What is Critical Immigration Theory?

[Black Dog]

13 hours ago, CdnFox said:

of course they had a choice. There's always another way period. 

Hitler had talked about the need to go to war for lebensraum since the day he got into power. Not that it was an original idea to the nazis, it had been around since ww1 and before. 

The documented plan was to occupy all those lands and throw out the sub humans to provide expansion space and resources for the german nation. 

It had zero to do with germans in danzig. There is a stack of documentation as high as a hitler salute that proves that written in their own words. 

"Sub humans" you say?

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

THey didn't invade because they didn't like the other guys, they did so because of the TENANTS OF LEBENSRAUM.  BECAUSE GERMANY NEEDED SPACE FOR IT"S SURVIVAL. 

Not because the other guys were inferior. 

 

 

[Deluge]

2 hours ago, Five of swords said:

Babel wasn't a real place

Sure it was.

Climate change is what's not real.  

[Black Dog]

18 hours ago, Five of swords said:

Germany had no control over what happened. Of course they were going to be attacked because their political model was so successful..so it was going to be interesting and persuasive to other people in the world. But it was based on ideas that would bring down the ruling elite in the entire western world, especially the anglosphere, as well as the new communist countries. They were not going to be left alone and Hitler knew that, which is why he felt forced to re-arm (despite the burden this had on his economy, especially with their shortage of oil).

Germany didn't make any mistakes in this department really. I suppose you could argue they might have opted to be a failed state and thus avoid war, but the consequences would have been no different.

lol the Nazis weren't successful even before their geeked-out speed freak syphilitic leader started a war they were always going to lose. Their entire economic model was built on unsustainable military spending because starting a war was their entire raison d'etre.

Anyway if you're sad the Nazis lost you can always take your cue from Hitler in the fuhrerbunker. 

Edited August 7 by Black Dog

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

1. Sorry, pal. The "Let's cap it off at 3,000 per day" isn't going to cut it. We're not interested in that bullshit. The goal is ZERO, not 3,000. 

You're dreaming. There'll be that many in refugees before long. Expect a billion and a half human beings on the move around the planet due to climate change alone over the next couple of decades.  And probably double that due to people fleeing dictatorships and conflict.

You'll need a conflicted bloody dictatorship to stem that tide.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Five of swords said:

You are, as always, severely retarded. Ukraine is not poland.

Nobody said it was. I said that hilter could have avoided war if he wanted to by not invading poland.  You said he HAD TO (no choice! snif!)  because 'the germans in danzig!!!!"   I pointed out that had nothing to do with the invasion of poland, hitler's plans and intent to expand were well documented, he had no intention of staying inside germany's borders. 

Nobody mentioned ukraine. 

Sigh.  It's like discussing advanced physics with a cocker spaniel. 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Five of swords said:

Well it would be more appropriate to mention, say, the British empire. Or Rome in its heyday. Stuff like that. Functional civilizations. What destroyed both of then seems to be the same thing, also. Which is also what ruined the mythical city of babel.

In the story it was God who fu cked with the people Babel. The problems we face are global - inequality, dictators and environmentally unsustainable levels of resource use and growth.  What's going to destroy us is our unwillingness to cooperate to solve them - an unwillingness that's deeply rooted and nurtured by misinformation, disinformation and an aversion towards discussing things using established facts and common sets of definitions and terms for expressing them.

Hence why I said least the people of Babel tried to cooperate.

Britain and Rome don't have anything to do with it.

[Deluge]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

You're dreaming. There'll be that many in refugees before long. Expect a billion and a half human beings on the move around the planet due to climate change alone over the next couple of decades.  And probably double that due to people fleeing dictatorships and conflict.

You'll need a conflicted bloody dictatorship to stem that tide.

You're full of shit. There is no climate change; there's just climate scare, and Biden has been feeding the frenzy by rolling out the welcome mat. That shit will stop in '25. 

The goal is ZERO, not 3,000. Deportations for all illegals in 2025, and if it gets bloody then so be it.

It's sovereignty first in ALL situations. 

[eyeball]

16 minutes ago, Deluge said:

There is no climate change...

Sure it's just invented...an insidious lie...besides the climate changes all the time.

🤣

[Five of swords]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Nobody said it was. I said that hilter could have avoided war if he wanted to by not invading poland.  You said he HAD TO (no choice! snif!)  because 'the germans in danzig!!!!"   I pointed out that had nothing to do with the invasion of poland, hitler's plans and intent to expand were well documented, he had no intention of staying inside germany's borders. 

Nobody mentioned ukraine. 

Sigh.  It's like discussing advanced physics with a cocker spaniel. 

We can just do an infinite loop here if you want. I repeated, Hitler did not want war with poland and did everything to find a peaceful solution (as he did with Austria and sudenteland). But poland insisted on keeping danzig (violating postwar agreements).

 

The eastern plan you mentioned had nothing to do with poland. It was Ukraine. Because millions of germans starved in the blockade at the end of ww1, and Hitler did not want germans to be vulnerable to blockades. He wanted to colonize Ukraine because it has oil and farmland in abundance. Which poland does not have. So he had no interest in annexing poland. You are just trying to conflate different things in your head. Yes the invasion of poland had everything to do with danzig...but only people with over 60 iq can understand such things

 

[Black Dog]

4 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

We can just do an infinite loop here if you want. I repeated, Hitler did not want war with poland and did everything to find a peaceful solution (as he did with Austria and sudenteland). But poland insisted on keeping danzig (violating postwar agreements)

[Deluge]

25 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Sure it's just invented...an insidious lie...besides the climate changes all the time.

🤣

At least you understand just how stupid that cause is. 

Well done, eyeballs.  

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, Deluge said:

At least you understand just how stupid that cause is.

Its hopeless not stupid.

Temperature and emissions are up, action is down...good job. You should be as tickled pink as you are proud but you're still whining, its weird. 

[CdnFox]

38 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

We can just do an infinite loop here if you want. I repeated, Hitler did not want war with poland and did everything to find a peaceful solution

 

But that is a lie. You are quite corrcect, you can continue to repeat a lie as often as you like and nobody can stop you, 

But the documentation is overwhelming that it's a lie.  

If you want to live a lie  you're welcome to i guess. 

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The eastern plan you mentioned had nothing to do with poland.

Well first off yes it did actually, that was the stepping stone, but more importantly it shows clearly that hitler intended to expand and make war on his neighbours for lebensraum, NOT because of denzig. 

Hitler wanted to make war on poland. It was his intention from the get go. He wanted to contine to expand militarily after that.  He never wanted peace at all, his  entire belief was that it's the duty to expand the country by military conquest.  This is not a 'maybe', everything he wrote, his speeches, his actions all support that entirely. 

But sure - continue to lie about it if it makes you feel better. 

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[Deluge]

27 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Its hopeless not stupid.

Temperature and emissions are up, action is down...good job. You should be as tickled pink as you are proud but you're still whining, its weird. 

Climate scare always pisses good people off. You moonbats have been a scourge ever since your first wet diaper. 

[Five of swords]

9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But that is a lie. You are quite corrcect, you can continue to repeat a lie as often as you like and nobody can stop you, 

But the documentation is overwhelming that it's a lie.  

If you want to live a lie  you're welcome to i guess. 

Well first off yes it did actually, that was the stepping stone, but more importantly it shows clearly that hitler intended to expand and make war on his neighbours for lebensraum, NOT because of denzig. 

Hitler wanted to make war on poland. It was his intention from the get go. He wanted to contine to expand militarily after that.  He never wanted peace at all, his  entire belief was that it's the duty to expand the country by military conquest.  This is not a 'maybe', everything he wrote, his speeches, his actions all support that entirely. 

But sure - continue to lie about it if it makes you feel better. 

But all the facts contradict your claim. If Hitler wanted to make war with poland he would not have delayed the invasion for 2 weeks in a last bid for peace, lol. Just makes no sense. He was indeed always going to attack the ussr which is why he just did it without bothering with diplomacy. Hitler had nothing against poland and he had no interest I depriving polish people of their homeland. And it had no resource value for him. Just because somebody wants to invade one country does not imply they want to invade every country. That is just stupid.

[eyeball]

4 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Climate scare always pisses good people off. You moonbats have been a scourge ever since your first wet diaper. 

It takes real vigilance to keep us down does it?  You know what they say, rust never sleeps.

Keep up the good work.

[CdnFox]

35 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Its hopeless not stupid.

Temperature and emissions are up, action is down...good job. You should be as tickled pink as you are proud but you're still whining, its weird. 

Good job? Are you congratulating yourself and the left?  You're the ones at fault for that. You've had 10 years of pretty much unrestricted freedom to do whatever you wanted on climate change and this is the result. 

That's WHY action is down - people realize even your side doesn't really care about it. 

And we're 'whining' because you spent a fortunate on it and trashed the economy and STILL didn't get anything done.  Now temps are still going up AND we've got a trashed economy.  But despite the fact this is 100 percent your sides's doing you want to make it our fault.  

pathetic. 

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It takes real vigilance to keep us down does it?  You know what they say, rust never sleeps.

Keep up the good work.

We didn't keep you down. You've had free reign for 10 years. 

You blew it.  

[Black Dog]

7 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

But all the facts contradict your claim. If Hitler wanted to make war with poland he would not have delayed the invasion for 2 weeks in a last bid for peace, lol. Just makes no sense. He was indeed always going to attack the ussr which is why he just did it without bothering with diplomacy. Hitler had nothing against poland and he had no interest I depriving polish people of their homeland. And it had no resource value for him. Just because somebody wants to invade one country does not imply they want to invade every country. That is just stupid.

"Our strength consists in our speed and in our brutality. Genghis Khan led millions of women and children to slaughter – with premeditation and a happy heart. History sees in him solely the founder of a state. It's a matter of indifference to me what a weak western European civilisation will say about me. I have issued the command – and I'll have anybody who utters but one word of criticism executed by a firing squad – that our war aim does not consist in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction of the enemy. Accordingly, I have placed my death-head formation in readiness – for the present only in the East – with orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space which we need. Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?"- Adolph Hitler, 22 August 1939.

 

 

[Five of swords]

1 minute ago, Black Dog said:

"Our strength consists in our speed and in our brutality. Genghis Khan led millions of women and children to slaughter – with premeditation and a happy heart. History sees in him solely the founder of a state. It's a matter of indifference to me what a weak western European civilisation will say about me. I have issued the command – and I'll have anybody who utters but one word of criticism executed by a firing squad – that our war aim does not consist in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction of the enemy. Accordingly, I have placed my death-head formation in readiness – for the present only in the East – with orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space which we need. Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?"- Adolph Hitler, 22 August 1939.

 

 

This quote is not from Hitler lol...you are just lying

 

This quote is from kaiser Wilhelm on sending soldiers to assist the British empire in putting down thr Chinese boxer rebellion.

Edited August 7 by Five of swords

[Black Dog]

8 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

This quote is not from Hitler lol...you are just lying

Wait, you don't even know what your own leader stood for? I knew fascists were dumb, but this is a new one.

https://origin-rh.web.fordham.edu/Halsall/mod/hitler-obersalzberg.asp
 

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This quote is from kaiser Wilhelm on sending soldiers to assist the British empire in putting down thr Chinese boxer rebellion.

Oh wow are you telling me Kaiser Wilhem predicted the Armenian genocide 15 years before it happened? lmao

Edited August 7 by Black Dog

[Five of swords]

10 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Wait, you don't even know what your own leader stood for? I knew fascists were dumb, but this is a new one.

https://origin-rh.web.fordham.edu/Halsall/mod/hitler-obersalzberg.asp

 

 

This source is totally unbelievable lol. Now I happen to agree that the molotov ribbentrop pact was just a delay so Germany did not have to fight a 2 front war. I know stalin had exactly the same motive...i.e. he wanted western powers to bleed eachother before he had to deal with them, just as he was doing on the eastern fron between japan and china. But there is no way he would just announce this to the public in 1939. That makes no sense. Think for a moment how grand and unrealistic a project it would be to also 'depopulate' all of poland and replace them with germans. This k of how much of a diplomatic nightmare it would be to publish such a plan. For sure he did have a similar sort of plan with Ukraine, but it would span multiple generations...and he did not publish that plan...which is why Bandera was under the impression that Hitler might support his cause. So no...this speeches written just seems like fraudand post war propaganda...especially for the soviet side...just like how they had the Canon belief of the '11 million' dead in thr holocaust.

[Black Dog]

3 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

This source is totally unbelievable lol.

But a few minutes ago you were saying the words were real but it was Kaiser Wilhelm. it's almost as if you're making shit up as you go.

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But there is no way he would just announce this to the public in 1939. That makes no sense. Think for a moment how grand and unrealistic a project it would be to also 'depopulate' all of poland and replace them with germans. This k of how much of a diplomatic nightmare it would be to publish such a plan. 

It wasn't a public statement you dummy, it was a speech to his Wehrmacht commanders.

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So no...this speeches written just seems like fraudand post war propaganda...especially for the soviet side...just like how they had the Canon belief of the '11 million' dead in thr holocaust.

"Post war propaganda" that was published in 1942. You keep winning.

[Five of swords]

4 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

But a few minutes ago you were saying the words were real but it was Kaiser Wilhelm. it's almost as if you're making shit up as you go.

It wasn't a public statement you dummy, it was a speech to his Wehrmacht commanders.

"Post war propaganda" that was published in 1942. You keep winning.

The part you quoted sounded a lot like a speech Wilhelm gave except he was telling the germans to be like the huns rather than the mongolians.Mongolians.

 

So it had to not be public enough so that the soviets could just make it up without being corrected. Okay. Because if you look at other things Hitler said both publicly and to his upper command, it just doesn't fit. 

Edited August 7 by Five of swords

[Black Dog]

Just now, Five of swords said:

The part you quoted sounded a lot like a speech Wilhelm gave except he was telling the germans to be like the huns rather than the mongolians.

I gave you a link and everything dummy.

[Deluge]

56 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It takes real vigilance to keep us down does it?  You know what they say, rust never sleeps.

Keep up the good work.

You bet your ass.

Climate scare, fetus slaughter, redistribution etc. are all products of your ldiotic mindset. It's time to throw all of it on the shit pile and watch it burn.  

Edited August 7 by Deluge