Young Canadians left jobless amid influx of cheap foreign workers

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47 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well.... no, that doesn't automatically follow.  Some will be children not of working age, some will be old and past working age, and many come with the funds to start a business and actually add to employment right away (that was a huge program in richmond bc in the late 90's - bring 500 grand and start a business and get pushed to the front of the immigration line). 

Have you seen the people coming to Canada in the past 3 years? They are dis-proportionally 18-40. I have not seen hardly any people over 50, or too many children. It's all people in the working prime of their lives. 

47 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Also their presence does create jobs, someone's got to provide goods and services to them. 

When we let in 2.5 million people, and only 900,000 jobs are created, that means that there is a net loss of 1.6 million people employed. Of all people, I thought you would be one of the people against this, since you are agreeing with Trudeau's BS.

Edited August 22, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, DUI_Offender said:

Have you seen the people coming to Canada in the past 3 years? They are dis-proportionally 18-40. I have not seen hardly any people over 50, or too many children. It's all people in the working prime of their lives. 

 

Sure, The majority are single working age.  But not all by any stretch. 

And many of those working age are coming here with money to start businesses.  Not the majority , but many. 

So the point remains, you can't simply take the number of people arriving and the jobless rate and do a one to one comparison. If an immigrant comes and starts a business employing 6 people he not only doesn't take up a job  he creates 6. And immigrants are more entrepreneurial than Canadians 

Immigrant entrepreneurship in Canada | BDC.ca

 

In a worsening economy as we have you're right in concept if not in math, i've already conceded that point. I'm just pointing out that you can't make a direct correlation as you did at all. 

 

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

 

When we let in 2.5 million people, and only 900,000 jobs are created, that means that there is a net loss of 1.6 million people employed. Of all people, I thought you would be one of the people against this, since you are agreeing with Trudeau's BS.

No, it doesn't. those 1.6 million jobs created also create secondary and tertiary jobs. There may still be a net loss but it's not as cut and dry as that. 

Buddy - i'm pointing out an error in your calculations but i'm still agreeing with your overall premise and have since the beginning.  Take the info and the win and be happy   

[ExFlyer]

12 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Again, you nee d to read what I wrote. I don't mean read things into it, but simply what I stated.

Again, you did not answer.

[ExFlyer]

12 hours ago, DUI_Offender said:

It's not the fault of immigrants. They only want a better life for themselves. It's the Government's fault, knowing full well that these new Canadians are used to working for pennies a day, and minimum wage is a dream come true, compared to their respective countries wages.

So not knowing anything about Canadian labour laws or rights, they work like slaves, work when sick, do not stick up for themselves, and are so grateful for their job that they would get a McDonald's tattoo on their back, if asked.

And left wing fools like @ExFlyer expect native Canadians to be able to compete with this? 

You start this off wisely and logically and then you lower yourself to insults again.

Bottom line, I will ask you again, what labour laws have been or are being broken. You cannot belch out stupid comments without proof, evidence or facts, which you repeatedly do.

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58 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

You start this off wisely and logically and then you lower yourself to insults again.

Bottom line, I will ask you again, what labour laws have been or are being broken. You cannot belch out stupid comments without proof, evidence or facts, which you repeatedly do.

Ive seen comments by 8 year old elementary school students that have a more mature tone.

Do better...

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

Ive seen comments by 8 year old elementary school students that have a more mature tone.

Do better...

Stop deflecting.

I will ask you again, what labour laws have been or are being broke

You keep on with this claim and yet, cannot provide answers to the the question.

You be mature and back up your accusations...if you can LOL

Edited August 22, 2024 by ExFlyer

[I am Groot]

17 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Other than serving Canadians. Providing to the community, charitable causes, as do many other businesses. 

Most my suppliers are Canadians, and many small businesses buy local. 

It's a service industry, and mostly for disposable income. That income will be spent on something else. If people want to eat, they'll find somewhere else. The supplies will be sold to another business. If prices have to rise and we have half as many fast-food restaurants, well, that's not something that's going to negatively impact the country. We will not be eating less food or spending less money because of it.

17 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

If the right skillset isn't available, then you source it from where it is.

It's not a skillset. It's an unskilled set. And you'll just have to find the people. They're here. They just prefer to work elsewhere. You'll have to make the job more attractive or find a technology to do it with fewer staff.

We have a standard of living in this country that would plummet if we simply agreed to import anyone from anywhere who agreed to do the job for lower wages.

 

 

[Goddess]

5 Years In Prison For A Truck Driver Who Killed Two Children (truckstopcanada.com)

Here's the video, horrifying

 

 

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4 hours ago, I am Groot said:

 

It's not a skillset. It's an unskilled set. And you'll just have to find the people. They're here. They just prefer to work elsewhere. You'll have to make the job more attractive or find a technology to do it with fewer staff.

We have a standard of living in this country that would plummet if we simply agreed to import anyone from anywhere who agreed to do the job for lower wages.

 

 

Excellent post. Could not ahve said it better, myself.

[Goddess]

On 8/20/2024 at 11:17 AM, Goddess said:

The first issue is that their nursing degrees do not always meet the requirements of N. American degrees.  There is often a high degree of "cultural" or "traditional" medicine that is not really scientific and can be downright harmful.  For this reason, I agree with programmes that test and examine them for competency and provide refresher-type courses before they work here.  I do not have a problem with foreign nurses working here, to be clear.

This is what I was talking about.  This guy is a menace to women.

 

Former patient testifies doctor told her future husband would regret it if she got tubes tied | CBC News

Professional misconduct accusation

Moodley is accused of professional misconduct and incompetence related to three complainants. The first testified earlier in the hearing that he performed a surgical procedure against her wishes during childbirth.

A second woman, who was also pregnant, alleged Moodley dismissed her labour pains as back spasms and ignored her requests for epidural pain medication, and testified staff at Cape Breton Regional Hospital failed to pay close enough attention, which may have led to health complications for her son.

The panel is hearing evidence about the complaints and is tasked with examining whether Moodley engaged in professional misconduct. Moodley is expected to testify in his own defence at a later date.

Moodley has previously been disciplined. In 2021, his licence was suspended for five months and he was ordered to pay $325,000 after two female patients said he made inappropriate sexual remarks to them.

 

Years ago, I had a friend who went through a c-section without anesthesia.  She told the doc she could feel everything and he just kept cutting.  She sued and got a sum of money.  In court, he admitted he did it because he didn't like women. Same ethnicity as this doctor.

[Guest]

18 hours ago, I am Groot said:

And you'll just have to find the people. 

I have. Many landed immigrants chomping at the bit to find good jobs. Tons of them.

I deal with several job agencies, and the amount of immigrants they are sending to employers like me, are way higher. 

Ukraine, India, Philippines, Africa. Tons of highly skilled and insanely motivated employees that want to start their lives in Canada.

Confused as to why I go from this, to a highly unmotivated work force regarding Canadian youth, not as an entire demographic but a good portion.

18 hours ago, I am Groot said:

We have a standard of living in this country that would plummet if we simply agreed to import anyone from anywhere who agreed to do the job for lower wages.

The standard for our business hasn't changed. In fact, its improved.

You make sure to train the employees to your standards. That they understand your mission statement and vision.

I hired someone from Kosovo, and they barely knew how to use some of our electronics. Uphill to train, but the positive attitude and energy and willingness to learn was second to none. I knew I could mould them into an allstar. 

My wife was an operations director at a hospital in the Philippines. 

She started here at a nursing home as a line cook. I got her hooked up.

Most Canadian staff she worked with, didn't give a s***. If only you knew how horrible even some of the best nursing home standards are, you would demand hiring the best and most motivated only.

She often saw dirty dishes post washing. She couldn't tolerate it, so requested for vinegar and baking soda to quickly clean off residues and complained to the management, as she saw this as an extension of her reputation. She refused to serve patients on subpar dishes.

She literally improved the standards of operation there, and people had to follow her lead. The CEO took notice, as was impressed by her leadership. She was highly motivated, as she was working for a cause much greater than herself, as are many immigrants. 

What you're describing is incompetence.

Hire a competent immigrant, and the effort you will get will not be matched by a Canadian youth.

Everything is on the line, for a newcomer. They need to find work, desperately. They have high hopes riding on their shoulders. Often will bring in their remaining family.

Again, you can't put anything statistically about how I would be better off as a business to hiring locals, vs immigrants.

Quiet quitting. Ghosting. These are foreign ideas to someone from a developing country. You work or you starve back home.

Both are growing problems among many others, with the younger generation.

I just don't see the benefit in hiring someone who doesn't truly want to work for me. 

You bring employers to their knees and they won't forget it. Many will pivot when given an exit ramp, once they have adjusted their standards to match the current youth. Why would I give a job to someone like this, when I could give one to someone who would genuinely appreciate the opportunity?

[Guest]

I just don't understand why some are surprised by the influx of immigrants, especially in places like retail or fast food.

Its self inflicted, for many in such settings.

I grew up with parents who believed just like Martin Luther King, that if you got a job--you best make sure you were the best at doing it, or strived to be the best.

Doesn't matter if it was scooping poop, taking an order or anything.

This is an extension of your reputation. Reflects poorly on you. Not only the business.

I mean, to look at a job like its beneath you, begs the question. Why don't you quit if the job is that bad? Why do a job so poorly? Activism? 

A bunch of spoiled slacktivists thought they could force an employer to pay double, by deliberately doing less.

Great..now they pay way more as do I, but don't want to hire you for the job. Can you blame them?

People who have been doing this--great. Now you have competition. 

Maybe karma isn't the operative word, but I go to any job intent on being one of the most valuable employees they can hire. That means, a willingness to do jobs that aren't necessarily mine. Showing flexibility. Adaptability. Eagerness to learn.

This isn't an immigration issue.

[PIK]

Sad that there so many white youth just wasting away. Prefer to play games and do drugs all day. No respect for anything, not even themselves. And the gender issues is ruining many lives .

Edited August 24, 2024 by PIK

[herbie]

Once, our jobs were redundant and the company was ordered by the Feds to keep us, find us anything at the same rate of pay or their rate increase was denied.
So I worked with a S African guy who refused to go into a boiler and clean it out because it was dirty and beneath him. I asked for permission to go home and get into shitty clothes.
He got canned. I worked 15 more years and eventually the same thing went on and I was offered the choice of a job I didn't like, back on the road all over the place or take $160K buyout.
Easy choice!

There are far too many non-immigrants who will not take those jobs they're complaining about.

Edited August 24, 2024 by herbie

[Guest]

On 8/21/2024 at 7:44 PM, I am Groot said:

Yeah, I would make that illegal. So would most Canadians. We don't want employers being able to bring in labour from outside Canada except in exceptional and limited circumstances.

I think that threshold was met post covid.

Many were quitting, based on the benefits being on CERB gave them.

So now, employers had to for some, provide less hours, to avoid a candidate from losing their benefits.

This decimated the restaurant industry, among several others, that were already reeling from the pandemic.

Now only could you not find people, but what you needed to offer to simply get one person, was becoming unaffordable for many.

I have seen everything from thousands for lasting for 3 months (bonus), to stock options to massive pay hikes. The latter was the norm.

Thats not an issue, as you can increase some of your costs to offset this.

But it was just the sheer volume of people ghosting during interviews. I thought it was just our business, until seeing it was now a thing.

There were way too many social safety nets available to incentivize many to actually bother working, until CERB coverage expired.

This, among other metrics created the demand.

Its not an immigrant issue. Its a government mismanagement issue.

[I am Groot]

On 8/23/2024 at 8:02 AM, Perspektiv said:

I have. Many landed immigrants chomping at the bit to find good jobs. Tons of them.

Yes, too many. The numbers need to be cut down massively.

 

On 8/23/2024 at 8:02 AM, Perspektiv said:

Hire a competent immigrant, and the effort you will get will not be matched by a Canadian youth.

Yeaaah, bullshit.

On 8/23/2024 at 8:02 AM, Perspektiv said:

Everything is on the line, for a newcomer. They need to find work, desperately. They have high hopes riding on their shoulders. Often will bring in their remaining family.

I have no doubt there are lots of good, eager-to-work immigrants. Never suggested otherwise. I said we do not want temporary foreign workers here, even if they call themselves students.

But there are also miserable, shitty foreign workers here, and immigrants, too, not to mention refugees (migrants) We don't screen properly so we get both good and terrible. Indians working in fast food? Forget it. Terrible hygiene. Chinese are even worse. Many also have quite different standards in relation to ripping off customers any chance they get. Fraud is skyrocketing.  And for all your praising of eager-to-work immigrants the public housing projects and prisons are full of them too.

 

On 8/23/2024 at 8:02 AM, Perspektiv said:

Again, you can't put anything statistically about how I would be better off as a business to hiring locals, vs immigrants.

I don't care if YOU would be better off. I care about whether CANADA would be better off.

 

On 8/23/2024 at 8:02 AM, Perspektiv said:

I just don't see the benefit in hiring someone who doesn't truly want to work for me. 

Nobody with intelligence really wants to work at a fast food place. It's a shitty, low paying job. It's something kids do to learn what working is like, and why they need to finish high school and go to college and improve their skills. So they never have to work at a place like that again.

And if we're bringing in actual immigrants who are eager and happy to work there then we're bringing in the wrong immigrants.

 

Edited August 24, 2024 by I am Groot

[Guest]

4 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Yes, too many. The numbers need to be cut down massively.

No disagreement here. But this is a government policy issue. Not an immigrant issue.

They are just taking what our government is giving them. If I rent you a spot for 899$ a month and don't realize my condo fees would put me out of pocket 400$ monthly. Didn't factor general maintenance, etc. Who is at fault here. You, or me?

You're essentially blaming the renter for renting lower than market value.

No different than the millions who took CERB, and the countless who abused of it, including some CRA employees.

4 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Yeaaah, bullshit.

You are free to believe what you wish, but I can clearly see the difference as an employer, as can many business owners that I know who have made the switch.

Filipinos to name one, are notorious for having 2-3 jobs or working 7 days a week.

Literally, a higher percentage of them, per Stat Can, than any other demographic. 

There is a simple reason for this. Many of these demographics earn less, forcing them to in order to earn a decent salary.

4 hours ago, I am Groot said:

I said we do not want temporary foreign workers here, even if they call themselves students.

If they are here legally, and are contributing to our economy I have no issues with them.

4 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Indians working in fast food? Forget it. Terrible hygiene. Chinese are even worse

Hire Filipinos. Thai people. Especially if they have a medical background back home. Their hygiene will be second to none. 

Also, Indian people will be highly hygienic, if they are highly educated. Bring in a lower caste Indian, and you'll be breathing in their armpit and testicle stank as you prepay your fuel top up.

4 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Many also have quite different standards in relation to ripping off customers any chance they get

Can't argue with you on that one. I wouldn't do business with an immigrant starting with: "ours is way cheaper".

I know someone who did just that, and got renovations for only two grand. All others were charging 10 or more.

Major issue. 1" gaps to his tiled floors. Pot lights not sitting flush. Silicone to bridge the gaps. 

You get what you paid for.

4 hours ago, I am Groot said:

And for all your praising of eager-to-work immigrants the public housing projects and prisons are full of them too.

We can't just bring anyone here. We need to have control of who comes here.

Again. This is a policy issue.

If you want to bring in 25 000 Syrians and Gazans displaced by war, that is quite noble.

But you need to have a plan.

Otherwise just like our experiment with Somalian refugees, you wind up getting a significant part of a demographic that struggles to acclimate, and disproportionately commits crime, lives in absolute poverty, etc.

Blaming India for this, is shortsighted.

Who in the actual f*** thought it was a good idea to bring in 25 000 people who had experienced massive trauma, may or may not have strong English or adequate skillsets, to somehow contribute to our country (one of the core purposes of immigration)?

4 hours ago, I am Groot said:

I care about whether CANADA would be better off.

If immigrants are brought in irresponsibly, that's an easy answer. If policies were competently put together, we have an easy answer.

If the volumes brought in, were in line with our capacities to accommodate them, again. You have an easy answer.

This isn't an immigrant issue.

You have a government that kickstarted the crisis, and to alleviate it, poured gasoline on the inferno.

4 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Nobody with intelligence really wants to work at a fast food place.

I disagree. You see the job. The company name.

I see the income. I could work two jobs, put money on the side, and build myself back up.

A job is a job. Begs the question, again. If the job is so beneath you, why apply to it? 

That very attitude (the entitlement), makes immigrant workers far more appealing to employers.

4 hours ago, I am Groot said:

And if we're bringing in actual immigrants who are eager and happy to work there then we're bringing in the wrong immigrants.

Its not about happiness. It's about finding a job that allows you to acclimate, build your resume, and grow yourself brick by brick in a new society. Having vision for your future. Taking evening classes. Volunteering your time in desired fields.

Slowly soaring. Not dragging your feet and sulking, like many canadian youth do, when things in life don't go their way.

I have spoken to countless immigrants who came here with nothing. Built large businesses brick by brick, working horrible jobs, while never losing sight of their vision. Many with generational wealth, and each subsequent one more successful than the last.

Its that self defeating spoiled attitude that gets me.

Things are hard. Pay is low? I will sulk and do a half job, and keep getting fired, vs do great, get recommendations and building my reputation.

I have more than paid my dues in menial factory jobs. Retail, etc.

Humbled myself, knowing I wouldn't spend my life in them. Builf myself brick by brick. Got so many references.

Humility goes a long way. The world doesn't owe you s***.

Main reason why so many employers have been soured on young Canadian workers.

[I am Groot]

50 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

No disagreement here. But this is a government policy issue. Not an immigrant issue.

You say that often but I don't think you mean what you say. I believe you mean that yes, it's an immigration issue, but not the fault of the immigrants. With which I agree. I am not blaming the immigrants or the foreign workers or even the foreign student-workers. I'm blaming the politicians. Always.

 

50 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

If they are here legally, and are contributing to our economy I have no issues with them.

I have no issues with 'them'. I have issues with the government letting them or encouraging them to come here. We already have too many people earning insufficient incomes to be taxpayers under our progressive tax system. The more low-skilled people we bring over the more people whose healthcare i have to pay for and whose children's education I have to pay for.

50 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

If the volumes brought in, were in line with our capacities to accommodate them, again. You have an easy answer.

They haven't been for a decade now. 

50 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

I disagree. You see the job. The company name.

I see the income. I could work two jobs, put money on the side, and build myself back up.

A job is a job. Begs the question, again. If the job is so beneath you, why apply to it? 

It's only beneath you if you have skills. And we should be bringing in people who have skills. Most of what's done in fast food restaurants is going to wind up becoming automated anyway. What do we do with these unskilled people then?

 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

What do we do with these unskilled people then?

First things first. There seems to be a misconception that a lot of these employees are unskilled.

Over half of the recent immigrants in Canada, have bachelor's degrees or higher, back home.

This dwarfs the percentage of their Canadian counterparts.

A minute percentage of these people work a job remotely close to what they trained for back home.

Meaning, the "lowly" immigrants serving you Timmies, likely dwarf your education level, or if you have a higher education level, likely match or exceed it.

I have worked with many immigrants, and the common denominator, is the level of overqualification (on paper) that they had for their jobs, quite often.

You may see an unskilled immigrant making your sandwich, but take the time to talk to some, and you may wind up surprised.

Think about it. Many had to spend tens of thousands of dollars to come to Canada. Thats not even factoring the flight. Of course, am eluding to those across the pond who immigrated. Refugees are another story.

I know people who were politicians back home, know that they would be cleaners in Canada.

Cab drivers in Canada, who were doctors or surgeons back home.

Ask an immigrant about their kids.

If they are from Asia, odds are insanely high that their kids are highly educated.

If 2nd generation, are successful. 

Asian? Higher likelihood that they are entrepreneurs and have created jobs.

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

It's only beneath you if you have skills.

Its only beneath you, if you are arrogant. Entitled.

There is no such thing as a job beneath me, if am unemployed and need to put food on my table.

Feeling jobs are beneath you, or that somehow one deserves to be paid what they feel they deserve is literally the attitude am eluding to that has had such workers fall out of fashion with employers.

[I am Groot]

15 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

First things first. There seems to be a misconception that a lot of these employees are unskilled.

Over half of the recent immigrants in Canada, have bachelor's degrees or higher, back home.

Yes, a well-known but pointless bit of information. Their 'degrees' assuming they actually have them and haven't simply claimed them from one of the many degree mills in the corrupt lands they come from are often without much value here since any job that requires a degree also requires a high level of communication skills which they lack (because we don't properly enforce language requirements) or technical knowledge they were never taught in their fourth and fifth rate schools.

 

15 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Meaning, the "lowly" immigrants serving you Timmies, likely dwarf your education level, or if you have a higher education level, likely match or exceed it.

Spare me. I've spent a good deal of time chatting with immigrants back in my younger, shitty-job days. Few of them have struck me as particularly impressive in terms of their sophistication. They often seemed prone to conspiracy theories, especially concerning Jews and Americans.

15 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

I know people who were politicians back home, know that they would be cleaners in Canada.

Well, given the level of corruption among politicians throughout the developing world I would wager they weren't very good at things else they'd have stayed there and gotten rich.

15 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Its only beneath you, if you are arrogant. Entitled.

There is no such thing as a job beneath me, if am unemployed and need to put food on my table.

Yeah, yeah, I've done plenty of shit jobs. And all of them were beneath me, tho I did them well. 

15 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Feeling jobs are beneath you, or that somehow one deserves to be paid what they feel they deserve is literally the attitude am eluding to that has had such workers fall out of fashion with employers.

Some jobs are beneath intelligent, capable people. I don't argue young people should start at the bottom and work their way up to the best of their abilities, but easy, repetitive jobs that don't challenge you are clearly beneath you.

[Guest]

9 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Few of them have struck me as particularly impressive in terms of their sophistication.

Am eluding to education, only. 

9 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Yes, a well-known but pointless bit of information

Not necessarily. The Philippines to name one, are a high exporter of high skilled workers, overseas. Nurses, PSWs, etc.

Their standards are quite high, which is why their employees are sought after.

India has some of the world's best doctors. Second only to the US. 

I could go on, with fields which are dominated by "5ft rate countries".

You may not see their education systems as worthy, but statistics don't really care about feelings.

Statistically speaking, many landed immigrants work well below their education and skill levels.

9 hours ago, I am Groot said:

weren't very good at things else they'd have stayed there and gotten rich.

Or just weren't corrupt. 

9 hours ago, I am Groot said:

tho I did them well. 

This is the point am making. If you see a job as so beneath you, you choose to do it poorly. How are you a victim if the said employer starts to seek people elsewhere, or stops making positions permanent to avoid the headache?

This is self inflicted. Good for you, that you aren't part of the problem, but its hard to ignore as is widespread.

9 hours ago, I am Groot said:

repetitive jobs that don't challenge you are clearly beneath you.

I don't understand how a job can be so beneath you you do it poorly on purpose.

I hated factory work, which is why I graduated college with honors. It was incredibly motivating.

I just don't understand the logic of doing a horrible job, losing my job or worse even--spending years building my skills, but having zero references to show for it.

In fact, I did my job so well, I would be promoted throughout every job I had, just about. Never had to ask for a raise. Every employer happily gave me references.

Confused how its the employers problem if I can't check my ego at the front entrance.

[Guest]

Its disturbing to me, that there is a growing demographic of people who seemingly feel they are owed higher paying work.

Earning their keep, is no longer needed. Its an entitlement.

They got raised with participation trophies, helicopter parents, and nowhere were they pushed to reflect or grow after setbacks. They didn't need to.

They feel entitled, just based on showing up. 

Well, employers got sick of people just showing up. They found people happy to perform the job, they are being paid for.

Also, I'm Haitian. Haitian Canadians have a bad reputation. 

I grew up in its shadow. The crimes, the welfare recipients. Plus, am male, so in dating, I was expected to cheat or beat a woman.

It felt like I had to live down those social expectations, every step of the way.

This isn't an immigration issue. Its a cultural issue. Same strings that had my peers tell me I was trying to be white, in shunning a self destructive lifestyle for books and education.

Somalian Canadians. I know plenty of successful Somali Canadians. Again, they get a bad rap for similar reasons. This is also cultural  but more importantly, why would a government bring in people at will in social experiments, without properly vetting that they could contribute to your economy?

I have seen so many homeless Syrians everywhere I have traveled to. This does happen in Canada. 

But this doesn't come remotely close to representing immigrants, which is in the millions in terms of totals, and hundreds of thousands in terms of annual admissions.

On paper, statistically, that sentiment just doesn't jive with the statistical reality.

Immirants come here to work, to support their families back home. Most of them do just that, and generationally become more educated as the generations go on.

Where there is agreement, is on the fact that we need to have a better grasp on who we let in, along with how many people that we let in.

I don't look at immigrants. I look squarely at my government.

[Guest]

On 8/22/2024 at 2:44 PM, Goddess said:

5 Years In Prison For A Truck Driver Who Killed Two Children (truckstopcanada.com)

Here's the video, horrifying

Almost had the same thing happen to me the other day. Someone ripping down the highway seemingly at highway speeds, oblivious I was coming down to a stop at an exit lane. 

He was barreling down so fast, I kept my brake lights on but gave myself a full two car lengths, and when it was clear they weren't slowing down, mashed the gas when was safe, and pulled onto the shoulder, only then, did they notice the imminent impact, and did a last second swerve, avoiding my rear bumper, but that near miss was fully due to the defensive maneuver he forced me to make.

My defensive driving course I took as a youth, has probably saved my life at least half a dozen times.

The fact he was texting in such a large vehicle at those speeds with tail lights clearly showing stopped cars, is a level of negligence that should have more prison time for him, and a massive lawsuit for whoever hired him.

Defensive driving should be a must, to have a driving license, and there should be insanely severe consequences for that level of negligence to clearly deter it.

Just how preventable that was, makes it sad.

[blackbird]

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Its disturbing to me, that there is a growing demographic of people who seemingly feel they are owed higher paying work.

Yes, there are a lot of people who feel entitled.  They should take courses, get educated and trained and take a different job or career if they want higher pay.

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Also, I'm Haitian. Haitian Canadians have a bad reputation. 

I grew up in its shadow. The crimes, the welfare recipients. Plus, am male, so in dating, I was expected to cheat or beat a woman.

Yes, that could explain your opposition to Biblical Christianity.   Haiti is not exactly a Judeo-Christian place.  It probably had a very negative influence on you.  But you still have time to learn the real Biblical truth, which is based in Jesus Christ and his written word.  You may be surprised how it could change your life and thinking and give you something very positive to live for.

You might consider watching some of the Let the Bible Speak video sermons at this website.  This is not political.  It is strictly Biblical.  Excellent preaching.

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