What Do We Do?

[Old Guy]

6 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

What do we do WHEN (not if) the left is finally successful in killing DJT?

The first attempt was by a registered republican seeking fame and glory and was not a "lefty".  The  second attempt was foiled before the gunman even had a shot. He did call Trump a buffoon but who can argue with that assessment.  I would argue, however, that being a buffoon is not reason enough to be shot.  There is no evidence that either of these incidents were carried out or orchestrated by "lefties".  But then again when did truth ever enter Trumps MAGA world.  

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Black Dog said:

Nothing I said was a lie, dummy.

Yeah it was.  Both were dems.  Sorry. 

 

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There's no evidence that pro-life beliefs translate into fewer abortions.

Sure there is.  Republicans say they're against it at a hugely higher percent, republican states pass laws severely restricting access. 

It ain't absolute proof but it's very compelling evidence.  To anyone with a brain that is.  Let me know if you need it explained. 

On the other hand democrats actively promote having abortions.  So there you go. 

You're literally rooting for the slaughter of your own kind.  I mean.... i can't blame you or say you're wrong or anything.... 

[Black Dog]

Just now, CdnFox said:

Yeah it was.  Both were dems.  Sorry. 

"The registered Republican was actually a Dem" lmao.

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Sure there is.  Republicans say they're against it at a hugely higher percent, republican states pass laws severely restricting access. 

LOL, that doesn't tell us anything about the actual numbers of them getting abortions, dummy. Again, Republicans "say" they're against it but we know you creatures lie all the time so that doesn't mean anything. The state with the most abortions is Florida. Number three is Texas. Georgia, North Carolina and Ohio are also in the top 10.

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On the other hand democrats actively promote having abortions.  So there you go. 

lol imagine being so stupid that you don't know the difference between promoting access to abortion and actually promoting abortions.

[Legato]

13 minutes ago, Old Guy said:

The first attempt was by a registered republican seeking fame and glory and was not a "lefty".  The  second attempt was foiled before the gunman even had a shot. He did call Trump a buffoon but who can argue with that assessment.  I would argue, however, that being a buffoon is not reason enough to be shot.  There is no evidence that either of these incidents were carried out or orchestrated by "lefties".  But then again when did truth ever enter Trumps MAGA world.  

Of course he was a lefty. Republicans don't make Blue donations and then go out and shoot their own candidate.

[CdnFox]

17 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

"The registered Republican was actually a Dem" lmao.

Yep and that's been proven. Pretending otherwise just makes you look stupid. The person registered as a republican in his mid teens turned out to be a dem as an adult. Not exactly shocking. People change and at that age more than most times. 

I mean i do get it - you cant' actually debate the real issues so you try to lie to distract.  very left wing of you. 

19 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

LOL, that doesn't tell us anything about the actual numbers of them getting abortions, dummy.

Sure it does.  

Again, not surprising you don't know what evidence is or how it works. 

In republican states republicans have voted to have fewer abortions. Republicans support there being fewer abortions.  This is in fact evidence that republicans are less likely to have abortions.   Democrats support abortions to the point of encouraging it and pass laws in democrat states making abortions more available.  That is in fact evidence that dems are more likely to have abortions. 

See.... this is why your kind keep wiping yourselves out.  Even basic reason and logic completely escapes you  

[Old Guy]

It's natural that MAGA and Trump would want to blame the Left but of course not only is there no evidence there is no reason to remove Trump. Who does have motivation to slide Trump out of the frame? My money is someone in the republican party. I have no proof but there are a number of good reasons,

1. Trump has lost his mojo while Harris seems to be capturing the imagination of more voters.

2. If Trump loses he goes to jail unless he takes refuge in some country whose leader he loves. Russia maybe, China perhaps, Israel Netanyahu has his own legal woes, North Korea Rocket man would surely find a use for him. But my money would go on Saudi-Arabia. Heck they might even set him up with his own little harem.

3. Trump is old an effective attack used against Biden. But unlike Biden Trump would never quit. His ego wouldn't be able to stand it.

4. Trump has made it clear to the RNC that if he goes down he will take them all with him. He knows who has secrets and given the level of corruption in that party from the supreme court down there is a lot to protect.

5. His cognitive disabilities are becoming more and more apparent getting him out of the picture might give another republican an opportunity to salvage a win. However it might be near impossible for the party to coalesce around one person. Look at the difficulty they had electing a speaker in the House.

6. I bet he has lots of life insurance so perhaps its family.

7. He is not popular with the mainstream republican party - Heck when someone like Dick Chaney announces he is voting for Harris you know the ship is sinking. 

The Dems want him to finish the race because they know how to rattle him and the more he is rattled the less presidential he appears.  Imagine the Trump we saw at the debate in a G8 meeting or in negotiations with any world leader.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, Old Guy said:

t's natural that MAGA and Trump would want to blame the Left but of course not only is there no evidence there is no reason to remove Trump.

I see you're maintaining your tradition of starting off with a lie. It is now known that both are democrats, at least one of them appears to have had political motives with some certainty. There is less proof that it was politically motivated with the first one, but a Democrat and Biden supporter and donor choosing to shoot at a republican presidential candidate during a campaign certainly does speak to the likelihood of it being political. Pretending that there's no evidence whatsoever is simply dishonest

As to trump, trump has the advantage of this point. And that's especially true after the shooting. The race is going to be close so it's not like he's got it in the bag but he certainly has an excellent chance of winning.

The complaint against Biden wasn't that he was old, the complaint was that he was well into the stages of dementia

The rest of your points are just simply stupid. If he becomes president he'll have more money than god but his family is trying to kill him because insurance. Kay.  

The democrats have pushed the idea that he's Hitler and the end of civilization as we know it so hard it's hardly surprising that some of their supporters are starting to take pot shots at him. This is hardly the first time we've seen this.

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, Old Guy said:

The first attempt was by a registered republican seeking fame and glory and was not a "lefty".  The  second attempt was foiled before the gunman even had a shot. He did call Trump a buffoon but who can argue with that assessment.  I would argue, however, that being a buffoon is not reason enough to be shot.  There is no evidence that either of these incidents were carried out or orchestrated by "lefties".  But then again when did truth ever enter Trumps MAGA world.  

You keep telling yourself that. Meanwhile, back in reality, two people that were driven by left wing rhetoric have attempted to murder a former president. These actions were predicted by several people on the right. Their predictions were based on the progression of left wing actions against Donald Trump and the progressively relaxed security provided by the USSS.

[Old Guy]

42 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

The registered Republican was actually a Dem" lmao.

Giving 15 dollars to a group with a democratic platform doesn't change the fact that he was a registered republican until his death. The authorities are still trying to determine his motivations. The guy at the golf course definitely was a democrat  but seemed primarily motivated by the possibility that Trump would end funding to Ukraine.  Even given that republicans and their supporters are trying to make it sound like it is some kind of plot.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Old Guy said:

The first attempt was by a registered republican seeking fame and glory and was not a "lefty". 

Sucker. It's already well-known that he was a lefty who joined the GOP just to get access to targets. 

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He did call Trump a buffoon but who can argue with that assessment.  I would argue, however, that being a buffoon is not reason enough to be shot.  There is no evidence that either of these incidents were carried out or orchestrated by "lefties".  But then again when did truth ever enter Trumps MAGA world.  

Wow. Look at that whole BS paragraph, and the abject stupidity of it, and then imagine being cocky enough to throw an insult on at the end 🤣

Do you honestly think that "a Republican who thought Trump was a buffoon" went all the way from NC to Fla to kill him? How about if you just stop trying to figure shit out for us, mmmmkayyyy?

 

[Old Guy]

46 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

You keep telling yourself that. Meanwhile, back in reality, two people that were driven by left wing rhetoric have attempted to murder a former president. These actions were predicted by several people on the right. Their predictions were based on the progression of left wing actions against Donald Trump and the progressively relaxed security provided by the USSS.

Any credible evidence for your statement that "two people that were driven by left wing rhetoric have attempted to murder a former president." Or is that just some BS you heard on news max or truth social or perhaps Alex Jones?  

Whose predictions were they? 

All you have are unevidenced assertions. 

[CdnFox]

30 minutes ago, Old Guy said:

Giving 15 dollars to a group with a democratic platform doesn't change the fact that he was a registered republican until his death.

Yes it does.  Sorry.  And his online posts strongly supported biden and his policies. 

If you have to lie to make your point its probably not a very good point. 

[Old Guy]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Wow. Look at that whole BS paragraph, and the abject stupidity of it, and then imagine being cocky enough to throw an insult on at the end 🤣

How do you tell a post is from a right wing extremist?  Because they start off by name calling, stupid seems to be a favorite of theirs.

I acknowledged in my post that the guy who called Trump a buffoon was a democrat. In your haste to to call me stupid you didn't fully read or perhaps comprehend my post. 

Sorry if you took my question as an insult but let me ask again, when did truth matter to Trumps MAGA World?

[Old Guy]

19 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Sucker. It's already well-known that he was a lefty who joined the GOP just to get access to targets.

Unevidenced assertion. And Alex Jones and Steve Bannon doesn't count. They lie more than Trump - Oh what am I saying no-one lies more than Trump. 

[Old Guy]

13 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Yes it does.  Sorry.  And his online posts strongly supported biden and his policies. 

If you have to lie to make your point its probably not a very good point. 

Can you post a link to support you assertions or do I just add them to the BS pile.

[Five of swords]

9 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

What do we do WHEN (not if) the left is finally successful in killing DJT?

Is 'the left' trying to kill him?

[Five of swords]

1 hour ago, Old Guy said:

Giving 15 dollars to a group with a democratic platform doesn't change the fact that he was a registered republican until his death. The authorities are still trying to determine his motivations. The guy at the golf course definitely was a democrat  but seemed primarily motivated by the possibility that Trump would end funding to Ukraine.  Even given that republicans and their supporters are trying to make it sound like it is some kind of plot.

The guy was not a Democrat or a republican. Torba shared a very revealing debate the guy got into on gab (and no 'democrats' bother going on gab, btw) where he clearly was just accusing Trump of not keeping his promises on immigration. So If anything, the guy was a true believer in thrump's 2016 rhetoric and then learned after 4 years of Trump being president that he was actually a fraud.

 

In fact, the only people who would have a real motive to take out Trump would be an authentic white nationalist. Because accelerationism,, and because Trump serves as a pressure release valve for white people feeling annoyed at being dispossessed.

 

'The left' actually loves Trump because his rhetoric seems to scare a lot of people, who then vote Democrat. They would never take him out.

[gatomontes99]

55 minutes ago, Old Guy said:

Any credible evidence for your statement that "two people that were driven by left wing rhetoric have attempted to murder a former president." Or is that just some BS you heard on news max or truth social or perhaps Alex Jones?  

Whose predictions were they? 

All you have are unevidenced assertions. 

I've actually evidenced those assertions earlier. Maybe you should go back and take a look at it.

[CdnFox]

50 minutes ago, Old Guy said:

How do you tell a post is from a right wing extremist?  Because they start off by name calling, 

Everyone right of castro is a "right wing extremist" to your kind. 

And btw  you started off with name calling.

.which is admittedly a step up from how you usually start which is with a lie

Edited September 17, 2024 by CdnFox

[CdnFox]

44 minutes ago, Old Guy said:

Can you post a link to support you assertions or do I just add them to the BS pile.

Been done many times here already. This is common knowledge. But I'm sure you'll lie about it no matter what happens because that's what your kind does. I could post it all here again with a note from god certifying it and tomorrow you'd still see lion demanding more. The ability to lie to yourself is a basic survival instinct for the left these days apparently. 

So far two democrat supporters have chosen to attempt to kill trump. Given the extreme rhetoric of the left they were likely motivated by the claims of the democratic party that trump is hitler (or worse) and that he will end democracy and that he will see 'blood in the streets' if he's not elected. Those words have consequences. 

Rather than own that like a decent human you choose to pretend otherwise and lie.  

If you have to lie to make your point you probably dont' have a very good point. 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Old Guy said:

Giving 15 dollars to a group with a democratic platform doesn't change the fact that he was a registered republican until his death. The authorities are still trying to determine his motivations. The guy at the golf course definitely was a democrat  but seemed primarily motivated by the possibility that Trump would end funding to Ukraine.  Even given that republicans and their supporters are trying to make it sound like it is some kind of plot.

I am becoming concerned that this is no longer a right/left thing. It's beginning to smell like an elite vs lower classes thing.

This would be assassin was in Ukraine? Doesn't that mean the CIA know who he is?

If Trump wins he'll end that war. Now who do you suppose might be upset by that? Other that the Cheyneys and Bushes I mean...

[Deluge]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

On a theoretical level that's true, but there are certain practical considerations when it comes to running a campaign. It's possible he could win, but he would be at a severe disadvantage. I'm not even sure there would be time to redo the ballots. 

The most likely scenario is harris would win, republicans would feel that the democrats had shot their chances at having a democratic say in the country, and there would be blood

You have a point here. Most Americans are pretty obliviouos to what's going on in the trenches as they usually consume left-wing media without really understanding that it's left-wing. 

[Old Guy]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

If Trump wins he'll end that war. Now who do you suppose might be upset by that? Other that the Cheyneys and Bushes I mean...

How about all the country's that share a border with Russia and especially those that were former vassal states.  

[Old Guy]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

But I'm sure you'll lie about it no matter what happens because that's what your kind does.

Congrats you got all the way to the third sentence without resorting to name calling.  And of course no link. 

[CouchPotato]

11 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

What do we do WHEN (not if) the left is finally successful in killing DJT?

Keep on fightin'.