.

How do you live with yourself being a caricature of the MAGA CULT when der leader is a pathological LIAR?

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, robosmith said:

I never "scream," a-hole

Your right wing propaganda refutes itself because it's NOT A CREDIBLE SOURCE.

How do you live with yourself being a caricature of the MAGA CULT when der leader is a pathological LIAR?

I swear t' Gawd...robo...you got hormonal issues...

Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.

Posted
7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I swear t' Gawd...robo...you got hormonal issues...

Is THAT what it is?  Rats, i had 20 bucks riding on "dropped as a child".

 

Mind you i suppose two things can be true..

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Posted

Mitch McConnell unloads on 'narcissist' Trump as 'despicable human being': new biography
 

Republican Sen. Mitch McConnell called Donald Trump a "narcissist" and a "despicable human being," among other things, according to an upcoming biography.

"Mitch McConnell said after the 2020 election that then-President Donald Trump was 'stupid as well as being ill-tempered,' a 'despicable human being' and a 'narcissist,' according to excerpts from a new biography of the Senate Republican leader that will be released this month," according to the report. "McConnell made the remarks in private as part of a series of personal oral histories that he made available to Michael Tackett, deputy Washington bureau chief of The Associated Press. Tackett’s book, 'The Price of Power,' draws from almost three decades of McConnell’s recorded diaries and from years of interviews with the normally reticent Kentucky Republican."

https://www.rawstory.com/mcconnell-trump-narcissist/?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic%2Fliberal

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Posted
On 10/12/2024 at 11:05 PM, Deluge said:

1 & 2) Cherry picked bullshit. Let's take a look at the economy from a more complete perspective:

https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/heritage-explains/the-truth-about-joe-bidens-economy

3 & 4) Everyone knows your research and development is driven by politicized bullshit, not necessity, so we'll just flush these two down the toilet. 

5) Protecting US car makers means returning the Motor City to its glory. You perverts haven't done a f*cking thing. 

6) That started in October of this year, dumbass. Trump isn't supposed to do anything about it. 

7) No thanks to Biden. That piece of shit just happened to be in office when that increase occurred. 

 

 

So your response on the economy is to cite the authors of Project 2025? 

21 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Mitch McConnell unloads on 'narcissist' Trump as 'despicable human being': new biography
 

Republican Sen. Mitch McConnell called Donald Trump a "narcissist" and a "despicable human being," among other things, according to an upcoming biography.

 

"Mitch McConnell said after the 2020 election that then-President Donald Trump was 'stupid as well as being ill-tempered,' a 'despicable human being' and a 'narcissist,' according to excerpts from a new biography of the Senate Republican leader that will be released this month," according to the report. "McConnell made the remarks in private as part of a series of personal oral histories that he made available to Michael Tackett, deputy Washington bureau chief of The Associated Press. Tackett’s book, 'The Price of Power,' draws from almost three decades of McConnell’s recorded diaries and from years of interviews with the normally reticent Kentucky Republican."

https://www.rawstory.com/mcconnell-trump-narcissist/?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=topic%2Fliberal

When Moscow Mitch had the opportunity to do something about it, he ran away like a coward.  He could have voted in Trump’s impeachment, but he was too chickenshlt to cast the vote.  I hope he burns in hell. 

@reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Rebound said:

So your response on the economy is to cite the authors of Project 2025? 

No, my response on the economy is to blame Biden and Harris since they're the shepherds of inflation and illegal immigration. 

Posted
5 hours ago, Deluge said:

No, my response on the economy is to blame Biden and Harris since they're the shepherds of inflation and illegal immigration. 

We have illegal immigration because Trump blocked the immigration bill from passing.

We have inflation because it's worldwide. Simple question: Has Donald Trump ever once explained how he will reduce inflation? No! It's just a bunch of empty promises. 

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@reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”

 

Posted
23 minutes ago, Rebound said:

We have illegal immigration because Trump blocked the immigration bill from passing.

This is one of the most dumb and dishonest things you have tried to assert. Illegal immigration existed before that border bill and was out of control under Biden and Harris administration before that bill. 

7 hours ago, Rebound said:

When Moscow Mitch had the opportunity to do something about it, he ran away like a coward.  He could have voted in Trump’s impeachment, but he was too chickenshlt to cast the vote.  I hope he burns in hell. 

Impeachment is about the merits of the impeachment, not what you think personally about someone's character. 

 

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LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... 

From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."

 

Posted
24 minutes ago, Rebound said:

We have illegal immigration because Trump blocked the immigration bill from passing.

 

Right, there wasn't any illegal immigration before that. They were all just standing there along the border and someone said "HEY! TRUMP BLOCKED THE BILL!!!  RUUUUUUUUNNNNN!"   and across they came. 🙄

there were more illegal border crossings in 2023 then during trump's entire time in office. That's before he blocked anything. One of the early things Biden did when he got in was get rid of a whole bunch of laws the trump had put in place that were keeping the border closed. That's why there's excessive illegal immigration.

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Posted
20 minutes ago, Rebound said:

1. We have illegal immigration because Trump blocked the immigration bill from passing.

2. We have inflation because it's worldwide. Simple question: Has Donald Trump ever once explained how he will reduce inflation? No! It's just a bunch of empty promises. 

1. So you're trying to tell me that the only way we can seal our borders is to pass your jackass immigration bill? lol

2. OK, so then you're willing to admit Biden is a complete f*ckup. I'll agree with you there. 

Answer on Trump inflation reduction:

https://www.newsmax.com/finance/michaelbusler/trump-economy-taxes/2024/09/16/id/1180482/

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