Army Guy Posted September 17, 2024 Report Posted September 17, 2024 21 hours ago, Moonbox said: Evidently not, since they've repeatedly called Russia's bluff, crossed a series of Putin's balogna red lines, and the nukes have predictably not been launched. That inconvenient fact is something that throws a pretty big wrench in your logic - one that I'd be stunned if you actually tried to address. Thats your opinion, i'm sure inside NATO HQ/ and the US president the story would be a little different...where they separate the wheat from the chaff, something the media does not have access to...So your guessing....The fact they have heeded some of these threats and have taken the slow role response to Ukraine's needs is very telling....something that seems to be lost on you... Putin ally warns Scholz about escalating war with Russia (msn.com) Why has Germany not given permission to use their long range missiles deep into Russia, why has it taken this long for the US to give permission to use it's long range tacams missiles into deep russian targets...I mean you have been clear and said NATO and the US see Russian threats as empty, or Bologna was your words....so what explains all these delays or hesitation into providing more than a few dozen's tanks, or air defense missiles into ukraine....etc etc... You have not addressed the fact that "If" NATO is casually pushing Putin's threats aside as they have no consequences or value WHY have they not addressed Ukraines need for additional arms and equipment. What is holding them back from giving Ukraine all the equipment they need to throw out Russia.... Quote Sept 15 (Reuters) - Ukrainian troops are suffering high losses because Western arms are arriving too slowly to equip the armed forces properly, President Volodymyr Zelenskiy told CNN in an interview aired on Sunday. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-suffering-high-losses-due-slow-arms-supplies-says-zelenskiy-2024-09-15/ The fact that is the common thread in this hole conflict NATO's slow role on delivery supplies and new equipment is cost Ukrainian lives at the front...The other fact is that most of the tanks and IFV that were supplied have been destroyed, or are nearly gone....US is thinking about sending more Bradly's but none have arrived yet, and crickets from other european nations... And like have said before NATO nations are more concerned about there present stocks as they get low...causing even more delays....the cookie jar is almost emptied, and western production can not even handle the back log...as it is not fully back on line.... US delays weapon supplies to Ukraine, worrying about its own stockpiles (msn.com) Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Moonbox Posted September 18, 2024 Report Posted September 18, 2024 18 hours ago, Army Guy said: Thats your opinion, i'm sure inside NATO HQ/ and the US president the story would be a little different. No, that's the thing. This isn't an opinion. I'm objectively describing exactly what's happened. Putin has ranted and threatened nuclear escalation and warned about red lines every step of the way. NATO has crossed those red lines over and over again, and there have predictably been no consequences. There are all sorts of reasons why the West and NATO have not been supporting Ukraine sufficiently or reliably. We've talked about those elsewhere, but none of it addresses the reality that Putin's threats have consistently born out as limp-dick posturing, that NATO has repeatedly called those bluffs. Nonetheless, here you are unwittingly arguing on his behalf and regurgitating his tired old rhetoric. Now the red line, I suppose, is super-super-duper, totally-absolutely-serious-this-time, right? 🙄 As I said, that's a wrench in your logic that you just can't bring yourself to acknowledge. 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Army Guy Posted September 18, 2024 Report Posted September 18, 2024 2 minutes ago, Moonbox said: No, that's the thing. This isn't an opinion. I'm objectively describing exactly what's happened. Putin has ranted and threatened nuclear escalation and warned about red lines every step of the way. NATO has crossed those red lines over and over again, and there have predictably been no consequences. There are all sorts of reasons why the West and NATO have not been supporting Ukraine sufficiently or reliably. We've talked about those elsewhere, but none of it addresses the reality that Putin's threats have consistently born out as limp-dick posturing, that NATO has repeatedly called those bluffs. Nonetheless, here you are unwittingly arguing on his behalf and regurgitating his tired old rhetoric. Now the red line, I suppose, is super-super-duper, totally-absolutely-serious-this-time, right? 🙄 As I said, that's a wrench in your logic that you just can't bring yourself to acknowledge. It is your opinion, provide a source that says just that that NATO brushes aside all of Russians threats or warnings....because it is not a fact but your opinion... And every step of the way NATO has taken every threat seriously, that's their job.....and it has delayed NATO response to Ukraine's desperate need for equipment...Which is why still today some NATO countries will not give Ukraine permission to use their long range missiles in attacks on Russia...Because of Russian threats or consequences...And not all of them are the use of nuclear weapons... The US just gave permission to use tacam missiles...just this week...WHY is that...If the threats are bogus why not let Ukraine missile the shit of the Russians, a question everyone on this forum wants answered........Because they did not want to escalate with Russian and of course their threats to escalate ...You just don't want to see the consequences...One of those consequences are Ukraine is not getting the equipment it needs....There is no other answer to this unless NATO is not taking the whole Ukraine thing serious...what other explanation is there? List a few of these so called reasons for the readers following along...Even the media is telling a much different story than you lay it out to be.....Putin's threats may be limp dick gestures to you, but to NATO it is giving them pause...or Ukraine would be a wash with new mordern NATO equipment instead of the mostly obsolete stuff that NATO sent... YA, pointing out that NATO is slow rolling desperately needed equipment and supplies to ukraine due to Putin's threats is cheerleading for the russia side...When really this not about that at all it is i'm not cheerleading your message....anything else is cheerleading for the Russians... It is not a wrench in my logic,you side of the story makes no sense at all...if NATO has nothing to fear in consequences as you say, then why has this conflict gone on so long...why not give ukraine everything it needs to defeat Russia, or put on the big boy pants and just order Russia to get out of face NATO troops... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Guest Posted September 18, 2024 Report Posted September 18, 2024 On 9/13/2024 at 10:49 PM, blackbird said: It sounds like this could trigger World War III. Doubtful. Nobody listens to Trudeau. Quote
Moonbox Posted September 18, 2024 Report Posted September 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: It is your opinion, provide a source that says just that that NATO brushes aside all of Russians threats or warnings....because it is not a fact but your opinion... First off, you're asking me to cite something I never said. 👌 Second, unless you're trying to tell us that Putin hasn't previously threatened all sorts of red lines that NATO has subsequently crossed without consequence, what I did say was not an opinion. It was fact. I'll leave you to clarify your position, but I'm not going to bother read your rambling wall of text until you do. 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Army Guy Posted September 18, 2024 Report Posted September 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Moonbox said: First off, you're asking me to cite something I never said. 👌 Second, unless you're trying to tell us that Putin hasn't previously threatened all sorts of red lines that NATO has subsequently crossed without consequence, what I did say was not an opinion. It was fact. I'll leave you to clarify your position, but I'm not going to bother read your rambling wall of text until you do. Then i misunderstanding your intention behind your statements...because when i read them they imply NATO is now thinking all of Putin's threats are moot points and brush them aside...when that is not the case at all...And not all of NATO is on the same Page on this very topic....with how their weapons are used on russian soil. Quote Putin has ranted and threatened nuclear escalation and warned about red lines every step of the way. NATO has crossed those red lines over and over again, and there have predictably been no consequences. Yes they have crossed those lines over and over again, But not without some serious conversations and deliberations...And there has been consequences it has made NATO very cautious about crossing those lines to the point it has delayed supplying Ukraine with desperately needed equipment or permissions to use NATO supplied munition on Russian soil...like long range missiles... Quote and his threats of "red lines" have been crossed over and over again, and revealed as impotent. Impotent is not the word i would use, as i have already said, NATO takes all these threats seriously, they are not just brushed aside as you somehow suggest, the consequences they have is slowing up NATO's suppling of arms or putting restrictions on how these arms are used such as long range missiles, and a whole range of other weapons when used on Russian territory... So yes when i say that is your opinion and it is not based on fact but your perception of what happened... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Moonbox Posted September 18, 2024 Report Posted September 18, 2024 16 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Then i misunderstanding your intention behind your statements...because when i read them they imply NATO is now thinking all of Putin's threats are moot points and brush them aside...when that is not the case at all.. There's a difference between taking the objective danger implied in the threat seriously, vs the blustering pageantry of the threat itself and the man making it. The former would be irresponsible to ignore, so yes, NATO considers it carefully in its planning and action. The latter, on the other hand, has proven over and over again that his strength is exaggerated, that his threats have been hollow, and nothing he says is credible. Even if Putin's balogna was real, and that when the first ATACM hits a Russian airbase he'll launch nukes, consider the implications: You're arguing that murderous dictators can throw nuclear tantrums to take what they want in wars of aggression, and that we should appease them. 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Army Guy Posted September 18, 2024 Report Posted September 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Moonbox said: There's a difference between taking the objective danger implied in the threat seriously, vs the blustering pageantry of the threat itself and the man making it. The former would be irresponsible to ignore, so yes, NATO considers it carefully in its planning and action. The latter, on the other hand, has proven over and over again that his strength is exaggerated, that his threats have been hollow, and nothing he says is credible. Even if Putin's balogna was real, and that when the first ATACM hits a Russian airbase he'll launch nukes, consider the implications: You're arguing that murderous dictators can throw nuclear tantrums to take what they want in wars of aggression, and that we should appease them. Thats not what i'm agreeing to , each threat is carefully looked to determine its value....nothing is thrown out because the last one million threats have proved to be limp...the fact that NATO is still very Cautious on what weapons are provided and what restrictions they put on their use...is evident of that...along with the slow role to arm and equip Ukraine... NATO stills takes Russian ability to wage war very serious...As NATO is not as strong as it use to be, a good portion of it's members are in a panic to rearm as they have cashed in on the peace bonds way to hard, and now find themselves unprepared... I think most of his threats say there will be consequences....not sure what they are but every threat he makes has consequences for NATO... No where in any of my posts did i say that, in fact i have said many times NATO should get off the pot, and give Ukraine the tools it needs to throw russia out and keep them out...to end this meat grinder once and for all...I know somehow that will translate i am cheerleading for russia some how...America should be gearing up it's propaganda machine and convince Russian civilian what this war is all about....Ukraine is "desperate' for materials, WHERE ARE THEY ? Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Moonbox Posted September 19, 2024 Report Posted September 19, 2024 15 hours ago, Army Guy said: Thats not what i'm agreeing to , each threat is carefully looked to determine its value....nothing is thrown out because the last one million threats have proved to be limp... No. Each step in NATO's escalation of aid to Ukraine is carefully considered, because there are dangers to it. Vladimir Putin's farcical ranting and limp posturing is paid little heed. After making a million limp threats, as you say, nobody takes your threats seriously anymore. That's how credibility works. 16 hours ago, Army Guy said: No where in any of my posts did i say that, in fact i have said many times NATO should get off the pot, and give Ukraine the tools it needs to throw russia out and keep them out...to end this meat grinder once and for all. Perhaps you should spend your energy arguing that point then, instead of pages and pages dedicated to exaggerating Russian strength and Russian accomplishments, while minimizing that of their opponents? Just a thought... Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Army Guy Posted September 19, 2024 Report Posted September 19, 2024 6 hours ago, Moonbox said: No. Each step in NATO's escalation of aid to Ukraine is carefully considered, because there are dangers to it. Vladimir Putin's farcical ranting and limp posturing is paid little heed. After making a million limp threats, as you say, nobody takes your threats seriously anymore. That's how credibility works. Perhaps you should spend your energy arguing that point then, instead of pages and pages dedicated to exaggerating Russian strength and Russian accomplishments, while minimizing that of their opponents? Just a thought... Your first line is exactly what i have been saying all this time, and is why NATO has been slow rolling their supplying equipment and weapons.......Because of Putin's threats are having consequences... So which one is it, carefully consider becasue there are dangers to each threat, or nobody is taking Putin's threats serious ...you can't play both sides of the fence here... Maybe if you read what i've been posting you would clearly see i've been doing just that....countering your argument about Russia has made no gains when they clearly have was just one small part of my posts... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Moonbox Posted September 19, 2024 Report Posted September 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: Maybe if you read what i've been posting you would clearly see i've been doing just that....countering your argument about Russia has made no gains when they clearly have was just one small part of my posts. At no point have I ever said Russia hasn't made any gains. This isn't the first, the second, or even the 10th time I've told you that either. You're brazenly lying now. I'm not reading your long rants because: 1) Your formatting sucks. You refuse to use the quotation function properly like everyone else, so it's never really clear what exactly you're responding to. 2) You drop long walls of text - a bunch of stream-of-consciousness rambling that buries whatever relevant points (if any) in a deluge of worthless exposition and irrelevant "citation". 3) You don't respond to what people are saying, but rather what you decide you want them to be saying. The bolded part above is a good example. Whether that's intentional dishonesty and bad-faith on your part, or a reading comprehension problem makes no difference. It's not worth putting any energy into it. 😑 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Army Guy Posted September 20, 2024 Report Posted September 20, 2024 5 hours ago, Moonbox said: At no point have I ever said Russia hasn't made any gains. This isn't the first, the second, or even the 10th time I've told you that either. You're brazenly lying now. I'm not reading your long rants because: 1) Your formatting sucks. You refuse to use the quotation function properly like everyone else, so it's never really clear what exactly you're responding to. 2) You drop long walls of text - a bunch of stream-of-consciousness rambling that buries whatever relevant points (if any) in a deluge of worthless exposition and irrelevant "citation". 3) You don't respond to what people are saying, but rather what you decide you want them to be saying. The bolded part above is a good example. Whether that's intentional dishonesty and bad-faith on your part, or a reading comprehension problem makes no difference. It's not worth putting any energy into it. 😑 Quote 1) Your formatting sucks. You refuse to use the quotation function properly like everyone else, so it's never really clear what exactly you're responding to. excellent point, i'll try and keep that in mind....forum rules dictate we don't use this format....but sure...just for you. Quote 2) You drop long walls of text - a bunch of stream-of-consciousness rambling that buries whatever relevant points (if any) in a deluge of worthless exposition and irrelevant "citation". So you waste both of our time by responding , when you have not really understood my post or failed to read it them altogether...So why respond then Quote 3) You don't respond to what people are saying, but rather what you decide you want them to be saying. The bolded part above is a good example. Whether that's intentional dishonesty and bad-faith on your part, or a reading comprehension problem makes no difference. It's not worth putting any energy into it. 😑 Now your just playing with words, your 100 % correct you never said Russia is not making any gains...what you did say was those gains are mere meters, or the size of yuri's farm....almost the same thing...so ya i'm a fuc*ing liar... Maybe you should just save yourselves the grief and put my name on ignore i mean you don't really read my post anyways...you are just looking for someone to batter around...or feel superior to...I hope i addressed all your points, and in the right format.... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Nationalist Posted September 20, 2024 Report Posted September 20, 2024 On 9/14/2024 at 1:21 PM, eyeball said: What part of fu ck Putin isn't there to get? When did the better dead than...red/Putin/whatever policy change? Tell ya what. YOU go fck Putin. If you survive, come tell me how that worked out for ya. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Moonbox Posted September 20, 2024 Report Posted September 20, 2024 11 hours ago, Army Guy said: excellent point, i'll try and keep that in mind....forum rules dictate we don't use this format....but sure...just for you. Forum rules specifically dictate not to do what you have been doing 😆. Somehow everyone else manages to get by... 11 hours ago, Army Guy said: So you waste both of our time by responding , when you have not really understood my post or failed to read it them altogether...So why respond then If I can see in your first sentence that you've missed the point entirely of whatever you're responding to, why would I read the next 6 paragraphs of irrelevant rambling? Like...what did you figure you were getting at citing the Kazakh Prime Minister proclaiming the Russian military was invincible? Seriously. W.T.F? 11 hours ago, Army Guy said: Now your just playing with words, your 100 % correct you never said Russia is not making any gains...what you did say was those gains are mere meters, or the size of yuri's farm....almost the same thing...so ya i'm a fuc*ing liar... Meters per day, wasteful, coming at atrocious cost, not noticeable on a map unless you zoom in on individual streets, farms and villages - THAT's what I've been saying, and that's been explained to you dozens of times. Still, despite that, you keep repeating that I deny they're making any gains, and then posting proof that the Russians are, in fact, advancing meters per day. 🙄 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Army Guy Posted September 21, 2024 Report Posted September 21, 2024 4 hours ago, Moonbox said: Forum rules specifically dictate not to do what you have been doing 😆. Somehow everyone else manages to get by... 1.....If I can see in your first sentence that you've missed the point entirely of whatever you're responding to, why would I read the next 6 paragraphs of irrelevant rambling? 2.....Like...what did you figure you were getting at citing the Kazakh Prime Minister proclaiming the Russian military was invincible? Seriously. W.T.F? 3.....Meters per day, wasteful, coming at atrocious cost, not noticeable on a map unless you zoom in on individual streets, farms and villages - THAT's what I've been saying, and that's been explained to you dozens of times. 4.....Still, despite that, you keep repeating that I deny they're making any gains, and then posting proof that the Russians are, in fact, advancing meters per day. 🙄 1....thanks.... 2...It was a warning to the Germany....passed on from Putin , warning him about giving permission to Ukraine to use germany's long range missiles....To which Germany refuses to give permission because they are afraid of what Putin will do... 3....It's NOT meters per day i've show you this dozens of times....it is also covered in almost every news media station there is....this is a "you" comprehension problem not a my problem... 4....I posted maps and media articles that proved to you that russian forces are capturing ground in a lot of cases KM per day...your in denial about this entire topic, everything i've posted has proven you wrong at every turn, on production rates of Ammo, on how much ground russians have taken, and that The Russians do not care about their casualty rate...... your now making the augments you don't like my posting style or it is me that does not understand the sources i posted...this is not just me....you do this with everyone you post to...if they don't hold the same opinion as you....your never wrong and will argue to the death despite being wrong... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Moonbox Posted September 22, 2024 Report Posted September 22, 2024 On 9/20/2024 at 10:03 PM, Army Guy said: 2...It was a warning to the Germany....passed on from Putin , warning him about giving permission to Ukraine to use germany's long range missiles....To which Germany refuses to give permission because they are afraid of what Putin will do... It said nothing about missiles whatsoever. Once again, you're just making up what you want your sources to say. Regardless, you're unironically citing the Kazakh Prime Minister proclaiming Russia's military as invincible, while it faceplants in Ukraine. 🤣 On 9/20/2024 at 10:03 PM, Army Guy said: 3....It's NOT meters per day i've show you this dozens of times....it is also covered in almost every news media station there is....this is a "you" comprehension problem not a my problem... You haven't shown squat. Dumping dozens of useless/irrelevant news articles doesn't somehow re-organize reality and re-draw the maps for you. Even on the hottest part of the front, Russian progress is measured in meters per day. At no point over the last two years have they managed any sort of sustained progress beyond that, and what little there has been has been highly local. At Russia's current rates of advance, they'll complete their conquest of Ukraine in around 1000 years. That's the math, and it doesn't give a shit about your snowflake opinion. On 9/20/2024 at 10:03 PM, Army Guy said: your now making the augments you don't like my posting style or it is me that does not understand the sources i posted...this is not just me....you do this with everyone you post to...if they don't hold the same opinion as you....your never wrong and will argue to the death despite being wrong... You complained I wasn't reading your longwinded rants. I told you why. If you're too lazy to organize your thoughts and write concisely, you're wasting nobody's time but your own. Barfing out cites that don't say what you pretend they do is similarly worthless. I always get a chuckle out of this sort of clueless whine-post though. You're complaining that I argue to the death while you...argue to the death. It's kind of like crying like a child about marshmallow insults after you just finished calling another poster retarded. Look at the mirror and grow up. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Army Guy Posted September 23, 2024 Report Posted September 23, 2024 On 9/22/2024 at 5:06 PM, Moonbox said: It said nothing about missiles whatsoever. Once again, you're just making up what you want your sources to say. Regardless, you're unironically citing the Kazakh Prime Minister proclaiming Russia's military as invincible, while it faceplants in Ukraine. 🤣 You haven't shown squat. Dumping dozens of useless/irrelevant news articles doesn't somehow re-organize reality and re-draw the maps for you. Even on the hottest part of the front, Russian progress is measured in meters per day. At no point over the last two years have they managed any sort of sustained progress beyond that, and what little there has been has been highly local. At Russia's current rates of advance, they'll complete their conquest of Ukraine in around 1000 years. That's the math, and it doesn't give a shit about your snowflake opinion. You complained I wasn't reading your longwinded rants. I told you why. If you're too lazy to organize your thoughts and write concisely, you're wasting nobody's time but your own. Barfing out cites that don't say what you pretend they do is similarly worthless. I always get a chuckle out of this sort of clueless whine-post though. You're complaining that I argue to the death while you...argue to the death. It's kind of like crying like a child about marshmallow insults after you just finished calling another poster retarded. Look at the mirror and grow up. You don't take Loosing very well.... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Moonbox Posted September 23, 2024 Report Posted September 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, Army Guy said: You don't take Loosing very well.... Like so much of the rest of your useless natter, insisting on something doesn't make it true. 🤡 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Army Guy Posted September 23, 2024 Report Posted September 23, 2024 2 minutes ago, Moonbox said: Like so much of the rest of your useless natter, insisting on something doesn't make it true. 🤡 You just can't help yourself, you feel the need to be right all the time, at first i thought it was the other posters,that you engaged but it is not it is just you....just man up and admit your wrong... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
CdnFox Posted September 23, 2024 Report Posted September 23, 2024 12 minutes ago, Army Guy said: You don't take Loosing very well.... LOL - yeah i'd noticed. Now he'll follow you around the forum and attack you at random for making him look bad. Don't worry, it doesn't take up a lot of time Quote
Moonbox Posted September 23, 2024 Report Posted September 23, 2024 33 minutes ago, Army Guy said: You just can't help yourself, you feel the need to be right all the time, at first i thought it was the other posters,that you engaged but it is not it is just you....just man up and admit your wrong... So...let's get this straight: You felt compelled to rehash a previous discussion in which at least three people laughed you out of the conversation, but I'm the one who just can't help myself. I need to admit that I'm wrong, because...you quoted the Kazakh Prime Minister? Or because you said so? 🙄 That's some funny shit man. 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Aristides Posted September 24, 2024 Report Posted September 24, 2024 On 9/16/2024 at 8:50 AM, blackbird said: "Allowed"? Do you think western missiles should be used to attack anywhere in Russia? That is how wars escalate and become world wars. Russia says it is a red line and they may choose to retaliate with an attack against NATO and with nuclear weapons. Do you think the west should take the risk of starting World War III which would end with a nuclear holocaust and possibly wipe out half or much of the world's population? Do you think Russia would absolutely not send nuclear missiles to European and north American cities? They have thousands of nuclear missiles. FFS, Russia has been bombing civilian targets in Ukrainian cities for a year and a half. Putin's nuclear threats are just bluster. The US, Britain and France have nuclear arsenals and the means to deliver them. 1 Quote
blackbird Posted September 24, 2024 Author Report Posted September 24, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Aristides said: FFS, Russia has been bombing civilian targets in Ukrainian cities for a year and a half. Putin's nuclear threats are just bluster. The US, Britain and France have nuclear arsenals and the means to deliver them. Not very bright to want to escalate into world war 3. It takes more intelligence to avoid a major war than it does to start one. Edited September 24, 2024 by blackbird Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted September 24, 2024 Report Posted September 24, 2024 On 9/13/2024 at 9:49 PM, blackbird said: Trudeau says Ukraine can strike deep into Russia with NATO arms, Putin hints at war (msn.com) It sounds like this could trigger World War III. Does Trudeau really know what he is talking about? How is he qualified to say Ukraine can do this without triggering a war between Russia and NATO (the west)? Putin has stated that is a red line. Of course sending long range missiles deep into Russia could have serious consequences for NATO, Europe, America, and Canada. Does Trudeau really understand this? How close are we to WWIII after Putin's latest threat to the West? (msn.com) If I had a time for every time Putin threatened "war" with NATO, I could but I Large Iced Capp from Tim Hortons. Putin should just shut up, since nobody takes him seriously. Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted September 24, 2024 Report Posted September 24, 2024 On 9/22/2024 at 3:06 PM, Moonbox said: It said nothing about missiles whatsoever. Once again, you're just making up what you want your sources to say. Regardless, you're unironically citing the Kazakh Prime Minister proclaiming Russia's military as invincible, while it faceplants in Ukraine. 🤣 You haven't shown squat. Dumping dozens of useless/irrelevant news articles doesn't somehow re-organize reality and re-draw the maps for you. Even on the hottest part of the front, Russian progress is measured in meters per day. At no point over the last two years have they managed any sort of sustained progress beyond that, and what little there has been has been highly local. At Russia's current rates of advance, they'll complete their conquest of Ukraine in around 1000 years. That's the math, and it doesn't give a shit about your snowflake opinion. You complained I wasn't reading your longwinded rants. I told you why. If you're too lazy to organize your thoughts and write concisely, you're wasting nobody's time but your own. Barfing out cites that don't say what you pretend they do is similarly worthless. I always get a chuckle out of this sort of clueless whine-post though. You're complaining that I argue to the death while you...argue to the death. It's kind of like crying like a child about marshmallow insults after you just finished calling another poster retarded. Look at the mirror and grow up. Army Guy is good at making things up. He once told a tale of liberating Poland from the Nazis, even though he would not be born until the late 60s. Quote
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