A dangerous offender on parole allegedly murdered a woman in a home invasion in Surrey BC

[blackbird]

Once again the criminal justice system failed the citizens.

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“Despite providing the most explicit and strict directives to Crown Counsel around seeking detention in circumstances like this, we are still seeing the release of people back into the community, and they’re causing harm,” B.C. Premier David Eby said on Tuesday.

“They’re hurting people. We will continue to work with the federal government to ensure that the federal criminal code is responsive to what we’re seeing in communities.”

Exclusive new details released in Surrey homicide, which family says was random - BC | Globalnews.ca

I thought this was resolved between Premiers and the federal government last year after all the talk that something was going to be done about it.  Apparently not.

When is the federal government going to amend the laws and stop releasing dangerous offenders who harm and kill the innocent citizens who are just trying to live their lives?

Also, if we had capital punishment, we might have far fewer murders because criminals would know what price they could pay for their crimes.

Edited June 19, 2024 by blackbird

[Moonlight Graham]

"Global News has learned the suspect was recently released from custody after an earlier arrest and had a lengthy and violent criminal history."

Canada should change its name to "Milquetoast".  BC can change its name to "British Milquetoast"

[herbie]

1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Global News has learned the suspect was recently released from custody after an earlier arrest and had a lengthy and violent criminal history."

has learned A suspect

Save your ranting for when someone is actually charged

[blackbird]

6 minutes ago, herbie said:

has learned A suspect

Save your ranting for when someone is actually charged

Really?   The guy had a lengthy criminal record and a violent history but was still let out on parole.  Wake up!  People like you are the problem.

[Legato]

10 minutes ago, herbie said:

has learned A suspect

Save your ranting for when someone is actually charged

You sir seem to be suffering from the "Huggery of Thuggeries" syndrome.

[herbie]

On the contrary. People like YOU who can only think punish, punish, and punish some more are the problem.
The guy did his time and earned parole and you act like you know better without knowing any of the facts whatsoever. To the point that the guy was near there and had a record, so he must be the perpetrator.

You're smarter than a parole board? Smarter than the cops who released him? And no need for a Court, you already convicted him with no evidence needed.
But you're not a fascist in the least, right?

[CDN1]

14 minutes ago, herbie said:

On the contrary. People like YOU who can only think punish, punish, and punish some more are the problem.
The guy did his time and earned parole and you act like you know better without knowing any of the facts whatsoever. To the point that the guy was near there and had a record, so he must be the perpetrator.

You're smarter than a parole board? Smarter than the cops who released him? And no need for a Court, you already convicted him with no evidence needed.
But you're not a fascist in the least, right?

 

 

Lol. He stabbed another woman earlier this year you f'n criminal simp. Endless time and sympathy for violent offenders (especially the non-White ones) with these left wads.

Denialism won't wash the blood off your hands.

Edited June 19, 2024 by CDN1

[herbie]

2 minutes ago, CDN1 said:

especially the non-White ones

Well that just shot all your credibility in an argument all to shit didn't it?

And thank you for knowing what no media have reported officially

[CDN1]

12 minutes ago, herbie said:

Well that just shot all your credibility in an argument all to shit didn't it?

And thank you for knowing what no media have reported officially

No, you're just uncomfortable with the reality that Black and Indigenous people are commiting violent crimes at grotesque disproportional rates compared to other racial groups including White Canadians.

Murder rate is over 6x higher. Nearly 10x for gun crimes. 

 

 

Edited June 19, 2024 by CDN1

[Moonlight Graham]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

has learned A suspect

Save your ranting for when someone is actually charged

Aristotle said that every virtue, when taken to an extreme, becomes a vice.  Even tolerance.

A lot of Canadians, especially in or near the Vancouver area of BC, would be well to learn that.

[CITIZEN_2015]

There should be no parole. In fact a return of Capital punishment for violent crimes for repeat offenders (including rape) will solve this problem to a good extend.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

On the contrary. People like YOU who can only think punish, punish, and punish some more are the problem.
The guy did his time and earned parole and you act like you know better without knowing any of the facts whatsoever. To the point that the guy was near there and had a record, so he must be the perpetrator.

You're smarter than a parole board? Smarter than the cops who released him? And no need for a Court, you already convicted him with no evidence needed.
But you're not a fascist in the least, right?

Stfu.  This guy was arrested, released and went out and hurt more people and all you can do is defend him. What a  piece of crap you are. 

Lets hope one of your family is hurt by a violent offender released on parole so you can learn to have sympathy for the victim and not the criminal.  Damn you've said some sick shit but this really takes the cake. You side with hamas terrorists and violent criminals - too bad we can't arrest your parents for raising you like this. 

[CdnFox]

11 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

There should be no parole. In fact a return of Capital punishment for violent crimes for repeat offenders (including rape) will solve this problem to a good extend.

Prior to 2017 there was no parole for repeat violent offenders.  Sure, if someone was charged with a minor crime for the first time there was parole.  But for violent offenses and repeats it was different. 

Trudeau changed that law in 2017 and now we are CONSTANTLY hearing about violent offenders who are caught, released that afternoon, and who reoffend in very short order. 

We need to change the law back to allow repeat violent offenders to be locked up permanently awaiting trial for the safety of the public. 

The challenge is there's too many a-holes like @herbie who would rather see young women get re-raped, police get killed, and women murdered than dare offend the poor violent criminal. 

[Legato]

5 hours ago, herbie said:

On the contrary. People like YOU who can only think punish, punish, and punish some more are the problem.
The guy did his time and earned parole and you act like you know better without knowing any of the facts whatsoever. To the point that the guy was near there and had a record, so he must be the perpetrator.

You're smarter than a parole board? Smarter than the cops who released him? And no need for a Court, you already convicted him with no evidence needed.
But you're not a fascist in the least, right?

I rest my case.

[CITIZEN_2015]

10 hours ago, CdnFox said:

 

Trudeau changed that law in 2017 and now we are CONSTANTLY hearing about violent offenders who are caught, released that afternoon, and who reoffend in very short order. 

We need to change the law back to allow repeat violent offenders to be locked up permanently awaiting trial for the safety of the public. 

 

If true this is not acceptable and yes we must change it back. Trudeau will be gone in 18 months at the latest. Lets see if the next government will do the right things and gets tough on crimes, immigration and terrorism. Though I remember it was Mulroney a conservative PM who voted down the return of Capital punishment.

[WestCanMan]

The culpability of our justice system (not law enforcement) hinges on the details of this charge imo:

• The suspect was sentenced to 31 days in jail and 24 months probation on March 28 for obstructing a peace officer and possessing a weapon for a dangerous purpose in Vancouver on Jan. 15.

What's a dangerous purpose? What kind of weapon?

If he was lurking in the bushes of a public park at dusk, stalking women, with a handgun, a knife and some duct tape he should have been held indefinitely. 

If he was walking downtown with a sword it's a lot less clear that he was up to something that the public should be worried about. Was he going to rob a liquor store or was he selling it, or bringing it to a friend's house? 

I don't think we're going to find out. 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

If true this is not acceptable and yes we must change it back. Trudeau will be gone in 18 months at the latest. Lets see if the next government will do the right things and gets tough on crimes, immigration and terrorism. Though I remember it was Mulroney a conservative PM who voted down the return of Capital punishment.

The premiers have been screaming for the law to be changed, along with the number of police chiefs. Poilievre has said that such changes are on his list so hopefully it'll happen sooner rather than later when he gets in.

Mulroney was correct to vote down capital punishment. Don't get me wrong, I would happily put a bullet in the back of the head of a cereal rapist myself and sleep like a baby that night. But we're talking about giving the state the power of life and death over its citizens. And there have been just too many cases where the police or other actors have faked evidence or excluded evidence that prove someone was innocent.

Look at the mass Trudeau has made a literally everything he's touched. Do you really want to give that kind of person the power of life and death over you? I do favor permanent lifetime imprisonment without parole, but at least with that if it turns out later that some evidence was hidden or new evidence comes to light to prove innocence or whatever you can at least give that person a part of their life back

[CDN1]

On 6/19/2024 at 3:58 PM, herbie said:

On the contrary. People like YOU who can only think punish, punish, and punish some more are the problem.
The guy did his time and earned parole and you act like you know better without knowing any of the facts whatsoever. To the point that the guy was near there and had a record, so he must be the perpetrator.

You're smarter than a parole board? Smarter than the cops who released him? And no need for a Court, you already convicted him with no evidence needed.
But you're not a fascist in the least, right?

I'm not sure who the bigger pos is, you or the rapists and murderers your ilk enables.

https://globalnews.ca/news/10576146/surrey-stabbing-charge-assault/

Adam Mann. Not White. No wonder they're hiding it for so long.

Edited June 20, 2024 by CDN1

[herbie]

The fascists line up to condemn due process. Anyone defending it is a criminal to them.

The suspect was sentenced to 31 days in jail and 24 months probation on March 28 for obstructing a peace officer

That's DONE, and he was picked up on this case and charged with something else (probably a violation of his release terms) and NOT CHARGED with this attack. YET.

Yet you loudmouth dumbfux who know more than the RCMP have concluded he's guilty, thrown race and a return to capital punishment into the mix. You're free to believe shit like that, even if it defines you as bat shit crazy.

 

[CdnFox]

53 minutes ago, herbie said:

The fascists line up to condemn due process. Anyone defending it is a criminal to them.

 

Dude you are a line sack of shit.

Nobody's talking about eliminating due process. Nobody is talking about ending fair trials and so on and so forth.

They are saying that people that have been convicted of being violent criminals in the past and are now plausibly accused of committing yet another violent crime should be held in custody until they get their fair trial.

But again yo only care about the Criminal, you don't give two craps about the poor victims or the lives that are destroyed by your virtue signaling.

This is everything wrong with the left today, the word needs to be spread to show exactly why these people would rather see you dead than rethink their ideology. 

[Aristides]

Crown can seek detention but it is up to the judiciary to implement it. 

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

The fascists line up to condemn due process. Anyone defending it is a criminal to them.

The suspect was sentenced to 31 days in jail and 24 months probation on March 28 for obstructing a peace officer

That's DONE, and he was picked up on this case and charged with something else (probably a violation of his release terms) and NOT CHARGED with this attack. YET.

Yet you loudmouth dumbfux who know more than the RCMP have concluded he's guilty, thrown race and a return to capital punishment into the mix. You're free to believe shit like that, even if it defines you as bat shit crazy.

 

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He was then accused of two counts of robbery on April 25 and released from custody on $500 bail the next day.

On Monday, he was charged with aggravated assault in the alleged stabbing of a woman on May 26 in Surrey.

 

 

 

 

[herbie]

Yeah he a revolving door beneficiary and shouldn't have been out after being charged with that May stabbing.
I'm only contesting the presumption of guilt of someone that has yet to be charged. And the continued non-stop racism of some in deciding so.

[Aristides]

Just now, herbie said:

Yeah he a revolving door beneficiary and shouldn't have been out after being charged with that May stabbing.
I'm only contesting the presumption of guilt of someone that has yet to be charged. And the continued non-stop racism of some in deciding so.

The guy has a history, should we keep him in jail if he was white and let him go if he isn't? Seems to me that is racist.

[CdnFox]

42 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Crown can seek detention but it is up to the judiciary to implement it. 

Not anymore.  As of 2017 the new law all but forbids it.  They walk.  

Guys with a mile long history of violent crimes are set free and in many cases are picked up again that same day for  a new violent crime.