User Posted July 10 Report Posted July 10 25 minutes ago, Black Dog said: I'm not running away, I'm mocking you for being too dumb to grasp why Black History Month, an occasion invented by an African American for the express purpose of highlighting the achievements of African Americans, might be about African Americans. Apparently you are the one who is having issues, as that isn't what I had troubles with grasping. Keep on running away. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Black Dog Posted July 10 Report Posted July 10 46 minutes ago, User said: Apparently you are the one who is having issues, as that isn't what I had troubles with grasping. Keep on running away. uh huh: On 7/8/2024 at 7:01 PM, User said: OMG. Lets hear this brilliant distinction explained. What makes someone an "African-American" vs "Black" and how does "Black" History month mainly refer to "African-Americans?" You can't make this garbage up it is so dumb. Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
CdnFox Posted July 10 Report Posted July 10 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: Lol first paragraph: Ummm - from the section you quoted..... Social ownership may refer to forms of public, collective or cooperative ownership, or to citizen ownership of equity[11] in which surplus value goes to the working class and hence society as a whole.[12] There are many varieties of socialism and no single definition encapsulates all of them, LOL - I guess if you'd have read TWO sentences you'd have been twice as smart As it continues to say later, there is market socialism where there's private ownership of the means of production but it's regulated by the state to move it in specific directions and for 'social' rather than individual purposes. Which is exactly what the south was about. They wanted a class system and believed in certain social values and norms and wanted to leverage the exceptional financial power of their agriculture to preserve that. Which required slavery. Holy shit kid - if you're going to quote stuff don't quote stuff that proves me RIGHT As to the rest, your entire rebuttal to the facts presented is "ummmm.... nuh uhhh". Brilliant. Kid, there are many socialist models that absolutely include a market and private ownership. Simple fact. Sorry you got tired and fell asleep after the first line. The dems in the past were very socialistic and were very much on the left, believing in the 'greater good' of their society and the use of violence to whip others into accepting their vision of a 'utopian society'. The republicans in the past were VERY much right wingers, believing primarily in personal freedoms and rights. The only way the two were different from what we'd expect now is the republicans were federalists while the democrats in teh south were strong believers in state rights over the feds. ANd your quote proved it nicely If you thought socialism was just the state owning the factories and fields you were grossly uneducated. It's about control. And the dems were all about control Still are. Quote
User Posted July 10 Report Posted July 10 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: uh huh: Uh huh what? You were the one who made the stupid distinction that there was something different between African American and Black, but can't explain what that is and then said "Black" history month was mainly for "African Americans." The stupidity here is still all yours and you still can't explain what makes someone an African American vs Black in that you made this distinction. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
impartialobserver Posted July 10 Report Posted July 10 On 7/8/2024 at 1:30 PM, Michael Hardner said: Unless you live there. That's the part that makes me a little sad. live in Toronto or live in Reno? Quote
Black Dog Posted July 10 Report Posted July 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: Ummm - from the section you quoted..... Social ownership may refer to forms of public, collective or cooperative ownership, or to citizen ownership of equity[11] in which surplus value goes to the working class and hence society as a whole.[12] There are many varieties of socialism and no single definition encapsulates all of them, LOL - I guess if you'd have read TWO sentences you'd have been twice as smart You've just owned yourself and you're too dumb to understand why, incredible. Let's see if you can figure it out (here's a hint: "surplus value"). As you said: if you're going to quote stuff don't quote stuff that proves me RIGHT. Quote As it continues to say later, there is market socialism where there's private ownership of the means of production but it's regulated by the state to move it in specific directions and for 'social' rather than individual purposes. Which is exactly what the south was about. What "social purposes" were being served by the accrual of wealth in the hands of a small number of plantation and landowners? You clearly don't know a single goddamn thing about the social and economic makeup of the antebellum south, which had massive income inequality between the rich slaveholders and the rest of the population. Quote As to the rest, your entire rebuttal to the facts presented is "ummmm.... nuh uhhh". Brilliant. Its so funny how you constantly present your unsourced opinions as "facts". It's actually possible you don't know what these words mean. Quote Kid, there are many socialist models that absolutely include a market and private ownership. Simple fact. Sorry you got tired and fell asleep after the first line. You're missing a couple of key steps here: who owns what and where the money flows. Will you figure it out? I shan't hold my breath. 25 minutes ago, User said: Uh huh what? You were the one who made the stupid distinction that there was something different between African American and Black, but can't explain what that is and then said "Black" history month was mainly for "African Americans." The stupidity here is still all yours and you still can't explain what makes someone an African American vs Black in that you made this distinction. I can't believe you're too dumb to understand a concept like "All African Americans are black but not all blacks are African Americans". You and CdnFux would be lucky to scrape up a braincell between the two of you, my god. Edited July 10 by Black Dog Quote "Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." - Francis M. Wilhoit
Michael Hardner Posted July 10 Report Posted July 10 2 hours ago, impartialobserver said: live in Toronto or live in Reno? Either one. My point is if you don't like the clear change in morality standards that come with this event, you are just out of luck. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
impartialobserver Posted July 10 Report Posted July 10 17 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Either one. My point is if you don't like the clear change in morality standards that come with this event, you are just out of luck. true. On the bright side for them.. most cities/towns do not have gay pride parades. To avoid this.. you have to move away from the bigger cities but it seems like if this bothers you so much.. it would be an easy move. Quote
User Posted July 10 Report Posted July 10 2 hours ago, Black Dog said: I can't believe you're too dumb to understand a concept like "All African Americans are black but not all blacks are African Americans". You and CdnFux would be lucky to scrape up a braincell between the two of you, my god. What is the difference? What makes someone African American and what makes someone Black? YOU made this distinction, now you can't figure out how to explain it. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Michael Hardner Posted July 10 Report Posted July 10 1 hour ago, impartialobserver said: true. On the bright side for them.. most cities/towns do not have gay pride parades. To avoid this.. you have to move away from the bigger cities but it seems like if this bothers you so much.. it would be an easy move. Not really fair, but whatever.. Air shows are just as bad in a different way... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Moonlight Graham Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 On 7/8/2024 at 3:09 PM, CdnFox said: Not really - all black people are black. That's a racial group. Are you saying that chinese and japanese are the same thing? And contributed the same things to the us? And they're both the same as the Hawaiians? (!!!!!!) LOL - wow you really are racist aren't you BD once claimed that "British" is not an ethnicity lol. 1 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Moonlight Graham Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 (edited) Mem exposing themselves in front of the public including women and children is now legal of you're gay? Sounds pretty discriminatory. Political correctness shows its stupidity once again. Edited July 11 by Moonlight Graham Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Michael Hardner Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 9 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Mem exposing themselves in front of the public including women and children is now legal of you're gay? Sounds pretty discriminatory. Political correctness shows its stupidity once again. No, this isn't so. I dispelled it twice before above. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Moonlight Graham Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: No, this isn't so. I dispelled it twice before above. I couldn't find what you said if it was a link. They made no arrests/fines apparently. Once again PC PR wins the day over doing what's right. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Michael Hardner Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 2 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: I couldn't find what you said if it was a link. They made no arrests/fines apparently. Once again PC PR wins the day over doing what's right. For the third time - there are nude events in the city that are not gay and arrests are not made. I was invited to one, but I shower in a bathing suit so not my thing. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Moonlight Graham Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said: For the third time - there are nude events in the city that are not gay and arrests are not made. I was invited to one, but I shower in a bathing suit so not my thing. Public events in front of children? Then Toronto is just dumb. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Michael Hardner Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 4 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Public events in front of children? Then Toronto is just dumb. In the streets. The "in front of children" part is just an artifact of allowing public nudity. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 11 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Then Toronto is just dumb. You have to accept that public spaces won't be governed as you wish. We have to put up with a lot of things we hate in this city... which is maybe why we are so engaged with our governments, more so than other communities ? Just a guess. Imagine living in a place regularly listed as having the worst traffic, and yet your streets and highways are regularly shut down for marathons, festivals, parades for various subcultures and splinter groups of people. You also have to contend with regular impromptu protests, celebrations and religious festivals. Overhead, planes roar past on Labour Day Weekend and if you don't like that sound there's the Molson Indy too. What to do ? Simple: move. And that is why I'm sad... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 Also @Moonlight Graham there was a great book about how the owners of the original autorace event convinced the residents of Parkdale to shut it down and move it out of town... then got them to accept hosting it again.... a master of public manipulation in a bygone time... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Moonlight Graham Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 44 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: In the streets. The "in front of children" part is just an artifact of allowing public nudity. Full frontal nudity in public is illegal for good reason. 15 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: You have to accept that public spaces won't be governed as you wish. We have to put up with a lot of things we hate in this city... which is maybe why we are so engaged with our governments, more so than other communities ? Just a guess. Imagine living in a place regularly listed as having the worst traffic, and yet your streets and highways are regularly shut down for marathons, festivals, parades for various subcultures and splinter groups of people. You also have to contend with regular impromptu protests, celebrations and religious festivals. Overhead, planes roar past on Labour Day Weekend and if you don't like that sound there's the Molson Indy too. What to do ? Simple: move. And that is why I'm sad... Nudity is illegal. The law isn't enforced, so why have the law? Toronto police are either incompetent or understaffed based on the crime that happens in that city without being investigated, like most car theft. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Michael Hardner Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 1 minute ago, Moonlight Graham said: Full frontal nudity in public is illegal for good reason. It's more of a matter of public morality and not "reason". You wade into murky waters when you declare reason to be behind things that are, at the core, matters of personal taste. Nudist colonies exist, nudism exists in many western cultures, and clothing is optional in non-western cultures. Clothing and food are quite culturally based precepts, not based on region. Some cultures make an "ew" face if someone mentions eating dog, others do it if someone mentions eating cow. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
CdnFox Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: It's more of a matter of public morality and not "reason". You wade into murky waters when you declare reason to be behind things that are, at the core, matters of personal taste. Nudist colonies exist, nudism exists in many western cultures, and clothing is optional in non-western cultures. Clothing and food are quite culturally based precepts, not based on region. Some cultures make an "ew" face if someone mentions eating dog, others do it if someone mentions eating cow. This isn't just nudity tho. This is sexualized nudity. Pretending it's the same thing wouldn't be honest. 1 Quote
impartialobserver Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 We have a nude beach at lake tahoe. Lots of signage so one can't say that you came to it by accident. Besides only two ways.. one in which is very treacherous. Been here for 14 years and never heard a single complaint. The nude beach is regarded much like an adult shop. 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 37 minutes ago, impartialobserver said: We have a nude beach at lake tahoe. Lots of signage so one can't say that you came to it by accident. Besides only two ways.. one in which is very treacherous. Been here for 14 years and never heard a single complaint. The nude beach is regarded much like an adult shop. Toronto too. And it's idyllic. Unbelievably wonderful. But nude events also happen on city streets. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
blackbird Posted July 11 Report Posted July 11 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: It's more of a matter of public morality and not "reason". No. Public nudity is contrary go God's ordained way that man should be. It is rebellion against God and his word. Quote
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