J.D. Vance | The Universities are the Enemy

[robosmith]

28 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

More like ordinary people can only laugh at 'educated' people who can't describe what a man is and what a woman is,

You mean they have different definitions than YOU?

I'll tell you: a man is a human with a male brain and a woman is a human with a female brain.

Most often the genitalia are in sync with the brain, but sometimes natural development gets out of sync because those developments occurs at different phases in the womb.

28 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

can't say for sure if calling for the death of Jews is wrong,

What about calling for the death of "terrorists," who are called that because they don't have fire power which is superior enough to wage "war"?

 

28 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

and do their best to denigrate their country and its history at every opportunity while pretending racism is worse today than in the days of slavery.

Facing the truth about history is honesty not "denigration."

[I am Groot]

1 minute ago, Rebound said:

Thats completely false.  Specifically; they do not give black students different tests or grade them differently. It just isn’t true.  

 

Once accepted into medical school, students encounter far less rigorous training than in previous eras. Citing equity goals, many medical schools have moved from issuing grades to pass/fail assessments. A longtime educator himself, Goldfarb is concerned that "the science content of student education has been dramatically reduced. So has the range of clinical experience," which has "diminished the practical value of medical education." What are they learning instead? As Goldfarb describes, "Researchers at the University of Oregon, writing in the journal Academic Medicine in 2021, surveyed the curricula of 122 medical schools and found that more than half had a required course that covered elements of advocacy." The goal of such classes is "clearly political, not medical."

Humanities majors might wince when Goldfarb says, "It is one thing for the Princeton classics department to abandon its Latin requirement for classics majors. It is quite another for Harvard Med to cut training time in biochemistry and pharmacology for future doctors. After all, no one dies if the classics major cannot conjugate morior." 

https://freebeacon.com/culture/woke-medicine-a-prescription-for-disaster/

The campaign for diversity is long running and has some value, yet the ideological extremism of the past two years has led medical schools to adopt dangerous strategies. To fight supposed "systemic racism," at least 40 institutions have dropped the requirement that all applicants take the MCAT, the gold-standard test that measures students' grasp of this life-saving profession. The University of Pennsylvania's Perelman School of Medicine, where I used to work, now waives the MCAT for a number of applicants each year, primarily from Historically Black Colleges and Universities.

It's also getting harder to gauge whether graduates are well prepared. The U.S. Medical Licensing Exam, which residencies rely on when picking trainees, recently abandoned objective grading for a pass/fail system, largely on diversity grounds. And calls are growing for post-graduate resident evaluations to be weakened as well. That would let potentially unqualified individuals enter medical practice and endanger patient well being.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/diversity-delusion-comes-health-care-opinion-1725699

https://freebeacon.com/campus/a-failed-medical-school-how-racial-preferences-supposedly-outlawed-in-california-have-persisted-at-ucla/

[I am Groot]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

You mean they have different definitions than YOU?

I mean different definitions than science.

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

I'll tell you: a man is a human with a male brain and a woman is a human with a female brain.

Most often the genitalia are in sync with the brain, but sometimes natural development gets out of sync because those developments occurs at different phases in the womb.

This happens in an incredibly tiny percentage of the population and generally becomes obvious even before kindergarten. It doesn't just manifest in your thirties and forties.

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

What about calling for the death of "terrorists," who are called that because they don't have fire power which is superior enough to wage "war"?

So you believe calling for the death of Jews is okay?

 

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

Facing the truth about history is honesty not "denigration."

It's not truth that is wrong. It's when someone decides to come up with a new 'truth' unsupported by fact. 

[robosmith]

29 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

You know, this speech decreed the use of skin color in discrimination.  Should we assume you support discriminating based on race?

Discrimination is natural. Discrimination to OPPRESS people who've faced a long history of OPPRESSION is evil.

[I am Groot]

12 minutes ago, robosmith said:

'colonialism' and 'racism' are based on a lot of really bad assumptions that justify the oppression of the weak to serve the dominant ethnic group.

There is no oppression in Western countries. Certainly not in this one. And 'colonialism' is a worldwide thing that only seems to bother people when the people who won are White.

[robosmith]

6 minutes ago, Fluffypants said:

They just give them a bigger curve and preferential treatment. Then the curriculum is dumbed down because a lot of those kids they are letting in can't do the work and would flunk out if they didn't make it easier. Then even the smart kids are ill prepared due to not getting the training they should of received because, gosh we absolutely have to have more black doctors no matter what.

You forgot to post even one scintilla of evidence to support ^this OPINION.

[I am Groot]

33 minutes ago, Rebound said:

No, but when little racists f*ckheads run around and claim that black doctors didn’t have to take tests that were as difficult as the tests given to white doctors, it certainly proves that racism is alive and well in the USA.   

I already proved that happens, you pathetic little twat.

33 minutes ago, Rebound said:

And when those same racist f*ckheads run around claiming that truthfully teaching students about the brutality of slavery and racism which occurred in history of our country is somehow bad, it also proves that racism is alive and well in the USA.

You think people didn't already know that? No one is complaining about teaching that slavery and racism are bad. They're complaining about made-up shit used to justify hating your own country.

Slavery existed as far back as the earliest known human writings and in every corner of the world. 

 

33 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Racists are afraid of the ACTUAL TRUTH. I am not. What is true is true.  Black people were enslaved and it was horribly brutal. And the segregation which followed was pure cruelty and nothing but pure cruelty.  

All peoples were enslaved by others. And it's funny that you complain about segregation when the woke left is now advocating for segregation. 

36 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

The conservative dislike of academia is nothing new. Been happening for hundreds of years. Nothing said on this forum or this thread will change that. When I was attending undergraduate.. the same thing was said. Them darn liberals are brainwashing our poor kids.. and then I laugh 

And yet... what world have those kids, ie you and others your generation wrought? Not a very good one. 

[I am Groot]

7 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Discrimination is natural. Discrimination to OPPRESS people who've faced a long history of OPPRESSION is evil.

Who has a longer history of oppression, blacks or Irish?

[robosmith]

10 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

I mean different definitions than science.

You forgot to post ^this "science definition."

10 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

This happens in an incredibly tiny percentage of the population and generally becomes obvious even before kindergarten. It doesn't just manifest in your thirties and forties.

In fact it can, due to societal SUPPRESSION.

10 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

So you believe calling for the death of Jews is okay?

Depends on the POWER behind the speaker. Some unarmed nutcase on a street corner does no harm.

What about calling for the death of Palestinian "terrorists" who were victims of Zionist terrorism?

 

10 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

It's not truth that is wrong. It's when someone decides to come up with a new 'truth' unsupported by fact. 

And that fact of which you're ignorant is still fact. Teaching fact cures ignorance.

[robosmith]

10 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Who has a longer history of oppression, blacks or Irish?

In the US, clearly blacks. AFAIK, the Irish didn't immigrate enmasse until the potato famine.

[impartialobserver]

14 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

I already proved that happens, you pathetic little twat.

You think people didn't already know that? No one is complaining about teaching that slavery and racism are bad. They're complaining about made-up shit used to justify hating your own country.

Slavery existed as far back as the earliest known human writings and in every corner of the world. 

 

All peoples were enslaved by others. And it's funny that you complain about segregation when the woke left is now advocating for segregation. 

And yet... what world have those kids, ie you and others your generation wrought? Not a very good one. 

"Not a very good one"

Pure opinion and nothing more. 

I laugh at types like you. When I mention that my studies were mostly math and statistics and I ask how I was brainwashed.. all i get is opinionated stuttering and grasping at straws. 

[Rebound]

17 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

I already proved that happens, you pathetic little twat.

You think people didn't already know that? No one is complaining about teaching that slavery and racism are bad. They're complaining about made-up shit used to justify hating your own country.

 

You did not prove that black medical students get easier tests. 

What’s more… yes, many people on your side are complaining about teaching America’s history of slavery. They’re removing books from school libraries which mention slavery. They don’t want it taught, because for some reason they think it makes white children feel ashamed of themselves. Pretty stupld, but conservatives are stupld people, I suppose. 

The fact that Charlie Manson was white doesn’t make me feel ashamed of being white. No reason why it should. 

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

What about calling for the death of Palestinian "terrorists" who were victims of Zionist terrorism?

I’m all for killing terrorists.  

As for “colonialism,” it’s obvious who the colonizers are…

Edited October 1, 2024 by Rebound

[Deluge]

12 hours ago, robosmith said:

Vance not only wants to destroy  universities, but the Republic itself. Doesn't understand that tech is what makes America GREAT.

  

Vance wants to destroy woke, not tech. Get it straight, dipshit. 

[impartialobserver]

as long as you have the first amendment and you allow universities to operate with considerable autonomy.. you are going to have young people pushing new ideas. Social norms will get questioned in these cases. This is nothing new... 

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

“We need to aggressively attack the universities in this country.”

 

And why? Did you listen to the whole thing?

The primary why is that they teach their students that they should discriminate based on skin color. So you are apparently for systematic racism.

34 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Discrimination is natural. Discrimination to OPPRESS people who've faced a long history of OPPRESSION is evil.

Then why did younoppose the speech that spent a large portion of the timebalotted toward preventing the teaching of discrimination based on skin color.

Edited October 1, 2024 by gatomontes99

[Fluffypants]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

You forgot to post even one scintilla of evidence to support ^this OPINION.

I don't need to add evidence I AM Groot posted the evidence you need.

[CdnFox]

Just now, Fluffypants said:

I don't need to add evidence I AM Groot posted the evidence you need.

Which is why his nickname should be "Robosealion" 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

And why? Did you listen to the whole thing?

The primary why is that they teach their students that they should discriminate based on skin color. So you are apparently for systematic racism.

No one at my university taught me that. You and Vance are LYING.

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

Then why did younoppose the speech that spent a large portion of the timebalotted toward preventing the teaching of discrimination based on skin color.

Just cause Vance claims that is happening at universities, does not make it true.

He is obviously PANDERING to his right wing audience and you fell for it.

15 minutes ago, Fluffypants said:

I don't need to add evidence I AM Groot posted the evidence you need.

Any article which includes BULLSHIT terms like "woke" has no scientific rigor nor respect for the truth.

[Fluffypants]

9 minutes ago, robosmith said:

No one at my university taught me that. You and Vance are LYING.

 

Aren't you old? We are talking about Universities today not University in the 50s.

Edited October 1, 2024 by Fluffypants

[robosmith]

16 minutes ago, Fluffypants said:

Aren't you old? We are talking about Universities today not University in the 50s.

You are listening to Vance and FOS LIES, so your "talking" is misinformed.

[Legato]

54 minutes ago, robosmith said:

No one at my university taught me that. You and Vance are LYING.

 

Arts or science degree?

[Michael Hardner]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Not war on knowledge Mike and you know it. Its a war for truth and a war against woke little freaks who hate America.  

You're an admitted culture warrior, so I expect that you see the value in shutting down the universities and jailing the profs.

[robosmith]

24 minutes ago, Legato said:

Arts or science degree?

Master of Science

How's the Uber business? LMAO

[CdnFox]

11 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Master of Science

How's the Uber business? LMAO

Nobody believes that.  You got shot down in 3 seconds  when someone talked computers to you and you claimed to be a computer expert. You didn't understand how time works when that science discussion came up.  And looking at your posts it's very hard to believe you've got more than a grade 12 education. 

I doubt you even stayed in a holiday inn last night  

[Legato]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Master of Science

How's the Uber business? LMAO

How many grads were you under?