Young Canadians left jobless amid influx of cheap foreign workers

[Goddess]

4 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Just how preventable that was, makes it sad.

You sound like you have good defensive driving skills.  I feel like this is lacking in Canada, maybe due to our "wide, open spaces".

I noticed during my travelling years, in countries that had few lights, skinny, winding mountain roads with no guardrails, no speed limits, etc, that they seemed to be much more aware of what other drivers around them are doing.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

Yes, that could explain your opposition to Biblical Christianity.

It was forced on me. Am a rebel. You force me, I shun it.

My wife approached me the right way. Told me about it, allowed me to choose and I chose to try her church.

Loved it. She's a born again Christian.

They celebrated Jesus, and don't see it as mourning, they see it as a celebration.

I have yet to meet a born again Christian which are stubborn and see the world in a singular manner.

Every one I have met, were open minded. 

My wife and I get along because she's open minded. I have dated catholic Filipina women, and they are typically stubborn as a mule, and have that singular world view I struggle with.

I don't ever see myself going fully to worshipping God, but I have found myself enjoying church again, and who knows. But for me, it would need to be organic.

Shes just happy I am glad to support her.

[Legato]

18 minutes ago, Goddess said:

You sound like you have good defensive driving skills.  I feel like this is lacking in Canada, maybe due to our "wide, open spaces".

I noticed during my travelling years, in countries that had few lights, skinny, winding mountain roads with no guardrails, no speed limits, etc, that they seemed to be much more aware of what other drivers around them are doing.

Snake Pass one of my favorite English roads. Probably crossed it over 200 times.

https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/motoring/derbyshire-dangerous-snake-pass-road-8130436

[Goddess]

1 minute ago, Legato said:

Snake Pass one of my favorite English roads. Probably crossed it over 200 times.

https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/motoring/derbyshire-dangerous-snake-pass-road-8130436

That's cool. 😎

Mine is Waipio Valley in Hawaii (on the big island.)  You can only travel it if you have a 4X4.

Waipio Valley - This Hawaii Life

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

t was forced on me. Am a rebel. You force me, I shun it.

I am hardly forcing you.  You try to paint it that way because the Devil told you to.

A suggestion is not forcing anyone.  You can do your own thing, but I speak the truth which many modern day Christians do not do.  They are afraid of offending anyone and have been fed the nonsense that one should never say anything that might upset someone.  That is not the way Jesus spoke or the Apostles.  Many of them died as martyrs.  You should read Foxe's Book of Martyrs free on the internet.  See what happened to many people who spoke the truth.  

The truth is not welcome in today's world. 

Liberalism teaches that everyone can and should do their own thing even if it takes them to hell.

But you don't have to listen to me.  This just might be the last period in your life somebody actually is trying to help you.  But if you reject a lifeline, that's your choice.  Most people are like that in today's world.

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

My wife approached me the right way. Told me about it, allowed me to choose and I chose to try her church.

Loved it. She's a born again Christian.

Well, I am especially glad you are getting along with your wife.  That is not always the way it is today.  Half of marriages end in divorce.

I have had Catholic friends.  Many Catholics are amicable people and quite easy to get along with, which is a good thing.

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

They celebrated Jesus, and don't see it as mourning, they see it as a celebration.

I am not sure what you mean.  Bible-believing Christians do not mourn either.  Perhaps you meant some Catholic churches mourn.   I can understand that.  Their beliefs are contrary to the Bible and they have no assurance of salvation.  That is reason to mourn.

 

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

I have yet to meet a born again Christian which are stubborn and see the world in a singular manner.

Every one I have met, were open minded. 

 Not sure what you mean by open-minded and not sure what you mean by singular manner.  Don't let the world fool you.  There is only one way to heaven and that is by faith in Jesus Christ and his sacrifice.  If people are not telling you that, they are confused or not being truthful.  A real Christian will never win a popularity contest by telling you what the Bible teaches.  That is just a fact of life.  The Bible and biblical Christianity is not welcomed by the world.  If the world loves you, you are probably on the wrong path.  That is just a reality.

Edited August 26, 2024 by blackbird

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

My wife approached me the right way. Told me about it, allowed me to choose and I chose to try her church.

What exactly did she tell you?  What convinced you?

Of course it is absolutely essential to get along with your wife.  That is a high priority.  We are called to love our wives as ourselves.  I think that means one should not argue with a spouse about religion.

Edited August 26, 2024 by blackbird

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Goddess said:

You sound like you have good defensive driving skills.

Those skills should be the law.

Same reason why having at least one employee first aid trained is in a company's best interests.

You never know when you will need them. For the former however, it's guaranteed you will, but you at least will be prepared.

3 hours ago, Goddess said:

I feel like this is lacking in Canada, maybe due to our "wide, open spaces".

That, and the fact our standards are so high, we can really relax behind the wheel.

In a developing country, you have to be on edge at all times, as anyone will cut you off, and kids dart in the streets all the time, without looking.

I feel cyclists should be forced to do the same, but since there are no licenses, would be futile.

3 hours ago, Goddess said:

I noticed during my travelling years, in countries that had few lights, skinny, winding mountain roads with no guardrails, no speed limits, etc, that they seemed to be much more aware of what other drivers around them are doing.

People respect consequences. They are immediate in such countries.

The zig zag road near Baguio city is one of the craziest I have experienced:

That goes all the way up the mountain,  landslide prone and all. You're looking down thousands of feet towards the top, thinning air, and just sketchy hairpin turns and any mistake is your death.

You literally have a vehicle graveyard at the bottom.

Quite a few buses lost their brakes due to the steep hills you must constantly stop on, heading back down to Manila.

That keeps you humble and alert.

Kind of like low hanging electrical wires. This is the norm in developing countries. I'm much taller than the average Filipino.

No signs to be aware. You need to be aware. 

If you're not smart enough to figure that out, that society has a natural way to thin out the herd.

If you need to be told that the Pop Tart you're about to toast will be as hot as lava when you bite into it, just maybe there shouldn't be seatbelt warning on cars. The problem would solve itself.

Too dark?

[Guest]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

I am hardly forcing you. 

Am eluding to my parents. You can't really force a grown adult.

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

Half of marriages end in divorce.

I have a divorce on my record, so I know. Best decision I have ever made. 

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

What exactly did she tell you? 

She showed me a mass (on video). They were singing. A proper gospel church.

Just the energy, is infectious.

I told her if I hated it, I would never return. She was game. I have returned ever since.

They don't push anything onto me, just a respectful environment. 

 

[Dougie93]

10 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

If you need to be told that the Pop Tart you're about to toast will be as hot as lava when you bite into it, just maybe there shouldn't be seatbelt warning on cars. The problem would solve itself.

Too dark?

nobody ever wore seat belts when I was growing up

when I was a boy, everybody was drinking & driving, smoking reefer,  and beating their kids in the back seats

was that age less safe ?

I didn't notice it to be

frankly,  I never feared for anything in the 1970's, it was a golden age

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

nobody ever wore seat belts when I was growing up

I remember people smoking in malls in my childhood. 

Cigarette ads, everywhere.

Words like: "fresh", "smooth" and "clean" to describe the tar you were inhaling.

Tethering babies in a child seat just wasn't a thing.

Slides now are plastic.

Back then, you could get third degree burns on them, as they sat reflecting sunlight on their glossy metal finish.

It definitely felt more simple.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

It definitely felt more simple.

It was. Probably more profitable too. I delivered 80 to 100 newspapers up and down a couple of blocks when I was 11 - 13 growing up in Toronto. I raked some of my customers leaves and shovelled their snow too.

Being a dog walker never occurred to me. Seems like a natural for a little go getter though.

Do they even have paperboys anymore?

I was one of the original bicycle couriers down around King and Yonge St between Jarvis and York.

On one of these with a basket hanging off the handlebars. They don't make them like they used too.

 

[Guest]

12 hours ago, eyeball said:

They don't make them like they used too.

Yeah, seems like they employ the F O R D quality level of past cars (fix or repair daily).

[Dougie93]

16 hours ago, eyeball said:

I was one of the original bicycle couriers down around King and Yonge St between Jarvis and York.

Tommy Toast

Bread Spreads

Temperance St

1992

[Dougie93]

18 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Tethering babies in a child seat just wasn't a thing.

the widespread use of seat belts was actually incited by Robert Strange McNamara

because before he was Secretary of Defense for JFK & LBJ

Robert McNamara was the CEO of the Ford Motor Company

and as CEO he instituted the studies which concluded that not wearing a seat belt was exponentially reckless

in that you were exponentially less likely to die or be crippled in a car accident, if you simply wore a seat belt

it just took twenty five years for that idea to implant itself in the public consciousness

[Guest]

48 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

it just took twenty five years for that idea to implant itself in the public consciousness

Which is insane if you think about it, but one trip to a developing country sets you back understanding why change takes so much time.

[Dougie93]

5 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Which is insane if you think about it

particularly when considering that my parents were Beatnik/Hippie Left Wing Progressives

yet even they smoked tobacco and drove drunk & stoned back in the 1970's

although they never smoked tobacco in my presence as a child

like I didn't know that my father was addicted to tobacco, until I was a senior in high school

they didn't try to hide that they smoked weed, that I was aware of from a very young age

but they hid that they smoked tobacco from me at the same time

I can't remember exactly when it was that my father first told me to put my seat belt on

but it was in the mid 80s, during his second marriage

 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

1992

I was at it in 70 - 71.

[Dougie93]

20 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I was at it in 70 - 71.

Bicycle Messengers in Toronto dates back to 1880 with H.T. Bailey & Co,

in 1895,  Bicycle Messengers from rival Telegraph Companies in Toronto held a race against each other

at the turn of the century, the rival companies held Bike Messenger Championships, Rosedale vs Woodbine

Bicycle Messengers actually reached their peak in Toronto, in the 1920's through the 1930's

Bob McLeod, Toronto Bicycle Messenger Champion, 1933 ;

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

Bicycle Messengers in Toronto dates back to 1880 with H.T. Bailey & Co,

in 1895,  Bicycle Messengers from rival Telegraph Companies in Toronto held a race against each other

at the turn of the century, the rival companies held Bike Messenger Championships, Rosedale vs Woodbine

Bicycle Messengers actually reached their peak in Toronto, in the 1920's through the 1930's

Bob McLeod, Toronto Bicycle Messenger Champion, 1933 ;

he meant he was in it in 1871.  He's been saying that for decades. 

(i mean why not? Go big or go home)

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

Bicycle Messengers in Toronto dates back to 1880 with H.T. Bailey & Co,

in 1895,  Bicycle Messengers from rival Telegraph Companies in Toronto held a race against each other

at the turn of the century, the rival companies held Bike Messenger Championships, Rosedale vs Woodbine

Bicycle Messengers actually reached their peak in Toronto, in the 1920's through the 1930's

Bob McLeod, Toronto Bicycle Messenger Champion, 1933 ;

I did not know that. Cool.

[PIK]

On 8/26/2024 at 5:07 PM, Dougie93 said:

nobody ever wore seat belts when I was growing up

when I was a boy, everybody was drinking & driving, smoking reefer,  and beating their kids in the back seats

was that age less safe ?

I didn't notice it to be

frankly,  I never feared for anything in the 1970's, it was a golden age

Had fun in the 70's and 80's. Life was a party. Drinking and driving was socially acceptable. Everyone did it. Close the Ont bars at 1am, then a 15 minute drive to Quebec. Crazy times.

[ExFlyer]

Back on topic

The feds announced cutback of foreign temporary workers. 

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/canada-to-restrict-low-wage-foreign-workers-consider-lower-immigration-targets-1.7014058

So now our Canadian young people will have lots of strawberry, blueberry, asparagus, lettuce broccoli , apple, pear, cherry picking jobs.

Ya think??? I do not. This work is beneath them so the fruit and veggies will got in the fields and on the trees.

Oh, so pay them more you say? OK, then the price of all that will go up and you have something new to whine about LOL

Edited August 28, 2024 by ExFlyer