What is the Republican platform?

[West]

The talking heads on PBS last night brought up they didn't know what the Republican platform is. 

I would submit this is because the Democrats act much like a cult. Everything is top down with Pelosi and Schumer's funders treated like God's

The Republicans are primarily a free speech party and exchange of ideas. Like any successful business, you need people who push back and disrupt. That's how Trump runs his party where conflict is actually a good thing as it brings out the best path forward.

So that is why these political pundits hate it because they want everyone in uniform. They dont want you to challenge the old guard ideas like whether or not NAFTA or NATO are good things for America; the sacred cows of the old guards. Individualism and being not afraid to push back without fear of crazy people trying to take you out is what will Make America Great Again.

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, West said:

The talking heads on PBS last night brought up they didn't know what the Republican platform is. 

I would submit this is because the Democrats act much like a cult. Everything is top down with Pelosi and Schumer's funders treated like God's

The Republicans are primarily a free speech party and exchange of ideas. Like any successful business, you need people who push back and disrupt. That's how Trump runs his party where conflict is actually a good thing as it brings out the best path forward.

So that is why these political pundits hate it because they want everyone in uniform. They dont want you to challenge the old guard ideas like whether or not NAFTA or NATO are good things for America; the sacred cows of the old guards. Individualism and being not afraid to push back without fear of crazy people trying to take you out is what will Make America Great Again.

You say the craziest things. Today's Republican party could not be any more top-down. The litmus test for viability is loyalty to Trump--agreeing with whatever crazy shit he says next. People are not allowed to criticize him or oppose him. They must either bend the knee and kiss the ring or they are exiled and punished. If someone (even a VPOTUS, for example) doesn't go along with Trump's crooked, schemes they are risking not just their political future, but even their lives.

[West]

11 minutes ago, Hodad said:

You say the craziest things. Today's Republican party could not be any more top-down. The litmus test for viability is loyalty to Trump--agreeing with whatever crazy shit he says next. People are not allowed to criticize him or oppose him. They must either bend the knee and kiss the ring or they are exiled and punished. If someone (even a VPOTUS, for example) doesn't go along with Trump's crooked, schemes they are risking not just their political future, but even their lives.

This is what Democrats narrative is but its pretty false. 

There's many factions within the party and the platform is an exchange of ideas that ultimately leads to progress and implementation of the best way forward. 

The facts are for the longest time you could not challenge fighting wars in the middle east. This lead to a drain of resources, countless deaths, and the nation crumbling at home. Just imagine what the trillions of dollars both parties sent to Iraq or now the Ukraine could do to repair infrastructure at home and deal with the opioid crisis. That's basically the populist wing.

For the longest time Democrats had it enshrined in law through the violation of the Court system that the experts were the ones in charge. This lead to national security "experts" pushing the US into wars they had no business being in. So when you hear "trust the experts" its really just cult speak so that they can get their way without actually having to convince anyone of their ideas

Edited July 19, 2024 by West

[Deluge]

17 minutes ago, Hodad said:

You say the craziest things. Today's Republican party could not be any more top-down. The litmus test for viability is loyalty to Trump--agreeing with whatever crazy shit he says next. People are not allowed to criticize him or oppose him. They must either bend the knee and kiss the ring or they are exiled and punished. If someone (even a VPOTUS, for example) doesn't go along with Trump's crooked, schemes they are risking not just their political future, but even their lives.

Hodad is a product of left-wing indoctrination. 

It's why shit like "TRUMP IS A FASCIST!!!" or "TRUMP IS HITLER REBORN!! or "TRUMP IS A RACIST!!!" is all that spews out of his face. 

Edited July 19, 2024 by Deluge

[robosmith]

44 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Hodad is a product of left-wing indoctrination. 

It's why shit like "TRUMP IS A FASCIST!!!" or "TRUMP IS HITLER REBORN!! or "TRUMP IS A RACIST!!!" is all that spews out of his face. 

Your and Trump's buddy and VP candidate Vance called Trump "America's Hitler." Duh

WE all know Trump's HISTORY of RACISM. Do you?

[Deluge]

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Your and Trump's buddy and VP candidate Vance called Trump "America's Hitler." Duh

WE all know Trump's HISTORY of RACISM. Do you?

People change, robowoke, and I'm sure most Americans wish you psychopaths would abandon your cult and become real people. 

[Hodad]

3 minutes ago, West said:

This is what Democrats narrative is but its pretty false. 

There's many factions within the party and the platform is an exchange of ideas that ultimately leads to progress and implementation of the best way forward. 

The facts are for the longest time you could not challenge fighting wars in the middle east. This lead to a drain of resources, countless deaths, and the nation crumbling at home. Just imagine what the trillions of dollars both parties sent to Iraq or now the Ukraine could do to repair infrastructure at home and deal with the opioid crisis. That's basically the populist wing.

For the longest time Democrats had it enshrined in law through the violation of the Court system that the experts were the ones in charge. This lead to national security "experts" pushing the US into wars they had no business being in. 

Sure. Tell that to Mike Pence, or Liz Cheney, Brad Raffensberger or any number of Republicans who simply did their jobs. And they're getting literal death threats for simply doing the right thing instead of following Trump. And people like Paul Ryan, once the VP nominee simply left because there was no room in the Party of Trump for conscientious disagreement.  

[robosmith]

30 minutes ago, Deluge said:

People change, robowoke, and I'm sure most Americans wish you psychopaths would abandon your cult and become real people. 

I don't have a cult, DELUGINAL. EVERYONE wishes the MAGA CULT would disappear and stop believing Trump's pathological LIES.

[herbie]

3 hours ago, West said:

Democrats act much like a cult

[robosmith]

2 minutes ago, herbie said:

[Deluge]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

I don't have a cult, DELUGINAL. EVERYONE wishes the MAGA CULT would disappear and stop believing Trump's pathological LIES.

Open borders, Fentanyl, inflation, lawfare... America's sick of the woke bullshit and now it's time to flush you a$$holes down the shitter.  

[West]

4 hours ago, herbie said:

 

[herbie]

Republican platform in one word

[Five of swords]

11 hours ago, West said:

The talking heads on PBS last night brought up they didn't know what the Republican platform is. 

I would submit this is because the Democrats act much like a cult. Everything is top down with Pelosi and Schumer's funders treated like God's

The Republicans are primarily a free speech party and exchange of ideas. Like any successful business, you need people who push back and disrupt. That's how Trump runs his party where conflict is actually a good thing as it brings out the best path forward.

So that is why these political pundits hate it because they want everyone in uniform. They dont want you to challenge the old guard ideas like whether or not NAFTA or NATO are good things for America; the sacred cows of the old guards. Individualism and being not afraid to push back without fear of crazy people trying to take you out is what will Make America Great Again.

So people are confused about what the republican platform is and your response is 'we will talk about it and have the best ideas'...which really isn't an answer.

 

And today you can't really brag about being the party of free speech considering how much you support the suppression of speech critical of jews and Israel. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Five of swords said:

So people are confused about what the republican platform is and your response is 'we will talk about it and have the best ideas'...which really isn't an answer.

 

And today you can't really brag about being the party of free speech considering how much you support the suppression of speech critical of jews and Israel. 

They also support the surpression of calling for the death of them n*ggars like the dems used to call for. 

Free speech isn't unlimited. If it conflicts with the right of others to their human rights, such as the right to life etc, then that conflict must be remedied. By legal tradition we do so by looking at which right is 'offended' the most by being limited. 

This is basically the old (and actually utterly incorrect but still good for illustration) idea that you can't yell fire in a crowded theatre.  Exercising your free speech in a way that could lead to the death of others or endorse a crime is over that line. 

You'll understand this better when  you grow up  

[CdnFox]

12 hours ago, West said:

The talking heads on PBS last night brought up they didn't know what the Republican platform is. 

I would submit this is because the Democrats act much like a cult. Everything is top down with Pelosi and Schumer's funders treated like God's

The Republicans are primarily a free speech party and exchange of ideas. Like any successful business, you need people who push back and disrupt. That's how Trump runs his party where conflict is actually a good thing as it brings out the best path forward.

So that is why these political pundits hate it because they want everyone in uniform. They dont want you to challenge the old guard ideas like whether or not NAFTA or NATO are good things for America; the sacred cows of the old guards. Individualism and being not afraid to push back without fear of crazy people trying to take you out is what will Make America Great Again.

I suspect that they understand the policy platform just fine. It's not complex, and he's put most of it out there. I'm sure we'll hear more details over the actual campaign.

What he is trying to do is suggest that they don't have a policy and that they are aimlessly wandering around and will drive the country off a cliff because they don't know what they're doing. By claiming he cannot imagine what their policy is he's saying trump makes it up as he goes and doesn't have anything in his mind.

This bit of fibbery is designed to scare voters off. It probably won't work but what else have they got?

[Deluge]

9 hours ago, herbie said:

Republican platform in one word

No, that's you and the rest of the global marxists. 

TRUE Republican platfrom in 5 words:

 

Edited July 20, 2024 by Deluge

[gatomontes99]

8 hours ago, Five of swords said:

So people are confused about what the republican platform is and your response is 'we will talk about it and have the best ideas'...which really isn't an answer.

 

And today you can't really brag about being the party of free speech considering how much you support the suppression of speech critical of jews and Israel. 

How in the hell can anyone be confused about the Republican platform?

Close borders, lower taxes, reduce regulations, strong military, no libs (most are nice people but they shouldnt be running the country).

[Michael Hardner]

"no libs" 😂

[Five of swords]

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

They also support the surpression of calling for the death of them n*ggars like the dems used to call for. 

Free speech isn't unlimited. If it conflicts with the right of others to their human rights, such as the right to life etc, then that conflict must be remedied. By legal tradition we do so by looking at which right is 'offended' the most by being limited. 

This is basically the old (and actually utterly incorrect but still good for illustration) idea that you can't yell fire in a crowded theatre.  Exercising your free speech in a way that could lead to the death of others or endorse a crime is over that line. 

You'll understand this better when  you grow up  

The thing I always found funny about that meme about it not being legal to yell fire in a crowded theater is that actually it is legal, lol

[BeaverFever]

21 hours ago, West said:

The talking heads on PBS last night brought up they didn't know what the Republican platform is. 

I would submit this is because the Democrats act much like a cult. Everything is top down with Pelosi and Schumer's funders treated like God's

The Republicans are primarily a free speech party and exchange of ideas. Like any successful business, you need people who push back and disrupt. That's how Trump runs his party where conflict is actually a good thing as it brings out the best path forward.

So that is why these political pundits hate it because they want everyone in uniform. They dont want you to challenge the old guard ideas like whether or not NAFTA or NATO are good things for America; the sacred cows of the old guards. Individualism and being not afraid to push back without fear of crazy people trying to take you out is what will Make America Great Again.

Another opposite-of-reality joke. 

As evidenced by the Democrats current in-fighting over replacing Biden, the party is not under the cult leadership of anyone much less Pelosi and Schumer of all people 

Reality has also shown that the GOP is the cult of Trump and TrUMP alone, with RNC in Milwaukee being widely described as a “ring-kissing contest” of speaker after speaker adulating Trump as humanity’s lone saviour and benevolent god   HE ALONE CAN SAVE US.  Not his team, not his people, ONLY HIM    The RNC is also described as “ritual humiliation” for all those Republicans who dared to challenge him like Haley and DeSantis, who each were required to appear on stage to repent their sins and express their newfound undying loyalty to Trump while the crowd booed and jeered  All you need to do is look at this humiliation display and how Republicans have canceled and attacked all Republicans who have refused to bend the knee to Trump (Liz Cheney, Mitt Romney, Pence etc etc) to know that the claim that the GOP is a free speech party that welcomes diversity of thought is a hilarious joke  Mile Pence did not attend RNC out of fear for his personal safety  

The GOP has no coherent platform because it is the cult of Trump and has no independent beliefs or consciousness except to worship Trump and support whatever he decides to do or not do, say or not say “we have no idea what he might say or do but whatever it is we unconditionally support it because we worship him”.  That was essentially what they publicly declared in 2020 when they didn’t release a platform.  In 2024 I believe they simply photocopied the Trump campaign platform and declared it their own, after Lara Trump took over leadership of the GOP and earlier this year declared that ”every single penny” of RNC funds should go to Trump.  
 

 To whit:  those espousing the exact same political and economic views as Trump supporters are shunned and abused if they don’t support Trump as the ideal party leader  while while those with un-conservative views who publicly support Trump are welcomed and celebrated. For example Liz Cheney, a traditional conservative whose congressional voting record was actually highly consistent with the Trump White House and GOP colleagues, and who had one of the highest ratings from conservative groups and lobbyists is a HATED ONE solely because she opposed Trump’s 2020 election lies. Meanwhile those with un-conservative views who support Trump are welcomed with open arms, e.g, Elise Stefanik, a long-time moderate Republican whom Conservatives had long decried her as a “New York liberal,” whose congressional voting record was least consistent with the Trump White House and GOP colleagues, who had one the worst ratings from conservative groups and lobbyists, but always publicly praised and supported Trump including his 2020 election lies  She is welcomed with open arms and was even considered to be a potential Trump VP pick   

The Republican Party has become the “choose your own reality” party with Trump as the undisputed god.  You can believe the nobody has done more to stop Putin or COVID than Trump, or you can believe that Trump is the only one to know COVID was a hoax and Putin is the good guy.  You can believe Trump conceded the 2020 election with dignity and denounced the “heinous attack” on Jan 6 or you can believe he continues to fight the stolen election and the J6 attackers we’re peaceful visitors on a family-friendly self-guided tour and are political prisoners. As long as you unconditionally worship Trump your perception of reality doesn’t matter. In fact, Trump and his closest supporters intentionally create conflicting perceptions of reality as he has personally and deliberately said all of these contradictory claims, knowing his followers will cherry-pick, exaggerate and fabricate whatever “facts” they need to in order to believe their beliefs align with their infallible Messiah.  
 

In the cult of GOP, unconditional worship of the messiah and unconstitutional hatred of all those who refuse to do the same is  all that matters. No policy platform or shared perception of reality is required for that. 

Edited July 20, 2024 by BeaverFever

[BeaverFever]

3 minutes ago, Five of swords said:

The thing I always found funny about that meme about it not being legal to yell fire in a crowded theater is that actually it is legal, lol

Technically. But if doing so caused a stampede and people got hurt or died you would be likely be charged with some  offence if you didn’t actually believe there was a fire. 

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

no libs (most are nice people but they shouldnt be running the country).

How exactly will Republicans enforce that plank of their platform without actually forming a dictatorship?

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, Deluge said:

No, that's you and the rest of the global marxists. 

TRUE Republican platfrom in 5 words:

 

Notice the blood on the ground 

[gatomontes99]

7 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Technically. But if doing so caused a stampede and people got hurt or died you would be likely be charged with some  offence if you didn’t actually believe there was a fire. 

How exactly will Republicans enforce that plank of their platform without actually forming a dictatorship?

Yall have zero sense of humor.

[Deluge]

2 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Notice the blood on the ground 

Which is what happens when you stand in the way of American greatness.