Federal government mismanaging and wasting taxpayer money constantly

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

? Lots of Canadians are immigrants.

 

All Canadians are immigrants, or descended from them. There are no indigenous people in Canada. Everybody came from somewhere or are the children of those who did.

Basically if we get rid of the immigrants and their descendants this is an empty country

[cannuck]

On 6/7/2024 at 8:06 PM, Michael Hardner said:

? Lots of Canadians are immigrants.

I guess if Poilievre allows any immigration at all, it will mean he hates Canada?

You did not answer my question, you just countered with a truly partisan retort.

Why do you (or anyone for that matter) think we "need" further immigration>>>??????

[Nefarious Banana]

On 6/7/2024 at 8:10 PM, CdnFox said:

All Canadians are immigrants, or descended from them. There are no indigenous people in Canada. Everybody came from somewhere or are the children of those who did.

Basically if we get rid of the immigrants and their descendants this is an empty country

Indians are the 'First Immigrants' . . . (FI)

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, cannuck said:

 

Why do you (or anyone for that matter) think we "need" further immigration>>>??????

Most would support some immigration to support population growth.  I think that makes sense.

Edit: no I don't hate the Canada.

Edited June 9, 2024 by Michael Hardner

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Indians are the 'First Immigrants' . . . (FI)

The indigenous were not "immigrants".

Indians were not the first to come to this land. It was French and British and then Indians came long after.

So, other than the indigenous, every one else is an immigrant or descendant of an immigrant.

Edited June 9, 2024 by ExFlyer

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

The indigenous were not "immigrants".

there were absolutely immigrants.  They did not come from here. They migrated here. That's what "im-migrant" means. 

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Indians were not the first to come to this land. It was French and British and then Indians came long after.

People from india did but indians were the first here.  The fact that they were named 'indians' by mistake doesn't change that   

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So, other than the indigenous, every one else is an immigrant or descendant of an immigrant.

There are no indigineous.  Sorry. That's why they're the 'First' nation.  The land we know as Canada was first colonized by the people we would later come to know as the "indians" and later more correctly as the  first nations, and then later was colonized by the British and French.

But yeah - 100 percent of all people living in Canada are immigrants or descended from them. 

[Nefarious Banana]

4 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

The indigenous were not "immigrants".

Indians were not the first to come to this land. It was French and British and then Indians came long after.

So, other than the indigenous, every one else is an immigrant or descendant of an immigrant.

We call each other 'Indians' . . . . you don't know much.

[cannuck]

7 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Most would support some immigration to support population growth.  I think that makes sense.

Edit: no I don't hate the Canada.

What fascinates me is why in a world suffering from unsustainable population growth would anyone in their right mind advocate population growth??  Our problems in Canada with housing for instance exist partly because of foolish immigration rates and policies.    You should be able to understand why I ask if you hate Canadians so much you would want to inflict more of the same problems we already know to be problems, not solutions.

[Michael Hardner]

Just now, cannuck said:

What fascinates me is why in a world suffering from unsustainable population growth would anyone in their right mind advocate population growth??  Our problems in Canada with housing for instance exist partly because of foolish immigration rates and policies.    You should be able to understand why I ask if you hate Canadians so much you would want to inflict more of the same problems we already know to be problems, not solutions.

Our world will start to decline in numbers in 2064 according The Economist.  

We may have foolish immigration rates but 0% is unheard of.

Again, do you think anyone who favours SOME immigration hates Canada?  Because that's not a serious comment.

[cannuck]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Our world will start to decline in numbers in 2064 according The Economist.  

We may have foolish immigration rates but 0% is unheard of.

Again, do you think anyone who favours SOME immigration hates Canada?  Because that's not a serious comment.

The only immigration I could support would be from countries with culture compatible with Canada.   That specifically excludes India and probably China at this stage. Generally, any country with culture based on privilege and operating by corruption.  We already have too much of that here now.

[Michael Hardner]

7 minutes ago, cannuck said:

The only immigration I could support would be from countries with culture compatible with Canada.   That specifically excludes India and probably China at this stage. Generally, any country with culture based on privilege and operating by corruption.  We already have too much of that here now.

https://www.immigration.ca/top-10-source-countries-of-new-permanent-residents-of-canada-in-2023/

 

Ok, you are looking at reducing immigration drastically in any case.  10K immigrants from the USA 

[ExFlyer]

12 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

We call each other 'Indians' . . . . you don't know much.

Shame on you... that is incorrect nomenclature. Indigenous is what was demanded by your kind LOL

Y'all did'nt like Indian, so it became natives and ya didn't like that so it was changed to aboriginals and ya didn't like that either so you demanded indigenous and y'all don't use that now either.

Y'all have become a government teat  sucking culture that cannot even decide what you want to be called LOL

[cannuck]

10 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

https://www.immigration.ca/top-10-source-countries-of-new-permanent-residents-of-canada-in-2023/

Ok, you are looking at reducing immigration drastically in any case.  10K immigrants from the USA 

I would only allow Afganistan and US from that list.  ALL are countries with cultures based strictly on corruption, crime and privilege.  No wonder the Little Turd likes them so much - fits right into Ottawa.

[Nefarious Banana]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

Shame on you... that is incorrect nomenclature. Indigenous is what was demanded by your kind LOL

Y'all did'nt like Indian, so it became natives and ya didn't like that so it was changed to aboriginals and ya didn't like that either so you demanded indigenous and y'all don't use that now either.

Y'all have become a government teat  sucking culture that cannot even decide what you want to be called LOL

What a clown you are . . . 

[Michael Hardner]

49 minutes ago, cannuck said:

I would only allow Afganistan 

...

 

Why Afghanistan? 🤔. They're pretty close in political complexion to places you reject.

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Shame on you... that is incorrect nomenclature.

did you just really try to shame a first nations Person for referring to themselves as whatever they want? You must be out of your mind, what in god's name gives you the right to tell somebody how they refer to themselves? In a world where it's not even lawful to misgender someone or not use their correct pronouns you're going to tell the first nations people who have already been pushed around by our government for how long what they are and are not allowed to call themselves?

Oh and by the way.....  did you think this law applied to people from Bangledesh?

Indian Act (justice.gc.ca)

 

[blackbird]

On 6/9/2024 at 11:42 AM, Michael Hardner said:

Most would support some immigration to support population growth.  I think that makes sense.

Don't you think it would also make sense to ban abortion in Canada?  That would mean 80,000 to 100,000 more Canadians born in Canada.  Instead the descendants of the European founding peoples are being replaced by immigrants from third world countries and aboriginals who will take over the country.

Edited June 10, 2024 by blackbird

[Michael Hardner]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

1. Don't you think it would also make sense to ban abortion in Canada? 

2. That would mean 80,000 to 100,000 more Canadians born in Canada.  Instead the descendants of the European founding peoples are being replaced by immigrants from third world countries and aboriginals who will take over the country.

1. Forcing people to give birth goes against their rights, in my book. Just as forcing them to have a baby would. 

2. You'd have to give some details of this program you're considering. For example, only banning them for white people so that your racial quotas would be satisfied I guess. Or maybe having the government pay white welfare moms to pop out 10 or 20 babies.

 

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Forcing people to give birth goes against their rights, in my book. Just as forcing them to have a baby would. 

We've already established that forcing people to do things with their body against their will is okay if it's for the good of society during covid. You shouldn't have any problem with that.

Having said that, there's a significant difference between forcing somebody to do something and forcing somebody to live with the consequences of what they have already done. There's quite a difference

Having said that, considering that most of those children would likely be born into environments where there is minimal or insufficient support to raise them it would probably cause more social problems than it would solve.

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Forcing people to give birth goes against their rights, in my book. Just as forcing them to have a baby would. 

2. You'd have to give some details of this program you're considering. For example, only banning them for white people so that your racial quotas would be satisfied I guess. Or maybe having the government pay white welfare moms to pop out 10 or 20 babies.

 

1.  The unborn are already people "in God's book".

2.  I don't know where you would find statistics on abortions by race in Canada. 

[blackbird]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Don't you think it would also make sense to ban abortion in Canada? 

Deputy PM Chrystia Freeland just said the tax hike is all about funding free birth control for teenage girls among other things.

It's all about making pre-marital sex for teenagers more accessible and easy with no risks.  Sadly liberals have no moral compass.

Edited June 10, 2024 by blackbird

[suds]

19 hours ago, cannuck said:

What fascinates me is why in a world suffering from unsustainable population growth would anyone in their right mind advocate population growth??  Our problems in Canada with housing for instance exist partly because of foolish immigration rates and policies.    You should be able to understand why I ask if you hate Canadians so much you would want to inflict more of the same problems we already know to be problems, not solutions.

Because of the situation we're in, our ponzi scheme way of doing things creates a catch-22 (a problematic situation for which the only solution is denied by a circumstance inherent in the problem). We need a growing population to sustain economic growth to a degree where it can pay for all the pensions, healthcare, and other entitlements for future generations that are only going to live longer. When the economy isn't supportive enough to pay the bills, then everything begins to unravel. The world's  increase of population growth rate is slowing down, but most demographers contend that (actual) world population will peak sometime near the end of this century. And then there's the climate change thing. How will another 2.5 billion people affect our efforts to control climate change when we can't get a handle on it now?

[eyeball]

13 minutes ago, suds said:

When the economy isn't supportive enough to pay the bills, then everything begins to unravel.

We're already decades into the unravelling.

[blackbird]

6 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Forcing people to give birth goes against their rights, in my book.

Once a baby is conceived, it is too late.  The preborn baby is already a human.  There is no right to murder a preborn human in God's economy and according to his written revelation, the Bible.  To kill unborn babies or even support such a thing places one on the wrong side of God.  Why people do this kind of thing is explained in this article.

"Corruption is a state of decay, pollution, or incorrectness. In the Bible, corruption is one of the effects of sin that resulted from the fall of man. In the beginning, God created a perfect paradise, free of sickness, pain, and death. But when Adam and Eve disobeyed God by eating the forbidden fruit, sin entered the world, spoiling its perfection. That sin also brought contamination and decay to Adam and Eve and to the human nature of every person born after that (Romans 5:12). Thus, corruption in the Bible is the state of moral contamination and spiritual decay expressed through disobedience toward God."

For the whole article:

What does the Bible say about corruption? | GotQuestions.org

 

 

[taxme]

On 6/5/2024 at 6:56 AM, Nationalist said:

There is a simple solution.

Drill baby drill. Leave farmers, miners and forestry alone. Stop spending money we don't have. Close the border.

Do that...and watch the Canadian economy take off.

But MH is a pinko. He has no use for those you mentioned above. He thinks that those hard working people, who are giving us the good life, are destroying his precious environment. He thinks that those people are contributing to this so called hoax of a climate crisis. The simple solution is to stop listening to no minds like that fool. Canada is in a bloody mess because of fools like him. Indeed, drill baby drill. Works for me. 😇