The Democrats newest conspiracy theory: Trump faked his own assassination

[ironstone]

5 hours ago, Hodad said:

You're lying. That is, quite literally and explicitly, a conversation about protests, not riots. 

 

Harris also explicitly condemned violent riots.

Harris, a U.S. senator who previously served as California's attorney general, said she supported peaceful protesters.
"We should not confuse them with those looting and committing acts of violence, including the shooter who was arrested for murder. And make no mistake, we will not let these vigilantes and extremists derail the path to justice,"

 

Fox "news" and meme culture are not a substitute for reality.

The Minnesota Freedom Fund.

Court records show that the Harris-endorsed MFF was used to bail out violent criminals, including Shawn Michael Tillman of St. Paul, who was sentenced to life in prison this March for first- and second-degree murder. George Howard, another man that the MFF freed, pleaded guilty in 2023 to second-degree murder for shooting and killing another man in 2021 in Minneapolis.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kamala-harris-backed-bail-fund-that-freed-violent-criminals-back-in-spotlight/ar-BB1qqZoK

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

 "You had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. ... I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name. ... So you know what, it's fine. You're changing history. You're changing culture. And you had people — and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally — but you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. OK? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people. But you also had troublemakers, and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats. You had a lot of bad people in the other group." 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/10/02/trump-and-white-supremacy-he-did-condemn-and-has-repeatedly-column/5883336002/

Don't confuse @Black Dog with facts like that!!!!!

They were ALL nazi's! Every single one!!  Including that squirrel in the tree!! He checked their id's personally to be sure!!  ALL PEOPLE HE DISLIKES ARE NAZI SO THEY MUST BE!!!!!"

lol. This is the thing. What trump said was absolutely true. There were bad people on both sides.  But there were good people on both sides.  and a GOOD president would reach out to both and see if there's a way to calm the waters. 

[Legato]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

 

 

Probably one of them semi auto bows.  Semi auto bows should be banned.  WHEN ARE PEOPLE GOING TO THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?!?!!?

with two red dots, One for the front eye and one for the eye at the back.

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, Legato said:

with two red dots, One for the front eye and one for the eye at the back.

A DOUBLE DOT REPEATING BOW!!!!  There's no reason any civilian should have that.  Did it have the shoulder thingie that goes up? (lol - most won't get that reference)

[CdnFox]

10 minutes ago, Legato said:

with two red dots, One for the front eye and one for the eye at the back.

OH MY GOD IT"S REAL!

 

[Hodad]

5 hours ago, ironstone said:

The Minnesota Freedom Fund.

Court records show that the Harris-endorsed MFF was used to bail out violent criminals, including Shawn Michael Tillman of St. Paul, who was sentenced to life in prison this March for first- and second-degree murder. George Howard, another man that the MFF freed, pleaded guilty in 2023 to second-degree murder for shooting and killing another man in 2021 in Minneapolis.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kamala-harris-backed-bail-fund-that-freed-violent-criminals-back-in-spotlight/ar-BB1qqZoK

Though you were not honorable enough to admit it, I will take this as a concession that your claim that Harris supported riots was a falsehood. 

Opposition to the cash bail system is an entirely different conversation. Indeed, we should not have a cash bail system. There is no justice in it. It nakedly embraces a two tiered justice system with one path for the wealthy and another for the poor. Money should not be the deciding factor in who remains in jail or who goes free while awaiting trial. As a prosecutor, Harris had a front-row seat to that injustice, and I applaud her for taking a stand on it.

Do you think that a person's financial status should determine whether an accused person should sit in jail or not? Does that seem sensible or fair to you?

 

 

[ironstone]

5 hours ago, Hodad said:

Though you were not honorable enough to admit it, I will take this as a concession that your claim that Harris supported riots was a falsehood. 

Opposition to the cash bail system is an entirely different conversation. Indeed, we should not have a cash bail system. There is no justice in it. It nakedly embraces a two tiered justice system with one path for the wealthy and another for the poor. Money should not be the deciding factor in who remains in jail or who goes free while awaiting trial. As a prosecutor, Harris had a front-row seat to that injustice, and I applaud her for taking a stand on it.

Do you think that a person's financial status should determine whether an accused person should sit in jail or not? Does that seem sensible or fair to you?

 

 

If she says she condemns violence, why did she take action to bail out protesters which included some who were acting violently?

As for bail issues, it's a fair point to talk about the accused's financial status. It's also fair to bring up the bail reforms tried in some Democrat states where violent offenders are back on the street in no time. There are instances where some people should be held without bail because they are such a high risk.

https://nypost.com/2021/12/03/new-york-cashless-bail-follows-with-multiple-injuries-deaths/

We knew the media would tout Harris as the tough as nails prosecutor, but her record on crime is all over the place. 

[Black Dog]

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

LOL - kid it's not my fault you were wrong.  You know who were the nazis' there? The nazis.  Know who wasn't the nazis there? The people who werne't nazis. 

Do you have any evidence there was anyone at the rally who wasn't part of one of the carious fascist/NeoNazi outfits that organized and attended this event. An interview, anything at all?

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You've admitted there were many groups there.  You've already admitted you were wrong. And with both know it. Trying to pretend NOT-nazi somehow means Nazi is just dumb

No pretending there's a meaningful distinction between alt-right, Klansmen, white nationalists and neo Nazis is dumb. 

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Nope. How are they close? About the only thing they share is that they're racists, but the KKK doesn't currently believe in a state controlled market, or the harnessing of the industrial might of the nation for the purposes of expansion by war as a primary duty the way the nazis did, they have RADICALLY different policies.  Hell even the KKK and white nationalists do - the white nationalists don't even think that other races are that bad, they just believe strongly in segregation and most wouldn't support slavery in the slighest. And racism isn't even a part of alt-right thinking. they just don't want MORE rights given to groups like gays and trans.  Most are fine with cohabiting with them. 

These are differences of degree, not kind. They're all racist fascist scum. but we know you think they're actually good people.

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Complete swing and a miss on your part kiddo. THat's why we have different names for them. 

lmao you're still pretending the Confederates and Klan were "socialists/leftists" you don't get to pretend to care about definitions now.

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Is that a picture of everyone who was there? No?  Hmmmm

I tell you what - you give me a list of all the people there and explain YOUR proof that they  are a card carrying nazi and then we'll go from there. 

 

F*ck you, you're the one claiming that MOST OF THE PEOPLE at the Nazis rally weren't nazis, YOU prove it.

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What kind of snit-for-brains !diot calls someone out for not providing evidnece when they haven't provided any evidence   LOLOLOL

LOLLOLOL I've  pointed out that the rally was put on by Nazis attended by hundreds of different Nazis and Nazi-adjacent group so I think the assumption that the attendees were mostly Nazis is sound until proven otherwise.

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Actually you didn't.  And when we were talking about the democrats i thought you were talking about the democrats - not the states themselves. Bit of a difference.  I've said from the begining of this that the dems were on the left back then.  

LOLOL  -  did you confuse yourself again? Well that happens when you have to change your story that often.  

I literally asked about the CSA, and you responded directly, not my fault you're stupid and don't know what that means!

Also funny to claim someone else is confused right after you admit you weren't following the flow of the discussion. Skill issue.

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Completely accurate, See above   The fact that it hurts "Ur Feels" dosesn't change that. 

All your insistence on this does is show you don't understand what socialism is or know anything about the history. I would have thought you'd know after i took you to the woodshed in the other thread, but alas, you seem to get off on public humiliation.

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Uh huh. Can you point out where i said "Most"?

You said ALL - i said not all.  Not "Most" 

 

This is what you said:

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The people at the demonstration we are discussing we're not all Nazis. In fact the majority of them probably weren't Nazis. 

Now i know you're probably going to pretend like there's a meaningful difference between Klansmen and neo Nazis or that unless someone is a card-carrying member of the NSDAP from the '30s you can't call them Nazis or something retarded like that, but no normal person actually cares about the distinctions between the various groups of racist fascist scumbags who were there and certainly no one would call any of them "very fine people" except you and fatass Trump.

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But hey - thanks for taking the opportunity to show everyone yet again that you have to lie to make your point you probably dont' have a very good point  

 

Do you think this means anything coming from someone who is demonstrably lying in this very thread?

[Black Dog]

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Pretty sure i did - are you saying you just brought up the kkk and the states themselves randomly out of the blue? Well - odd to admit to being THAT stupid but if you like  Anyway the KKK was the 'muscle' arm of the dems and i normally do mention them, they're just a part of the dem party. 

Again, the exchange where the KK is brought up is up thread in black and white, screenshot and everything. We've established you're easily confused though, happens a lot to people whose mom drank lead paint when pregnant.

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Laughing at you isn't a tantrum  

You're claiming (again) that something i didn't say that YOU said is somehow MY fault and that therefore  I said it even tho it was you who said it. 

That's how twised your brain is.

LOL, speaking of brains, it's amazing yours is wired in such a way that you think me simply pointing out a factual error in your posts is "blaming you" for something. You are so desperate to be a victim at all times, aren't you?

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And i didn't.  I said the democrats were socialist and agree the kkk is (thought i said that, you now claim i didn't but i would have). 

Sooooo.  Strange that you'd point out you're a loser but... 

Again it's right there in black and white, you're straight up denying reality at this point. And we all can see you're drowning because the emojis are out.

Edited July 26, 2024 by Black Dog

[Black Dog]

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Don't confuse @Black Dog with facts like that!!!!!

They were ALL nazi's! Every single one!!  Including that squirrel in the tree!! He checked their id's personally to be sure!!  ALL PEOPLE HE DISLIKES ARE NAZI SO THEY MUST BE!!!!!"

But Trump only mentioned the Nazis and white nationalists, he didn't say anything about the Klan, the militias, the Traditionalist Worker Party, the alt-right people. Given that you think  the distinctions between these groups are so vast and so important it stands to reason that by failing to mention those other groups by name, he considers them fine people.

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lol. This is the thing. What trump said was absolutely true. There were bad people on both sides.  But there were good people on both sides.  and a GOOD president would reach out to both and see if there's a way to calm the waters. 

Where? Who?

[CdnFox]

52 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Do you have any evidence there was anyone at the rally who wasn't part of one of the carious fascist/NeoNazi outfits that organized and attended this event. An interview, anything at all?

No pretending there's a meaningful distinction between alt-right, Klansmen, white nationalists and neo Nazis is dumb. 

These are differences of degree, not kind. They're all racist fascist scum. but we know you think they're actually good people.

lmao you're still pretending the Confederates and Klan were "socialists/leftists" you don't get to pretend to care about definitions now.

F*ck you, you're the one claiming that MOST OF THE PEOPLE at the Nazis rally weren't nazis, YOU prove it.

LOLLOLOL I've  pointed out that the rally was put on by Nazis attended by hundreds of different Nazis and Nazi-adjacent group so I think the assumption that the attendees were mostly Nazis is sound until proven otherwise.

I literally asked about the CSA, and you responded directly, not my fault you're stupid and don't know what that means!

Also funny to claim someone else is confused right after you admit you weren't following the flow of the discussion. Skill issue.

All your insistence on this does is show you don't understand what socialism is or know anything about the history. I would have thought you'd know after i took you to the woodshed in the other thread, but alas, you seem to get off on public humiliation.

This is what you said:

Now i know you're probably going to pretend like there's a meaningful difference between Klansmen and neo Nazis or that unless someone is a card-carrying member of the NSDAP from the '30s you can't call them Nazis or something retarded like that, but no normal person actually cares about the distinctions between the various groups of racist fascist scumbags who were there and certainly no one would call any of them "very fine people" except you and fatass Trump.

Do you think this means anything coming from someone who is demonstrably lying in this very thread?

Holy - triggered leftie is triggered :)

The burden would be on you to prove that every single one of them was a Nazi if you want to make the claim that they're all Nazis. I have proof that many of the groups there were not Nazis but rather other groups. That's already been established. So you would have to be the one to prove that as well as being part of another group they were also Nazis as well.

And you can't because they weren't. 

 There is a huge difference between the Nazi party and the Klu Klux Klan. There is a massive difference between those two and the alleged alt-right.

Sorry kiddo, repeating a lie doesn't make it true.

And the rally wasn't put on by Nazis. As we have already noted there were many groups there not just Nazis

I never once anywhere ever said that "most" of the people weren't nazis.  I said not all were nazis. 

 

And I guess we can pretty much stop there. You're just repeating the same lies over and over,

Virtually everything you say has to be a lie because you know the truth doesn't support your position. Any sane person knows that the alt right is not the same as Nazi. It's very clear I have never said "most" of the people weren't nazis, just that they weren't ALL nazis. 

And so on and so forth.

You're not much better than that five of swords guy who's been kicking around lately. You are presented with very obvious and clear truths and you choose to ignore them out of your hero worship for a group and your hatred of anyone who isn't part of that group. 

 

Here's the truth. Not all the people at that rally were nazis as you claimed, and there are good people on both sides of that debate as well as some very bad people on both sides of that debate.  Trump was QUITE correct to point that out and try to calm the waters and seek a civil dialogue. 

But of course democrats freaked at the idea that there's any resolution other than violence. 

Edited July 26, 2024 by CdnFox

[Black Dog]

39 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Holy - triggered leftie is triggered :)

The burden would be on you to prove that every single one of them was a Nazi if you want to make the claim that they're all Nazis. I have proof that many of the groups there were not Nazis but rather other groups. That's already been established. So you would have to be the one to prove that as well as being part of another group they were also Nazis as well.

And you can't because they weren't. 

Other groups that were also basically the same as Nazis, good call dummy.

Honestly if you think "they weren't all Nazis, there were lots of other people with similarly repellent political views as well" is a great defense, fill your boots, no normal person would buy that shit.

Just look at these guys, these are the people you're defending!

 

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There is a huge difference between the Nazi party and the Klu Klux Klan. There is a massive difference between those two and the alleged alt-right.

And the rally wasn't put on by Nazis. As we have already noted there were many groups there not just Nazis

Again, no one cares about the minor doctrinal differences between different groups of racist fascists except you, the person defending them.

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I never once anywhere ever said that "most" of the people weren't nazis.  I said not all were nazis. 

You said "the majority" weren't. Again do you not remember the nonsense you write once you write it?

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And I guess we can pretty much stop there. You're just repeating the same lies over and over, Virtually everything you say has to be a lie because you know the truth doesn't support your position. Any sane person knows that the alt right is not the same as Nazi. 

Insert "it's the same picture" meme here. Again, no sane person cares.

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It's very clear I have never said "most" of the people weren't nazis, just that they weren't ALL nazis. 

 

I've got you in 4K saying "The people at the demonstration we are discussing we're not all Nazis. In fact the majority of them probably weren't Nazis", why are you lying here? Are you going to try and pretend that "most" and "the majority" are quantitatively different terms, like there's a quantitative difference between the alt-right and Neo Nazis? LOL, pathetic.

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You're not much better than that five of swords guy who's been kicking around lately. You are presented with very obvious and clear truths and you choose to ignore them out of your hero worship for a group and your hatred of anyone who isn't part of that group. 

"Clear and obvious truths" yet somehow no actual evidence.

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Here's the truth. Not all the people at that rally were nazis as you claimed, and there are good people on both sides of that debate as well as some very bad people on both sides of that debate.  Trump was QUITE correct to point that out and try to calm the waters and seek a civil dialogue. 

 

As I said: no normal person actually cares about the marginal distinctions between the various groups of racist fascist scumbags who were there and certainly no one would call any of them "very fine people" except you and fatass Trump.

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But of course democrats freaked at the idea that there's any resolution other than violence. 

You know one of your very fine people murdered someone at that event right? He's rotting in prison for life because of it. But you probably think he's a martyr.

[WestCanMan]

15 hours ago, CdnFox said:

No kiddo, they're not.   

You're trying to pretend that just because you don't like someone that makes them a nazi. Or that anyone who believes in a white nation is a nazi. Or that all "alt rights" are nazi 

One of the Dems' oldest tricks, going right back to Saul Alinsky, was to get people to dress up like the KKK to go and pretend to be GOP supporters.

Not long ago a bunch of Demonrats showed up at a Youngkin rally holding tiki torches.

I don't believe for 1 second that the Charlottesville rally was what the MSM said it was. They've lied about every single protest, riot, terrorist attack and politician in the last ten years.

Why would they suddenly tell the truth on one day? Statistically speaking, that never happened. There's a better chance of mice going rogue and eating cats. 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Black Dog said:

Other groups that were also basically the same as Nazis, good call dummy.

Honestly if you think "they weren't all Nazis, there were lots of other people with similarly repellent political views as well" is a great defense, fill your boots, no normal person would buy that shit.

Just look at these guys, these are the people you're defending!

 

Again, no one cares about the minor doctrinal differences between different groups of racist fascists except you, the person defending them.

You said "the majority" weren't. Again do you not remember the nonsense you write once you write it?

Insert "it's the same picture" meme here. Again, no sane person cares.

I've got you in 4K saying "The people at the demonstration we are discussing we're not all Nazis. In fact the majority of them probably weren't Nazis", why are you lying here? Are you going to try and pretend that "most" and "the majority" are quantitatively different terms, like there's a quantitative difference between the alt-right and Neo Nazis? LOL, pathetic.

"Clear and obvious truths" yet somehow no actual evidence.

As I said: no normal person actually cares about the marginal distinctions between the various groups of racist fascist scumbags who were there and certainly no one would call any of them "very fine people" except you and fatass Trump.

You know one of your very fine people murdered someone at that event right? He's rotting in prison for life because of it. But you probably think he's a martyr.

They're not basically the same as the nazis, they're very different. 

And posting a picture of a few dozen people and pretending they're EVERY SINGLE PERSON at a protest is stupid. 

And "probably weren't" is not the same as saying they were not.  And they probably weren't.  But your claim was that i said they WERE NOT.  

This is typical of you. Someone says something and you try to twist it into something they didn't say. Given the number of people there most of the people probably wouldn't describe themselves as nazis or would be considered nazis by anyone with a brain.  But that's 'probably'. 

Is there a single thing you say that isn't a lie? 

For you groups that are specificaly NOT nazis are nazis because you like to think of them that way. Me saying something is probably the case is the same as me saying something definitively 

ANd yeah  people care about the truth. Sorry for the inconvenience. 

You lied when you said they were all nazis, you've lied about what i've said, and trump WAS correct and a responsible president SHOULD reach out to people on both sides of a dispute and calm the waters if possible. 

ANything else doggie? Or have you crapped your bed enough for one day  

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

One of the Dems' oldest tricks, going right back to Saul Alinsky, was to get people to dress up like the KKK to go and pretend to be GOP supporters.

Not long ago a bunch of Demonrats showed up at a Youngkin rally holding tiki torches.

I don't believe for 1 second that the Charlottesville rally was what the MSM said it was. They've lied about every single protest, riot, terrorist attack and politician in the last ten years.

Why would they suddenly tell the truth on one day? Statistically speaking, that never happened. There's a better chance of mice going rogue and eating cats. 

well they certainly never tell the whole truth. I've been involved in a very large number of newspaper stories where I knew the facts of what was being reported and even in the most innocuous of stories I have never seen a story reported correctly in my life. There is always something substantially wrong. And often not by intent, we're talking stories where there is no political angle or any reason for the reporter to be dishonest, they just get stuff wrong.

So when there IS reason for bias and cover up it becomes even easier to believe that substantial and important facts may have been omitted or reported incorrectly

[Black Dog]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

They're not basically the same as the nazis, they're very different. 

And posting a picture of a few dozen people and pretending they're EVERY SINGLE PERSON at a protest is stupid. 

And "probably weren't" is not the same as saying they were not.  And they probably weren't.  But your claim was that i said they WERE NOT.  

This is typical of you. Someone says something and you try to twist it into something they didn't say.

AH HA HA HA this is great. What courage! What conviction! What a total chickenshit weasel! You are squirming so hard, this is amazing.

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Given the number of people there most of the people probably wouldn't describe themselves as nazis or would be considered nazis by anyone with a brain.

Well if a guy chanting "Jews will not replace us" and throwing Seig Heil salutes says he's not a Nazi that's good enough for me. lmao

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ANd yeah  people care about the truth. Sorry for the inconvenience. 

 

I gotta ask: why is it so very important to you that no one impugn the good name of the Klu Klux Klan, the Traditional Workers Party, Identity Evropa and all the various other racist, fascist scumbags by associating them with Nazis? 

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You lied when you said they were all nazis, you've lied about what i've said, and trump WAS correct and a responsible president SHOULD reach out to people on both sides of a dispute and calm the waters if possible. 

I've quoted you directly every time, b!tch.

[WestCanMan]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

well they certainly never tell the whole truth. I've been involved in a very large number of newspaper stories where I knew the facts of what was being reported and even in the most innocuous of stories I have never seen a story reported correctly in my life. There is always something substantially wrong. And often not by intent, we're talking stories where there is no political angle or any reason for the reporter to be dishonest, they just get stuff wrong.

So when there IS reason for bias and cover up it becomes even easier to believe that substantial and important facts may have been omitted or reported incorrectly

Look how wrong the mainscum media got the freedom convoy and BLM...

The entire MSM, and even our vile abomination of a PM, were trying to tell Canadians that BLM was somehow a just and peaceful group that we were all supposed to admire and support, while the Freedom Convoy were despicable racists & misogynists out rioting, harassing innocent bystanders, defiling monuments and waving racist symbols everywhere.

@Black Dog is stupid/credulous enough to be completely bumfuzzled and sucked in by even the slightest and most blatant bit of disinformation in media, and he will never outgrow his cultist handlers. 

[CdnFox]

Just now, Black Dog said:

AH HA HA HA this is great. What courage! What conviction! What a total chickenshit weasel! You are squirming so hard, this is amazing.

LOL  you always have a melt down whenever someone points out the truth  

 

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Well if a guy chanting "Jews will not replace us" and throwing Seig Heil salutes says he's not a Nazi that's good enough for me. lmao

And every single person was doing that?  No?  LOL and the meltdown continues apace  

Once again i didn't say there were NO nazis, only that not ALL were nazis. 

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I gotta ask: why is it so very important to you that no one impugn the good name of the Klu Klux Klan, the Traditional Workers Party, Identity Evropa and all the various other racist, fascist scumbags by associating them with Nazis? 

Only you would think people like the Klu Klux Klan had a "Good" name - in fairness i guess you ARE a dem supporter and they are the militant wing of the democrats, right?  

All care about is truth and honesty. Your statement was that they're all nazis.  I said they were not all nazis. I was right, you were wrong, you're having a hissy fit. 

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I've quoted you directly every time, b!tch.

Nope. you simply take something i say  and then put your own spin on it and CLAIM it's what i said. 

When you're shown to have lied you play the 'close enough' game but it's always different than what i said. 

The problem for you is that the truth doesn't agree with your position, so your'e forced to play cheap games like that. Probably works on the toddlers you're used to debating with. 

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Look how wrong the mainscum media got the freedom convoy and BLM...

The entire MSM, and even our vile abomination of a PM, were trying to tell Canadians that BLM was somehow a just and peaceful group that we were all supposed to admire and support, while the Freedom Convoy were despicable racists & misogynists out rioting, harassing innocent bystanders, defiling monuments and waving racist symbols everywhere.

@Black Dog is stupid/credulous enough to be completely bumfuzzled and sucked in by even the slightest and most blatant bit of disinformation in media, and he will never outgrow his cultist handlers. 

Sure    the cbc reported:

The convoy was us funded by 'far right' groups.  FALSE

The convoy was funded/organized by russians  FALSE

Convoy protesters tried to burn a building down  FALSE

Convoy leaders were trying to illegally overthrow the gov't  FALSE

The freedom convoy was a racists white supremisist mob (that just happened to have a shockingly high percent of non whites)   FALSE

and a bunch more.  They get more wrong than they get right some days. 

[Black Dog]

Just now, CdnFox said:

LOL  you always have a melt down whenever someone points out the truth  

And you always bust out that dumb emoji when you're drowning.

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And every single person was doing that?  No?  LOL and the meltdown continues apace  

Once again i didn't say there were NO nazis, only that not ALL were nazis. 

 

Don't care it doesn't matter. If you're at a rally on the side of a bunch of Nazis and you stick around, you're no different or better than the Nazis IDGAF what you want to call yourself.

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Only you would think people like the Klu Klux Klan had a "Good" name - in fairness i guess you ARE a dem supporter and they are the militant wing of the democrats, right?  

I mean you're the one sticking up for them here, you need to make up your mind if they're evil socilaist Dems or people being unfairly tarred as Nazis bruh.

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All care about is truth and honesty. Your statement was that they're all nazis.  I said they were not all nazis. I was right, you were wrong, you're having a hissy fit. 

If you had a normie friend (i know you don't have friends, but pretend) and said some shit like "y'know, it's not fair to cal the alt-right Nazis, like sure they have similar views on white racial supremacy, scientific racism, white genocide and the JQ, but there's quite a few areas where they don't see eye-to-eye and it's unfair to lump them together" I guarantee you would not have a friend anymore.

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Nope. you simply take something i say  and then put your own spin on it and CLAIM it's what i said. 

"Spin" is what you do when you take a simple phrase like "the majority of them probably weren't Nazis" and attempt to contort yourself to pretend it's definitionally distinct from the phrase "most people at the rally weren't Nazis" based on a single minor qualifier "probably".

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When you're shown to have lied you play the 'close enough' game but it's always different than what i said. 

Again, the only person to have lied in this thread is you when you claimed I was "altering quotes." You still don;y have the balls to admit that.

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The problem for you is that the truth doesn't agree with your position, so your'e forced to play cheap games like that. Probably works on the toddlers you're used to debating with. 

That's you, you're the toddler.

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

Sure    the cbc reported:

The convoy was us funded by 'far right' groups.  FALSE

The convoy was funded/organized by russians  FALSE

Convoy protesters tried to burn a building down  FALSE

Convoy leaders were trying to illegally overthrow the gov't  FALSE

The freedom convoy was a racists white supremisist mob (that just happened to have a shockingly high percent of non whites)   FALSE

and a bunch more.  They get more wrong than they get right do nothing but lie and fabricate some most days. 

Not to mention that the whole reason they were there was to protect Canadians, and even young adults, from harmful pseudovax mandates. They were there for the best possible reasons of all, and our gov't and mainscum media completely reversed their reasons for being there and cast them as villains. 

I ask you, should Canadians tolerate these mainscum media monsters? Absolutely not. We should push back on them, and let them know that they are not welcome. 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Black Dog said:

And you always bust out that dumb emoji when you're drowning.

Don't care it doesn't matter. If you're at a rally on the side of a bunch of Nazis and you stick around, you're no different or better than the Nazis IDGAF what you want to call yourself.

I mean you're the one sticking up for them here, you need to make up your mind if they're evil socilaist Dems or people being unfairly tarred as Nazis bruh.

If you had a normie friend (i know you don't have friends, but pretend) and said some shit like "y'know, it's not fair to cal the alt-right Nazis, like sure they have similar views on white racial supremacy, scientific racism, white genocide and the JQ, but there's quite a few areas where they don't see eye-to-eye and it's unfair to lump them together" I guarantee you would not have a friend anymore.

"Spin" is what you do when you take a simple phrase like "the majority of them probably weren't Nazis" and attempt to contort yourself to pretend it's definitionally distinct from the phrase "most people at the rally weren't Nazis" based on a single minor qualifier "probably".

Again, the only person to have lied in this thread is you when you claimed I was "altering quotes." You still don;y have the balls to admit that.

That's you, you're the toddler.

I 'bust out' the emoji when i'm laughing   I spend a lot of time laughing at you so you tend to see it a lot  

So now you've given up trying to pretend that everyone was nazis.  well... progress i suppose  

Saying that staying at the rally with your group just because there's a different group there you might not like is silly. But if it's your opinion then fine, that's something you can keep in mind for the future when you attend a rally. But others may not see it that way. 

At the end of the day they're people  and if both sides can be reasoned with and brought together to talk then that's better than confrontation and violence. I know you dems are fond of the confrontation and violence but that's not really what's best for the nation. 

And dude- MOST people have been saying that the left has been calling everyone nazi's way too much. Sorry to burst your bubble.  MOST of the non brain damaged posters here have commented on it, we've had threads on it, etc etc. MOST people don't like how the left calls evyerone right of castro 'alt right' and nazi 

SO you'd lose your money pretty quick    People are tired of the woke. 

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"Spin" is what you do when you take a simple phrase like "the majority of them probably weren't Nazis" and attempt to contort yourself to pretend..

To pretend that's the same as saying "they're all definitely not nazis', which is about what you claimed i said? You mean to do what you did? 

Yes  - you try to "spin" a lot of things. 

You always do this. IF someone says 'I don't believe that's true' you'll say 'You said you could prove it wasn't true".  IF someone says something is "probably" one way or another then in your mind they GUARNATEED it was.  If someone says something is a little like this  you'll claim they said it's ENTIRELY like that. 

And if someone says not all the people are nazis'  you claim they are all nazis even if they are not all nazis. 

And if you get called on it then it's somehow the other person's fault. 

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That's you, you're the toddler.

No wonder you spend so much time talking about other people's kids being sexy, you can't tell the difference between a toddler and an adult!  Mystery solved  

[West]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-rapidly-recovering-after-being-shot-during-pennsylvania-rally-ex-white-house-doctor-says

Trump's doctor thoroughly debunks Wray's attempt to discredit Trump's claim that he was shot. 

Now the FBI want to interview Trump after their illegal raids and propaganda probably contributed to his assassination attempt

Edited July 26, 2024 by West

[CouchPotato]

2 hours ago, Black Dog said:

But Trump only mentioned the Nazis and white nationalists, he didn't say anything about the Klan, the militias, the Traditionalist Worker Party, the alt-right people.

 

He probably assumed that normal people would understand that condemning Nazis and white supremacists means he condemns all the racisty bad guys. He mistakenly assumed that liberals are normal people.

I think what Trump should do next time there is a situation like this is just name all the people in the crowd one-by-one and say if they were bad or good.

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

 

He probably assumed that normal people would understand that condemning Nazis and white supremacists means he condemns all the racisty bad guys. He mistakenly assumed that liberals are normal people.

I think what Trump should do next time there is a situation like this is just name all the people in the crowd one-by-one and say if they were bad or good.

the dems would still claim he mispronounced Tadgh Oisín Caoimhe's name and that proves he's a racist.