My Lament

[West]

I have always been a fan of America. Many summer vacations have been spent traveling through the US visiting good friends in many places across the US. 

What we are witnessing is a total collapse of what was once a dominant world super power. Between insane national debt and the radicalized politics where political adversaries are targeted like they would in the Soviet Union, one cannot help but shed a tear for that country. 

All the blood shed just for a guy who cannot string together a full sentence to come around and ruin it

[robosmith]

1 minute ago, West said:

I have always been a fan of America. Many summer vacations have been spent traveling through the US visiting good friends in many places across the US. 

What we are witnessing is a total collapse of what was once a dominant world super power. Between insane national debt and the radicalized politics where political adversaries are targeted like they would in the Soviet Union, one cannot help but shed a tear for that country. 

All the blood shed just for a guy who cannot string together a full sentence to come around and ruin it

You are INSANE if you believe the US is in "total collapse."

Unlike Trump, Biden passed an infrastructure bill which is so great, RepubliCONS who voted against it are real busy taking credit for it.

The ONLY political adversary who is being targeted is BECAUSE he has NO RESPECT for the law.

Grand Juries INDICTED him and a real jury CONVICTED HIM.

YOU MAGA CULT are TRYING to destroy the justice system, but it's doing ITS JOB.

[West]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You are INSANE if you believe the US is in "total collapse."

Unlike Trump, Biden passed an infrastructure bill which is so great, RepubliCONS who voted against it are real busy taking credit for it.

The ONLY political adversary who is being targeted is BECAUSE he has NO RESPECT for the law.

Grand Juries INDICTED him and a real jury CONVICTED HIM.

YOU MAGA CULT are TRYING to destroy the justice system, but it's doing ITS JOB.

If you listened to Trump about Joe's utter failures with his afghan withdrawal, his funding of terror organizations, you'd know whats coming

[robosmith]

Just now, West said:

If you listened to Trump about Joe's utter failures with his afghan withdrawal, his funding of terror organizations, you'd know whats coming

Trump LIED about BOTH. There wasn't thing tonight that Trump didn't LIE ABOUT.

If you knew how to check facts, you'd be embarrassed by your mistakes here.

Given that Trump negotiated the surrender WITHOUT involving the ANG, the Afghan withdrawal went great, cause no one anticipated the ANA (which Trump IGNORED) would just surrender as soon as we pulled the plug.

13 soldier deaths are tragic, but WE didn't do that, THAT WAS ISIS.

[West]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Trump LIED about BOTH. There wasn't thing tonight that Trump didn't LIE ABOUT.

If you knew how to check facts, you'd be embarrassed by your mistakes here.

Given that Trump negotiated the surrender WITHOUT involving the ANG, the Afghan withdrawal went great, cause no one anticipated the ANA (which Trump IGNORED) would just surrender as soon as we pulled the plug.

13 soldier deaths are tragic, but WE didn't do that, THAT WAS ISIS.

The biggest lie was Joe Biden claiming he's a negative 6 handicap at golf

[Nationalist]

5 hours ago, West said:

The biggest lie was Joe Biden claiming he's a negative 6 handicap at golf

I remember that. The wife and I laughed like Hell at it.

Poor Democrats. They just allowed the world to see that the emperor really does have no cloths.

[Michael Hardner]

9 hours ago, robosmith said:

You are INSANE if you believe the US is in "total collapse."

 

And I assure you within weeks of Trump's victory, he will be proclaiming that America is better than ever. The truth is somewhere in between.

[myata]

10 hours ago, West said:

All the blood shed just for a guy who cannot string together

A patented crook is somehow a better choice? It seems to have lost the capacity to produce good ones and that is a big, deep problem. Nothing easy to fix, from this line on. No hope for a simple push of one finger.

[West]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

And I assure you within weeks of Trump's victory, he will be proclaiming that America is better than ever. The truth is somewhere in between.

The United States spends more to service their debt than on pretty well all their programs. If that's not a sign of a country in decline on the brink of collapse i don't know what is. 

It looks eerily similar to Greece a few years ago

[West]

6 minutes ago, myata said:

A patented crook is somehow a better choice? It seems to have lost the capacity to produce good ones and that is a big, deep problem. Nothing easy to fix, from this line on. No hope for a simple push of one finger.

Last night's debate was an embarrassment to America. 

Look I feel for Joe Biden. Most of us have had family members who decline cognitively in their later years. At that point you unplug the stove so they don't burn the house down, not give them access to nuclear codes. 

[Michael Hardner]

9 minutes ago, West said:

The United States spends more to service their debt than on pretty well all their programs. If that's not a sign of a country in decline on the brink of collapse i don't know what is. 

It looks eerily similar to Greece a few years ago

Well, ok but you had a president who fueled a massive deficit in good times, to the point where the prudent fiscal conservative running that side of the party - Paul Ryan - resigned in disgust.  The Tea Party was silenced.

That's one of the big problems the US will face with Trump back in charge, with Congress and the Senate in his control.

[myata]

7 minutes ago, West said:

Look I feel for Joe Biden. Most of us have had family members who decline cognitively in their later years. At that point you unplug the stove so they don't burn the house down, not give them access to nuclear codes

Cognitive decline or absence of honesty, integrity and decency? What is the better one? Is there, the better?

[West]

18 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Well, ok but you had a president who fueled a massive deficit in good times, to the point where the prudent fiscal conservative running that side of the party - Paul Ryan - resigned in disgust.  The Tea Party was silenced.

That's one of the big problems the US will face with Trump back in charge, with Congress and the Senate in his control.

The Democrat states forced alot of people out of jobs during the pandemic then Joe claims that he created jobs once their bogus restrictions were lifted. The man's as dishonest about that as he is his golf handicap 

[impartialobserver]

:"bloodshed"... a bit hyperbolic, eh. Not sure where this bloody, armed revolution that you allude to was. 

[robosmith]

11 hours ago, West said:

The biggest lie was Joe Biden claiming he's a negative 6 handicap at golf

You mean the biggest lie Biden told. Of course he corrected that.

Meanwhile Trump is FAMOUS for lying about HIS golf scores.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, West said:

The United States spends more to service their debt than on pretty well all their programs. If that's not a sign of a country in decline on the brink of collapse i don't know what is. 

It looks eerily similar to Greece a few years ago

The rest of the world is WORSE.

As long as they keep buying our bonds because WE'RE the safest place to stash their money, we'll be fine.

Unless you MAGA RUBES elect Trump and he replaces the income tax with tariffs. That will send a shock to the WHOLE WORLD.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, West said:

Last night's debate was an embarrassment to America. 

Look I feel for Joe Biden. Most of us have had family members who decline cognitively in their later years. At that point you unplug the stove so they don't burn the house down, not give them access to nuclear codes. 

Of course you didn't see him celebrating at the watch party afterwards. Don't tell anyone, but he was SoU Joe there.

It's probably a fake out so he looks even better at the next debate when he comes roaring back.

[robosmith]

On 6/27/2024 at 9:25 PM, West said:

The biggest lie was Joe Biden claiming he's a negative 6 handicap at golf

He said 6, NOT negative 6, doofus. Then he backtracked to 8, when he was VP, NOT NOW.

You know you have no credibility when YOU LIE about what he said.

[West]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

He said 6, NOT negative 6, doofus. Then he backtracked to 8, when he was VP, NOT NOW.

You know you have no credibility when YOU LIE about what he said.

Still a lie.

[CdnFox]

On 6/27/2024 at 7:57 PM, West said:

I have always been a fan of America. Many summer vacations have been spent traveling through the US visiting good friends in many places across the US. 

What we are witnessing is a total collapse of what was once a dominant world super power. Between insane national debt and the radicalized politics where political adversaries are targeted like they would in the Soviet Union, one cannot help but shed a tear for that country. 

All the blood shed just for a guy who cannot string together a full sentence to come around and ruin it

It's an unfortunate fact, but all great empires go through this.  None last forever. They are all diminished over time. 

Rome. The great Mongol empires that covered most of the globe. Spain. Britian. China.  Plenty of others. 

All massive superpower empires in their day. All eventually fell to ruin and decay.  The US has been around as a nation for 250 plus years, and actually that's around about when you usually see the decay become noticeable and largely irreversible. I think just going from memory rome or it's successor the byzantine were probably the longest, and rome only made it about 500 years in it's final form and that was pretty damn impressive.  And the last century and change was really not very good. 

The US is in the decline.  It's sad to see but such things happen. 

 

[WestCanMan]

On 6/27/2024 at 7:57 PM, West said:

I have always been a fan of America. Many summer vacations have been spent traveling through the US visiting good friends in many places across the US. 

What we are witnessing is a total collapse of what was once a dominant world super power. Between insane national debt and the radicalized politics where political adversaries are targeted like they would in the Soviet Union, one cannot help but shed a tear for that country. 

TBH I thought that 2014-2017 was worse. 

I felt like it wasn't safe to go down there, because God forbid some black guy gets shot for assaulting a cop, and BLM or Keith Ellison edits the footage while we're down there. 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, West said:

Still a lie.

What you said is the LIE. What Joe said may or may not be true, since you're not monitoring his golf scores.

Meanwhile BOOKS have been written about Trump LYING about his scores. 

Commander in Cheat: How Golf Explains Trump

Amazon.com

https://www.amazon.com › Commander-Cheat-Golf-Ex...

 

Anyone who cheats on his golf score is lying to himself...." Read more ... This book reveals that Donald Trump only respects himself and he lies and cheats at ...

 

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[CdnFox]

17 minutes ago, robosmith said:

What you said is the LIE. What Joe said may or may not be true, since you're not monitoring his golf scores.

Meanwhile BOOKS have been written about Trump LYING about his scores. 

Commander in Cheat: How Golf Explains Trump

Amazon.com

https://www.amazon.com › Commander-Cheat-Golf-Ex...

 

Anyone who cheats on his golf score is lying to himself...." Read more ... This book reveals that Donald Trump only respects himself and he lies and cheats at ...

 

 Rating: 4.6 · ‎4,725 reviews · ‎$9.18 · ‎30-day returns

Oooops ....  I think you broke him again @West   Apparently everything would be clear if you had just monitored Biden's golf scores!

you had ONE job man. ONE job. 

[West]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

TBH I thought that 2014-2017 was worse. 

I felt like it wasn't safe to go down there, because God forbid some black guy gets shot for assaulting a cop, and BLM or Keith Ellison edits the footage while we're down there. 

Now it's lawfare against religious organizations. 

All in accordance with the Davos crews perception that individualism and religion get in their way of the best society they can create

[WestCanMan]

25 minutes ago, West said:

Now it's lawfare against religious organizations. 

All in accordance with the Davos crews perception that individualism and religion get in their way of the best society they can create

I have a feeling that their ideal civilization is islamic, because muslims are happy to live in abject poverty as longas they can pray and inflict their religion on women and children, plus they're much easier to control: the words of their mullahs instantly become 'their hill to die on'. Ordering Christians around is like herding cats, by comparison. I would have died before I let those a55holes stick the covid jab in my son's arm.