BeaverFever Posted July 1, 2024 Report Posted July 1, 2024 (edited) Oklahoma schools head Ryan Walters: Teachers who won't teach Bible could lose license Oklahoma educators who refuse to teach students about the Bible could lose their teaching license, Superintendent of Public Instruction Ryan Walters said in an interview with NBC News on Friday. Walters issued a memo Thursday instructing all Oklahoma schools to teach students in grades five through 12 about the Bible’s influence on the nation’s founding and historical American figures. Schools will also be required to stock a Bible in every classroom. In an interview with NBC News, Walters said if a teacher refuses to follow the Bible instruction mandate, they’d face the same consequences as one who refuses to teach about the Civil War. The punishment could include revocation of their teaching license, he said, a process that requires a vote by the Oklahoma State Board of Education, which Walters chairs. “Any teacher that would knowingly, willfully disobey the law and disobey our standards — there are repercussions for that,” Walters said. “So we deal with that on a case-by-case basis, but yes, teachers have to teach Oklahoma Academic Standards and this is absolutely going to be part of them.” Walters’ new rule on incorporating Bible instruction was immediately criticized by civil liberties and religious groups. The Jewish Federation of Tulsa and the Oklahoma chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations both said in statements that Walters is inappropriately promoting Christianity in schools. … A spokesperson from the Oklahoma attorney general’s office said in an email that existing law already allowed teachers to use Bibles in the classroom during instruction and that, “There is no legal authority for a memo from the Superintendent to require content.” Walters said he feels confident that his order will survive legal challenges because of the justices then-President Donald Trump appointed to the Supreme Court. “He’s helped provide a path for us to be able to do this as states,” Walters said of Trump. He added that if Trump wins a second term in November, “it will help us move the ball forward, even more so than this.” https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna159548 The f-cking Christian Taliban dictatorship is on the march. Handmaid’s Tale is real. Remember these are the same red states who in recent decades tried to stop or discredit the teaching of evolution Edited July 1, 2024 by BeaverFever 1 1 Quote
herbie Posted July 1, 2024 Report Posted July 1, 2024 Ok children, this is the Bible and this is the Kama Sutra.They are both books. Enough said. If I catch you reading either in my class, you will be sent home. Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted July 1, 2024 Report Posted July 1, 2024 4 hours ago, BeaverFever said: The f-cking Christian Taliban dictatorship is on the march. Handmaid’s Tale is real. Remember these are the same red states who in recent decades tried to stop or discredit the teaching of evolution It's Oklahoma. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
CdnFox Posted July 1, 2024 Report Posted July 1, 2024 5 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Oklahoma schools head Ryan Walters: Teachers who won't teach Bible could lose license Oklahoma educators who refuse to teach students about the Bible could lose their teaching license, Superintendent of Public Instruction Ryan Walters said in an interview with NBC News on Friday. Walters issued a memo Thursday instructing all Oklahoma schools to teach students in grades five through 12 about the Bible’s influence on the nation’s founding and historical American figures. Schools will also be required to stock a Bible in every classroom. In an interview with NBC News, Walters said if a teacher refuses to follow the Bible instruction mandate, they’d face the same consequences as one who refuses to teach about the Civil War. The punishment could include revocation of their teaching license, he said, a process that requires a vote by the Oklahoma State Board of Education, which Walters chairs. “Any teacher that would knowingly, willfully disobey the law and disobey our standards — there are repercussions for that,” Walters said. “So we deal with that on a case-by-case basis, but yes, teachers have to teach Oklahoma Academic Standards and this is absolutely going to be part of them.” Walters’ new rule on incorporating Bible instruction was immediately criticized by civil liberties and religious groups. The Jewish Federation of Tulsa and the Oklahoma chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations both said in statements that Walters is inappropriately promoting Christianity in schools. … A spokesperson from the Oklahoma attorney general’s office said in an email that existing law already allowed teachers to use Bibles in the classroom during instruction and that, “There is no legal authority for a memo from the Superintendent to require content.” Walters said he feels confident that his order will survive legal challenges because of the justices then-President Donald Trump appointed to the Supreme Court. “He’s helped provide a path for us to be able to do this as states,” Walters said of Trump. He added that if Trump wins a second term in November, “it will help us move the ball forward, even more so than this.” https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna159548 The f-cking Christian Taliban dictatorship is on the march. Handmaid’s Tale is real. Remember these are the same red states who in recent decades tried to stop or discredit the teaching of evolution And? Teach the curriculum. Teachers don't get to decide that. If there was a teacher who refused to teach about evolution out of their own beliefs we'd fire them . Teachers who don't want to teach the curriculum need to be fired. 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
gatomontes99 Posted July 1, 2024 Report Posted July 1, 2024 Oh how the left lies. Headline: "Teachers who won't teach the Bible will lose their license." Reality, the curriculum calls for teaching how the Bible influenced the founding of the nation. And I'm sure the curriculum also calls for teaching about John Locke and his Natural Rights writings. The headline is designed to feed off the prejudices of the left. This author wants the left to get mad that the right would force teachers to teach the Bible. And they should be mad, if that actually happened. But it won't. Because that isn't how we think. 2 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
User Posted July 1, 2024 Report Posted July 1, 2024 (edited) 9 hours ago, herbie said: Ok children, this is the Bible and this is the Kama Sutra.They are both books. Enough said. If I catch you reading either in my class, you will be sent home. So... you think students shouldn't be able to read The Bible in the classroom? That goes the opposite direction of this law, and you now expressly want to infringe on the students' religious freedom. Edited July 1, 2024 by User Quote
User Posted July 1, 2024 Report Posted July 1, 2024 10 hours ago, BeaverFever said: The f-cking Christian Taliban dictatorship is on the march. Handmaid’s Tale is real. In the end, your extreme exaggerations here, make you worse than anything Trump says. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted July 1, 2024 Report Posted July 1, 2024 11 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Oklahoma schools head Ryan Walters: Teachers who won't teach Bible could lose license Oklahoma educators who refuse to teach students about the Bible could lose their teaching license, Superintendent of Public Instruction Ryan Walters said in an interview with NBC News on Friday. Walters issued a memo Thursday instructing all Oklahoma schools to teach students in grades five through 12 about the Bible’s influence on the nation’s founding and historical American figures. Schools will also be required to stock a Bible in every classroom. In an interview with NBC News, Walters said if a teacher refuses to follow the Bible instruction mandate, they’d face the same consequences as one who refuses to teach about the Civil War. The punishment could include revocation of their teaching license, he said, a process that requires a vote by the Oklahoma State Board of Education, which Walters chairs. “Any teacher that would knowingly, willfully disobey the law and disobey our standards — there are repercussions for that,” Walters said. “So we deal with that on a case-by-case basis, but yes, teachers have to teach Oklahoma Academic Standards and this is absolutely going to be part of them.” Walters’ new rule on incorporating Bible instruction was immediately criticized by civil liberties and religious groups. The Jewish Federation of Tulsa and the Oklahoma chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations both said in statements that Walters is inappropriately promoting Christianity in schools. … A spokesperson from the Oklahoma attorney general’s office said in an email that existing law already allowed teachers to use Bibles in the classroom during instruction and that, “There is no legal authority for a memo from the Superintendent to require content.” Walters said he feels confident that his order will survive legal challenges because of the justices then-President Donald Trump appointed to the Supreme Court. “He’s helped provide a path for us to be able to do this as states,” Walters said of Trump. He added that if Trump wins a second term in November, “it will help us move the ball forward, even more so than this.” https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna159548 The f-cking Christian Taliban dictatorship is on the march. Handmaid’s Tale is real. Remember these are the same red states who in recent decades tried to stop or discredit the teaching of evolution You're upset...I can tell. Unfortunately...you and your Libbie rags are lying...yet agin. The Bible did have an impact on how the USA was formed and that does need to be taught and understood. But as always...you insane Libbies don't care about truth. You only care about your preferred flavor of social re-engineering. The "new normal". Well Libbies...fck your "new normal". You may have your own opinion...but you cannot have your own truth. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Deluge Posted July 1, 2024 Report Posted July 1, 2024 11 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Oklahoma schools head Ryan Walters: Teachers who won't teach Bible could lose license Oklahoma educators who refuse to teach students about the Bible could lose their teaching license, Superintendent of Public Instruction Ryan Walters said in an interview with NBC News on Friday. Walters issued a memo Thursday instructing all Oklahoma schools to teach students in grades five through 12 about the Bible’s influence on the nation’s founding and historical American figures. Schools will also be required to stock a Bible in every classroom. In an interview with NBC News, Walters said if a teacher refuses to follow the Bible instruction mandate, they’d face the same consequences as one who refuses to teach about the Civil War. The punishment could include revocation of their teaching license, he said, a process that requires a vote by the Oklahoma State Board of Education, which Walters chairs. “Any teacher that would knowingly, willfully disobey the law and disobey our standards — there are repercussions for that,” Walters said. “So we deal with that on a case-by-case basis, but yes, teachers have to teach Oklahoma Academic Standards and this is absolutely going to be part of them.” Walters’ new rule on incorporating Bible instruction was immediately criticized by civil liberties and religious groups. The Jewish Federation of Tulsa and the Oklahoma chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations both said in statements that Walters is inappropriately promoting Christianity in schools. … A spokesperson from the Oklahoma attorney general’s office said in an email that existing law already allowed teachers to use Bibles in the classroom during instruction and that, “There is no legal authority for a memo from the Superintendent to require content.” Walters said he feels confident that his order will survive legal challenges because of the justices then-President Donald Trump appointed to the Supreme Court. “He’s helped provide a path for us to be able to do this as states,” Walters said of Trump. He added that if Trump wins a second term in November, “it will help us move the ball forward, even more so than this.” https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna159548 The f-cking Christian Taliban dictatorship is on the march. Handmaid’s Tale is real. Remember these are the same red states who in recent decades tried to stop or discredit the teaching of evolution This is good. America's schools could use a good dose of biblical influence. The queers have had way, WAY too much power and influence in the classrooms. Quote
Deluge Posted July 1, 2024 Report Posted July 1, 2024 10 hours ago, herbie said: Ok children, this is the Bible and this is the Kama Sutra.They are both books. Enough said. If I catch you reading either in my class, you will be sent home. OK children, this is the Bible and this is the Kama Sutra. They are both books but the first book contains pearls of wisdom and the second book is not appropriate for young viewers. If I catch any of you reading the second book in this classroom, you will be sent home. Quote
herbie Posted July 1, 2024 Report Posted July 1, 2024 8 hours ago, User said: That goes the opposite direction of this law, and you now expressly want to infringe on the students' religious freedom. Reading the Bible during class in a public school is not religious freedom. They're free to read it during lunch or in the hall between classes. No religion in Public Schools. Period. 1 Quote
User Posted July 1, 2024 Report Posted July 1, 2024 23 minutes ago, herbie said: Reading the Bible during class in a public school is not religious freedom. They're free to read it during lunch or in the hall between classes. No religion in Public Schools. Period. That isn't what the 1st Amendment says, nor what has EVER been part of our legal system or history. If a kid can read any book in class, then they can also read the Bible in class. Unless universal general dress codes apply that do not single out religion, they are free to express themselves with religious messages on their clothing... Jewish kids get to wear their hats, same with Muslims and Christans can wear crosses. All of them can talk about their faith. What you demand is contrary to freedom and the freedom protected by our Constitution. Quote
herbie Posted July 1, 2024 Report Posted July 1, 2024 7 minutes ago, User said: What you demand is contrary to freedom What YOU demand is. Are quotes from the Quran and Torah required to posted on the classroom wall too? You have a shit hemorrage if someone did. As per usual Mr MAGAs freedumbs are to deny other people's. Ryan Walters is walking lion food. Quote
User Posted July 1, 2024 Report Posted July 1, 2024 2 minutes ago, herbie said: What YOU demand is. Are quotes from the Quran and Torah required to posted on the classroom wall too? You have a shit hemorrage if someone did. As per usual Mr MAGAs freedumbs are to deny other people's. Ryan Walters is walking lion food. I am not demanding anything. I am stating the obvious. Are you even an American? Kids can have and read the Bibles in public schools. I am responding to your absurd claim they can't. Instead of responding to that, you respond with quotes from the Quran and Torah required to be posted on the classroom wall... Let me know when you can come up with something more than DURRRRRRRRR mAgA DURRRRRRRRR Quote
CdnFox Posted July 2, 2024 Report Posted July 2, 2024 1 hour ago, herbie said: What YOU demand is. Are quotes from the Quran and Torah required to posted on the classroom wall too? You have a shit hemorrage if someone did. As per usual Mr MAGAs freedumbs are to deny other people's. Ryan Walters is walking lion food. Gay pride flag definitely counts. So there you go. 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
impartialobserver Posted July 2, 2024 Report Posted July 2, 2024 This will not succeed. Having the 10 commandments up on a wall but not having to read it.. meh. This is a whole other ball of wax. Quote
robosmith Posted July 2, 2024 Report Posted July 2, 2024 (edited) On 6/30/2024 at 7:50 PM, BeaverFever said: Oklahoma schools head Ryan Walters: Teachers who won't teach Bible could lose license Oklahoma educators who refuse to teach students about the Bible could lose their teaching license, Superintendent of Public Instruction Ryan Walters said in an interview with NBC News on Friday. Walters issued a memo Thursday instructing all Oklahoma schools to teach students in grades five through 12 about the Bible’s influence on the nation’s founding and historical American figures. Schools will also be required to stock a Bible in every classroom. In an interview with NBC News, Walters said if a teacher refuses to follow the Bible instruction mandate, they’d face the same consequences as one who refuses to teach about the Civil War. The punishment could include revocation of their teaching license, he said, a process that requires a vote by the Oklahoma State Board of Education, which Walters chairs. “Any teacher that would knowingly, willfully disobey the law and disobey our standards — there are repercussions for that,” Walters said. “So we deal with that on a case-by-case basis, but yes, teachers have to teach Oklahoma Academic Standards and this is absolutely going to be part of them.” Walters’ new rule on incorporating Bible instruction was immediately criticized by civil liberties and religious groups. The Jewish Federation of Tulsa and the Oklahoma chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations both said in statements that Walters is inappropriately promoting Christianity in schools. … A spokesperson from the Oklahoma attorney general’s office said in an email that existing law already allowed teachers to use Bibles in the classroom during instruction and that, “There is no legal authority for a memo from the Superintendent to require content.” Walters said he feels confident that his order will survive legal challenges because of the justices then-President Donald Trump appointed to the Supreme Court. “He’s helped provide a path for us to be able to do this as states,” Walters said of Trump. He added that if Trump wins a second term in November, “it will help us move the ball forward, even more so than this.” https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna159548 The f-cking Christian Taliban dictatorship is on the march. Handmaid’s Tale is real. Remember these are the same red states who in recent decades tried to stop or discredit the teaching of evolution The teachers should organize civil disobedience and as many as possible refuse to teach the contents of the bible. History of religions is always acceptable, but picking out only one for special attention is unConstitutional. If 60% of the teachers refuse the mandate, they can't fire them all, and they all have to agree to resign if only a few are singled out to make an example. If they band together, they have the POWER. Edited July 2, 2024 by robosmith Quote
BeaverFever Posted July 2, 2024 Author Report Posted July 2, 2024 1 hour ago, robosmith said: The teachers should organize civil disobedience and as many as possible refuse to teach the contents of the bible. History of religions is always acceptable, but picking out only one for special attention is unConstitutional. If 60% of the teachers refuse the mandate, they can't fire them all, and they all have to agree to resign if only a few are singled out to make an example. If they band together, they have the POWER. The protest action for teachers I guess, in order to comply with the law is teach how the bible was used to justify slavery, genocide of indigenous peoples, oppression of women and segregation and influence the leaders of those movements. The protest action to the Ten Commandments edict is to post them alongside scripture from the koran, the torah and other religions. 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted July 2, 2024 Author Report Posted July 2, 2024 On 7/1/2024 at 4:10 AM, CdnFox said: And? Teach the curriculum. Teachers don't get to decide that. If there was a teacher who refused to teach about evolution out of their own beliefs we'd fire them . Teachers who don't want to teach the curriculum need to be fired. Nice attempted deflection. This isn’t about teacher’s rights to decide the curriculum. And particularly hilarious response coming from the party of perpetually outraged by sex education. This about the religious indoctrination being forced upon the public taxpaying citizens upon threat of government sanction, in a country where there is meant to be a separation of church and state, freedom of religion, an mo one religion meant to be placed above another. It also yet another of the endless examples of heavy-handed micromanagement of granular local affairs by lawmakers in the far off state capital from the party which claims it abhors given and favours local decision-making Quote
Deluge Posted July 2, 2024 Report Posted July 2, 2024 1 hour ago, robosmith said: The teachers should organize civil disobedience and as many as possible refuse to teach the contents of the bible. History of religions is always acceptable, but picking out only one for special attention is unConstitutional. If 60% of the teachers refuse the mandate, they can't fire them all, and they all have to agree to resign if only a few are singled out to make an example. If they band together, they have the POWER. Sorry, dumbass, this is about the Bible, not the Church of England or any other church. Christianity in schools is cool. Quote
BeaverFever Posted July 2, 2024 Author Report Posted July 2, 2024 On 7/1/2024 at 10:01 AM, Nationalist said: You're upset...I can tell. Unfortunately...you and your Libbie rags are lying...yet agin. The Bible did have an impact on how the USA was formed and that does need to be taught and understood. But as always...you insane Libbies don't care about truth. You only care about your preferred flavor of social re-engineering. The "new normal". Well Libbies...fck your "new normal". You may have your own opinion...but you cannot have your own truth. LMAO What is the lie you’re accusing me of in your hate-filled rant exactly? 1 minute ago, Deluge said: Christianity in schools is cool. 😂😂😂😂😂 Do you say that before you call everyone a slut and a whore and jerk off to your rape fantasy porn? 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted July 2, 2024 Report Posted July 2, 2024 (edited) 29 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: LMAO What is the lie you’re accusing me of in your hate-filled rant exactly? 😂😂😂😂😂 Christian taliban dictatorship. You're a lyin' simpleton that has no credibility. Edited July 2, 2024 by Nationalist 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Deluge Posted July 2, 2024 Report Posted July 2, 2024 24 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Do you say that before you call everyone a slut and a whore and jerk off to your rape fantasy porn? I tell you sluts like it is at ALL times. That way there is no question in anyone's mind that you paint your hair green and scream at successful people all day. When's your next riot, f*ckface? Quote
robosmith Posted July 2, 2024 Report Posted July 2, 2024 1 hour ago, Deluge said: Sorry, dumbass, this is about the Bible, not the Church of England or any other church. Christianity in schools is cool. Sorry, dumbass, the bible embodies the substance of the church. Christianity may be cool, but NOT when it is forced on ANYONE by the government. Duh 45 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Christian taliban dictatorship. You're a lyin' simpleton that has no credibility. ^PROJECTION Quote
Deluge Posted July 2, 2024 Report Posted July 2, 2024 14 minutes ago, robosmith said: Sorry, dumbass, the bible embodies the substance of the church. Christianity may be cool, but NOT when it is forced on ANYONE by the government. Duh Wrong, dumbass. The Bible embodies the word of God. If it's placed in schools then that's a good thing. Get over your satanic hate. Quote
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