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If Presidents or other cabinet members could be held accountable legally for their decisions, the whole business of government would fall apart.  Think about Pearl Harbour, for instance: should Roosevelt have been charged with lying to the public and death of 3500 or so in the attack? (worth remembering that US could and DID translate almost every encoded transmission by the Japanese Navy for many months before Dec 42),   For that matter decisions by other Presidents to send troops into Vietnam where the US had no real business in being there?

I would love to see the entire cabinet accountable for the incredible level of greed and criminality involved in the whole system of money coming and going via favour and privilege granted by government, and think that SHOULD be done, but hard to draw the line on where doing things by cabinet decree becomes criminal vs. expedient politics.

Above all else: the US Constitution was upheld, and that is very much the duty of the SCOTUS to support.   Wish we actually had such a piece of legislation.

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27 minutes ago, West said:

Immunity ONLY for official acts.

Unofficial PRIVATE acts have NO IMMUNITY. 

Campaign acts for which Trump is charged, are PRIVATE.

27 minutes ago, West said:

This isn't good as Joe has been committing many human rights violations while President 

^Your amateur OPINION means NOTHING in court.

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5 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

The left loses their sh1t today.

The Jack Smith trial re:J6 is effectively over.

Now, we just need some reasonable court to throw out the b.s. lawsuit in NY and the b.s. conviction in NY and we are back to a democratic republic again.

For now, tyranny lives. But it's taken a severe blow.

It RIDICULOUS that you believe attempting to overthrow an election is NOT tyranny.

 

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8 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Immunity ONLY for official acts.

Unofficial PRIVATE acts have NO IMMUNITY. 

Campaign acts for which Trump is charged, are PRIVATE.

^Your amateur OPINION means NOTHING in court.

Donnie declassified the docs. Jack Smith is illegitimate as he wasn't approved by congress therefore he's probably gonna end up in jail

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7 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Immunity ONLY for official acts.

Unofficial PRIVATE acts have NO IMMUNITY. 

Campaign acts for which Trump is charged, are PRIVATE.

^Your amateur OPINION means NOTHING in court.

It's not a good idea to take onions into court, also minions only appear in movies.

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2 minutes ago, West said:

Donnie declassified the docs. Jack Smith is illegitimate as he wasn't approved by congress therefore he's probably gonna end up in jail

Jack Smith is just another low life criminal from a Dickens novel.

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10 minutes ago, West said:

Donnie declassified the docs. Jack Smith is illegitimate as he wasn't approved by congress therefore he's probably gonna end up in jail

Of course you have ZERO EVIDENCE for ^this BULLSHIT, as USUAL.

10 minutes ago, Legato said:

It's not a good idea to take onions into court, also minions only appear in movies.

Same as ^TROLLS.

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18 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Of course you have ZERO EVIDENCE for ^this BULLSHIT, as USUAL.

Same as ^TROLLS.

You are melting down today there bot boy. Maybe it's time to update your programming? 

Thomas wrote:

"If this unprecedented prosecution is to proceed, it must be conducted by someone authorized to do so by the American people."

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1 hour ago, robosmith said:

It RIDICULOUS that you believe attempting to overthrow an election is NOT tyranny.

Who tried to overthrow the election?

Trump no more tried to overthrow the election than Gore did and you supported. You STILL think what happened to Gore was not legitimate. 

 

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55 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Of course you have ZERO EVIDENCE for ^this BULLSHIT, as USUAL.

Same as ^TROLLS.

Lol...OOPS...There goes the other shoe. Now what Libbies? We now know that should any cases against Trump get to the SCOTUS, they will die at the SCOTUS.

LOL!

Ahhh...you tried and tried. You broke laws...you lied...you cheated...you even declared war on half your own nation...and for what?

Sweet Fck All! That's what.

Enjoy the election...

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3 hours ago, West said:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-immunity-case-supreme-court-rules-ex-presidents-substantial-protection-prosecution

This isn't good as Joe has been committing many human rights violations while President 

Trump is publicly celebrating the ruling as it limits his exposure in some of the criminal cases against him.  It’s also on the Republican wish list as they have an extensive agenda to execute if Trump is elected, much of which might otherwise be criminal 

I hop republicans realize this ruling means Biden can now  simply order the military to assassinate Trump and would have full immunity since that would be an official act and therefore immune from prosecution?

The USSC under republican domination has simply become a partisan machine-gun of MAGA “project 2025”  wish list items  

 

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18 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

I hop republicans realize this ruling means Biden can now  simply order the military to assassinate Trump and would have full immunity since that would be an official act and therefore immune from prosecution?

Yet again, you are a victim of your own purposeful ignorance. Read the ruling. 

Nowhere did any of it allow for the President to order the military to assassinate someone... 

 

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20 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Trump is publicly celebrating the ruling as it limits his exposure in some of the criminal cases against him.  It’s also on the Republican wish list as they have an extensive agenda to execute if Trump is elected, much of which might otherwise be criminal 

I hop republicans realize this ruling means Biden can now  simply order the military to assassinate Trump and would have full immunity since that would be an official act and therefore immune from prosecution?

The USSC under republican domination has simply become a partisan machine-gun of MAGA “project 2025”  wish list items  

 

No a sitting president cannot just order the assassination of a US citizen

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23 minutes ago, Hodad said:

With no law capable of constraining the executive, the last barrier to dictatorship has fallen, along with all of John Roberts hopes for legacy. Instead, should the country survive to remember, this court will live in infamy.

They haven't put limits in yet, all these things will come before the court and the court will decide whether they are immune or not. Not that you can just do whatever you want.

All they are saying that there has to be some level of immunity or every election the former President would be brought up on charges.

This has never been brought up by the courts but this is the first time you had a current administration going after a former President legally.

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13 minutes ago, Fluffypants said:

They haven't put limits in yet, all these things will come before the court and the court will decide whether they are immune or not. Not that you can just do whatever you want.

All they are saying that there has to be some level of immunity or every election the former President would be brought up on charges.

This has never been brought up by the courts but this is the first time you had a current administration going after a former President legally.

I would imagine the democrats insider trading is illegal, as is the illegitimate Jack Smith investigation. 

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49 minutes ago, Hodad said:

With no law capable of constraining the executive, the last barrier to dictatorship has fallen, along with all of John Roberts hopes for legacy. Instead, should the country survive to remember, this court will live in infamy.

Oh bullspit.

First, There still is and always has been checks and balances.

Second, impeachment is a thing.

Third, stop being such a baby. Just stop.

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54 minutes ago, Hodad said:

With no law capable of constraining the executive, the last barrier to dictatorship has fallen, along with all of John Roberts hopes for legacy. Instead, should the country survive to remember, this court will live in infamy.

I see you've quit being a fish monger to become a fear monger.

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