Deluge Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 Let's find out: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five of swords Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 1 hour ago, Deluge said: Let's find out: James Lindsay is a guy who is consistently wrong about everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 (edited) I thought this was something the video makers just made up, but i guess not apparently: https://eric.ed.gov/?id=EJ1287233 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1287233.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwinsPucvN-HAxXKjYkEHfORCCYQFnoECBkQAw&usg=AOvVaw1-980ABr6gGprjRmXOrXf8 Edited August 6 by Moonlight Graham Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 What is Critical Immigration Theory? It's an academic response to the rise of right-wing xenophobia. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted August 6 Author Report Share Posted August 6 9 hours ago, Five of swords said: James Lindsay is a guy who is consistently wrong about everything Point out where he's wrong in the video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five of swords Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 2 minutes ago, Deluge said: Point out where he's wrong in the video. I can't bring myself to watch his stupid videos. He's probably blaming gnostics, lol...an extinct and obsolete religious movement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted August 6 Author Report Share Posted August 6 (edited) 9 hours ago, eyeball said: What is Critical Immigration Theory? It's an academic response to the rise of right-wing xenophobia. Wrong. It's a ploy to erase the US borders. Biden/Harris has been trying to do it for four years and Harris will probably succeed if that communist b*tch gets into the WH in January. Edited August 6 by Deluge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five of swords Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 1 minute ago, Deluge said: Wrong. It's a ploy to erase the US borders. Biden/Harris has been trying to do it for four years and Harris will probably succeed if that communist b*tch gets into the WH in January. Obama deported more people than trump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted August 6 Author Report Share Posted August 6 2 minutes ago, Five of swords said: I can't bring myself to watch his stupid videos. He's probably blaming gnostics, lol...an extinct and obsolete religious movement He's bringing up facts. Don't be a ****. Watch the video and then we'll discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted August 6 Author Report Share Posted August 6 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Five of swords said: Obama deported more people than trump Which still wasn't near enough, and Hussein knew that. Trump will be singing a different tune this time around, thanks to Biden's open flood gates policy. Edited August 6 by Deluge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 10 hours ago, Five of swords said: James Lindsay is a guy who is consistently wrong about everything Really? Show me. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 9 hours ago, eyeball said: What is Critical Immigration Theory? It's an academic response to the rise of right-wing xenophobia. Xenophobia? Ahhh...the ol' Libbie race card. Guess that means you have no real argument and thus hide behind that tattered skirt you Libbies have abused for years now. Ya know...when a deep analysis of Democrat and Republican actions is done, its the Democrats who come out looking like authoritarian racists...not the Republicans. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted August 6 Author Report Share Posted August 6 (edited) 10 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: I thought this was something the video makers just made up, but i guess not apparently: https://eric.ed.gov/?id=EJ1287233 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1287233.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwinsPucvN-HAxXKjYkEHfORCCYQFnoECBkQAw&usg=AOvVaw1-980ABr6gGprjRmXOrXf8 William McCorkle and "ERIC" are both steaming piles of woke and need to go away. It's really quite simple: There's no such thing as xenophobia when you're protecting your borders: you either follow the immigration laws or you can't come in. If "migrants" can't (or refuse) to understand that then they're too dumb & communist to live here in the first place. Edited August 6 by Deluge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 22 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Xenophobia? Ahhh...the ol' Libbie race card. Guess that means you have no real argument and thus hide behind that tattered skirt you Libbies have abused for years now. Ya know...when a deep analysis of Democrat and Republican actions is done, its the Democrats who come out looking like authoritarian racists...not the Republicans. Nope, its not a race card at all. Its exactly what I said, an academic response. You people need to be studied so we can better understand your problems and develop ways to help treat them. Abstract With the current rise of xenophobia, particularly in the United States, critical border and migration theories need to be introduced in the classroom. Critical border and migration theories refer to a range of theories, that often go by differing names, which seek to problematize the modern nationalistic perspectives on borders and migration that center largely on the desire of the nation-state instead of the rights of migrants (Carens, 1987; Juss, 2004; Author 1, 2018a). It is also strongly correlated with the concept of open borders. This article provides a broad understanding of these critical theories from a philosophical, ethical, and economic perspective and the rationale for why these more abstract and universal ideas of migration and borders should be introduced in the classroom despite the controversy they can generate. This focus is of particular importance in an era where the rights of migrants are often limited or disregarded completely. https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1287233.pdf Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 56 minutes ago, Deluge said: Wrong. It's a ploy to erase the US borders. Again, its an academic response - a theoretical framework for understanding developments like this... The United States society has reached a tragic point in our understanding and relationship with borders and migration. An over attachment to “sovereign” borders and a hostility towards foreign migrants has helped lead to the rise of dangerous demagogues in our political process that puts not only immigrants, but the whole democratic system, in jeopardy. In the past, some of these anti-immigrant attitudes were disguised in the language of national defense or security. 1 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 8 minutes ago, eyeball said: Nope, its not a race card at all. Its exactly what I said, an academic response. You people need to be studied so we can better understand your problems and develop ways to help treat them. Abstract With the current rise of xenophobia, particularly in the United States, critical border and migration theories need to be introduced in the classroom. Critical border and migration theories refer to a range of theories, that often go by differing names, which seek to problematize the modern nationalistic perspectives on borders and migration that center largely on the desire of the nation-state instead of the rights of migrants (Carens, 1987; Juss, 2004; Author 1, 2018a). It is also strongly correlated with the concept of open borders. This article provides a broad understanding of these critical theories from a philosophical, ethical, and economic perspective and the rationale for why these more abstract and universal ideas of migration and borders should be introduced in the classroom despite the controversy they can generate. This focus is of particular importance in an era where the rights of migrants are often limited or disregarded completely. https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ1287233.pdf LOL..,.does the term "cold day in Hell" mean anything to you...Mr. race bater? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted August 6 Author Report Share Posted August 6 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Again, its an academic response - a theoretical framework for understanding developments like this... The United States society has reached a tragic point in our understanding and relationship with borders and migration. An over attachment to “sovereign” borders and a hostility towards foreign migrants has helped lead to the rise of dangerous demagogues in our political process that puts not only immigrants, but the whole democratic system, in jeopardy. In the past, some of these anti-immigrant attitudes were disguised in the language of national defense or security. It's a left-wing response, therefore it's bullshit. If we can't keep our borders secure then we can't keep our nation. Any non-flag burning degenerate understands this and embraces it. This is not the time, nor will it ever be, to put up with your feelings. We either keep the borders secure, or we get overrun - it's that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five of swords Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 12 minutes ago, Deluge said: He's bringing up facts. Don't be a ****. Watch the video and then we'll discuss. He's ommiting the most important aspects of critical theory which is fundamental to understanding it. He did mention 'it was floating around academia for some time' so he isn't easily proven wrong, but he is still allowing the audience to misunderstand that this is some sort of new thing. The truth is, critical theory dates to Adolf Hitler. It comes from the Frankfurt school which was a bunch of jews whose most salient belief was that liberalism is actually a better environment for jews than communism (something they were basically proven correct about when Stalin became an enemy of jews). The Frankfort school was of course kicked out of Germany and settled in Columbia University in the usa, which they dominated. Explicitly, 'critical theory' was designed to prevent the rise of another Hitler. And as the name suggests, it does so by being 'critical' of normative social norms, which they considered to be a product of the assumptions of old white (non Jewish) men. Being a post modern movement, they did not regard the 'white man' truth to be objectively better than the 'truth' of other people...and in consequence their focus was in social change rather than revealing any objective truth. And of course there was a general 'movement' to erase all boundaries...family, religion, nation, etc which had been around a long time..and indeed kicked into high gear with the Illuminati secret society...and it's presence was strongly felt in the French revolution, bolshevik revolution, American revolution, and the English Civil War, for example. Hitler was largely a resistance to that trend...and this is why Lindsay wants of omit these important pieces. Because he still wants to be on board with the idea that Hitler is evil...because he needs jewish support...because jews have the dominant power in the usa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted August 6 Author Report Share Posted August 6 3 minutes ago, Five of swords said: He's ommiting the most important aspects of critical theory which is fundamental to understanding it. He did mention 'it was floating around academia for some time' so he isn't easily proven wrong, but he is still allowing the audience to misunderstand that this is some sort of new thing. The truth is, critical theory dates to Adolf Hitler. It comes from the Frankfurt school which was a bunch of jews whose most salient belief was that liberalism is actually a better environment for jews than communism (something they were basically proven correct about when Stalin became an enemy of jews). The Frankfort school was of course kicked out of Germany and settled in Columbia University in the usa, which they dominated. Explicitly, 'critical theory' was designed to prevent the rise of another Hitler. And as the name suggests, it does so by being 'critical' of normative social norms, which they considered to be a product of the assumptions of old white (non Jewish) men. Being a post modern movement, they did not regard the 'white man' truth to be objectively better than the 'truth' of other people...and in consequence their focus was in social change rather than revealing any objective truth. And of course there was a general 'movement' to erase all boundaries...family, religion, nation, etc which had been around a long time..and indeed kicked into high gear with the Illuminati secret society...and it's presence was strongly felt in the French revolution, bolshevik revolution, American revolution, and the English Civil War, for example. Hitler was largely a resistance to that trend...and this is why Lindsay wants of omit these important pieces. Because he still wants to be on board with the idea that Hitler is evil...because he needs jewish support...because jews have the dominant power in the usa. Critical Immigration Theory has just one purpose: To soften the public's response to open borders. That's it. That's dead wrong, of course, so it needs to be stuffed back in the communist faces that are peddling it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 4 minutes ago, Deluge said: It's a left-wing response, therefore it's bullshit. It's certainly progressive but that's just the nature of reality. Progress is what human beings do. Get over it. Quote If we can't keep our borders secure then we can't keep our nation. Any non-flag burning degenerate understands this and embraces it. This is not the time, nor will it ever be, to put up with your feelings. We either keep the borders secure, or we get overrun - it's that simple. Well, this ship started sailing decades ago with trade liberalization and globalization. Remember back in the day when you people used to cheer this on and say things like This is not the time, nor will it ever be, to put up with your feelings to anyone who questioned the wisdom of barrelling headlong down the globalization road? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 25 minutes ago, eyeball said: Again, its an academic response - a theoretical framework for understanding developments like this... You should know that there's a populist framework also, to discredit and annihilate academic institutions and intellectualism in general. Some of the posters involved have declared their partisanship in a culture war, so this means war against knowledge they don't agree with. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted August 6 Author Report Share Posted August 6 10 minutes ago, eyeball said: 1. It's certainly progressive but that's just the nature of reality. Progress is what human beings do. Get over it. 2. Well, this ship started sailing decades ago with trade liberalization and globalization. Remember back in the day when you people used to cheer this on and say things like This is not the time, nor will it ever be, to put up with your feelings to anyone who questioned the wisdom of barrelling headlong down the globalization road? 1. Only your brand of progress is actually regressive so it needs to be put on ice. 2. Ships sail all the time. The key is to put OUR ship first, and leave it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five of swords Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 25 minutes ago, Deluge said: Critical Immigration Theory has just one purpose: To soften the public's response to open borders. That's it. That's dead wrong, of course, so it needs to be stuffed back in the communist faces that are peddling it. They aren't communists. In fact the irony is that many of the most devoted followers of this ideology are the leaders of major corporations...as of course they would be because it is good for business and keeps wages low 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluge Posted August 6 Author Report Share Posted August 6 Just now, Five of swords said: They aren't communists. In fact the irony is that many of the most devoted followers of this ideology are the leaders of major corporations...as of course they would be because it is good for business and keeps wages low They're more like global marxists, but it doesn't matter because they're wrong, regardless. It doesn't matter how you slice it up, Critical anything Theory needs to be relegated to marxist circles, and that's it; any deviation from those designated circles should be prosecuted immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five of swords Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 Just now, Deluge said: They're more like global marxists, but it doesn't matter because they're wrong, regardless. It doesn't matter how you slice it up, Critical anything Theory needs to be relegated to marxist circles, and that's it; any deviation from those designated circles should be prosecuted immediately. Well the Frankfort school was anti communist. Both Hitler and Stalin would have killed them. Face it. The elimination of nations does make the markets more 'free'. You are fed a lot of propaganda, including from James Lindsay, meant to confuse your friend enemy distinction. You cannot fight an enemy who is invisible. Anyway it is pointless to fight. The only shot your ideology had was ww2, and it lost. There is no going back now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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